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People who can't afford rent have to live somewhere. What's your suggestion?

 
BRIEF

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Women who can’t afford rent shouldn’t have a problem.
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That's why there are fewer homeless women...
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Re: People who can't afford rent have to live somewhere. What's your suggestion?
What you should do is use heat shrink film on windows to keep out drafts and use space heaters.

I suggest you put an electric tea kettle, a microwave, and a dorm sized refrigerator in too.

You should enlarge your pantry and get a freezer and buy food in bulk when it is on sale.Buy extra turkeys,carve them up, and use freezer bags and vaccuum seal them so it doesn't get freezer burnt.

Everyone has to tighten up belts. Buy everything used like clothing at rummage sales.
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10/29/2020 10:53 AM
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It was very common in history for extended family to take one child and help raise them until the familygot back on their feet..It stinks, but if afamily has four kids, It may not work to keep them all together.

Suck it up. Life ain't perfect. Whatever hardship you experienced is NITHING like people went through during the Great Depression. Get over it. You won't starve.

You're a moron if you try to wing it in an urban area. It's too expensive and you are homeless and unemployed.
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10/29/2020 10:55 AM

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You build up people's spirits, you create beauty and abundance, and kids, teens, so many fun workshops to develop lifelong talents, careers, other than gangs.

You create pathways to Joy and Happiness and Developing Talents and Interests in people. Uplift them.


ie trades, plumbing, electrical, alternative home building, furniture, workshops, greenhousing, energy production and inventions, art, writing, music, pottery, textiles, weaving, spinning, dyeing fibres and hand painting fabrics, glass production. You'd have gangs of teens that could volunteer in local towns and communities to repair the elders homes and roofs for next to nothing.

Development of human talents, potentials, practical and creative skills both equally.

And free to affordable transportation and adventures to all the local cities.


I've even thought if you're able to network but low income, or just can't afford to be stuck, find a group of like minded who get together and you'd really need to know them, so you fix up second hand RV's, and do some businesses together and move around like gypsies and lock the money into term deposits where no none can steal it, and get that land.

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complex question and answers..drug/substance abuse is a major part of homeless peoples lives. I would start with treating that.
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Once again that's a choice...the healthy man gets up and has an apple to satisfy a craving, whereas the homeless man goes out to steal something and sell it for heroin...
 Quoting: BRIEF


yeah its a life choice and they chose wrong..obviously, but what to do about it?
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10/29/2020 10:58 AM

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Incarcerate the homeless in FEMA camps?
The right wing is supposed to be appalled at the prospect of FEMA camps.

All these tents and blankets in our cities are ugly, AGREED but what do you suggest for the problem of homelessness?

We're supposed to be the greatest and wealthiest nation ever, right?

How do we fix this? Or should we not try and let the poorest continue to sprawl out and survive as best they can?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79556115


They need to be arrested and assigned a financial counselor to get them on the right track...that will lead to mental health care workers and case workers to help find affordable housing and jobs...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I agree...

They should also open up the Sanitariums and put the mentally challenged there to get mental health and required meds...

When they disbanded the Sanitariums many were left homeless...
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Incarcerate the homeless in FEMA camps?
The right wing is supposed to be appalled at the prospect of FEMA camps.

All these tents and blankets in our cities are ugly, AGREED but what do you suggest for the problem of homelessness?

We're supposed to be the greatest and wealthiest nation ever, right?

How do we fix this? Or should we not try and let the poorest continue to sprawl out and survive as best they can?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79556115


I don’t understand how a person with native English can’t afford rent in English-speaking country. Living in a very expensive city - just move anywhere much cheaper.

Find a job as a starter? Find a better job after that? Start with not paid/volunteer job? All those things that they teach immigrants (legal immigrants). Find survival job and learn a new profession if you did not learn to do anything useful yet?

Thousands of immigrants (not refugees) come to USA and Canada and do well even when starting with no English or money in their pockets. If a person was born in USA and Canada and cannot find a job, it means he/she does not want to find a job.

There is no such thing as “can’t afford a rent”. But there is a thing ‘don’t want to do anything to afford a rent’.
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Incarcerate the homeless in FEMA camps?
The right wing is supposed to be appalled at the prospect of FEMA camps.

All these tents and blankets in our cities are ugly, AGREED but what do you suggest for the problem of homelessness?

We're supposed to be the greatest and wealthiest nation ever, right?

How do we fix this? Or should we not try and let the poorest continue to sprawl out and survive as best they can?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79556115


They need to be arrested and assigned a financial counselor to get them on the right track...that will lead to mental health care workers and case workers to help find affordable housing and jobs...
 Quoting: BRIEF


I agree...

They should also open up the Sanitariums and put the mentally challenged there to get mental health and required meds...

When they disbanded the Sanitariums many were left homeless...
 Quoting: DuckNCover


That would be much better than individual welfare checks and constant rental abuse...
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10/29/2020 11:02 AM
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See, y'all want the federal and state government to remedyen masse homelessness. Well, families did this in history and that is likely who will.do it now.

Blame globalism. All these folks who are going to be unemployedhave service jobs. We don't make things in America as we shuttered the factories.

Why do you think President Trump is trying to reopen the factories?

The supply chain is BROKEN. You globalist freaks bet everything on China. Well, your own adult children are now unemployed and homeless.
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10/29/2020 11:03 AM
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Re: People who can't afford rent have to live somewhere. What's your suggestion?
At the Government's mansion for the poor people by the poor people
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10/29/2020 11:04 AM
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Re: People who can't afford rent have to live somewhere. What's your suggestion?
We managed to live thousands of years without houses, somehow...

If you don’t contribute to society, why should society furnish your needs?


You want a suggestion?
Start collecting cardboard boxes, winter is coming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79010667


Life expectancy without a home/apartment is just a few years...
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The welfare system could even have its own currency, the welfare dollar, which could only be spent in welfare stores where preselected items are available, such as nutritious foods and durable clothing...
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Real visionaries with health, energy, money and time, would start nation wide non profit organization with alternative building models, and this blueprint, and they'd be true nonprofits, not the kind that draw enormous salaries and its just a ponzy scheme. And they'd be already doing this. Should have been done all along. And setting up each eco farm as its own branch and local councils of citizens.

There shouldn't be any homeless at all.

Thousands of years of people herded into scarsity and dog eat dog survival by wormshit demons running the world.

So many dreams, happiness, joy, talents destroyed and wasted.

So many lost and hurt and traumatized people and youth.

And I've never supported the world's economic systems or its gods.

Governments should not and must not run what I'm talking about. So its not a political party thing.

Its about being good and caring and decent and getting real organizations run by people, run by councils of citizens, in unity. For the happiness, joy, abundance of all. and development.

In the end, where there is no end, for there is really no time, just infinite happiness and growth and helping others, everyone would be buying from all their amazing cottage industries, if there was still money, otherwise contributing Venus Project style. But if they're buying and selling, from each other, they would boycott all globalists and monopolies and destroy the elite.

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10/29/2020 11:14 AM
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You can just forget about Christmas presents and vacations now. Those days are over.

You need to focus on practical living like knowing what is the shelflife of various pantry items. That is what is important as you may be cooking for 8 people now.

Everybody pitches in. You aren't running a hotel or restaurant.

All those jobs that got neglected, now are done by your hapless relatives.

They sign up for whatever food aid, and you eat simple soups and stews and everything is made from scratch.

No more prime rib. No more fresh seafood. Not on a hamhocks and beans and cornbread budget.
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10/29/2020 11:16 AM
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Incarcerate the homeless in FEMA camps?
The right wing is supposed to be appalled at the prospect of FEMA camps.

All these tents and blankets in our cities are ugly, AGREED but what do you suggest for the problem of homelessness?

We're supposed to be the greatest and wealthiest nation ever, right?

How do we fix this? Or should we not try and let the poorest continue to sprawl out and survive as best they can?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79556115


they are only appalled at the prospect of THEMSELVES going to FEMA camps, anyone else goes it's ok with them.

and THAT is the problem, we have perfectly selfish people who will allow absolutely ANYTHING to happen to someone else
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10/29/2020 11:17 AM
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This is patented. You owe $420 to the inventor for every home you manufacture using this process.
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Vacant run down buildings could be purchased by the city, in partnership with charities, and converted to group homes with counselors on hand. Either live there permanently or, with job training and counseling, get employed and move on to their own place after awhile.
The first step is to get a roof over their heads with heat and facilities, then the counseling and job training is more long term effective.
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10/29/2020 11:18 AM
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Here's a shelflife list.

Cardboard boxes don't last. They collapse when stacked. You want plastic bins. You label the outside. You can stack them 3 and no more than four high. They make ones that are short and fit under beds.

Nobody takes long showers. Everyone cleans up after themselves. Everyone has chores.

You better plan the garden NOW and so plowing is easier come spring. I suggest you get soaker hoses. Test your soil and add ammenities now. Put down manure now so it overwinters.

Pray we don'thave a bad winter.
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10/29/2020 11:21 AM
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plenty of government funded shelters but they require
drug searches upon entry and most would rather
have their drugs than a roof for the night.
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10/29/2020 11:24 AM
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Re: People who can't afford rent have to live somewhere. What's your suggestion?
Move out of high rent areas
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10/29/2020 11:24 AM
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Re: People who can't afford rent have to live somewhere. What's your suggestion?
If you have never gardened before, get a usedcopy of Square Foot Gardening. That will be you primary reading. It teaches in a common sense way.

I suggest you double dig to get the best root growth. That is called the French biodynamic method. To get a jump on spring planting, use cloches. You can greatly extend your harvest.

You better learn wild edibles now. Your first big project will be tapping maple trees. Read up on freezing maple syrup so yu discard much of the watery sap and then boil down the rest.

You are going to figure out ways to cut corners a LOT. If the family moving in has young children, kids outgrow clothing fast, so figure out a rotation so handmedowns get to whoever needs them.
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10/29/2020 11:34 AM
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The real question is, what should society do with useless people? and how much as a percentage of your earnings do you want to give to keep them alive and homed?

My answer is zero. But yours may be more, and what is your solution when that percentage increases every year?
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Pray for those who have nothing.

What a horrible thing for anyone to experience.

Not only do you have nothing but society looks down upon you too.

Being homeless doesn't sound like fun at all.
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No it doesn’t......
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10/29/2020 11:41 AM
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Move them out of the cities and into the woods.
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I'm sure many would like that (hunt and fish, happy campfires?) but they're currently not allowed to stay on public lands. You get arrested.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79556115


If they can’t survive in the modern mechanized world what makes you think they can survive in the wilderness?

Most of these people are where they are is because they didn’t want to ever work for a living. Many thought it was a better deal to collect free money living off of welfare than working a job. Now its wintertime and with it comes their collective moments of discontent.
PS,
Most of the psychosis excuses are a result of drug use, not the other way around.

Forever and a day throughout these people’s lives thought the working class were complete chumps working their jobs while they drink beer in the morning collecting welfare
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Move them out of the cities and into the woods.
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No! They will trash the woods, just like the streets and tunnels
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plenty of government funded shelters but they require
drug searches upon entry and most would rather
have their drugs than a roof for the night.
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Start the ball rolling op. How many can you home at your place?
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There’s plenty of abandoned empty commercial spaces these days. It would be interesting if people were free to retrofit dead malls into small scale model sustainable villages as a working blueprint for future development of cities. The fountains could even be converted to growing food. It seems America doesn’t even want to try and get creative about a solution, it’s depressing. We have reached the point in time where we need arcologies like the ones from sim city. The mega sprawling metro areas of today have become absolute wastelands just as predicted by futurists decades ago.
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Start the ball rolling op. How many can you home at your place?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75445675


None, I don't have a place currently.

Yes, I'm homeless, just like Trinity was at one time. He'll admit it, there's no shame. But it is very weird and uncomfortable.

America has to find a better system to deal with this problem.
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Incarcerate the homeless in FEMA camps?
The right wing is supposed to be appalled at the prospect of FEMA camps.

All these tents and blankets in our cities are ugly, AGREED but what do you suggest for the problem of homelessness?

We're supposed to be the greatest and wealthiest nation ever, right?

How do we fix this? Or should we not try and let the poorest continue to sprawl out and survive as best they can?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79556115


They need to be arrested and assigned a financial counselor to get them on the right track...that will lead to mental health care workers and case workers to help find affordable housing and jobs...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Fuck you dude. Seriously fuck you so hard with a hot glowing cherry red ass poker. I hope you get whats coning to you in the upcoming chaos. Youre literally scum....if your even a real human being at all.





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