Oregon decriminalized all drugs last night.

And so we set broken glass on the path of our children saying if they step upon it, it is their fault for not choosing to tread more carefully. Yet we knowingly put them in harms way. There is nothing good to come of using any drug recreationally that can kill the user.

Yes, junkies are great and mind thier own business,you obviously have never had to deal with them.

2020 election was about protecting the children. We failed them presently.

failing the children? oh come on people.

There are 2 possibilities here. Just 2. No grey area. Black and White.

Possibility 1: People don't have free will. They are controlled by their environment .. always. If there is a unregistered gun just laying on the ground, it will force the first passerby to pick it up and use it immediately.

Possibility 2: People do have full control over themselves and it will always be their free will that determines their path through life. The external environment does not corrupt. Corruption is through deliberate self choices and nothing else.


So what is it people? Do we have free will and are in control of our own destinies?

Or does the external world control us instead?

Yep, next will be pedo decriminalization laws so they can prey on children while high on drugs.just like California.

Let's load up all the drug-addicted criminals from all the other 49 states and ship their asses out there !!! Good Riddance!Happy Trails ECT.

DENIAL DENIAL DENIAL

WELCOME TO DEMOCRACY

TRUMP LOST - IF the guy was a bit more likeable he could have won it

Don't worry guys in 6 months you can go back to chanting USA USA USA USA

SO you are saying that people really can't control themselves and it is the external worlds that determines actions.

Hmmm, I wonder, how do we correct this?

What about people that can't handle and moderate their calorie/sugar/harmful food intake? Should we lock them up as well? Their cost on society is just as great or greater than the druggies.

You won't have to ship them,"if you build it they will come".just like the weed, i see cars from every state in the U.S this time of year.

Defund the police and legalize hard drugs......what can go wrong?......lol.....

Big difference between twinkies and heroin. Fat people don't steal from you to support their habit.

Yep... Oregon will become the corner crack-house on the US block, and will have an increase in all the same co-afflictions:

Human trafficking
Murder
Rape
Etc...
You name it.... courtesy of GS.

Hmmm, through medicare and medicaid I would bet the people with poor eating habits rob far more of my money than the druggies will ever be able to. I would even put a factor of 10 or greater on the amount of my taxes that are used for disabilities and medical care for people with no self control in their eating habits.

This emboldens the Mexican drug cartels selling meth and heroin great job Oregon

Yep. There was absolutely no demand for it before here in the states so the cartels never gained a foothold. I mean before, those cartels had to come into the states and force people to ingest their drugs at gun point. .... Now, everything has changed ...

really, that is your story and you are sticking with it?

Like it wasn't already there. Gives the cops an out. Hopefully more OD's, less trash

Do your goddamn research on the studies and science of entheogens before spewing your idiocracy.

Yes keep Pretending that there is no crimes associated with heavy drug use or that your taxes don't go to feeding them.

In certain areas of Florida patriotism and hope are still alive...just for you to consider. Also, alaska is cold as fuck. Lol

Good luck wherever you may go.

I don't pretend that there aren't rotten people out there that take a toll on society. I don't pretend my taxes don't support and fund them ... just like I also realize that my taxes fuels our war machine that kills innocents the world over.

But if I am going to point my fucking finger at something ... it has better be big enough to point at all of the issues that are exact duplicates. Because if I am pointing at drugs as the cause of human suffering instead of the person itself, my finger better be big enough to encompass the entire earth as would be needed with suck a stupid theory.

I moved to Washington from Destin my friend! I like the PNW much better, and I spent 6 years in Alaska sailing. Alaska is where I will end up once my career is over regardless, only indecision there is if I cut my time in Washington early or not.

They can also let you see the starry night sky with 3D vision. And you don't even need the special glasses.

choose your battles then. Right now we are talking about Oregon and the decriminalization bill that just passed

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I am choosing. This is one of the biggest issues that will face us in determining our future path to freedom or slavery. It is all related and frankly, pretty simple.

Either, do we have free will or don't we?

Do we have the internal strength to overcome this reality or does this reality corrupt regardless of the person?

You may try and reframe the argument to bits and pieces ... grey areas ... but in the end it all boils down to free will.

Do drugs determine the person or does the person determine the person?

we already have a bunch of drug addicted homeless...

This one is really smart.

It just works.

Read John M Allegros book on Jesus and mushrooms.

Because if the environment determines the person and how they will act, we are screwed. not savable. irredeemable. lost.

if the environment determines all. there is nothing there to save. no free will. no soul. then it doesn't really matter at all.

I was speaking to a person several years ago who said that narco gangs and a lot of corruption and crime associated with hard drugs in Mexico wouldn't be as bad if drugs were de-criminalized. LOL.

That was not any better than someone assuming that crimes involving guns would be way lower if firearms had to be registered and increasingly restricted.

By the way, handguns are way more restricted/controlled in Mexico, yet the last time I checked their crime rates were, uh, a bit high.

All of this is sort of like assuming that the honor system will be totally respected when a company gives its employees free office supplies and free lunches. Before you know it, no stationary is left in the storage room and millions of lunches are squirreled away and taken home for sis, granny, the girlfriend, the sitter, the grandkids, etc.