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Could someone please tell me the difference between Musharraf's emergency rule and Bush's National Emergency Act?

 
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Could someone please tell me the difference between Musharraf's emergency rule and Bush's National Emergency Act?
They're both dictators who place themselves in charge of all branches of government with no Constitution or separation of powers.

I'm not exaggerating -- Bush just extended his most recent "National Emergency Act" on September 12th:

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
September 12, 2007

Notice: Continuation of the National Emergency with Respect to Certain Terrorist Attacks

White House News

Consistent with section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)), I am continuing for 1 year the national emergency I declared on September 14, 2001, in Proclamation 7463, with respect to the terrorist attacks at the World Trade Center, New York, New York, the Pentagon, and aboard United Airlines flight 93, and the continuing and immediate threat of further attacks on the United States.

Because the terrorist threat continues, the national emergency declared on September 14, 2001, last extended on September 5, 2006, and the powers and authorities adopted to deal with that emergency, must continue in effect beyond September 14, 2007. Therefore, I am continuing in effect for an additional year the national emergency I declared on September 14, 2001, with respect to the terrorist threat.

This notice shall be published in the Federal Register and transmitted to the Congress.

GEORGE W. BUSH

# # #

[link to www.whitehouse.gov]


Bush To Be Dictator In A Catastrophic Emergency

By Lee Rogers

Global Research, May 21, 2007

The Bush administration has released a directive called the National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive. The directive released on May 9th, 2007 has gone almost unnoticed by the mainstream and alternative media. In this directive, Bush declares that in the event of a “Catastrophic Emergency”, the President will be entrusted with leading the activities to ensure constitutional government. The language in this directive would in effect make the President a dictator in the case of such an emergency.  

The directive defines a “Catastrophic Emergency” as the following:

"Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;

So what does this mean? This is entirely subjective and doesn’t provide any real concrete definition of what such an emergency would entail. Assuming that it means a disaster on the scale of the 9/11 attacks or Katrina, there is no question that the United States at some point in time will experience an emergency on par with either of those events. When one of those events takes place, the President will be a dictator in charge of ensuring a working constitutional government.

The language written in the directive is disturbing because it doesn’t say that the President will work with the other branches of government equally to ensure a constitutional government is protected. It says clearly that there will be a cooperative effort among the three branches that will be coordinated by the President. If the President is coordinating these efforts it effectively puts him in charge of every branch. The language in the directive is entirely Orwellian in nature making it seem that it is a cooperative effort between all three branches but than it says that the President is in charge of the cooperative effort.

The directive defines Enduring Constitutional Government as the following.

"Enduring Constitutional Government," or "ECG," means a cooperative effort among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal Government, coordinated by the President, as a matter of comity with respect to the legislative and judicial branches and with proper respect for the constitutional separation of powers among the branches, to preserve the constitutional framework under which the Nation is governed and the capability of all three branches of government to execute constitutional responsibilities and provide for orderly succession, appropriate transition of leadership, and interoperability and support of the National Essential Functions during a catastrophic emergency;

Further on in the document it states the following.

The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government.

This directive on its face is unconstitutional because each branch of government the executive, legislative and judicial are supposed to be equal in power. By putting the President in charge of coordinating such an effort to ensure constitutional government over all three branches is effectively making the President a dictator allowing him to tell all branches of government what to do.

Even worse is the fact that the directive states that the Secretary of Homeland Security will serve as the lead for coordinating overall continuity operations. We already know that the Homeland Security department is not really working to secure the homeland. Instead the Homeland Security department is really working to enslave the homeland just like the Home Office over in the United Kingdom has made that country an Orwellian hell of closed-circuit TV spy cameras. If such an emergency is declared, we can only guess what sort of surprises the Homeland Enslavement department will have for us.

The directive itself recognizes that each branch is already responsible for directing their own continuity of government procedures. If that’s the case than why does the President need to coordinate these procedures for all of the branches? This is nothing more than a power grab that centralizes power and will make the President a dictator in the case of a so called “Catastrophic Emergency”.

It is insane that this directive claims that its purpose is to define procedures to protect a working constitutional government when the very language in the document destroys what a working constitutional government is supposed to be. A working constitutional government contains a separation of powers between three equally powerful branches and this directive states that the executive branch has the power to coordinate the activities of the other branches. This directive is a clear violation of constitutional separation of powers and there should be angry protests from our legislators about this anti-American garbage that came from the President.

[link to www.globalresearch.ca]
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Re: Could someone please tell me the difference between Musharraf's emergency rule and Bush's National Emergency Act?
There are differences, for example: If Bush were to do this, he would use the media to his advantage and propagandize the people into supporting the cause. Musharraf blames terrorism, Bush would blame terrorism - but would a better story, and would include false-flag attacks to shake up the masses. If not, Bush wouldn't just shut down the media, he would completely do this, as well as shut down electricity, gas, water, communications, end sales of all products including food and everything else. Bush would have the entire country, one hundred percent shut down, until the situation is better under control. If you weren't fighting them, then you would be sitting in your home, no lights, no heat, no television, no Internet, no phone, no anything. Just darkness, eerie, quiet darkness - waiting for the situation to blow over, and waiting to learn what's happening.

The nation, including the resistance, would be shut down, and the only people who would be mobile and comfortable, would be the military and police, and perhaps dissenters right up until they found themselves dead. The difference is, Musharraf doesn't know what he'd doing, and doesn't realize he could *own* Pakistan by this time next week, if he were going about this properly.
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11/04/2007 03:09 AM
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Re: Could someone please tell me the difference between Musharraf's emergency rule and Bush's National Emergency Act?
Well, Musharraf has a cool moustache, and dies his hair, whereas Bush has nothing to cover his monkey face, and also dies his hair...

Not much difference, I suppose.

They both fiddled with their respective supreme courts, dabble in false flag events, and completely abuse their authority.

Bush came into office through fraud and a court decision to stop counting the ballots. Musharraf sort of took control because he was the senior military guy.

Whereas Bush flew airplanes for a couple years, then went AWOL for a couple years. I think Musharraf is the more honest man, who actually knows how to work.
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11/04/2007 03:15 AM
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Re: Could someone please tell me the difference between Musharraf's emergency rule and Bush's National Emergency Act?
One is happening now.
One isn't.

One is in Pakistan
The other scenerio is in the USA.

About all I can think of right now.


Ps, learn from this.
Get a shortwave radio, get supplies, get a power source alternate the main one (generator, solar, whatever) have a few weeks water and food on hand)

Plan on living off the "grid" gor an extended period of time.

Have means of defending your survival supplies and living quarters.

They can shut off your TV, PHONE, CELLPHONE, HEAT, WATER, ELECTRICITY...ETC.....
Plan on how to cope without these things.
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One of the first things you should do in any emergency is to fill up the bathtub with water.

The water in the tank above the toilets is also clean, good water.
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Re: Could someone please tell me the difference between Musharraf's emergency rule and Bush's National Emergency Act?
Most of the american people have no clue as to bushes actions. If you told them they would laugh in your face and then talk about how Ohio State is going to go all the way!

Musharraf's emergency rule is in effect, and well known. The people there are not obsesed with sports, and are willing to support a coup to oust the zionist boot lickers.
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Re: Could someone please tell me the difference between Musharraf's emergency rule and Bush's National Emergency Act?
The difference is, Musharraf doesn't know what he'd doing, and doesn't realize he could *own* Pakistan by this time next week, if he were going about this properly.
 Quoting: kits


Can you explain how he could *own* Pakistan? Thanks.

As an aside, I'm pleasantly surprised by the cogent answers on this thread.
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The difference?

Musharraf is doing it.

George is taking notes.

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11/04/2007 10:22 AM
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Re: Could someone please tell me the difference between Musharraf's emergency rule and Bush's National Emergency Act?
Not much difference...
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Yes, at least musharraf can take a bunch of the Islamic fanatics out around a corner and put a bullet in their head...I think that is what Bush should do with everyone in the ACLU by the way!!!
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I hope this martial law doesn't affect my drug dealer! I live in pindi, islamabads neighbouring city hf
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Prime Minister Trudeau of Canada passed Emergency War Powers Act during the FLQ crises in Quebec Canada. The Current Governor General of Canada's Husband has been seen in film toasting the separtist movement. Anyways, Trudea, a known socialist & Jesuit put these powers in place and no Canadian leaders have rescinded them yet.

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Pervez carries a gun. He's more in your face about it.
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Far as I can see the only dif between the two of them is Musharraf speaks better inglish! Other than that Dictators the pair of them!
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Yes, at least musharraf can take a bunch of the Islamic fanatics out around a corner and put a bullet in their head...I think that is what Bush should do with everyone in the ACLU by the way!!!
 Quoting: zazzman 266089

In fascist times like these, you should be thankful for the ACLU or anyone who'll defend your civil liberties. In case you haven't noticed, they're not the ones who've been removing your rights, freedoms and privacy.
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Thank you anonymous coward, you pwn.
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Re: Could someone please tell me the difference between Musharraf's emergency rule and Bush's National Emergency Act?
Can you show me how many senators, congressmen, lawyers, politicians or others that have opposed Bush are now locked up
in detention camps?

ZERO


Can you see the difference now?

NO


You just want to attack Bush and slander America that it is just like Pakistan.


That my friend is just being an asshole, is it not?
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I have not lost any liberies, civil rights, or anything like that. Do you think I care if big brother is looking over my shoulder...I dont but then again I have nothing to hide.
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I have not lost any liberies, civil rights, or anything like that. Do you think I care if big brother is looking over my shoulder...I dont but then again I have nothing to hide.
 Quoting: zazzman 266089

Sounds like a typical sheople, response!
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I have not lost any liberies, civil rights, or anything like that. Do you think I care if big brother is looking over my shoulder...I dont but then again I have nothing to hide.
 Quoting: zazzman 266089


How do you know you have nothing to hide? Do you even know what "they" are looking for? I hear you say, "Well, I'm not a terrorist." How do you know that? What is the definition of a terrorist? Have "they" told us in no uncertain terms exactly which actions constitute terrorism? Point out to me the place where this definition is written and written into law? You can't, I'm sure. And how do you know your rights have not been infringed upon? Do you even know what your rights are? Is there any accountability that tells us when our rights have been infringed upon? Do you know what a National Security Letter is? Do you know if your ISP is handing over all your communications to the government? You don't. You don't know any of these things. Yet, you think that you are free and innconent.
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So in the event of a catastrophic emergency, say like your islamic buddies nuking NY - you would want - what? indecision indecisiveness, government paralysis, - that IS what you want isn't it! - just as you would prefer Musharrif is toppled by the jihadis - so they can get their hands on the nukes!
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Re: Could someone please tell me the difference between Musharraf's emergency rule and Bush's National Emergency Act?
First the similarities:

both are CIA (f)tools, both are underestimating their population's acceptance to such rule, both have no clue as to the end game and are just hoping to stay in power, both are blaming extremists/terrorists as their excuse.

now the differences:

one is called an Emergency Rule the other Emergency Act,
one tries to eliminate the press because it actually is an opposition force, the other uses the press to control the sheeple because it is in league with the administration,
one tries to eliminate judges and legislation that tries to stop the illegal power grab, the other allows the court and congress to continue because they are controlled already.





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