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BLOCKCHAIN PROOF -- Trump Just Told Us All The Rumors Are True -- THRESHOLD CRYPTOGRAPY

 
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The threshold identification of Ballots is turning out to be even bigger than originally anticipated. A very large number of Ballots are impacted. Stay tuned!

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

The above Tweet was sent out by PRESIDENT TRUMP. Although I don't know much about the ins and outs of cyber security when I searched the term in a TOR browser using DuckDuckGo a much smaller forum I found this reply on the same topic:

"A threshold identification scheme is a scheme in which the proof of the group identity can be identified"

So I did some more searching and found the following:


Threshold cryptosystem

A threshold cryptosystem, the basis for the field of threshold cryptography, is a cryptosystem that protects information by encrypting it and distributing it among a cluster of fault-tolerant computers. The message is encrypted using a public key, and the corresponding private key is shared among the participating parties. With a threshold cryptosystem, in order to decrypt an encrypted message or to sign a message, several parties (more than some threshold number) must cooperate in the decryption or signature protocol.

Historically, only organizations with very valuable secrets, such as certificate authorities, the military, and governments made use of this technology. One of the earliest implementations was done in the 1990s by Certco for the planned deployment of the original Secure electronic transaction.

The most common application is in the storage of secrets in multiple locations to prevent the capture of the secret and the subsequent cryptanalysis of that system. Most often the secrets that are "split" are the secret key material of a public key cryptography or of a Digital signature scheme. The method primarily enforces the decryption or the signing operation to take place only if a threshold of the secret sharer operates (otherwise the operation is not made). This makes the method a primary trust sharing mechanism, besides its safety of storage aspects.


[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Public-key cryptography

Public-key cryptography, or asymmetric cryptography, is a cryptographic system that uses pairs of keys: public keys, which may be disseminated widely, and private keys, which are known only to the owner. The generation of such keys depends on cryptographic algorithms based on mathematical problems to produce one-way functions. Effective security only requires keeping the private key private; the public key can be openly distributed without compromising security

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Digital signature

A digital signature is a mathematical scheme for verifying the authenticity of digital messages or documents. A valid digital signature, where the prerequisites are satisfied, gives a recipient very strong reason to believe that the message was created by a known sender (authentication), and that the message was not altered in transit (integrity).

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

So the term "threshold" seems to deal with a specific type of cyber security that relies on being hidden in plain sight. Multiple people can have a key but the master key lies in the hands of one person. It doesn't appear that person can access the data though unless multiple people are present.

It reminds me of the movies that have require two people to drop the nukes with physical keys but on a much wider spectrum with a virtually unlimited amount of other key holders, all reliant on the master key and vice versa.

If I was going to try to the oust the cheating ass dems then I'd damn sure want witnesses!

But it gets better ...


What are the Benefits of Threshold Signatures for Crypto Wallets?

The risk of losing your private key can be greatly reduced by means of a simple idea: use more than one key to sign a transaction. A “multi-layer” policy can be used to protect the private key by, for example, requiring three out of five signatures to successfully sign a transaction. In this case, someone who wants to steal your assets would need at least three of your keys, and, on the other hand, your assets are not lost as long as you do not lose more than two keys. If you lose just one or two keys, a recovery mechanism might be in place which helps you to “restore” your keys.

Threshold signatures are a special kind of public key cryptography. Instead of deriving the public key from a single private key, in threshold signatures each participating party has its own secret share and must jointly calculate the group public key. Hence, there is no single private key anymore, and the risk associated with its custody is distributed.

Multi-signatures are implemented in the blockchain as a smart contract or, in the case of Bitcoin as a special OP code. The contract contains a list of n public keys along with some number 0 < t+1 <= n for the threshold. The blockchain does not accept a transaction if it is signed by less or equal to t keys.


[link to blog.coinfabrik.com (secure)]

There you have it GLP. The blockchain rumor is real and to those of us that understand how to interpret Trump, he just tweeted out how real the rumors are!!!

### UPDATE ###



The "watermark" is like a QR code I think. The Blockchain and threshold cryptography probably has to do with reading the water marks.

It's a two-tiered defense system.


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nice work!
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No, this is something entirely different. Sorry.
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No, this is something entirely different. Sorry.
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Good afternoon Joe
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Title needs fixed please. "Threshold"
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Title needs fixed please. "Threshold"
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OOPs!


Thanks, I reckon I got in a hurry towards the end.

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Huge. Is this watermark proof?

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Huge. Is this watermark proof?
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Absolutely!
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Interesting. But can somebody explain how exactly this would help with paper ballots? Or even electronic ballots?

It seems that it serves an entirely different purpose than separating valid votes from fraudulent votes. Unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible, so, honest questions. I'm not trying to be a smartass, I genuinely don't get it.
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Huge. Is this watermark proof?
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Absolutely!
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I think so ... I'm really not sure but the tweet was way too cryptic to be something simple.

Additionally "Threshold Identification" seems to be some sort of medical term or a term used in scientific experimentation most commonly used with antibody treatments but I hadn't had time to make any sense of that aspect of it.
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Interesting. But can somebody explain how exactly this would help with paper ballots? Or even electronic ballots?

It seems that it serves an entirely different purpose than separating valid votes from fraudulent votes. Unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible, so, honest questions. I'm not trying to be a smartass, I genuinely don't get it.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


It has something to do with quantum computing. I'm digging into it now but I haven't found a precise statement that says what I think I'm reading.

It's not a watermark, like you would think. It's an implement that can only be read through a quantum computer and has something to do with changing it's molecular state using semiconductors.

The reading I'm doing is way over my head and one of the analogies read, "It's like explaining gravity defying cars to the Flintstones".
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Interesting. But can somebody explain how exactly this would help with paper ballots? Or even electronic ballots?

It seems that it serves an entirely different purpose than separating valid votes from fraudulent votes. Unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible, so, honest questions. I'm not trying to be a smartass, I genuinely don't get it.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


It has something to do with quantum computing. I'm digging into it now but I haven't found a precise statement that says what I think I'm reading.

It's not a watermark, like you would think. It's an implement that can only be read through a quantum computer and has something to do with changing it's molecular state using semiconductors.

The reading I'm doing is way over my head and one of the analogies read, "It's like explaining gravity defying cars to the Flintstones".
 Quoting: CrsCrpr


Lmao. Yes, exactly my issue. Way over my head. Guess, I'll have to wait and see.
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The postal service has a patent on this. They marked mail out ballots only.


This is Trumps insurance policy IMO.
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OP. I read your threads over the last year. You are legit. You always post good stuff.
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We may never hear about it beyond rumor if they don't need to use it.
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Interesting. But can somebody explain how exactly this would help with paper ballots? Or even electronic ballots?

It seems that it serves an entirely different purpose than separating valid votes from fraudulent votes. Unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible, so, honest questions. I'm not trying to be a smartass, I genuinely don't get it.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


It has something to do with quantum computing. I'm digging into it now but I haven't found a precise statement that says what I think I'm reading.

It's not a watermark, like you would think. It's an implement that can only be read through a quantum computer and has something to do with changing it's molecular state using semiconductors.

The reading I'm doing is way over my head and one of the analogies read, "It's like explaining gravity defying cars to the Flintstones".
 Quoting: CrsCrpr


Lmao. Yes, exactly my issue. Way over my head. Guess, I'll have to wait and see.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought




The "watermark" is like a QR code I think. The Blockchain and threshold cryptography probably has to do with reading the water marks.

It's a two-tiered defense system.
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Interesting. But can somebody explain how exactly this would help with paper ballots? Or even electronic ballots?

It seems that it serves an entirely different purpose than separating valid votes from fraudulent votes. Unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible, so, honest questions. I'm not trying to be a smartass, I genuinely don't get it.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


It has something to do with quantum computing. I'm digging into it now but I haven't found a precise statement that says what I think I'm reading.

It's not a watermark, like you would think. It's an implement that can only be read through a quantum computer and has something to do with changing it's molecular state using semiconductors.

The reading I'm doing is way over my head and one of the analogies read, "It's like explaining gravity defying cars to the Flintstones".
 Quoting: CrsCrpr


Lmao. Yes, exactly my issue. Way over my head. Guess, I'll have to wait and see.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought




The "watermark" is like a QR code I think. The Blockchain and threshold cryptography probably has to do with reading the water marks.

It's a two-tiered defense system.
 Quoting: CrsCrpr


The way I read it it sounded more like a modern day codebook.

You'd give everybody reporting to a singular person a key that encrypted the information then the singular guy at the top was the only guy who could decrypt it so it didn't matter if it got intercepted.

Thing is is that I'm pretty certain we've had that capability for awhile now. So I don't have any idea.

I get the watermark stuff, this just seemed more for encryption/decryption but maybe there's a way of using it I'm not sure about.

Maybe putting a quantum encrypted watermark that says something specific that way if it's intercepted and duplicated it would still be identifiable? I guess that could be theoretically possible.
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It has something to do with quantum computing. I'm digging into it now but I haven't found a precise statement that says what I think I'm reading.

It's not a watermark, like you would think. It's an implement that can only be read through a quantum computer and has something to do with changing it's molecular state using semiconductors.

The reading I'm doing is way over my head and one of the analogies read, "It's like explaining gravity defying cars to the Flintstones".
 Quoting: CrsCrpr


Lmao. Yes, exactly my issue. Way over my head. Guess, I'll have to wait and see.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought




The "watermark" is like a QR code I think. The Blockchain and threshold cryptography probably has to do with reading the water marks.

It's a two-tiered defense system.
 Quoting: CrsCrpr


The way I read it it sounded more like a modern day codebook.

You'd give everybody reporting to a singular person a key that encrypted the information then the singular guy at the top was the only guy who could decrypt it so it didn't matter if it got intercepted.

Thing is is that I'm pretty certain we've had that capability for awhile now. So I don't have any idea.

I get the watermark stuff, this just seemed more for encryption/decryption but maybe there's a way of using it I'm not sure about.

Maybe putting a quantum encrypted watermark that says something specific that way if it's intercepted and duplicated it would still be identifiable? I guess that could be theoretically possible.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


It gets better. I'm still researching it and trying to find the "smoking gun" but remember the rumors that a radioactive isotope was used? Come to find out back in 2008 the US unveiled an ARAM (I think) system that could find a radioactive isotope the size of a grain of salt moving at 45 mph.

No wonder they keep finding the tossed out Trump ballots.
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Lmao. Yes, exactly my issue. Way over my head. Guess, I'll have to wait and see.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought




The "watermark" is like a QR code I think. The Blockchain and threshold cryptography probably has to do with reading the water marks.

It's a two-tiered defense system.
 Quoting: CrsCrpr


The way I read it it sounded more like a modern day codebook.

You'd give everybody reporting to a singular person a key that encrypted the information then the singular guy at the top was the only guy who could decrypt it so it didn't matter if it got intercepted.

Thing is is that I'm pretty certain we've had that capability for awhile now. So I don't have any idea.

I get the watermark stuff, this just seemed more for encryption/decryption but maybe there's a way of using it I'm not sure about.

Maybe putting a quantum encrypted watermark that says something specific that way if it's intercepted and duplicated it would still be identifiable? I guess that could be theoretically possible.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


It gets better. I'm still researching it and trying to find the "smoking gun" but remember the rumors that a radioactive isotope was used? Come to find out back in 2008 the US unveiled an ARAM (I think) system that could find a radioactive isotope the size of a grain of salt moving at 45 mph.

No wonder they keep finding the tossed out Trump ballots.
 Quoting: CrsCrpr


Would certainly explain a lot. The press conference with Giuliani comes to mind for one.
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The "watermark" is like a QR code I think. The Blockchain and threshold cryptography probably has to do with reading the water marks.

It's a two-tiered defense system.
 Quoting: CrsCrpr


The way I read it it sounded more like a modern day codebook.

You'd give everybody reporting to a singular person a key that encrypted the information then the singular guy at the top was the only guy who could decrypt it so it didn't matter if it got intercepted.

Thing is is that I'm pretty certain we've had that capability for awhile now. So I don't have any idea.

I get the watermark stuff, this just seemed more for encryption/decryption but maybe there's a way of using it I'm not sure about.

Maybe putting a quantum encrypted watermark that says something specific that way if it's intercepted and duplicated it would still be identifiable? I guess that could be theoretically possible.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


It gets better. I'm still researching it and trying to find the "smoking gun" but remember the rumors that a radioactive isotope was used? Come to find out back in 2008 the US unveiled an ARAM (I think) system that could find a radioactive isotope the size of a grain of salt moving at 45 mph.

No wonder they keep finding the tossed out Trump ballots.
 Quoting: CrsCrpr


Would certainly explain a lot. The press conference with Giuliani comes to mind for one.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


Or how about the seven military Trump ballots found? Seven? The ballots would have to have GPS to notice seven pieces of paper in a dumpster.
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This is going to make one helluva movie in a couple of years.
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This is going to make one helluva movie in a couple of years.
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This is going to make one helluva movie in a couple of years.
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I remember reading about public key cryptography some years back.


it was something I forgot about.... and it may be in play here.

there was a book about an Irish person who played a role in its development. If I find it, I will link to it here.
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I remember reading about public key cryptography some years back.


it was something I forgot about.... and it may be in play here.

there was a book about an Irish person who played a role in its development. If I find it, I will link to it here.
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From what I've been able to find it's all technology that is way over my head
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won't find her tonight, but the intricacies of the development of public key encryption are suggested here:

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I remember reading about public key cryptography some years back.


it was something I forgot about.... and it may be in play here.

there was a book about an Irish person who played a role in its development. If I find it, I will link to it here.
 Quoting: beeches


From what I've been able to find it's all technology that is way over my head
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it is quite over mine too, which made the book about her contribution so great to read.... lots of explanations of the concepts involved.

it really is fascinating.... locksmithing too
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I haven't been following this too close. I heard it's using blockchain. So think of Blockchain as an Excel Spreadsheet, that gets verified with everyone else's Excel Spreadsheet so it can't be changed, only added to, and only if everyone agrees (All verification points). It makes it very hard to hack! Very! So technically, depending on this "Watermark", if you have an identifier for each, using blockchain, you can theoretically track when it left the printer, and assuming a computer/scanner has updated it along the way via USPS or Ballot scanning, you will know its general location. Assuming no other tech was added.
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I assume, what they are saying with the watermarks is...If the Dems tried to just print off a whole bunch and add them to the pile of valid mail in votes, they will be easily detected and thrown out! Blockchain will tell them the movements after printing.
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Don’t the states print their own ballots? How would this mark end up on all of the ballots? This only makes sense if one site prints up all the ballots which I don’t think is the case.





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