Ok, Christmas trees are bad, Santa doesn´t exist, bahhh humbug!

I could go without a tree, but hubby insists.

SANTA is Satan! Look at the spelling!

you girls just need an Easy Bake Oven and a Barbie Corvette... come on you know you want them... Santa is watching and listening...

he´s making a list and checking it twice...

Festivus 4 All :)

notice santa lives not at the north pole, but at the mall. and he only comes out at shopping time. hmmmm...

saint nick? old nick!

saint capitalism!

The Torah Biblical holidays and holy days are found in Leviticus 23 and Deuteronomy
16. Time to get reacquainted with the Sabbath, Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread,
Feast of Weeks(Pentecost), Feast of Tabernacles, Day of Atonement and their spiritual
meanings. Don’t follow any extra days or traditions added by Talmud rabbis.

You can get together and have fun with God approved holy days.

You can take your Santa is Satan and do something unmentionable with it.

If everyday becomes just ordinary, how will we ever live extraordinary lives?

What noteworhty person do you know that didn´t have either hope or celebration in their heart, either as living it or as their dream?

Thanks for ruining it for me.

I never wanted my daughter to have to learn like this.

No.

No.

Not like this.

Christmas is the Devil´s Handiwork(tm)! Santa is Satan! Saint nick is Old Scratch! Don´t Nick and Scrtach mean the same thing?!?

Run screaming from your house! Burn all your Xmas decorations, or demons will stop using Ouija boards as their infernal interstate and start popping out of your Xmas tree! Aaaiiiiieeeeeeeee! Be afraid of everything! BE VEWY AFWRAID!!!!!!!!!!

You let your daughter on this site?

What kind of mom are you? lol

I am putting up my Nimrod tree in a week or so.

Full of memories of when I was 2 and up.


Bad, bad, evil Pithy!

Nice new nick Pithy. lmao

Pithy you Lying Rat Bastard! lmao

People need celebrations.




Why? Everyday should be a celebration when you find yourself alive in the morning. I don´t need to be told when and how to celebrate. Life is much simpler when following the beat of your own drum. And it is less expensive. Oh, and no fighting with those you had not rather be made to get together with.

Satan is Santa, kinda sorta.

But only in terms of failed imitation.

The spirit that gives is the spirit of God.

The spirit that desires is the spirit of Satan.

Christmas can be of either spirit. The choice is yours. This is not as simple as it sounds.

>>>>The spirit that gives is the spirit of God.


It´s what you define it as.

Giving, being nice, being thankful for what you have.

Nimrod tree or Christmas tree. It´s what´s in your heart that counts for something.

lol, same debate/different year eh, Pithy?

I agree with you.. a festival whose theme is "Peace on Earth,Goodwill to all men (and women)" is something I can celebrate.


One thing I loved about childhood was it´s magic. Tooth fairies, garden gnomes, dragonflies, wishing on the evening star... etc, etc. Because of this I´m reluctant to simply break the magic of what can be a special celebration in my childrens imaginations.

Seeing little kids who are enthralled by christmas "feeds" my christmas spirit. You know... the ones who so enjoy the whole experience and not just the presents. They´ll look for Santa or leave him milk and cookies, help with baking or decorations, belt out songs resembling carols. There´s a certain spark to their eye... they have a sweet and happy disposition. Fortunately, their cheer can be contagious (for me, at least).

I don´t care either way about a tree.

But the daughter still loves to get the christmas stuff out.

I got a 30 ft italian stone pine planted out back,
we got it as a christmas tree years back and planted
it when christmas was over.

But it is truly the thoughts that count.

>>>>One thing I loved about childhood was it´s magic. Tooth fairies, garden gnomes, dragonflies, wishing on the evening star... etc, etc.

CM - I love how you express things.

Exactly. It´s magic, it´s special.

Mr. Moose, thank you for the second reply to the question that actually answered the question. It´s for the kids and the kid in each of us.

I don´t want to live in a world that is made of up of all cynical adults.

So I won´t.

then give gifts when people *don´t expect them* if it the thought that counts.

I don´t want to live in a world that is made of up of all cynical adults.




But who wants to live in a world where people are like Pavlov´s dogs. They run shopping when the bell rings. And many do this even when they DON´T want to. That is truly mindless.

Santa comes on Christmas eve


then it´s all over


no one waits up the next night


to catch a glimpse of someone else

>>then give gifts when people *don´t expect them* if it the thought that counts.

It´s all about the gifts?

You so missed the point, you passed it on the way back. Here´s a free gift.

Be extraordinarly nice today, to one person, that doesn´t deserve it, just for the heck of it.

Or find someone, someone you don´t like and either say something nice or don´t say anything at all.

I don´t believe it is how we define it Pithy.

There IS an absolute...regardless of our various definitions.

When I speak of the spirit that gives, I wasn´t talking about Christmas gifts.

As for the tree...I used to love them. Now, I just view it as a mindless waste of life. But then most everything we do is mindless.

Be extraordinarly nice today, to one person, that doesn´t deserve it, just for the heck of it.

Or find someone, someone you don´t like and either say something nice or don´t say anything at all.


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That is right. We need to do this EVERYDAY and not just certain days or times of the year.

Pithy: "I don´t want to live in a world that is made of up of all cynical adults"

I couldn´t agree more! I love Christmas and everything that goes with it. I could drive around all night looking at Christmas lights and never tire of it. It IS about the children and my memories of Santa and all that goes along with it are priceless.

Personally, I don´t do Xmas. Total pack of lies and hypocracy IMO. It´s just like every other made up holiday...designed to part your hard earned money from you.



Peace

unibonger
11/29/2004
12:20 pm EST



agree

>>>>But then most everything we do is mindless.


Well, that just gets me up in the morning.


Unibonger. You don´t DO Christmas.

Take Halloween - total strangers come to your door looking for candy. Strangers interact with others. You actually talk to people that you don´t have to. Very bad. Kids have fun - very very bad.

Christmas as celebrated is just up a notch. People speak to other people. Wish each other HOLLIDAY greetings. Get together. Eat, drink and remember that other people are alive.

I wish everyday was like this. It isn´t.

Pithy

I´m not trying to say it´s bad to wish people well. I take the approach that I try and treat other people with respect all year round. Confining the ´good will towards men´ to one day is hypocritical IMO. Christmas has become nothing more than an all out assault of consumerism. BUY BUY BUY. If I fell like being generous and giving somebody something, I´m not going to wait for Xmas to do it. I´ll do it when I can afford it and when I fell it is appropriate. Christmas is for those who have religion and/or children. I have neither so it isn´t for me.

Besides, isn´t ´Christ´mas supposed to be about Christ´s birthday? WTF does stringing lights on your house, exchanging gifts or cutting down a perfectly good tree have to do with His birthday?

Ever wonder why I always end my posts with




Peace

Confining the ´good will towards men´ to one day is hypocritical IMO.



Yep, most people only think about being nice during the holidays (but then some become downright grouchy because of being made to do things they don´t want to because of the ´happy´ holidays) and then come January it is back to business as usual. It is like being bi-polar. Happy one minute only to get grouchy the next. The holidays really take a toll on people whether they realize it or not.

And if people say they do this for the children then stop the once a year madness and let the kids have fun year round. Give them presents when they least expect it and throw surprise parties other than on their birthdays. Decorate the house and light candles just because. Get creative and let kids know that happiness does not depend on stuff and being made to jump on the merry-go-round just because everyone else is. Let them be creative. There is really nothing creative doing something everyone else is doing.

One more thing, don´t do it for Jesus. He wasn´t born during this time of year and Dec. 25th has nothing to do with our Savior in the first place.