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Designated as Apocrypha, the book of Enoch is at least 800 years older than the Bible

 
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An ancient Hopi Indian prophecy states, "When the Blue Star Kachina makes its appearance in the heavens, the Fifth World will emerge". This will be the Day of Purification.

It's the same story. Both scripture and native prophecy/beliefs say that there will be light and life after approx 85% death of this planet's species.

From the video ^ after the Earth is smitten "..and He will help them all and light shall appear unto them and he will make peace with them .."

Life, Love, Humanitarianism, Death and Resurrection

^ That's millenia's old native knowledge & wisdom about the cycle of destruction our inner solar system and planet are stuck in.

The sun (the lord) will flicker but light will return.

How can humanity know these things? Because it's a cycle which was recorded in pre-history.
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An ancient Hopi Indian prophecy states, "When the Blue Star Kachina makes its appearance in the heavens, the Fifth World will emerge". This will be the Day of Purification.

It's the same story. Both scripture and native prophecy/beliefs say that there will be light and life after approx 85% death of this planet's species.

From the video ^ after the Earth is smitten "..and He will help them all and light shall appear unto them and he will make peace with them .."

Life, Love, Humanitarianism, Death and Resurrection

^ That's millenia's old native knowledge & wisdom about the cycle of destruction our inner solar system and planet are stuck in.

The sun (the lord) will flicker but light will return.

How can humanity know these things? Because it's a cycle which was recorded in pre-history.
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For those who follow mythology there is a character out of Mesopotamian myth known as Oannes - a fish god that teaches humanity during the day.

https://imgur.com/h8DR3DB


In essence this character is Viracocha, Quetzalcoatl or Jesus and any number of other 'teachers'.

The story is revealed across the four corners of Earth - meaning there was an ancient global advanced society, one that is denoted by the ancient monuments.

This is your birthright - your history!
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Is this where the pope got that stupid hat from?
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For those who follow mythology there is a character out of Mesopotamian myth known as Oannes - a fish god that teaches humanity during the day.

https://imgur.com/h8DR3DB


In essence this character is Viracocha, Quetzalcoatl or Jesus and any number of other 'teachers'.

The story is revealed across the four corners of Earth - meaning there was an ancient global advanced society, one that is denoted by the ancient monuments.

This is your birthright - your history!
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Is this where the pope got that stupid hat from?
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Sumerian ^^ and Dogon myths related to the Age of Pisces or an age of teaching.

https://imgur.com/4raWTEC


https://imgur.com/1F7uWiL

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The book of Enoch is history just before the biblical flood in 9600 BC. Considering the amount of time between us and them, nobody and everybody can claim a connection to a 11,500 years old stories.
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The book of Enoch is history just before the biblical flood in 9600 BC. Considering the amount of time between us and them, nobody and everybody can claim a connection to a 11,500 years old stories.
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Yes pre-history is interesting that way. However, that said, there is a good reason that academia mis-identifies the ages of the archaic monuments. But we are getting closer to having them get with the program.

Gobekli Tepe, Turkey is now dated to 10th millennium BCE. This region is near Harran, yes Abram's Harran in the northern levant (fertile crescent), where agricultural scientists are discovering that wild einkorn domestication stretches back prior to the dating of Gobekli Tepe.

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People have been living there forever, it's just out of Africa and a nice place to live even in the ice age.

They found pottery dated to 20,000 years ago at the Xianrendong Cave site in Jiangxi province, China. Another place to survive the ice age.
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People have been living there forever, it's just out of Africa and a nice place to live even in the ice age.

They found pottery dated to 20,000 years ago at the Xianrendong Cave site in Jiangxi province, China. Another place to survive the ice age.
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YES

but what if we were instructed of an ice age and a cyclical catastrophe
- might we create Lascaux cave??
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People have been living there forever, it's just out of Africa and a nice place to live even in the ice age.

They found pottery dated to 20,000 years ago at the Xianrendong Cave site in Jiangxi province, China. Another place to survive the ice age.
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YES

but what if we were instructed of an ice age and a cyclical catastrophe
- might we create Lascaux cave??
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*isn't that what the book of Revelation is saying???

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The book of revelation was written for primitive Christians. It was about the Juices and Christians getting rid of the Roman domination. The expiration date is way past and it was schizo rambling... no wonder, the author was crazy.

Cyclical destructions just follows nature, the ice ages cycle. Destruction when the Earth freezes and when it melts. No God required, just natural circumstances and sometime a little surprise from space. 100-125k years of freezing for 25-30 of melting, there you go, basic cycles without the crazy autistic numbers of Indian larpers.
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The book of revelation was written for primitive Christians. It was about the Juices and Christians getting rid of the Roman domination. The expiration date is way past and it was schizo rambling... no wonder, the author was crazy.

Cyclical destructions just follows nature, the ice ages cycle. Destruction when the Earth freezes and when it melts. No God required, just natural circumstances and sometime a little surprise from space. 100-125k years of freezing for 25-30 of melting, there you go, basic cycles without the crazy autistic numbers of Indian larpers.
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We don't know when the last ice age started or how long it lasted.

Earth and nature show us what is possible.

Air-bursts (Tunguska)
Volcano (Toba)
Tsunami (Japan/Indonesia)
Earthquake (Valdivia, Chile)
Tropical Cyclone (Typhoon Amy)
Asteroid (Chicxulub)

It's quite possible that the Ice Ages follow an astronomical cycle of destruction brought by a large field of asteroids setting off the aforementioned and more like...

..fire and brimstone as Earth burns and blows it's methane.

*btw it has nothing to do with Romans or Kingdoms
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We don't know when the last ice age started or how long it lasted.

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Wrong, we know in great details along with the history of our magnetic field going back millions of years. We've been in an ice ages cycle since way before early men started using fire.
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The coolest tidbit in that book is that noah was the first blue eyed white person and through him all the races came to be. Before him it was a darker skinned race comparable to egypt. This book is hated by black racist because it basically says a white man was the father of modern humans lol.
"1. And after some days my son Methuselah took a wife for his son Lamech, and she became pregnant by him and bore a son. 2. And his body was white as snow and red as the blooming of a rose, and the hair of his head †and his long locks were white as wool, and his eyes beautiful†. And when he opened his eyes, he lighted up the whole house like the sun, and the whole house was very bright."
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This book reveals the visions and documentation of a past history, present and future that is cyclical.



*take a break from all the BS and read up/watch up...it's awesome
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We don't know when the last ice age started or how long it lasted.

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Wrong, we know in great details along with the history of our magnetic field going back millions of years. We've been in an ice ages cycle since way before early men started using fire.
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Yeah in the big picture we have millions to tens of millions of years IN an ice age defined by large continental ice sheets and glaciers. And then within an ice age are multiple shorter-term periods of warmer temperatures when glaciers retreat (called interglacials or interglacial cycles) and colder temperatures when glaciers advance (called glacials or glacial cycles).

What I'm referring to (meant to say) is the last glacial period or glacial cycle. We only know it peaked about 20,000 years ago and was done about 11,000 years ago. The question I have is what started it and when?

Scientists often say continental drift but I think that's hocum.
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We don't know when the last ice age started or how long it lasted.

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Wrong, we know in great details along with the history of our magnetic field going back millions of years. We've been in an ice ages cycle since way before early men started using fire.
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Yeah in the big picture we have millions to tens of millions of years IN an ice age defined by large continental ice sheets and glaciers. And then within an ice age are multiple shorter-term periods of warmer temperatures when glaciers retreat (called interglacials or interglacial cycles) and colder temperatures when glaciers advance (called glacials or glacial cycles).

What I'm referring to (meant to say) is the last glacial period or glacial cycle. We only know it peaked about 20,000 years ago and was done about 11,000 years ago. The question I have is what started it and when?

Scientists often say continental drift but I think that's hocum.
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it started almost 100,000 years earlier... ice caps takes time to form, a very long time. We have real world data going back million of years, way past 20k. It peaked earlier but to be fair the dates change a bit depending on the continent. Just go read a few wikis for a change. We know way more about the ice ages and climate in general than you are led to believe.

try those wikis : Milankovitch cycles, Ice age, Last Glacial Maximum etc African humid period ...
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We don't know when the last ice age started or how long it lasted.

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Wrong, we know in great details along with the history of our magnetic field going back millions of years. We've been in an ice ages cycle since way before early men started using fire.
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Yeah in the big picture we have millions to tens of millions of years IN an ice age defined by large continental ice sheets and glaciers. And then within an ice age are multiple shorter-term periods of warmer temperatures when glaciers retreat (called interglacials or interglacial cycles) and colder temperatures when glaciers advance (called glacials or glacial cycles).

What I'm referring to (meant to say) is the last glacial period or glacial cycle. We only know it peaked about 20,000 years ago and was done about 11,000 years ago. The question I have is what started it and when?

Scientists often say continental drift but I think that's hocum.
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it started almost 100,000 years earlier... ice caps takes time to form, a very long time. We have real world data going back million of years, way past 20k. It peaked earlier but to be fair the dates change a bit depending on the continent. Just go read a few wikis for a change. We know way more about the ice ages and climate in general than you are led to believe.

try those wikis : Milankovitch cycles, Ice age, Last Glacial Maximum etc African humid period ...
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Looks like it may have started about 75,000 years ago. But what of the dating? Solid or off?

https://imgur.com/Yh6TUWQ

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Wrong, we know in great details along with the history of our magnetic field going back millions of years. We've been in an ice ages cycle since way before early men started using fire.
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Yeah in the big picture we have millions to tens of millions of years IN an ice age defined by large continental ice sheets and glaciers. And then within an ice age are multiple shorter-term periods of warmer temperatures when glaciers retreat (called interglacials or interglacial cycles) and colder temperatures when glaciers advance (called glacials or glacial cycles).

What I'm referring to (meant to say) is the last glacial period or glacial cycle. We only know it peaked about 20,000 years ago and was done about 11,000 years ago. The question I have is what started it and when?

Scientists often say continental drift but I think that's hocum.
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


it started almost 100,000 years earlier... ice caps takes time to form, a very long time. We have real world data going back million of years, way past 20k. It peaked earlier but to be fair the dates change a bit depending on the continent. Just go read a few wikis for a change. We know way more about the ice ages and climate in general than you are led to believe.

try those wikis : Milankovitch cycles, Ice age, Last Glacial Maximum etc African humid period ...
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Looks like it may have started about 75,000 years ago. But what of the dating? Solid or off?

https://imgur.com/Yh6TUWQ

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The funniest part is "scientists" actually think they know what happened 450,000 years ago because they looked at some rocks.
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Yeah in the big picture we have millions to tens of millions of years IN an ice age defined by large continental ice sheets and glaciers. And then within an ice age are multiple shorter-term periods of warmer temperatures when glaciers retreat (called interglacials or interglacial cycles) and colder temperatures when glaciers advance (called glacials or glacial cycles).

What I'm referring to (meant to say) is the last glacial period or glacial cycle. We only know it peaked about 20,000 years ago and was done about 11,000 years ago. The question I have is what started it and when?

Scientists often say continental drift but I think that's hocum.
 Quoting: Serpentine Green


it started almost 100,000 years earlier... ice caps takes time to form, a very long time. We have real world data going back million of years, way past 20k. It peaked earlier but to be fair the dates change a bit depending on the continent. Just go read a few wikis for a change. We know way more about the ice ages and climate in general than you are led to believe.

try those wikis : Milankovitch cycles, Ice age, Last Glacial Maximum etc African humid period ...
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Looks like it may have started about 75,000 years ago. But what of the dating? Solid or off?

https://imgur.com/Yh6TUWQ

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The funniest part is "scientists" actually think they know what happened 450,000 years ago because they looked at some rocks.
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Personally I have a problem with their RCD.
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it started almost 100,000 years earlier... ice caps takes time to form, a very long time. We have real world data going back million of years, way past 20k. It peaked earlier but to be fair the dates change a bit depending on the continent. Just go read a few wikis for a change. We know way more about the ice ages and climate in general than you are led to believe.

try those wikis : Milankovitch cycles, Ice age, Last Glacial Maximum etc African humid period ...
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Looks like it may have started about 75,000 years ago. But what of the dating? Solid or off?

https://imgur.com/Yh6TUWQ

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The funniest part is "scientists" actually think they know what happened 450,000 years ago because they looked at some rocks.
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Personally I have a problem with their RCD.
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The thing about "scientists" is if you don't agree with all the other "scientists" and buy the group think narrative and front a different theory, you lose tenure and funding and get ostracized.

They hated Velicovsky because he had way different views and was probably orders of magnitudes more correct than mainstream "science".

That is by definition the opposite of intellegence, from our "brightest" people.
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The funniest part is "scientists" actually think they know what happened 450,000 years ago because they looked at some rocks.
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again, a little bit of reading on the topic would help
climate data come from many sources
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Ice cores (from 800,000 years before present) is the one to check.

Even longer term records exist for few sites: the recent Antarctic EPICA core reaches 800 kyr; many others reach more than 100,000 years. The EPICA core covers eight glacial/interglacial cycles. The NGRIP core from Greenland stretches back more than 100 kyr, with 5 kyr in the Eemian interglacial. Whilst the large-scale signals from the cores are clear, there are problems interpreting the detail, and connecting the isotopic variation to the temperature signal.

It's not perfect resolution wise but for the big picture, it's accurate enough. Check Pleistocene climate graphs and you clearly see recurring ice ages. Looks like it's been like this for the last 2 millions years, the time we pick up the first use of fire.
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The funniest part is "scientists" actually think they know what happened 450,000 years ago because they looked at some rocks.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


again, a little bit of reading on the topic would help
climate data come from many sources
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Ice cores (from 800,000 years before present) is the one to check.

Even longer term records exist for few sites: the recent Antarctic EPICA core reaches 800 kyr; many others reach more than 100,000 years. The EPICA core covers eight glacial/interglacial cycles. The NGRIP core from Greenland stretches back more than 100 kyr, with 5 kyr in the Eemian interglacial. Whilst the large-scale signals from the cores are clear, there are problems interpreting the detail, and connecting the isotopic variation to the temperature signal.

It's not perfect resolution wise but for the big picture, it's accurate enough. Check Pleistocene climate graphs and you clearly see recurring ice ages. Looks like it's been like this for the last 2 millions years, the time we pick up the first use of fire.
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Yeah, I know, I've read it all, ice cores, tree rings, rocks.

Funnily enough these are the same "experts" pushing the fake "global warming" bullshit.

I'll take a hard pass.

"Science" is all politicized and mostly bullshit.
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I believe it was Einstein who did research into photon input relative to the depletion of our atmosphere/magnetosphere.

In other words he was saying that we can't trust modern technology to date accurately.

*may not find that in wiki
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I have a copy of the book at home which I've read.
It is a thought provoking book.
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The funniest part is "scientists" actually think they know what happened 450,000 years ago because they looked at some rocks.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


again, a little bit of reading on the topic would help
climate data come from many sources
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Ice cores (from 800,000 years before present) is the one to check.

Even longer term records exist for few sites: the recent Antarctic EPICA core reaches 800 kyr; many others reach more than 100,000 years. The EPICA core covers eight glacial/interglacial cycles. The NGRIP core from Greenland stretches back more than 100 kyr, with 5 kyr in the Eemian interglacial. Whilst the large-scale signals from the cores are clear, there are problems interpreting the detail, and connecting the isotopic variation to the temperature signal.

It's not perfect resolution wise but for the big picture, it's accurate enough. Check Pleistocene climate graphs and you clearly see recurring ice ages. Looks like it's been like this for the last 2 millions years, the time we pick up the first use of fire.
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Yeah, I know, I've read it all, ice cores, tree rings, rocks.

Funnily enough these are the same "experts" pushing the fake "global warming" bullshit.

I'll take a hard pass.

"Science" is all politicized and mostly bullshit.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Not the old climate data... they're arguing about our part in climate changes in this century but nobody is fighting the data from 10,000 years ago.
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The funniest part is "scientists" actually think they know what happened 450,000 years ago because they looked at some rocks.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


again, a little bit of reading on the topic would help
climate data come from many sources
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Ice cores (from 800,000 years before present) is the one to check.

Even longer term records exist for few sites: the recent Antarctic EPICA core reaches 800 kyr; many others reach more than 100,000 years. The EPICA core covers eight glacial/interglacial cycles. The NGRIP core from Greenland stretches back more than 100 kyr, with 5 kyr in the Eemian interglacial. Whilst the large-scale signals from the cores are clear, there are problems interpreting the detail, and connecting the isotopic variation to the temperature signal.

It's not perfect resolution wise but for the big picture, it's accurate enough. Check Pleistocene climate graphs and you clearly see recurring ice ages. Looks like it's been like this for the last 2 millions years, the time we pick up the first use of fire.
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Yeah, I know, I've read it all, ice cores, tree rings, rocks.

Funnily enough these are the same "experts" pushing the fake "global warming" bullshit.

I'll take a hard pass.

"Science" is all politicized and mostly bullshit.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Not the old climate data... they're arguing about our part in climate changes in this century but nobody is fighting the data from 10,000 years ago.
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Which is funny, because no one know that truth at all, just best guesses, and you better toe the party line or they cut your funding.

Velikovsky was much more correct, in my opinion.

Read "Worlds in collision" if I remember that correctly.
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Velikovsky was much more correct, in my opinion.

Read "Worlds in collision" if I remember that correctly.
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I was expecting that name, it's crap, like your grasp on the topic.
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Velikovsky was much more correct, in my opinion.

Read "Worlds in collision" if I remember that correctly.
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I was expecting that name, it's crap, like your grasp on the topic.
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That's you opinion.

I also have mine.

I'm not arguing about this.

"Science" is bought and paid for now and its all political.

They have very little facts and a lot of supposition.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.
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Re: Designated as Apocrypha, the book of Enoch is at least 800 years older than the Bible
The funniest part is "scientists" actually think they know what happened 450,000 years ago because they looked at some rocks.
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again, a little bit of reading on the topic would help
climate data come from many sources
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Ice cores (from 800,000 years before present) is the one to check.

Even longer term records exist for few sites: the recent Antarctic EPICA core reaches 800 kyr; many others reach more than 100,000 years. The EPICA core covers eight glacial/interglacial cycles. The NGRIP core from Greenland stretches back more than 100 kyr, with 5 kyr in the Eemian interglacial. Whilst the large-scale signals from the cores are clear, there are problems interpreting the detail, and connecting the isotopic variation to the temperature signal.

It's not perfect resolution wise but for the big picture, it's accurate enough. Check Pleistocene climate graphs and you clearly see recurring ice ages. Looks like it's been like this for the last 2 millions years, the time we pick up the first use of fire.
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Yeah, I know, I've read it all, ice cores, tree rings, rocks.

Funnily enough these are the same "experts" pushing the fake "global warming" bullshit.

I'll take a hard pass.

"Science" is all politicized and mostly bullshit.
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Not the old climate data... they're arguing about our part in climate changes in this century but nobody is fighting the data from 10,000 years ago.
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Sure but they omit the sun's influence in modeling - the true influence under a hypothesis like Dr Vogt's mini solar deluge or mini-nova theory where the sun is hyperactive or when the magnetosphere depletes.

There is a good reason why the sun is central in Egyptian mythology or why it is incorporated into Earth's greatest archaic monuments.

What we see is real in the last 100 years... just not human-caused. And there are escalations, one of which happened around the year 2000 and will continue to happen until it becomes overwhelmingly obvious imo.
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again, a little bit of reading on the topic would help
climate data come from many sources
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Ice cores (from 800,000 years before present) is the one to check.

Even longer term records exist for few sites: the recent Antarctic EPICA core reaches 800 kyr; many others reach more than 100,000 years. The EPICA core covers eight glacial/interglacial cycles. The NGRIP core from Greenland stretches back more than 100 kyr, with 5 kyr in the Eemian interglacial. Whilst the large-scale signals from the cores are clear, there are problems interpreting the detail, and connecting the isotopic variation to the temperature signal.

It's not perfect resolution wise but for the big picture, it's accurate enough. Check Pleistocene climate graphs and you clearly see recurring ice ages. Looks like it's been like this for the last 2 millions years, the time we pick up the first use of fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79643622


Yeah, I know, I've read it all, ice cores, tree rings, rocks.

Funnily enough these are the same "experts" pushing the fake "global warming" bullshit.

I'll take a hard pass.

"Science" is all politicized and mostly bullshit.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Not the old climate data... they're arguing about our part in climate changes in this century but nobody is fighting the data from 10,000 years ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79643622


Sure but they omit the sun's influence in modeling - the true influence under a hypothesis like Dr Vogt's mini solar deluge or mini-nova theory where the sun is hyperactive or when the magnetosphere depletes.

There is a good reason why the sun is central in Egyptian mythology or why it is incorporated into Earth's greatest archaic monuments.

What we see is real in the last 100 years... just not human-caused. And there are escalations, one of which happened around the year 2000 and will continue to happen until it becomes overwhelmingly obvious imo.
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And we all know carbon dating is all bullshit.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

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