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GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION

 
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God does not follow our definitions of it. Just because she (and our creator is a female), made this universe doesn’t mean she has no weaknesses. Also, your viewpoint comes from assuming she doesn’t know what she’s doing. Maybe by allowing suffering she can filter the good souls from the bad? After all, once a parasite attaches itself to a host, you must discard the infected portions.
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also - if there is an ultimate source, then it must have always existed - it could not be 'birthed' - or else that means there was something before him. So he has already had all eternity to work this problem out. So I am skeptical of the ultimate creator (I don't mean the demiurge!)- I am skeptical of his intentions. Maybe love is just a myth even going to the very heart of hearts of all reality. Maybe it is just a survival computation arising out of our need to survive
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You are confusing time with other realities and dimensions. There is no concept of time besides in our world, the physical. Our human brains have been educated with many manmade concepts that have little basis in truth. Don’t try to speak German with an Englishman. The knowledge you gained here can only translate so far to the other realms is what I’m saying.

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GRANDPA AND GRANNIE WORKED THEIR WHOLE LIVES. THEY WERE CARING CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE WHO ALWAYS OBEYED AND NEVER QUESTIONED REALITY.

THEY WERE VERY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WHO DID REGULAR BIBLE STUDY AND WENT TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY.

AFTER PHYSICAL DEATH THEY SAW IMAGES OF DEPARTED LOVED ONES AND THEY EAGERLY ENTERED THE BEAUTIFUL WHITE LIGHT.

THEY WERE THEN SHOCKED TO SEE THE AFTERLIFE LOOKED VERY SIMILAR TO THE PHYSICAL WORLD. THERE IS BARS, STORES, HOUSES AND BUILDINGS.

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If I was Grandpa and Grannie I would stick a fork in that devils ass, hit the eject button, get back to earth just to find out why my grandchild doesn't know how to turn caps lock off. Ridiculous.

goodevil
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Why, this certainly added a lot to the conversation. Thank you for your contribution.... <obvious sarcasm>
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Jennifer, your inability to apprehend my attempt to disparage his anecdote requires one to conclude you're mentally deficient. My comment incorporated what the exchange needed. My response was constructed deliberately to disparage dissolving the christian narrative which myself and others revere. I feel confident this retort will enlighten you.

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Someone to close his eyes for you,
Someone to close his heart,
Someone to die for you an’ more,
But it ain’t me, babe,
No, no, no, it ain’t me, babe
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also - if there is an ultimate source, then it must have always existed - it could not be 'birthed' - or else that means there was something before him. So he has already had all eternity to work this problem out. So I am skeptical of the ultimate creator (I don't mean the demiurge!)- I am skeptical of his intentions. Maybe love is just a myth even going to the very heart of hearts of all reality. Maybe it is just a survival computation arising out of our need to survive
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78350460


You are confusing time with other realities and dimensions. There is no concept of time besides in our world, the physical. Our human brains have been educated with many manmade concepts that have little basis in truth. Don’t try to speak German with an Englishman. The knowledge you gained here can only translate so far to the other realms is what I’m saying.
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OK, still, the creator should have been able to contact us somehow - even if only in dreams with insights to show us what to do. why does it fall to limited humans to try to navigate a way out of this? which I am skeptical is possible. we look to god and get crickets in response
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also - if there is an ultimate source, then it must have always existed - it could not be 'birthed' - or else that means there was something before him. So he has already had all eternity to work this problem out. So I am skeptical of the ultimate creator (I don't mean the demiurge!)- I am skeptical of his intentions. Maybe love is just a myth even going to the very heart of hearts of all reality. Maybe it is just a survival computation arising out of our need to survive
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78350460


You are confusing time with other realities and dimensions. There is no concept of time besides in our world, the physical. Our human brains have been educated with many manmade concepts that have little basis in truth. Don’t try to speak German with an Englishman. The knowledge you gained here can only translate so far to the other realms is what I’m saying.
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OK, still, the creator should have been able to contact us somehow - even if only in dreams with insights to show us what to do. why does it fall to limited humans to try to navigate a way out of this? which I am skeptical is possible. we look to god and get crickets in response
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78350460


We’re cut off from the source, our third eye is the key but it has been shut down with bad food, fear based media, money system, and dna manipulation. I believe the firmament is actually the earths natural defense system to quarantine each world that has been compromised so the parasite can not escape. Not all of existence is beauty and love. We have been misled into believing everything needs to be in order and catering to us but the reality is we are our own saviors. Nobody is coming to save us, if they could they would have done so already. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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ok, I can accept this is probably the case. But being cut off from source is precisely what makes me question our "actual" creator. How could "he" (for lack of a better term) - how could he let this happen? If he is the ultimate source then nothing should be "bigger" than him. i.e. there should be no problem he cannot be sovereign over and solve - or else there is something larger than himself - if only ignorance of himself. In that case, all reality at all levels is an out of control shit show and nothing is holy in any realm whatsoever
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A logical argument, and one I've considered for many years.

However, let me posit a different perspective.

Why do we kill a fly, a bee, a mosquito, or a spider with absolutely ZERO concern? Why do we consume steak, burgers, bacon, ham, chicken, and turkey, with ZERO concern for the animal?

Right or wrong, the answer is that we regard these creatures as lower forms of life. We consider ourselves vastly superior to them because we ARE vastly superior to them.

I'm not saying it's right or that it's justified. I'm simply stating facts, albeit uncomfortable facts.

In like manner, there are beings that are so vastly beyond us humans, that we are to them as an amoeba is to us. We are nothing. We are lower forms of life.

So who are WE that those superior beings should give a rat's ass about US? After all, we routinely disregard what we consider to be lower forms of life, so why should we not be regarded in like manner by those far beyond us?

Who are WE that we are deserving of better?

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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If I was Grandpa and Grannie I would stick a fork in that devils ass, hit the eject button, get back to earth just to find out why my grandchild doesn't know how to turn caps lock off. Ridiculous.

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Why, this certainly added a lot to the conversation. Thank you for your contribution.... <obvious sarcasm>
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Jennifer, your inability to apprehend my attempt to disparage his anecdote requires one to conclude you're mentally deficient. My comment incorporated what the exchange needed. My response was constructed deliberately to disparage dissolving the christian narrative which myself and others revere. I feel confident this retort will enlighten you.

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Stick your sanctimonious piety up your ass, you close-Minded jackass.

Jennifer has an expanded awareness to recognize that your Abrahamic dogmatic beliefs are Mind-imprisoning chains designed to prevent intelligent people from learning the Truth. Whereas, your small and closed Mind is so thoroughly incapable of seeing that fact, that by your own admission, you actually embrace and even "revere" your Mind imprisonment.

Your Abrahamic religious beliefs are nothing more than brainwashing. You yourself are not a Souled human. You are one of the Demiurge consciousness animated organic portals I described earlier in the thread. You are nothing but a low-level guardian of the prison farm whose sole purpose is to assist the Archonic forces to maintain the Souled humans in their Mind-imprisoning religious doctrines.

Those of us involved in this thread have graduated well beyond your Abrahamic religious lies that you so revere.

ps: you misused the word "apprehend". The correct word is "comprehend". Not only are a close-Minded pompous ass, but you're functionally illiterate as well.

Move along, NPC. You have no audience here.
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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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We’re cut off from the source, our third eye is the key but it has been shut down with bad food, fear based media, money system, and dna manipulation. I believe the firmament is actually the earths natural defense system to quarantine each world that has been compromised so the parasite can not escape. Not all of existence is beauty and love. We have been misled into believing everything needs to be in order and catering to us but the reality is we are our own saviors. Nobody is coming to save us, if they could they would have done so already. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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hesright
“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Two stars lol because people can’t tolerate questioning mainstream religion or they just got put off by the CAPS lock. I get the same response on my pole shift thread just because I say the earth is flat, which is a fact. Can’t question mainstream science either.

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EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET
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Heres a free ebook on astral travelling and the techniques on how to do it: [link to obe4u.com (secure)]
EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET to farm loosh and adrenochrome.

Read this if you want to know the truth of it all: Thread: My compilation of the ultimate truths you will ever need!!!
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also - if there is an ultimate source, then it must have always existed - it could not be 'birthed' - or else that means there was something before him. So he has already had all eternity to work this problem out. So I am skeptical of the ultimate creator (I don't mean the demiurge!)- I am skeptical of his intentions. Maybe love is just a myth even going to the very heart of hearts of all reality. Maybe it is just a survival computation arising out of our need to survive
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78350460


You are confusing time with other realities and dimensions. There is no concept of time besides in our world, the physical. Our human brains have been educated with many manmade concepts that have little basis in truth. Don’t try to speak German with an Englishman. The knowledge you gained here can only translate so far to the other realms is what I’m saying.
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OK, still, the creator should have been able to contact us somehow - even if only in dreams with insights to show us what to do. why does it fall to limited humans to try to navigate a way out of this? which I am skeptical is possible. we look to god and get crickets in response
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78350460


We’re cut off from the source, our third eye is the key but it has been shut down with bad food, fear based media, money system, and dna manipulation. I believe the firmament is actually the earths natural defense system to quarantine each world that has been compromised so the parasite can not escape. Not all of existence is beauty and love. We have been misled into believing everything needs to be in order and catering to us but the reality is we are our own saviors. Nobody is coming to save us, if they could they would have done so already. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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yes true we save ourselfs but how can you save yourself when You are forced into reincarnation and the moon bombarding us with negative frequencies? In this case, we do need help to an extant to remove the artificial control grid. This universe is evil to the core.
EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET to farm loosh and adrenochrome.

Read this if you want to know the truth of it all: Thread: My compilation of the ultimate truths you will ever need!!!
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Heres a free ebook on astral travelling and the techniques on how to do it: [link to obe4u.com (secure)]
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Outstanding, thank you!
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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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It is wonderful that you care about other people so much - that is a very good quality. I try to treat everyone with love and compassion although I do prefer to be alone most of the time, as it is exhausting to be around others for too long.

How on earth did you overcome your fears? To have such experiences in the astral must have been extremely unnerving, but it sounds like you handled it. I am excited for the book about visualization to arrive so I can get started, thank you again for the recommendation.
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HI. THANKS FOR YOUR NICE COMMENT. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING ALONE. MOST PEOPLE WILL DRAIN YOU WITH THEIR HOSTILITY, NEGATIVITY, PERVERSIONS AND DECEPTIONS. IN THIS PHYSICAL WORLD THE ANSWER IS TO AVOID THEM.

STAY AT HOME. EDUCATE AND TRAIN YOUR MIND. MAKE YOUR OWN PERSONAL POSITIVE SPACE. CREATE YOUR OWN SANCTUARY IN YOUR BEDROOM. MAKE IT PLACE OF EDUCATION, RELAXATION AND MENTAL EXPLORATION. LET THE PROGRAMMED MORONS DO THE ABSURD THINGS THEY DO OUTSIDE OF YOUR SAFE PLACE. AVOID THEM IN YOUR SAFE PERSONAL SPACE AND TRANSFORM YOUR INNER WORLD.

UNNERVING IS JUST THE BEGINNING. I HAVE BEEN THROUGH HELL. NOT ONLY AM I TRYING TO HELP PREVIOUSLY NOT KNOWN DECEASED HUMANS, I ALSO HAVE TO EXPERIENCE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO MY DECEASED FRIENDS AND RELATIVES.

THE PROGRAMMING IS STRONG IN THE AFTERLIFE. CLOSE FRIENDS CAN BECOME MIND CONTROLLED AND TURN AGAINST YOU. SOMEONE WHO WAS VERY CLOSE TO ME HAS TURNED INTO A HORRIBLE PERSON IN THE AFTERLIFE. THE EMOTIONAL PAIN CAUSED BY ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS. BUT THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE.

THE CHOICE CAN ONLY BE HELPING ALL OTHERS AND CREATING REAL FREEDOM.

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Thank you so much for your excellent ideas/suggestions, I am going to implement them. I think part of the problem for me has been that I feel so helpless and don't have a plan. But, this gives me a place to start. I also ordered the book on The Silva Method, I found one on ebay today that is from 1977 (I had read on Amazon that some of the newer editions were incomplete, I'm not sure how true that is). I'm so sorry for all the pain you've gone through and go through. My hope is that one day, from the True, Free Universe, we can all look back on this as a fading, bad dream.
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if what you say is the truth - then it seems we have to question the love and or power of our creator. What say you?
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Ahhhh, you’re starting to think now.....

The “god” as depicted by Abrahamic religions is a LIE.

Your so-called “creator” that you worship is NOT your creator. He is the Warden of this Soul prison farm that HE hijacked and took control over. He is a “benevolent slave master” as well as a “malevolent benefactor”. He is pure Darkness masquerading as Light. He is Evil clothed in Love. Your Soul was tricked/trapped and otherwise kidnapped and forced into this living Hell. You are to the Archonic forces what cattle and poultry are to humans.... nothing more than food, except the Archonic food is your low-vibrational energies that emits from you while experiencing fear, depression, anxiety, anger and hate, guilt and remorse, suffering and pain, terror and panic, and other negative emotions.

When you die from your physical body, your memory of all you have learned and gained is simply wiped and erased, and your Soul is forcibly reincarnated back into the Soul prison system we reside in.

You are nothing but “food” to them. A “battery” to energize them.

Your “loving god” is a fiction.

There is indeed a genuine “Source” beyond the Demiurge god controlling this world, but we have been cut off from that Source.

But the Archonic forces do not want you to know this horrible truth, because when you realize the awful Truth, you start planning to no longer be a part of their world, and you assist to awaken others.

Nay, your “loving and merciful god” is an evil tyrant holding all of us prisoner just as humans imprison cattle, pigs, and poultry. We may be humane to the cattle, pigs, and poultry (benevolent slave masters), but we raise them to be slaughtered as food (malevolent benefactors). In like manner, the Demiurge and his Archonic forces are doing precisely the same with humans.

As above, so below.
As below, so above.

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Have you read any of the gnostic texts from the Nag Hammadi? If so, what's your view on them? Some of them seem to make sense but again, I"m mistrustful of basically any writings, because how are we to know if they're true or not?
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GRANDPA AND GRANNIE WORKED THEIR WHOLE LIVES. THEY WERE CARING CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE WHO ALWAYS OBEYED AND NEVER QUESTIONED REALITY.

THEY WERE VERY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WHO DID REGULAR BIBLE STUDY AND WENT TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY.

AFTER PHYSICAL DEATH THEY SAW IMAGES OF DEPARTED LOVED ONES AND THEY EAGERLY ENTERED THE BEAUTIFUL WHITE LIGHT.

THEY WERE THEN SHOCKED TO SEE THE AFTERLIFE LOOKED VERY SIMILAR TO THE PHYSICAL WORLD. THERE IS BARS, STORES, HOUSES AND BUILDINGS.

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If I was Grandpa and Grannie I would stick a fork in that devils ass, hit the eject button, get back to earth just to find out why my grandchild doesn't know how to turn caps lock off. Ridiculous.

goodevil
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Why, this certainly added a lot to the conversation. Thank you for your contribution.... <obvious sarcasm>
 Quoting: Jennifer X


Jennifer, your inability to apprehend my attempt to disparage his anecdote requires one to conclude you're mentally deficient. My comment incorporated what the exchange needed. My response was constructed deliberately to disparage dissolving the christian narrative which myself and others revere. I feel confident this retort will enlighten you.

militia
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I may, in fact, be mentally deficient. I'm willing to consider all possibilities. LOL
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I may, in fact, be mentally deficient. I'm willing to consider all possibilities. LOL
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One of the most intelligent Minds in history once said:

“The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.”
-Albert Einstein


Keep questioning and searching, Jennifer.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Stick your sanctimonious piety up your ass, you close-Minded jackass.

Jennifer has an expanded awareness to recognize that your Abrahamic dogmatic beliefs are Mind-imprisoning chains designed to prevent intelligent people from learning the Truth. Whereas, your small and closed Mind is so thoroughly incapable of seeing that fact, that by your own admission, you actually embrace and even "revere" your Mind imprisonment.

Your Abrahamic religious beliefs are nothing more than brainwashing. You yourself are not a Souled human. You are one of the Demiurge consciousness animated organic portals I described earlier in the thread. You are nothing but a low-level guardian of the prison farm whose sole purpose is to assist the Archonic forces to maintain the Souled humans in their Mind-imprisoning religious doctrines.

Those of us involved in this thread have graduated well beyond your Abrahamic religious lies that you so revere.

ps: you misused the word "apprehend". The correct word is "comprehend". Not only are a close-Minded pompous ass, but you're functionally illiterate as well.

Move along, NPC. You have no audience here.
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if what you say is the truth - then it seems we have to question the love and or power of our creator. What say you?
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Ahhhh, you’re starting to think now.....

The “god” as depicted by Abrahamic religions is a LIE.

Your so-called “creator” that you worship is NOT your creator. He is the Warden of this Soul prison farm that HE hijacked and took control over. He is a “benevolent slave master” as well as a “malevolent benefactor”. He is pure Darkness masquerading as Light. He is Evil clothed in Love. Your Soul was tricked/trapped and otherwise kidnapped and forced into this living Hell. You are to the Archonic forces what cattle and poultry are to humans.... nothing more than food, except the Archonic food is your low-vibrational energies that emits from you while experiencing fear, depression, anxiety, anger and hate, guilt and remorse, suffering and pain, terror and panic, and other negative emotions.

When you die from your physical body, your memory of all you have learned and gained is simply wiped and erased, and your Soul is forcibly reincarnated back into the Soul prison system we reside in.

You are nothing but “food” to them. A “battery” to energize them.

Your “loving god” is a fiction.


There is indeed a genuine “Source” beyond the Demiurge god controlling this world, but we have been cut off from that Source.

But the Archonic forces do not want you to know this horrible truth, because when you realize the awful Truth, you start planning to no longer be a part of their world, and you assist to awaken others.

Nay, your “loving and merciful god” is an evil tyrant holding all of us prisoner just as humans imprison cattle, pigs, and poultry. We may be humane to the cattle, pigs, and poultry (benevolent slave masters), but we raise them to be slaughtered as food (malevolent benefactors). In like manner, the Demiurge and his Archonic forces are doing precisely the same with humans.

As above, so below.
As below, so above.

.
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That you may know that I, the LORD,
Who call you by your name,
Am the God of Israel.


I am the LORD, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me
.



Thus says the LORD,
The Holy One of Israel, and his Maker



Truly You are God, who hide Yourself,
O God of Israel, the Savior!



For thus says the LORD,
Who created the heavens,
Who is God,
Who formed the earth and made it,
Who has established it,
Who did not create it in vain,
Who formed it to be inhabited:
"I am the LORD, and there is no other.
I have not spoken in secret,
In a dark place of the earth;
I did not say to the seed of Jacob,
'Seek Me in vain';
I, the LORD, speak righteousness,
I declare things that are right.



Who has declared this from ancient time?
Who has told it from that time?
Have not I, the LORD?
And there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior;
There is none besides Me.


"Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other
.

I have sworn by Myself;
The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness,
And shall not return,
That to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath
.

He shall say,
'Surely in the LORD I have righteousness and strength.
To Him men shall come,
And all shall be ashamed
Who are incensed against Him
.

In the LORD all the descendants of Israel
Shall be justified, and shall glory.'


Verses excerpted from Isaiah 45
NKJV
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I may, in fact, be mentally deficient. I'm willing to consider all possibilities. LOL
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One of the most intelligent Minds in history once said:

“The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.”
-Albert Einstein


Keep questioning and searching, Jennifer.

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The hug from the AC was me sending one to you - I forgot I had logged out...!
Thank you for your kind words
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You are confusing time with other realities and dimensions. There is no concept of time besides in our world, the physical. Our human brains have been educated with many manmade concepts that have little basis in truth. Don’t try to speak German with an Englishman. The knowledge you gained here can only translate so far to the other realms is what I’m saying.
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OK, still, the creator should have been able to contact us somehow - even if only in dreams with insights to show us what to do. why does it fall to limited humans to try to navigate a way out of this? which I am skeptical is possible. we look to god and get crickets in response
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We’re cut off from the source, our third eye is the key but it has been shut down with bad food, fear based media, money system, and dna manipulation. I believe the firmament is actually the earths natural defense system to quarantine each world that has been compromised so the parasite can not escape. Not all of existence is beauty and love. We have been misled into believing everything needs to be in order and catering to us but the reality is we are our own saviors. Nobody is coming to save us, if they could they would have done so already. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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yes true we save ourselfs but how can you save yourself when You are forced into reincarnation and the moon bombarding us with negative frequencies? In this case, we do need help to an extant to remove the artificial control grid. This universe is evil to the core.
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There must be SOME laws that can't be broken, meaning if one absolutely REFUSES to reincarnate, it seems to me that that has to be honored. If one won't agree to another soul contract, it's illegal to force someone into it. At least, I hope so. If not, yeah, we're screwed.
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OP, is the pole shift the earths way of cleansing itself from these alien parasites? If I’m not mistaken, there should be another coming up, they happen every 3000 years coinciding with each astrological age.

I also sent you a message to your inbox.
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THE EARTH AND CATACLYSMS IT EXPERIENCES ARE IN THE SIMULATION AND ULTIMATELY CONTROLLED BY THE SATANIC DEMIURGE. DESTRUCTION BRINGS A HUGE FEAST OF "LOOSH ENERGY" FOR THEM TO CONSUME LIKE ADRENOCHROME.


IF THERE IS A POLE SHIFT, CARRINGTON TYPE SOLAR FLARE, OR OTHER DISASTER IT WILL BE INITIATED BY THE ARCHON HIERACHY. ON EARTH, THE SATANIC GLOBAL ELITE HAS AN INCREDIBLE WORLD OF LUXURY ALREADY BUILT DEEP UNDERGROUND. THEY WILL HEAD DOWNSTAIRS AS HUMANITY ENTERS A NIGHTMARE MAX MAD ROAD TO DESTRUCTION.

DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THOSE PRESS RELEASES ABOUT "MISTAKES" MADE BY THE GOVERNMENT WHO BOUGHT ABSOLUTELY HUGE AMOUNTS OF HAMMERS AND TOILET SEATS FOR 500 DOLLARS EACH?

THAT WAS A SCAM EASILY ACCEPTED BY THE MORONIC PUBLIC WHO ARE BUSY EATING CHOLESTEROL BURGERS AND PAINTING THEMSELVES LIKE COMPLETE IDIOTS AT SPORTING EVENTS.

IN ACTUALITY, BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WERE TAKEN FROM HUMANITY FOR THE ELITES BLACK BUDGET PROJECTS (THAT BENEFIT THEM ONLY)

NORTH AMERICA HAS A NETWORK OF DEEP UNDERGROUND BASES THAT ARE LIKE SMALL CITIES OF ADVANCED TECH AND LUXURY. THEY ARE CONNECTED BY AN UNDERGROUND HIGH SPEED RAIL SYSTEM THAT WAS PERFECTED IN 1972. A FULLY OPERATIONAL SPACE FORCE HAS LONG EXISTED AND HAS OVERTAKEN AND COLONIZED ALPHA CENTAURI.

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That you may know that I, the LORD,
Who call you by your name,
Am the God of Israel.


I am the LORD, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me
.



Thus says the LORD,
The Holy One of Israel, and his Maker



Truly You are God, who hide Yourself,
O God of Israel, the Savior!



For thus says the LORD,
Who created the heavens,
Who is God,
Who formed the earth and made it,
Who has established it,
Who did not create it in vain,
Who formed it to be inhabited:
"I am the LORD, and there is no other.
I have not spoken in secret,
In a dark place of the earth;
I did not say to the seed of Jacob,
'Seek Me in vain';
I, the LORD, speak righteousness,
I declare things that are right.



Who has declared this from ancient time?
Who has told it from that time?
Have not I, the LORD?
And there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior;
There is none besides Me.


"Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other
.

I have sworn by Myself;
The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness,
And shall not return,
That to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath
.

He shall say,
'Surely in the LORD I have righteousness and strength.
To Him men shall come,
And all shall be ashamed
Who are incensed against Him
.

In the LORD all the descendants of Israel
Shall be justified, and shall glory.'


Verses excerpted from Isaiah 45
NKJV
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79654789


Here's something to chew on, NPC, straight from your Abrahamic bible:

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

Your "god" is the Demiurge - a benevolent slavemaster, a malevolent benefactor that is a master of Darkness and pain but clothes himself in Light and Love.

He is indeed "god" of this world, I acknowledge it. But unlike you, I recognize he commands the energies of both Light and Dark, Good and Evil, using both polarities to serve his purposes.

Run along NPC. You have no audience here.

.
“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Just for argument's sake, what if there were some type of cataclysmic event which TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY destroyed the earth, beyond repair. Would we be free then?? If so, I'm rooting for one .....
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OP, is the pole shift the earths way of cleansing itself from these alien parasites? If I’m not mistaken, there should be another coming up, they happen every 3000 years coinciding with each astrological age.

I also sent you a message to your inbox.
 Quoting: CopyNinja87


THE EARTH AND CATACLYSMS IT EXPERIENCES ARE IN THE SIMULATION AND ULTIMATELY CONTROLLED BY THE SATANIC DEMIURGE. DESTRUCTION BRINGS A HUGE FEAST OF "LOOSH ENERGY" FOR THEM TO CONSUME LIKE ADRENOCHROME.


IF THERE IS A POLE SHIFT, CARRINGTON TYPE SOLAR FLARE, OR OTHER DISASTER IT WILL BE INITIATED BY THE ARCHON HIERACHY. ON EARTH, THE SATANIC GLOBAL ELITE HAS AN INCREDIBLE WORLD OF LUXURY ALREADY BUILT DEEP UNDERGROUND. THEY WILL HEAD DOWNSTAIRS AS HUMANITY ENTERS A NIGHTMARE MAX MAD ROAD TO DESTRUCTION.

DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THOSE PRESS RELEASES ABOUT "MISTAKES" MADE BY THE GOVERNMENT WHO BOUGHT ABSOLUTELY HUGE AMOUNTS OF HAMMERS AND TOILET SEATS FOR 500 DOLLARS EACH?

THAT WAS A SCAM EASILY ACCEPTED BY THE MORONIC PUBLIC WHO ARE BUSY EATING CHOLESTEROL BURGERS AND PAINTING THEMSELVES LIKE COMPLETE IDIOTS AT SPORTING EVENTS.

IN ACTUALITY, BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WERE TAKEN FROM HUMANITY FOR THE ELITES BLACK BUDGET PROJECTS (THAT BENEFIT THEM ONLY)

NORTH AMERICA HAS A NETWORK OF DEEP UNDERGROUND BASES THAT ARE LIKE SMALL CITIES OF ADVANCED TECH AND LUXURY. THEY ARE CONNECTED BY AN UNDERGROUND HIGH SPEED RAIL SYSTEM THAT WAS PERFECTED IN 1972. A FULLY OPERATIONAL SPACE FORCE HAS LONG EXISTED AND HAS OVERTAKEN AND COLONIZED ALPHA CENTAURI.

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So is Mother Earth (Gaia)/ Creator Goddess doing anything to fight this Satan threat? I thought the pole shift was like an immune response to wipe out technology and reset the world for a brand new start.

It seems the Bible is a giant psyop to trick the masses in a multitude of ways. Trick them into the light, worship the wrong deity, lead complacent lives of ignorance, influence our subconscious manifestation, and butter us up for the final slaughter. There’s actually not much truth in the Bible aside from love thy neighbor, right? The rest of it is praise for an egotistical demiurge and predictive programming for an end times loosh harvest. Scary.

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In like manner, there are beings that are so vastly beyond us humans, that we are to them as an amoeba is to us. We are nothing. We are lower forms of life.

So who are WE that those superior beings should give a rat's ass about US? After all, we routinely disregard what we consider to be lower forms of life, so why should we not be regarded in like manner by those far beyond us?

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You have no evidence of any other vastly superior beings. None whatsoever.

Fairytales those like you say..
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You are confusing time with other realities and dimensions. There is no concept of time besides in our world, the physical. Our human brains have been educated with many manmade concepts that have little basis in truth. Don’t try to speak German with an Englishman. The knowledge you gained here can only translate so far to the other realms is what I’m saying.
 Quoting: CopyNinja87


OK, still, the creator should have been able to contact us somehow - even if only in dreams with insights to show us what to do. why does it fall to limited humans to try to navigate a way out of this? which I am skeptical is possible. we look to god and get crickets in response
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78350460


We’re cut off from the source, our third eye is the key but it has been shut down with bad food, fear based media, money system, and dna manipulation. I believe the firmament is actually the earths natural defense system to quarantine each world that has been compromised so the parasite can not escape. Not all of existence is beauty and love. We have been misled into believing everything needs to be in order and catering to us but the reality is we are our own saviors. Nobody is coming to save us, if they could they would have done so already. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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yes true we save ourselfs but how can you save yourself when You are forced into reincarnation and the moon bombarding us with negative frequencies? In this case, we do need help to an extant to remove the artificial control grid. This universe is evil to the core.
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RELIGION HAS DONE ENORMOUS DAMAGE TO HUMANITY. PEOPLE GIVE THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY TO WEALTHY SLEAZEBAG "PREACHERS". THESE SAME MIND CONTROLLED SHEEP ARE QUICK TO SHOW COMPLETE SUBSERVIENCE TO THEIR FAKE GOD AND PRAISE HIS GLORY.

WHAT A RIDICULOUS JOKE. THE BIBLICAL "GOD" IS A PSYCHOTIC PARASITE WHO HAS ENSLAVED ALL OF HUMANITY. THE LOVING "ANGELS" ARE ACTUALLY SATANIC ARCHONS WHO ARE PURE EVIL.

NO SPACE BROTHERS OR SAVIOR IS COMING TO SAVE YOU. WAITING FOR THIS SALVATION TIGHTENS YOUR CHAINS.

IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP AND QUESTION THE ENTIRE WORLD AROUND YOU: LONG LOST ADVANCED CIVILIZATIONS AND TECHNOLOGY HAVE BEEN HIDDEN FROM HISTORY. HUMANS HAVE BEEN TAUGHT "LIMITATION" THEIR WHOLE LIVES.

THE ENTIRE SYSTEM FROM BIRTH TO DEATH HAS BEEN MANIPULATED TO KEEP THE TARGETED HUMAN STUPID AND CONTROLLED.

DEATH BRINGS NO REST OR ENLIGHTENMENT. ALL HUMANS ARE FORCED TO REINCARNATE BACK INTO ONGOING SLAVERY.

RELIGION AND POLTICS HAVE CONSTANTLY LIED TO YOU. THEY SEE YOU A SLAVE AND NOTHING MORE.

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So I guess the only way we can save ourselves is to enlighten others on the existence of the Demiurge? So we can all refuse to follow along his plans on the physical plane and then refuse to enter into the tunnel of light? Because there are two ways to remove a parasite: by force (killing it), which is impossible because he’s too strong and nobody is coming to help us; or persuading it to leave by withdrawing our nourishment from him. Essentially we would have to stop living in a fear based world and upon death travel far away from the light. This way the Demiurge and his archons will eventually starve because they need our negative energies to survive. Looking at the world around us, they have an appetite that requires regular maintenance, since they start wars, encourage crime/poverty, and stuff on the daily. If we just lived for a year without any destructive energies or events, a good portion of these archons would be wiped out through starvation right? And when the demiurge himself is hungry, he would eat his own archons too, effectively weakening his own army right? So I think a war of attrition or a logistical war is the only way to defeat them.
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Right or wrong, the answer is that we regard these creatures as lower forms of life. We consider ourselves vastly superior to them because we ARE vastly superior to them.

Who are WE that we are deserving of better?
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We are uniquely created in the image of God.
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Right or wrong, the answer is that we regard these creatures as lower forms of life. We consider ourselves vastly superior to them because we ARE vastly superior to them.

Who are WE that we are deserving of better?
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We are uniquely created in the image of God.
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You need to reread the whole thread. We are talking beyond the simple subject of religious mind control.





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