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GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION

 
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Did u help out Grampy and Grannie, or did you abandon them?

Did u cower in fear or horror?

Did u get fired from ur job as a counselor in the astral imagiantion?
 Quoting: Preselector


YOU HAVE NO IDEA. I WISH IT WAS IMAGINATION. SADLY THIS IS ALL REAL AND UNFORTUNATELY HAPPENING. MANY OTHERS HIGHLY TRAINED IN ASTRAL TRAVEL ARE NOW MAKING THE SAME BRUTAL DISCOVERIES.

I WORK CONSTANTLY TRYING TO HELP THE DECEASED AND SAVE THEM FROM FORCED REINCARNATION.

I AM NOT AN AFTERLIFE COUNSELOR. THEY ARE ALL DECEASED HUMANS WHO WORK FOR THE DEMONIC ARCHONS AND THE SELF DECLARED GOD OF THIS SIMULATED UNIVERSE: THE SATANIC DEMIURGE.

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There is a way to avoid forced reincarnation. One has to become enlighted while in physical body, it is important to gain knowledge of as how things work here... Religion is created by Demiurge, so being religious wont help.. In fact, it will only assist you to be fooled into yet another incarnation after you cross over. By simply understanding and seeing the reality in physical world helps a lot. Question everything, trust no one but your own intuition. Finally, saying NO to reincarnation helps a lot too, as nobody up there, no counselor of any order is capable to force anybody to come back here. They persuade rather than force. An educated person will say 'no thank you, I'll pass', but those who know nothing who really those 'counselors' are will see them as saints and wont question their authority. And, of course will agree to be pushed into yet another reincarnation. Usually the 'couselors' will make tons of promises, like what you will learn on earth, what you will get, how exciting the whole experience will be... Beware of all that, as that is only possible on lower astral and those 'holy men' are in reality devils who lie to you and cheat you. Resist the reincarnation with your whole soul and simply refuse to be send back. become a free spirit here, before you pass away, and you will find yourself in a place that you will be free too. If you cross over fearing authority of any kind, you will get into place just like that. Remember; you create your own hell, or heaven. Do not give away your spiritual power.
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GRANDPA SAID "LETS CHECK THE DIRECTORY AND LOCATE POPS, UNCLE FRED AND AUNT JUNE. THEY PASSED AWAY 50 YEARS AGO AND MUST HAVE A HOUSE WE CAN ALL STAY IN."

THEY LATER BECOME ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIED: POPS, UNCLE FRED AND AUNT JUNE ARE GONE. THEY WERE SENT BACK ALREADY. THEY HAVE BEEN REINCARNATED AS COMPLETELY NEW PEOPLE.

THE GREAT MEMORIES THEY HAD OF US NOW ERASED.

THEIR HUGS AND SMILES GONE. POPS, UNCLE FRED AND AUNT JUNE ARE GONE FOREVER.

THE DEMONIC ARCHONS MADE THEM REINCARNATE. IT IS THE DEMAND FROM THE SELF DECLARED GOD OF THIS MATRIX: THE SATANIC DEMIURGE.

THIS IS NOT THE HEAVEN WE WERE PROMISED. IT IS A CRUEL PSYCHOTIC HELL !

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When one reincarnates, this is the point when a true death occures. You do not die here, you die in astral just before you reincarnate. This is the moment also when you are born here again, with all your memory erased, with new life ahead. You remember nothing and nobody from your previous life.
Do not allow your own death to happen over and over in astral by reincarnating back here! The truth is that reincarnation is like recycling a garbage.... think about it. Yes, there reason for it is that demonic archons are extracting our energy through suffering and fear while we struggle in this physical life.
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So Jesus was a liar then, when his last words on the cross were:
"All has been paid in full"?
 Quoting: Tekunda

Beside reading from a bible, how do you know Jesus said those words? Isn't it all blind faith, not something you witness yourself or direct conversation with Jesus?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73896965


But believing in reincarnation is not blind faith, because you have proof!
OH wait, your proof is some weird stories of people who claim they were Princess of Persia and Queens of Egypt in their former lifes.
 Quoting: Tekunda


Irrelevant because

Jesus did not say “all has been paid in full”.
It’s not in the Bible nor in any other holy book that I know of.

Even if some psychic channeler has claimed that those were Jesus’ last words, there is no reason to assume life really works that way nor that a man/god sacrificing his life and claiming it absolves mankind from responsibility for how they lived their lives has any authority or power to make that happen.

“Reincarnation” so called is spirit obsession, possession, or attachment by spirits of dead people to the bodies of living people and calling themselves reincarnated, sometimes even driving out the original spirit that belongs with that body.
 Quoting: 3643297


Meaning of “It is finished” as Tetelestai

"It is finished" is the English translation of the Greek word Tetelestai, which was the last thing Jesus' said before dying on the cross. Tetelestai comes from the verb teleo, which means "to bring to an end, to complete, to accomplish." It's a crucial word because it signifies the successful end to a particular course of action. It's the word you would use when you climb to the peak of Mt. Everest; it's the word you would use when you turn in the final copy of your dissertation; it's the word you would use when you make the final payment on your new car; it's the word you use when you cross the finish line of your first 10K run. The word means more than just "I survived." It means "I did exactly what I set out to do."

(copied from [link to www.christianity.com (secure)]

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GRANDPA SAID "LETS CHECK THE DIRECTORY AND LOCATE POPS, UNCLE FRED AND AUNT JUNE. THEY PASSED AWAY 50 YEARS AGO AND MUST HAVE A HOUSE WE CAN ALL STAY IN."

THEY LATER BECOME ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIED: POPS, UNCLE FRED AND AUNT JUNE ARE GONE. THEY WERE SENT BACK ALREADY. THEY HAVE BEEN REINCARNATED AS COMPLETELY NEW PEOPLE.

THE GREAT MEMORIES THEY HAD OF US NOW ERASED.

THEIR HUGS AND SMILES GONE. POPS, UNCLE FRED AND AUNT JUNE ARE GONE FOREVER.

THE DEMONIC ARCHONS MADE THEM REINCARNATE. IT IS THE DEMAND FROM THE SELF DECLARED GOD OF THIS MATRIX: THE SATANIC DEMIURGE.

THIS IS NOT THE HEAVEN WE WERE PROMISED. IT IS A CRUEL PSYCHOTIC HELL !

scream

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 Quoting: YOU ARE IN THE MATRIX


When one reincarnates, this is the point when a true death occures. You do not die here, you die in astral just before you reincarnate. This is the moment also when you are born here again, with all your memory erased, with new life ahead. You remember nothing and nobody from your previous life.
Do not allow your own death to happen over and over in astral by reincarnating back here! The truth is that reincarnation is like recycling a garbage.... think about it. Yes, there reason for it is that demonic archons are extracting our energy through suffering and fear while we struggle in this physical life.
 Quoting: Universalman


I’d like to offer another caution. In the afterlife there are higher heavens that we can advance to and we wouldn’t necessarily go directly to the plane or dimension where Grandpa now is, but the archons can say whatever they want, ‘grandpa is reincarnated and no longer exists’. Who are we to know different unless we have studied more about the spiritual afterlife before we die.
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WE CAN NOT AFFORD TO LOSE MATRIX GUY. ANYONE HERE ABLE TO REMOTE VIEW THIS GUY? WE NEED A RV TO CONTACT THIS DUDE.
EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET to farm loosh and adrenochrome.

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His last login was late Wednesday night around midnight.

Let’s hope he’s okay.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Dang, I think the archons really did go after the OP. He’s not showing up today.

shark
 Quoting: CopyNinja87


Wish we had a remote viewer here. I've also experienced attacks from archons and Satan in particular. I've had lucid vision not long ago about Saturn taunting me. Like these are some of the hardest psychic attacks I've experienced from the satanic demiurge which means we are doing something right.
They have also tried to kill me many times before because they know I'm a threat.
 Quoting: EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET


I had a dream a few weeks ago that an invisible demon had an iron grip on my wrist and I had a very hard struggle to get free and I finally did, and I asked who told the demon to attack me and he said Abraxas. When I woke up I Googled and read that Abraxas is a gnostic name for the Demiurge. So I don't usually pay too much attention to dreams but that one stuck in my head for a while.
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His last login was late Wednesday night around midnight.

Let’s hope he’s okay.

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Any other way to contact him, maybe email?
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Did you dream this?
 Quoting: The Deplorable Truth


I AM AN EXPERT AT ASTRAL TRAVEL AND HAVE SEEN IT AND HORRIFYING SIMILAR EXPERIENCES MANY HUNDREDS OF TIMES.

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Bahawahahaha...expert bull shiter is what you meant to say
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WE CAN NOT AFFORD TO LOSE MATRIX GUY. ANYONE HERE ABLE TO REMOTE VIEW THIS GUY? WE NEED A RV TO CONTACT THIS DUDE.
 Quoting: EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET


I have never astral traveled but I just do research into this subject and have decent analytical skills. The demiurge isn’t letting this thread slide, it contains too much truth. We are discussing the veil behind the veil here.
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GRANDPA SAID "LETS CHECK THE DIRECTORY AND LOCATE POPS, UNCLE FRED AND AUNT JUNE. THEY PASSED AWAY 50 YEARS AGO AND MUST HAVE A HOUSE WE CAN ALL STAY IN."

THEY LATER BECOME ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIED: POPS, UNCLE FRED AND AUNT JUNE ARE GONE. THEY WERE SENT BACK ALREADY. THEY HAVE BEEN REINCARNATED AS COMPLETELY NEW PEOPLE.

THE GREAT MEMORIES THEY HAD OF US NOW ERASED.

THEIR HUGS AND SMILES GONE. POPS, UNCLE FRED AND AUNT JUNE ARE GONE FOREVER.

THE DEMONIC ARCHONS MADE THEM REINCARNATE. IT IS THE DEMAND FROM THE SELF DECLARED GOD OF THIS MATRIX: THE SATANIC DEMIURGE.

THIS IS NOT THE HEAVEN WE WERE PROMISED. IT IS A CRUEL PSYCHOTIC HELL !

scream

scream
 Quoting: YOU ARE IN THE MATRIX


When one reincarnates, this is the point when a true death occures. You do not die here, you die in astral just before you reincarnate. This is the moment also when you are born here again, with all your memory erased, with new life ahead. You remember nothing and nobody from your previous life.
Do not allow your own death to happen over and over in astral by reincarnating back here! The truth is that reincarnation is like recycling a garbage.... think about it. Yes, there reason for it is that demonic archons are extracting our energy through suffering and fear while we struggle in this physical life.
 Quoting: Universalman


I’d like to offer another caution. In the afterlife there are higher heavens that we can advance to and we wouldn’t necessarily go directly to the plane or dimension where Grandpa now is, but the archons can say whatever they want, ‘grandpa is reincarnated and no longer exists’. Who are we to know different unless we have studied more about the spiritual afterlife before we die.
 Quoting: 3643297


Thank you for sharing this thought - We do have to remember that the archons are expert liars.
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WE CAN NOT AFFORD TO LOSE MATRIX GUY. ANYONE HERE ABLE TO REMOTE VIEW THIS GUY? WE NEED A RV TO CONTACT THIS DUDE.
 Quoting: EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET


I have never astral traveled but I just do research into this subject and have decent analytical skills. The demiurge isn’t letting this thread slide, it contains too much truth. We are discussing the veil behind the veil here.
 Quoting: CopyNinja87


Thats why I'm surprised it hasn't been deleted. Everyone should export these threads as a pdf so this info isn't lost
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Dang, I think the archons really did go after the OP. He’s not showing up today.

shark
 Quoting: CopyNinja87


Wish we had a remote viewer here. I've also experienced attacks from archons and Satan in particular. I've had lucid vision not long ago about Saturn taunting me. Like these are some of the hardest psychic attacks I've experienced from the satanic demiurge which means we are doing something right.
They have also tried to kill me many times before because they know I'm a threat.
 Quoting: EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET


I had a dream a few weeks ago that an invisible demon had an iron grip on my wrist and I had a very hard struggle to get free and I finally did, and I asked who told the demon to attack me and he said Abraxas. When I woke up I Googled and read that Abraxas is a gnostic name for the Demiurge. So I don't usually pay too much attention to dreams but that one stuck in my head for a while.
 Quoting: Jennifer X


[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Wow cool story.
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Dang, I think the archons really did go after the OP. He’s not showing up today.

shark
 Quoting: CopyNinja87


Wish we had a remote viewer here. I've also experienced attacks from archons and Satan in particular. I've had lucid vision not long ago about Saturn taunting me. Like these are some of the hardest psychic attacks I've experienced from the satanic demiurge which means we are doing something right.
They have also tried to kill me many times before because they know I'm a threat.
 Quoting: EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET


I had a dream a few weeks ago that an invisible demon had an iron grip on my wrist and I had a very hard struggle to get free and I finally did, and I asked who told the demon to attack me and he said Abraxas. When I woke up I Googled and read that Abraxas is a gnostic name for the Demiurge. So I don't usually pay too much attention to dreams but that one stuck in my head for a while.
 Quoting: Jennifer X


[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Wow cool story.
 Quoting: CopyNinja87


It actually kind of bummed me out because I didn't know if it meant anything, I don't put too much stock in dream interpretation. Maybe I just think about all this stuff too much so it's only natural to dream about it.
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His last login was late Wednesday night around midnight.

Let’s hope he’s okay.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Any other way to contact him, maybe email?
 Quoting: Jennifer X


Like most of us, his email is not public.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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His last login was late Wednesday night around midnight.

Let’s hope he’s okay.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Any other way to contact him, maybe email?
 Quoting: Jennifer X


Like most of us, his email is not public.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Understandable. I hope he is alright, maybe just preoccupied with other things.
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I have no idea what anyone here is talking about. But very interesting and I have an open mind. So I have a question.

I don’t meditate often. But one time I did and visions of pyramids, an Egyptian eye, vivid floating colors, and then a tunnel with a white light.
What is the meaning of this if there even is one?
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I have no idea what anyone here is talking about. But very interesting and I have an open mind. So I have a question.

I don’t meditate often. But one time I did and visions of pyramids, an Egyptian eye, vivid floating colors, and then a tunnel with a white light.
What is the meaning of this if there even is one?
 Quoting: Sam_I-Am


The thread has become very long, but if you take the time to carefully read through it, post by post, it will all become clear.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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I have no idea what anyone here is talking about. But very interesting and I have an open mind. So I have a question.

I don’t meditate often. But one time I did and visions of pyramids, an Egyptian eye, vivid floating colors, and then a tunnel with a white light.
What is the meaning of this if there even is one?
 Quoting: Sam_I-Am


The thread has become very long, but if you take the time to carefully read through it, post by post, it will all become clear.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Ahh yes. I read through a few pages and stopped. Saving for later. Any other threads you recommend? Thank you.
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I have no idea what anyone here is talking about. But very interesting and I have an open mind. So I have a question.

I don’t meditate often. But one time I did and visions of pyramids, an Egyptian eye, vivid floating colors, and then a tunnel with a white light.
What is the meaning of this if there even is one?
 Quoting: Sam_I-Am


It’s the image on the back of a dollar bill.

[link to weirdnews.info (secure)]
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I have no idea what anyone here is talking about. But very interesting and I have an open mind. So I have a question.

I don’t meditate often. But one time I did and visions of pyramids, an Egyptian eye, vivid floating colors, and then a tunnel with a white light.
What is the meaning of this if there even is one?
 Quoting: Sam_I-Am


The thread has become very long, but if you take the time to carefully read through it, post by post, it will all become clear.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Ahh yes. I read through a few pages and stopped. Saving for later. Any other threads you recommend? Thank you.
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I know you’re not asking me, but this is one of my favorite threads here.

Thread: Stay safe during the vampire apocalypse
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I'm sorry but this is totally not Biblical. As the Word of God says, to be absent from the body is to be present with The Lord.
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I'm sorry but this is totally not Biblical. As the Word of God says, to be absent from the body is to be present with The Lord.
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So what the hell is the point of trying to live an honest and decent life only to get screwed over in the end? Don't go into the light, end up a ghost? Go into the light, get memory wiped, and start over? Those are the only real viable options? How bad can the ghost life be?
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LOL! My thoughts exactly! I'd rather be a ghost in the etheric realms, retaining my memory and knowledge I have learned, searching for a way out of the prison, rather than to be "factory reset" and recycled back into this shit hole Soul prison farm.
 Quoting: Zovalex
Assuming we choose to become ghosts by failing to escape the grid, what do we do for what is essentially a very long time?

Can we create our own realities and immerse ourselves in them in the ghost state?

Tom Campbell, another OOBE researcher and physicist writes in his book, My Big TOE: You can project your sentience into any of these states and simply look around. Or you can follow a sequence of connected states that produces an effect that is like following a movie frame by frame. Run the frames by fast enough and the action seems realistic — an experience — exactly like being there. Because all possible choices are available, you can theoretically make the story line run any way you want to, but it is much more useful to follow variations of your personal choices and let all the other virtual players make only their most probable moves given the new conditions. By carefully using your focused intent, you can design and create almost any query-filter you can imagine, apply it to this database, and experience the results. The experienced end product is exactly like being there.

Imagine a 3D holographic movie where you control the conditions or filter-sets that define the possibilities and probabilities of the action. Lack of specificity adds random or nominal components to the filter definitions intended. If you do not know enough to define and control the process precisely, the results appear to be jumbled and have a mind of their own. In any case, your experience of this data (filtered by your clear or jumbled intent) appears as if you are viewing, and participating in, a reality populated by fully sentient beings with free will. That it is a simulation — a calculation space populated only by probability models of actual beings with free will — would be transparent and thus unnoticeable. Simulated or emulated digital consciousness does not seem artificial to an individuated digital consciousness with free will.


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So what the hell is the point of trying to live an honest and decent life only to get screwed over in the end? Don't go into the light, end up a ghost? Go into the light, get memory wiped, and start over? Those are the only real viable options? How bad can the ghost life be?
 Quoting: JohnnyMullet
LOL! My thoughts exactly! I'd rather be a ghost in the etheric realms, retaining my memory and knowledge I have learned, searching for a way out of the prison, rather than to be "factory reset" and recycled back into this shit hole Soul prison farm.
 Quoting: Zovalex
Assuming we choose to become ghosts by failing to escape the grid, what do we do for what is essentially a very long time?

Can we create our own realities and immerse ourselves in them in the ghost state?

Tom Campbell, another OOBE researcher and physicist writes in his book, My Big TOE: You can project your sentience into any of these states and simply look around. Or you can follow a sequence of connected states that produces an effect that is like following a movie frame by frame. Run the frames by fast enough and the action seems realistic — an experience — exactly like being there. Because all possible choices are available, you can theoretically make the story line run any way you want to, but it is much more useful to follow variations of your personal choices and let all the other virtual players make only their most probable moves given the new conditions. By carefully using your focused intent, you can design and create almost any query-filter you can imagine, apply it to this database, and experience the results. The experienced end product is exactly like being there.

Imagine a 3D holographic movie where you control the conditions or filter-sets that define the possibilities and probabilities of the action. Lack of specificity adds random or nominal components to the filter definitions intended. If you do not know enough to define and control the process precisely, the results appear to be jumbled and have a mind of their own. In any case, your experience of this data (filtered by your clear or jumbled intent) appears as if you are viewing, and participating in, a reality populated by fully sentient beings with free will. That it is a simulation — a calculation space populated only by probability models of actual beings with free will — would be transparent and thus unnoticeable. Simulated or emulated digital consciousness does not seem artificial to an individuated digital consciousness with free will.

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The topic of ghosts is very interesting. I think ghosts reside in a realm outside of physical and astral. Like a limbo in between the two. They go revisit their old lives and cling to old habits. I remember back in the 80s and 90s there were a lot of movies about ghosts, such as Ghost, Ghostbusters, Casper, Beetlejuice. But now the focus is more on demons, vampires, zombies. It’s like ghosts got pushed aside to draw less attention.
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Again why did the original source of all allow this to happen? No one anywhere has that actual answer. That is the real question. Things are not what they seem.... to anyone.
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Well, actually some may know the answer to your question. In a nutshell, it's because of the original sin of the human beings, which is the very ancient rebellions against God long long time ago of the (now physical) human beings, as angels back then, on other spiritual worlds, in a different dimension than this physical one.

After these rebellions happened, the beings (back then as angels) were forewarned about the terrible consequences they would suffer and asked to repent and accept God's punishment, but that didn't happen, so God decided to expel them (us) from those spiritual worlds and punish them in these harsh physical universes for a very long time.

The basic of all basics of these physical universes is the huge guilt that humans have, which gets carried on on each cycle of the reincarnations, until God decides that enough is enough.

There's some actual truth to the 1667 poem "Paradise Lost" by John Milton, which specifically talks about the luciferian rebellion.

P.S. If you (or any other) have questions, feel free to ask. I'll try my best.
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Again why did the original source of all allow this to happen? No one anywhere has that actual answer. That is the real question. Things are not what they seem.... to anyone.
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Well, actually some may know the answer to your question. In a nutshell, it's because of the original sin of the human beings, which is the very ancient rebellions against God long long time ago of the (now physical) human beings, as angels back then, on other spiritual worlds, in a different dimension than this physical one.

After these rebellions happened, the beings (back then as angels) were forewarned about the terrible consequences they would suffer and asked to repent and accept God's punishment, but that didn't happen, so God decided to expel them (us) from those spiritual worlds and punish them in these harsh physical universes for a very long time.

The basic of all basics of these physical universes is the huge guilt that humans have, which gets carried on on each cycle of the reincarnations, until God decides that enough is enough.

There's some actual truth to the 1667 poem "Paradise Lost" by John Milton, which specifically talks about the luciferian rebellion.

P.S. If you (or any other) have questions, feel free to ask. I'll try my best.
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It sounds too much like Christianity. I loathe it! It is a disempowering fear based religion. Where in The Bible did Jesus Christ say "build a church and worship Me as a god". NOWHERE! All else is bollocks and fear mongering to the masses, like COVID-19: a flu by any other name.

If you can quote Jesus Christ for me on the above matter, I shall follow religiously. So let it be written, so let it be done.

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Books on Life After Death

Most of these books are channeled - in other words they are the words of someone who is “dead” delivered by a medium who is obviously a living mortal. There are however a few exceptions - “When Ghosts Speak” by Mary Ann Winkowski which is about her experiences with ghosts, and “My Travels in the Spirit World” by Caroline Larsen which was achieved in an out of body state by the author. J.S.M Ward also traveled out of body, but in his case, that enabled him to obtain the information from other spirits who were tasked with telling their stories.

[link to new-birth.net (secure)]
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It sounds too much like Christianity. I loathe it! It is a disempowering fear based religion. Where in The Bible did Jesus Christ say "build a church and worship Me as a god". NOWHERE! All else is bollocks and fear mongering to the masses, like COVID-19: a flu by any other name.

If you can quote Jesus Christ for me on the above matter, I shall follow religiously. So let it be written, so let it be done.
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I don't know how/why you brought up Christianity into what I said. What I said above has no relation whatsoever with it, it has more to do with the guilt that all people of this Earth have vs God, the God of ancient Israel.

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Did u help out Grampy and Grannie, or did you abandon them?

Did u cower in fear or horror?

Did u get fired from ur job as a counselor in the astral imagiantion?
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YOU HAVE NO IDEA. I WISH IT WAS IMAGINATION. SADLY THIS IS ALL REAL AND UNFORTUNATELY HAPPENING. MANY OTHERS HIGHLY TRAINED IN ASTRAL TRAVEL ARE NOW MAKING THE SAME BRUTAL DISCOVERIES.

I WORK CONSTANTLY TRYING TO HELP THE DECEASED AND SAVE THEM FROM FORCED REINCARNATION.

I AM NOT AN AFTERLIFE COUNSELOR. THEY ARE ALL DECEASED HUMANS WHO WORK FOR THE DEMONIC ARCHONS AND THE SELF DECLARED GOD OF THIS SIMULATED UNIVERSE: THE SATANIC DEMIURGE.

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