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GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION

 
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This blog explains why it's not a good idea to call them archons. We should refer to them as astral parasites.
EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET to farm loosh and adrenochrome.

Read this if you want to know the truth of it all: Thread: My compilation of proof that we live in the evil matrix!!!

Dark bastard exposes the farm here: Thread: The FaRm.......
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You know what I realized about people in general? The most common personality trait they desire in other people is kindness. But they often lack this same trait. Talk about hypocrisy.

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OP (and others) how many "alien" races do the astral parasites own/control and if one should escape their soul recycling scheme is there a physical or astral safe planet/dimension that one might escape to?
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One thing you can do OP is to revoke any "soul contracts" that you were tricked into agreeing. Just google soul contracts and that will get you started on different contractual concepts to revoke and remove yourself from.
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Great answer, saw that explained in some detail down the thread - accepted.

The torts of the soul, yeah?
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I end my participation in this thread with the following considerations:

1 - OP says that he experiences the astral plane, it is a subjective experience and we have to believe him to believe that these experiences are true. What if everything is just lucid dreams and illusions created by his own mind? The argument that the experiences are very "real" does not make much sense, as schizophrenics report that their experiences are extremely real (Sorry OP, I do not mean that you are schizophrenic). Furthermore, OP says he uses drugs like Galantamine, which complicates things further, as it increases the possibility that all of this is a big fantasy well constructed by his mind. I have always been a person of fertile imagination, I have had lucid dreams since I was a teenager and I can testify that our minds can build absurdly complex things, like movie scripts, but that are false, have no reality.

2 - If in fact the Archons have the power to deceive human souls to the extent that has been reported, then it is useless to fight against them, they have superior intelligence and technology and to fight would be the same as cows and chickens revolting against humans for being used as food, chickens can do nothing against humans, I think this is very significant.

3 - I never saw, either in literature or in reports, the things that the OP reports, he seems to be the first and only one to discover a sophisticated system of enslavement of human souls, which makes me suspicious, after all, there are more than 7 billion live humans and many other billions that lived in this world, did the OP alone wake up? He thinks he's Neo, no, he's not.

4 - Some people report having been tortured by the Archons, which contradicts the central idea that they use pleasure and well-being to convince human souls to do what they want, as reported in NDEs. If they have the power to provide this great welfare, there is no reason to torture and generate the revolt that would turn against them in the future. Inconsistent.

5 - Reincarnation is an inconsistent concept, since, for it to actually exist, it would be necessary for the person who reincarnates to preserve their memories. If Archons has the power to erase a person's memories, that means killing souls, because once a person's memories are erased, he dies, even if there is something left of him that can be used, from the point of view of consciousness, he dies, because there is no soul if there is no memory, as a certain thinker said: I am the sum of my memories. What would happen then in this process proposed by OP is an annihilation of the soul and the use of its energy to generate another soul, something very confusing and strange.

6 - If what OP says is true, he was forced to reincarnate (whatever that means) when he died the last time. It must not have been the first, since anyone who believes in this reincarnation thing believes that he has reincarnated many, many times. Why, just this time, did he "wake up" and realize he was a slave? Is it because today we have Internet, cinema and science fiction literature that encourages people to create fantasies? It's very likely. A 19th century person never wrote anything like that, it says a lot.

7 - The Archons have no moral sense or goodness, and, if in fact they rule the Universe, together with the Demiurge, such a universe is nothing more than a hell where there would be no sense to exist, and a fight for "freedom" in a universe of this type would mean nothing.

8 - OP said the Archons enslave human souls based on "soul contracts" that need to be broken. This also doesn't make sense, again I use the example of chickens and cows, I don't need them to sign contracts to use them as food, I just have the power to dominate them and that's it. Contracts? No OP, it doesn't make any sense.

Finally, I say that all that OP reports is fantasy, since there is no ontological basis for verifying the reality of these facts other than the his narrative. If I depend on a single person's narrative to believe in something, I won't believe it, it doesn't make sense. Either the OP brings to the situation concrete evidence that what he says is true, or he cannot sustain his narrative as anything more than a science fiction fantasy, one of rather bad taste, I must say, I have known better fictions throughout life.

Fantasies, that's all I can say about it all. Greetings to you all. Bye.
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I end my participation in this thread with the following considerations:

1 - OP says that he experiences the astral plane, it is a subjective experience and we have to believe him to believe that these experiences are true. What if everything is just lucid dreams and illusions created by his own mind? The argument that the experiences are very "real" does not make much sense, as schizophrenics report that their experiences are extremely real (Sorry OP, I do not mean that you are schizophrenic). Furthermore, OP says he uses drugs like Galantamine, which complicates things further, as it increases the possibility that all of this is a big fantasy well constructed by his mind. I have always been a person of fertile imagination, I have had lucid dreams since I was a teenager and I can testify that our minds can build absurdly complex things, like movie scripts, but that are false, have no reality.

2 - If in fact the Archons have the power to deceive human souls to the extent that has been reported, then it is useless to fight against them, they have superior intelligence and technology and to fight would be the same as cows and chickens revolting against humans for being used as food, chickens can do nothing against humans, I think this is very significant.

3 - I never saw, either in literature or in reports, the things that the OP reports, he seems to be the first and only one to discover a sophisticated system of enslavement of human souls, which makes me suspicious, after all, there are more than 7 billion live humans and many other billions that lived in this world, did the OP alone wake up? He thinks he's Neo, no, he's not.

4 - Some people report having been tortured by the Archons, which contradicts the central idea that they use pleasure and well-being to convince human souls to do what they want, as reported in NDEs. If they have the power to provide this great welfare, there is no reason to torture and generate the revolt that would turn against them in the future. Inconsistent.

5 - Reincarnation is an inconsistent concept, since, for it to actually exist, it would be necessary for the person who reincarnates to preserve their memories. If Archons has the power to erase a person's memories, that means killing souls, because once a person's memories are erased, he dies, even if there is something left of him that can be used, from the point of view of consciousness, he dies, because there is no soul if there is no memory, as a certain thinker said: I am the sum of my memories. What would happen then in this process proposed by OP is an annihilation of the soul and the use of its energy to generate another soul, something very confusing and strange.

6 - If what OP says is true, he was forced to reincarnate (whatever that means) when he died the last time. It must not have been the first, since anyone who believes in this reincarnation thing believes that he has reincarnated many, many times. Why, just this time, did he "wake up" and realize he was a slave? Is it because today we have Internet, cinema and science fiction literature that encourages people to create fantasies? It's very likely. A 19th century person never wrote anything like that, it says a lot.

7 - The Archons have no moral sense or goodness, and, if in fact they rule the Universe, together with the Demiurge, such a universe is nothing more than a hell where there would be no sense to exist, and a fight for "freedom" in a universe of this type would mean nothing.

8 - OP said the Archons enslave human souls based on "soul contracts" that need to be broken. This also doesn't make sense, again I use the example of chickens and cows, I don't need them to sign contracts to use them as food, I just have the power to dominate them and that's it. Contracts? No OP, it doesn't make any sense.

Finally, I say that all that OP reports is fantasy, since there is no ontological basis for verifying the reality of these facts other than the his narrative. If I depend on a single person's narrative to believe in something, I won't believe it, it doesn't make sense. Either the OP brings to the situation concrete evidence that what he says is true, or he cannot sustain his narrative as anything more than a science fiction fantasy, one of rather bad taste, I must say, I have known better fictions throughout life.

Fantasies, that's all I can say about it all. Greetings to you all. Bye.
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1)GALANTAMINE IS NOT A DRUG. IT IS A VITAMIN SUPPLEMENT AND IS REGULARLY USED BY THE ELDERLY TO STRENGTHEN THE MIND AND AVOID ALZHEIMERS. IT IS ALSO WORTH NOTING I USE GALANTAMINE ONLY TWICE A MONTH. MOST OF MY EXPERIENCES HAVE BEEN WITHOUT IT.

2)HUMANS HAVE INCREDIBLE POWERS BUT HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THEM AND HAVE ALSO BEEN MIND CONTROLLED FOR CENTURIES TO ACCEPT THEIR "LIMITATIONS". IT IS THEW TRUE NATURE OF HUMANS TO BE "ETERNAL CREATORS WHO KNOW NO LIMITATIONS". I HAVE FELT THE "FORCE" AND I KNOW IT IS REAL.

3)THE GNOSTICS AND RENE DESCARTES FIGURED THIS OUT LONG AGO. IN RECENT TIMES RESEARCHERS SUCH AS WES PENRE, AUG TELLEZ, RON MONTALK AND CAMERON DAY HAVE DONE IN DEPTH DETAILED WRITINGS AND VIDEOS ON THE SUBJECT. THERE ARE MANY OTHERS AS WELL.

4) I HAVE DISCUSSED THE "NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE" MANY TIMES AND CLEARLY EXPLAINED IT IS A SCAM USED FOR ADVERTISING ENTRANCE IN TO THE WHITE LIGHT TUNNEL.

5)THE ARCHONS HAVE ADVANCED TECH USED TO ERASE MEMORIES. THEY HAVE BEEN SEEN USING THIS TECH ON DECEASED HUMANS BY MANY PEOPLE DURING ASTRAL TRAVEL.

6)I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT I REINCARNATED OR HAD A PREVIOUS LIFE ON THIS PLANET.

7)ANYTHING CAN BE TRANSFORMED. IT WILL BE DONE.

8)THE ANIMALS YOU REFER TO ARE NON SOULED NPC.

IT IS INTERESTING YOU LABEL MY EXPERIENCES AS "FANTASY" WHEN YOU HAVE EMPHATICALLY PROFESSED BELIEF FOR A SAVIOR KNOWN AS "JESUS CHRIST" THAT YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN AND ACTUALLY DOES NOT EXIST.


I FEEL BAD FOR PEOPLE SUCH AS YOURSELF. YOUR OBJECTIVE, LIKE ALL THOSE RELIGIOUSLY MIND CONTROLLED, IS TO SEEK VALIDATION OF YOUR BELIEFS IN A NON EXISTENT SAVIOR.

GOOD LUCK ON YOUR JOURNEYS. ALL I ASK IS YOU PLEASE REMEMBER THIS CONVERSATION AFTER PHYSICAL DEATH. UNFORTUNATELY YOU WILL BE SADLY UNPREPARED FOR WHAT IS TO BE EXPERIENCED.

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Good point. Mine is usually self doubt and loneliness.
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This surprises me.

Your posts indicate a man of deep thought, reason, imagination, and logic, all of which usually engender self confidence, not self doubt.

If anything, you give others reason to have confidence in you.

I’ve owned and managed businesses, and I’ve been through probably 1,500 employees over many years. Many I promoted into supervisors and managers. You would definitely be among my choices for having the ability to manage people.

Give yourself more credit, friend. You are better than you seem to realize.

I submit someone, or some event, caused you to feel as you do, but if it applied at one time, I would say you overcame it long ago.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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Good point. Mine is usually self doubt and loneliness.
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This surprises me.

Your posts indicate a man of deep thought, reason, imagination, and logic, all of which usually engender self confidence, not self doubt.

If anything, you give others reason to have confidence in you.

I’ve owned and managed businesses, and I’ve been through probably 1,500 employees over many years. Many I promoted into supervisors and managers. You would definitely be among my choices for having the ability to manage people.

Give yourself more credit, friend. You are better than you seem to realize.

I submit someone, or some event, caused you to feel as you do, but if it applied at one time, I would say you overcame it long ago.

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Thanks for your kind words Zova. I appreciate it.
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6)I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT I REINCARNATED OR HAD A PREVIOUS LIFE ON THIS PLANET.

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Showstopper!!

Okay, OP....

Considering all we have contributed to this thread and the time invested, I think you owe us an explanation.

So who or what are you? Where do you hail from? Why are you here?

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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6)I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT I REINCARNATED OR HAD A PREVIOUS LIFE ON THIS PLANET.

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Showstopper!!

Okay, OP....

Considering all we have contributed to this thread and the time invested, I think you owe us an explanation.

So who or what are you? Where do you hail from? Why are you here?

.
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Nice catch, I didn’t notice because the brazil guy wrote so much just to say bye. I was like if you wanna go then go dude
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6)I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT I REINCARNATED OR HAD A PREVIOUS LIFE ON THIS PLANET.

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Showstopper!!

Okay, OP....

Considering all we have contributed to this thread and the time invested, I think you owe us an explanation.

So who or what are you? Where do you hail from? Why are you here?

.
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I was going to ask the same question!
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6)I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT I REINCARNATED OR HAD A PREVIOUS LIFE ON THIS PLANET.

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Showstopper!!

Okay, OP....

Considering all we have contributed to this thread and the time invested, I think you owe us an explanation.

So who or what are you? Where do you hail from? Why are you here?

.
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Nice catch, I didn’t notice because the brazil guy wrote so much just to say bye. I was like if you wanna go then go dude
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I'm the guy from Brazil, I was really leaving because I thought there would be no more interesting information. But with this statement by the OP, things got a lot more interesting. He claims that he did not reincarnate or live on this planet before, it is quite an affirmation, I will stay to see what he says.
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Is your keyboard Caps Lock still stuck on the astral plane? Or did it free itself?
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Let’s be realistic. You can’t just blow up the moon. And if we could, you wouldn’t be the one capable of doing it due to legal, financial, and technical reasons. Even though I do agree the moon is evil soul trapping technology.
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Exactly, completely pretentious. There is no way to beat beings who have the knowledge to place an artificial satellite in space the size of the moon, imagine the weapons they must have, the technological artifacts, compared to them, we are nothing more than cavemen, natural that we are slaves, and we will be forever, unfortunately, if that is true, but I don't believe it.
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It is not pretentious at all. We have the technology to nuke the crater the spire/soul catcher is located in, not the whole moon! One relatively rich individual could do it. I wouldn't expect the reptilian/archon controlled governments to do it. The element of surprise is with us. Our history is rife with examples of victories where the odds are decidedly against the winner.

I'm surprised at your defeatist attitudes.
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Talk is cheap let us know when you’ve persuaded a billionaire to do that. It’s like me saying I could be a heart surgeon or navy seal it only takes 8 years of grad school or a ton of breakneck training. In theory and in practice are two very different things.
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A defeatist and insulting attitude right there. What Greek says is highly plausible and people do study for 8 years, even more to achieve their goals. Interesting that KABOOM THE MOONS was Greek too. His blog is quite enlightening.
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Beware remote controlled zombies.
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Always admired Holdsworth. Insane ability and the way he stretches his fingers across that fretboard!? Amazing.
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This blog explains why it's not a good idea to call them archons. We should refer to them as astral parasites.
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Oh Cameron Day? It's been a couple years but I recall. That's where I got the idea of revoking Soul Contracts that I posted in this thread earlier. Turds of Karma is what he suggested calling them lol.
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6)I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT I REINCARNATED OR HAD A PREVIOUS LIFE ON THIS PLANET.

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Showstopper!!

Okay, OP....

Considering all we have contributed to this thread and the time invested, I think you owe us an explanation.

So who or what are you? Where do you hail from? Why are you here?

.
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Nice catch, I didn’t notice because the brazil guy wrote so much just to say bye. I was like if you wanna go then go dude
 Quoting: CopyNinja87


I'm the guy from Brazil, I was really leaving because I thought there would be no more interesting information. But with this statement by the OP, things got a lot more interesting. He claims that he did not reincarnate or live on this planet before, it is quite an affirmation, I will stay to see what he says.
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I want to make clear that I have NOT changed my position that we are Souls trapped in a loosh-energy prison farm reincarnation cycle. This isn’t some idea I adhere to because some guy on GLP posted about it (there are several sources all saying the same thing).

The reincarnation cycle is a fundamental tenet of Buddhism. I have studied Christianity, Jud*ism, Hermeticism, Gnosticism, Buddhism, and various New Age metaphysical teachings and schools of thought.

ALL of them contain what I call “elements of Truth”, yet all claim to have Absolute Truth. As time went on, all these bits and pieces of Truth taken together along with my ongoing life experiences (a major part of the puzzle), the broader picture began to crystallize for me, and the awful, horrible, ugly Truth of our reality slowly became clearer. I didn’t buy it at first, because the Mind simply recoils at the horror of it. But as I read of others validating the ideas, and the more I applied those ideas against all I see occurring in the world, all I’ve experienced during my life to the present moment, the more it “fit”. The more it solved many unanswered questions. The more it made sense.

But I’ve always had the ability to easily see both sides of an issue, and so I also considered counter-arguments.

In the end, my personal analysis is that we ARE in fact trapped in a forced/coerced reincarnation cycle into a loosh energy prison farm.

The astral travel component is new to me and I am actively researching it. In fact, I will readily admit I am skeptical of anyone’s claims of astral traveling, including the OP. Let’s be honest.... his claims are certainly far fetched and seem more like ordinary dreams to me. But that’s just my opinion that I admit is NOT based on experience or years of research. I give credence to BOTH sides of an argument until such time that I have enough experience and/or education on the matter that I can make a judgment call I am confident in. So for now, on the matter of astral travel, I will simply withhold from deciding if I buy into it or not, pending further study and actual experience.

Whereas, YOUR lengthy post was clearly an attempt to discredit this thread. The fact CopyNinja and I didn’t respond to you was NOT because you posted arguments we could not overcome. We could have done so quite easily. However, he and I addressed that very issue earlier in the thread on Page 15. In fact, I combined his and my response into one for future use.

I am herewith reposting it for your review:

We didn’t reach our conclusions on the flip of a switch. What you don't realize is that many of us have already studied Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Jud*ism, Taoism, Hermeticism, New Age and assorted metaphysical beliefs. We actually researched those belief systems and philosophies, we carefully considered and thought deeply about what we read, even believing as you do now. But we didn't stop there. As we furthered our research and studies and increased our Awareness and Understanding, we came to realize we were mistaken in those beliefs, so we made a decision to reject them.

Whereas, you have learned of ONE belief system and you have clung to its tenets, falsely assuming the rest of us have not already considered (and subsequently rejected) those schools of thought.

When we debate your beliefs, your Ego propels you forward, demanding that WE address every single conviction that you hold dear. It’s stupid. And then if we stop answering you, you exclaim, “Look! We got you! You're unable to respond!”

No. That's a false assumption. The final truth is that we're just DONE wasting valuable time and energy on you.



Now then...

With all due respect to you, sir... your post did not strike me as a typical troll post. Yes, you intentionally attempted to discredit the thread, but at least you did so in a civilized manner, so I simply elected to ignore it.

In fact, when OP replied to it, I thought to myself, “WHY is he wasting time and energy even replying?”

But then this came out:

6) I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT I REINCARNATED OR HAD A PREVIOUS LIFE ON THIS PLANET.

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....

That statement certainly put my seatback in the straight, upright position.

I am certain OP has a perfectly logical and valid answer. The mere fact he stated the above is NOT an invalidation of all he’s posted. Not at all. I have already formulated 2 possible (and very reasonable) explanations, but I want to hear OP’s explanation without any suggestions from me.

But I concede you ARE correct that things just got a LOT more interesting!

So let’s sit with one another here in the front row seat of the grandstand and see what OP has to say.

I’ll even share my popcorn.

popcorn
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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Did u help out Grampy and Grannie, or did you abandon them?

Did u cower in fear or horror?

Did u get fired from ur job as a counselor in the astral imagiantion?
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YOU HAVE NO IDEA. I WISH IT WAS IMAGINATION. SADLY THIS IS ALL REAL AND UNFORTUNATELY HAPPENING. MANY OTHERS HIGHLY TRAINED IN ASTRAL TRAVEL ARE NOW MAKING THE SAME BRUTAL DISCOVERIES.

I WORK CONSTANTLY TRYING TO HELP THE DECEASED AND SAVE THEM FROM FORCED REINCARNATION.

I AM NOT AN AFTERLIFE COUNSELOR. THEY ARE ALL DECEASED HUMANS WHO WORK FOR THE DEMONIC ARCHONS AND THE SELF DECLARED GOD OF THIS SIMULATED UNIVERSE: THE SATANIC DEMIURGE.

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Nah, I Astral travel,I was in the universe a universal being surrounded by other travelers all at peace, a sense of connectedness and a knowing of everything
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I end my participation in this thread with the following considerations:

1 - OP says that he experiences the astral plane, it is a subjective experience and we have to believe him to believe that these experiences are true. What if everything is just lucid dreams and illusions created by his own mind? The argument that the experiences are very "real" does not make much sense, as schizophrenics report that their experiences are extremely real (Sorry OP, I do not mean that you are schizophrenic). Furthermore, OP says he uses drugs like Galantamine, which complicates things further, as it increases the possibility that all of this is a big fantasy well constructed by his mind. I have always been a person of fertile imagination, I have had lucid dreams since I was a teenager and I can testify that our minds can build absurdly complex things, like movie scripts, but that are false, have no reality.

2 - If in fact the Archons have the power to deceive human souls to the extent that has been reported, then it is useless to fight against them, they have superior intelligence and technology and to fight would be the same as cows and chickens revolting against humans for being used as food, chickens can do nothing against humans, I think this is very significant.

3 - I never saw, either in literature or in reports, the things that the OP reports, he seems to be the first and only one to discover a sophisticated system of enslavement of human souls, which makes me suspicious, after all, there are more than 7 billion live humans and many other billions that lived in this world, did the OP alone wake up? He thinks he's Neo, no, he's not.

4 - Some people report having been tortured by the Archons, which contradicts the central idea that they use pleasure and well-being to convince human souls to do what they want, as reported in NDEs. If they have the power to provide this great welfare, there is no reason to torture and generate the revolt that would turn against them in the future. Inconsistent.

5 - Reincarnation is an inconsistent concept, since, for it to actually exist, it would be necessary for the person who reincarnates to preserve their memories. If Archons has the power to erase a person's memories, that means killing souls, because once a person's memories are erased, he dies, even if there is something left of him that can be used, from the point of view of consciousness, he dies, because there is no soul if there is no memory, as a certain thinker said: I am the sum of my memories. What would happen then in this process proposed by OP is an annihilation of the soul and the use of its energy to generate another soul, something very confusing and strange.

6 - If what OP says is true, he was forced to reincarnate (whatever that means) when he died the last time. It must not have been the first, since anyone who believes in this reincarnation thing believes that he has reincarnated many, many times. Why, just this time, did he "wake up" and realize he was a slave? Is it because today we have Internet, cinema and science fiction literature that encourages people to create fantasies? It's very likely. A 19th century person never wrote anything like that, it says a lot.

7 - The Archons have no moral sense or goodness, and, if in fact they rule the Universe, together with the Demiurge, such a universe is nothing more than a hell where there would be no sense to exist, and a fight for "freedom" in a universe of this type would mean nothing.

8 - OP said the Archons enslave human souls based on "soul contracts" that need to be broken. This also doesn't make sense, again I use the example of chickens and cows, I don't need them to sign contracts to use them as food, I just have the power to dominate them and that's it. Contracts? No OP, it doesn't make any sense.

Finally, I say that all that OP reports is fantasy, since there is no ontological basis for verifying the reality of these facts other than the his narrative. If I depend on a single person's narrative to believe in something, I won't believe it, it doesn't make sense. Either the OP brings to the situation concrete evidence that what he says is true, or he cannot sustain his narrative as anything more than a science fiction fantasy, one of rather bad taste, I must say, I have known better fictions throughout life.

Fantasies, that's all I can say about it all. Greetings to you all. Bye.
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1)GALANTAMINE IS NOT A DRUG. IT IS A VITAMIN SUPPLEMENT AND IS REGULARLY USED BY THE ELDERLY TO STRENGTHEN THE MIND AND AVOID ALZHEIMERS. IT IS ALSO WORTH NOTING I USE GALANTAMINE ONLY TWICE A MONTH. MOST OF MY EXPERIENCES HAVE BEEN WITHOUT IT.

2)HUMANS HAVE INCREDIBLE POWERS BUT HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THEM AND HAVE ALSO BEEN MIND CONTROLLED FOR CENTURIES TO ACCEPT THEIR "LIMITATIONS". IT IS THEW TRUE NATURE OF HUMANS TO BE "ETERNAL CREATORS WHO KNOW NO LIMITATIONS". I HAVE FELT THE "FORCE" AND I KNOW IT IS REAL.

3)THE GNOSTICS AND RENE DESCARTES FIGURED THIS OUT LONG AGO. IN RECENT TIMES RESEARCHERS SUCH AS WES PENRE, AUG TELLEZ, RON MONTALK AND CAMERON DAY HAVE DONE IN DEPTH DETAILED WRITINGS AND VIDEOS ON THE SUBJECT. THERE ARE MANY OTHERS AS WELL.

4) I HAVE DISCUSSED THE "NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE" MANY TIMES AND CLEARLY EXPLAINED IT IS A SCAM USED FOR ADVERTISING ENTRANCE IN TO THE WHITE LIGHT TUNNEL.

5)THE ARCHONS HAVE ADVANCED TECH USED TO ERASE MEMORIES. THEY HAVE BEEN SEEN USING THIS TECH ON DECEASED HUMANS BY MANY PEOPLE DURING ASTRAL TRAVEL.

6)I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT I REINCARNATED OR HAD A PREVIOUS LIFE ON THIS PLANET.

7)ANYTHING CAN BE TRANSFORMED. IT WILL BE DONE.

8)THE ANIMALS YOU REFER TO ARE NON SOULED NPC.

IT IS INTERESTING YOU LABEL MY EXPERIENCES AS "FANTASY" WHEN YOU HAVE EMPHATICALLY PROFESSED BELIEF FOR A SAVIOR KNOWN AS "JESUS CHRIST" THAT YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN AND ACTUALLY DOES NOT EXIST.


I FEEL BAD FOR PEOPLE SUCH AS YOURSELF. YOUR OBJECTIVE, LIKE ALL THOSE RELIGIOUSLY MIND CONTROLLED, IS TO SEEK VALIDATION OF YOUR BELIEFS IN A NON EXISTENT SAVIOR.

GOOD LUCK ON YOUR JOURNEYS. ALL I ASK IS YOU PLEASE REMEMBER THIS CONVERSATION AFTER PHYSICAL DEATH. UNFORTUNATELY YOU WILL BE SADLY UNPREPARED FOR WHAT IS TO BE EXPERIENCED.

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Does the name of Jesus Christ drive the demons away? Can you try this on astral parasites and tell me what happens? It seems to work for me. According to CERN video, faith (antimatter) is the only detergent to the demons. Having faith harnesses this emotion from this realm and can cure any disease which is what ppl call placebo. If you can harness this energy, it's game over.
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Interesting point. I think faith/willpower is what drives the demons away, not the name of Jesus Christ. Since we live in a simulation reality created by our thought power, this only makes sense. That’s why when you’re scared the demons show up more often and more intensely. Because you’re feeding their existence with your fear. So if you refuse to submit to that fear, you cut them off from your energy, which is how they are able to manifest in the physical. Using your faith/willpower, however misdirected coming from a religious origin, still works against them.
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Interesting point. I think faith/willpower is what drives the demons away, not the name of Jesus Christ. Since we live in a simulation reality created by our thought power, this only makes sense. That’s why when you’re scared the demons show up more often and more intensely. Because you’re feeding their existence with your fear. So if you refuse to submit to that fear, you cut them off from your energy, which is how they are able to manifest in the physical. Using your faith/willpower, however misdirected coming from a religious origin, still works against them.
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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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How many of the alien races interacting on earth do these astral pests control through reincarnation?

The reptilians?

Grays?

Nordics?

Are they all bound by the life/death cycle to produce their own form of loosh?

Even as they mess with us?

How deep does this go?
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How many of the alien races interacting on earth do these astral pests control through reincarnation?

The reptilians?

Grays?

Nordics?

Are they all bound by the life/death cycle to produce their own form of loosh?

Even as they mess with us?

How deep does this go?
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To my understanding the reptilians and archons are one and the same. They just take on different forms until the next reset. That way we can never identify them by appearance alone.
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Also, I believe the line of Seth / seed of the serpent originated from the archon parasites. They manipulated our dna to include their’s (reptilian brain), which allowed the development of the ego. This theory might explain the non-souled NPCs referred to here. And since we live in a matrix simulation, I am currently wondering if these NPCs actually exist. They might just manifest when we think of them or when we are interacting with them. Like when you enter a new area of the map in a game and the loading screen serves you up new characters that belong there.

Hopefully this post doesn’t invite all the bibletards to start converting people to Christianity. I just referenced the Bible to illustrate a point.

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How many of the alien races interacting on earth do these astral pests control through reincarnation?

The reptilians?

Grays?

Nordics?

Are they all bound by the life/death cycle to produce their own form of loosh?

Even as they mess with us?

How deep does this go?
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To my understanding the reptilians and archons are one and the same. They just take on different forms until the next reset. That way we can never identify them by appearance alone.
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Aha!

So they're classic shapeshifters and we're left trying to suss out which shell holds the ball.

I have read the grays are cyber-droids, worker drones of a sort.

Do the archons have accountability to any galactic forces or alliances for their blatant loosh slavery?
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Also, I believe the line of Seth / seed of the serpent originated from the archon parasites. They manipulated our dna to include their’s (reptilian brain), which allowed the development of the ego. This theory might explain the non-souled NPCs referred to here. And since we live in a matrix simulation, I am currently wondering if these NPCs actually exist. They might just manifest when we think of them or when we are interacting with them. Like when you enter a new area of the map in a game and the loading screen serves you up new characters that belong there.

Hopefully this post doesn’t invite all the bibletards to start converting people to Christianity. I just referenced the Bible to illustrate a point.
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If this matrix is an emanation from another dimension, what means (if any) do we have to enter that reality and disable the projection?

OP was clear on meditation and astral projection, but if the frequency grid is self-repairing, how do we evade it - become pure photon energy perhaps?
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Also, I believe the line of Seth / seed of the serpent originated from the archon parasites. They manipulated our dna to include their’s (reptilian brain), which allowed the development of the ego. This theory might explain the non-souled NPCs referred to here. And since we live in a matrix simulation, I am currently wondering if these NPCs actually exist. They might just manifest when we think of them or when we are interacting with them. Like when you enter a new area of the map in a game and the loading screen serves you up new characters that belong there.

Hopefully this post doesn’t invite all the bibletards to start converting people to Christianity. I just referenced the Bible to illustrate a point.
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The bible is an excellent example of how this evil works. They provide half truths mixed in with some lies. That lies and evil is what makes this shit so dangerous. False light cults have been the downfall of humanity. I used to be a muslim and believe in hell. It was all fear porn to farm your fear energies. I have personally seen reptilians in shadow form. Organized religion was created to steal your energies through this fear of hell. Faith in yourself, not jesus helps. Christianity was put in place to make the sheep weak and not take action. The protoi are working on this and are taking over this property so not all hope is lost. We are winning.
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