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GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION

 
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Tell her what you believe, Zova...

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This thread spells it out very clearly.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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“When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”

G.K. Chesterton

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Thanks for answering my questions.

Does the Demiurge have a personality?

Can you describe the “good guys” who fought in Nuremberg against the archon controllers?

How did your battle in the astral realm play out?

Are sentient forces of good aware of our enslavement and do they plan on helping us? Or is it too risky and it’s up to us?

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I have accidentally astral projected but am going to work on doing it on purpose. The vibrational stage is VERY unnerving and I haven't been able to get past it. It's like an electrical buzzing and shaking and not something I've been able to 'get used to' for lack of a better word.

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Interesting.

The video that OP referred to very specifically refers to this same vibrating you mention:


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I'll have to see if he has any suggestions for getting past it? Probably just plow through and allow it to happen... :-/ LOL
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I have accidentally astral projected but am going to work on doing it on purpose. The vibrational stage is VERY unnerving and I haven't been able to get past it. It's like an electrical buzzing and shaking and not something I've been able to 'get used to' for lack of a better word.

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Interesting.

The video that OP referred to very specifically refers to this same vibrating you mention:


 Quoting: Zovalex


I'll have to see if he has any suggestions for getting past it? Probably just plow through and allow it to happen... :-/ LOL
 Quoting: Jennifer X


This one also talks about the {{{vibrations}}}...


“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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It is wonderful that you care about other people so much - that is a very good quality. I try to treat everyone with love and compassion although I do prefer to be alone most of the time, as it is exhausting to be around others for too long.

How on earth did you overcome your fears? To have such experiences in the astral must have been extremely unnerving, but it sounds like you handled it. I am excited for the book about visualization to arrive so I can get started, thank you again for the recommendation.


HI. THANKS FOR YOUR NICE COMMENT. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING ALONE. MOST PEOPLE WILL DRAIN YOU WITH THEIR HOSTILITY, NEGATIVITY, PERVERSIONS AND DECEPTIONS. IN THIS PHYSICAL WORLD THE ANSWER IS TO AVOID THEM.

STAY AT HOME. EDUCATE AND TRAIN YOUR MIND. MAKE YOUR OWN PERSONAL POSITIVE SPACE. CREATE YOUR OWN SANCTUARY IN YOUR BEDROOM. MAKE IT PLACE OF EDUCATION, RELAXATION AND MENTAL EXPLORATION. LET THE PROGRAMMED MORONS DO THE ABSURD THINGS THEY DO OUTSIDE OF YOUR SAFE PLACE. AVOID THEM IN YOUR SAFE PERSONAL SPACE AND TRANSFORM YOUR INNER WORLD.

UNNERVING IS JUST THE BEGINNING. I HAVE BEEN THROUGH HELL. NOT ONLY AM I TRYING TO HELP PREVIOUSLY NOT KNOWN DECEASED HUMANS, I ALSO HAVE TO EXPERIENCE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO MY DECEASED FRIENDS AND RELATIVES.

THE PROGRAMMING IS STRONG IN THE AFTERLIFE. CLOSE FRIENDS CAN BECOME MIND CONTROLLED AND TURN AGAINST YOU. SOMEONE WHO WAS VERY CLOSE TO ME HAS TURNED INTO A HORRIBLE PERSON IN THE AFTERLIFE. THE EMOTIONAL PAIN CAUSED BY ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS. BUT THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE.

THE CHOICE CAN ONLY BE HELPING ALL OTHERS AND CREATING REAL FREEDOM.

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“When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”

G.K. Chesterton

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79654789


Oh, “god” is VERY real, AC.

But “god” is not at all what you have been trained to believe.

He’s real, though.

Read this thread from the beginning, all the way through.

If you are a Souled being that is Mind-imprisoned in Abrahamic religious doctrine, you might wake up and realize the horrible reality of the world we are in. If you are an NPC, it will not register.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Thanks for answering my questions.

Does the Demiurge have a personality?

Can you describe the “good guys” who fought in Nuremberg against the archon controllers?

How did your battle in the astral realm play out?

Are sentient forces of good aware of our enslavement and do they plan on helping us? Or is it too risky and it’s up to us?
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THE DEMIURGE HAS A PERSONALITY AND IS RUTHLESSLY EVIL BEYOND COMPREHENSION. THIS ENTITY CONSIDERS ITSELF "GOD", "SATAN", AND THE "GRAND ARCHITECT OF THE UNIVERSE".

BUT UNDERSTAND IT IS A PHYSICAL PROJECTION OF THE MATRIX A.I. SIMILAR TO THE "ARCHITECT" IN THE SECOND MATRIX FILM.

THE DEMIURGE IS SENTIENT AND INCREDIBLY INTELLIGENT. EVEN THOUGH THIS ENTITY IS IN COMPLETE CONTROL AND SEES ITSELF AS UNSTOPPABLE, ULTIMATELY IT IS A SYNTHETIC CREATION.

I SAW HIM ONCE. STRANGELY, HE HAS THREE EYES AND LOOKS HUMAN BUT SORT LIKE AN EVIL ANIME CHARACTER. THAT BEING SAID, IT LIKELY USES A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT AVATARS.

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Donald Marshall Cloning center?
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I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS FACILITY.

IF THIS IS NOT RIDICULE, PLEASE ELABORATE AND EDUCATE US ON THE SUBJECT.

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OP, I need to get some sleep.

Thank you very much for the continuing education.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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OP, I need to get some sleep.

Thank you very much for the continuing education.

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THANKS. WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER :)

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OP, I need to get some sleep.

Thank you very much for the continuing education.

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THANKS. WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER :)

peace
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Have a good rest man!
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OP, is the pole shift the earths way of cleansing itself from these alien parasites? If I’m not mistaken, there should be another coming up, they happen every 3000 years coinciding with each astrological age.

I also sent you a message to your inbox.
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Do angels exist? Or are they just archons in disguise? Surely if there are evil beings, there must be good beings to balance things out in the universe?
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Eight-classes of beings, e.g. yaksha’s, rakshasa’s, gandharva’s, etc.

Some are compassionate, others are ill-tempered....



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It’s said that Padmasambhava liberated many rakshasa’s and even subdued and liberated the king of the rakshasa’s.
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“When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”

G.K. Chesterton

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Oh, “god” is VERY real, AC.

But “god” is not at all what you have been trained to believe.

He’s real, though.

Read this thread from the beginning, all the way through.

If you are a Souled being that is Mind-imprisoned in Abrahamic religious doctrine, you might wake up and realize the horrible reality of the world we are in. If you are an NPC, it will not register.

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Your heart is antichrist.
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LOOKING AROUND AT THE PEOPLE ARGUING IFE AND THIS CREATED KARMIC DEBT THAT YOU BOTH NOW OWE AND MUST BALANCE AND PAY BACK".

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So Jesus was a liar then, when his last words on the cross were:
"All has been paid in full"?
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Beside reading from a bible, how do you know Jesus said those words? Isn't it all blind faith, not something you witness yourself or direct conversation with Jesus?
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So Jesus was a liar then, when his last words on the cross were:
"All has been paid in full"?


But believing in reincarnation is not blind faith, because you have proof!
OH wait, your proof is some weird stories of people who claim they were Princess of Persia and Queens of Egypt in their former lifes.
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LOOKING AROUND AT THE PEOPLE ARGUING IFE AND THIS CREATED KARMIC DEBT THAT YOU BOTH NOW OWE AND MUST BALANCE AND PAY BACK".

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So Jesus was a liar then, when his last words on the cross were:
"All has been paid in full"?
 Quoting: Tekunda

Beside reading from a bible, how do you know Jesus said those words? Isn't it all blind faith, not something you witness yourself or direct conversation with Jesus?
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But believing in reincarnation is not blind faith, because you have proof!
OH wait, your proof is some weird stories of people who claim they were Princess of Persia and Queens of Egypt in their former lifes.
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Yes, believing in reincarnation is also a blind faith for many people. As for me, I would not claim reincarnation is a certainty like you claiming "all has been paid in full" is certainly the last words of Jesus. I don't know for certain, so I'm open for it to be either true or false.

If you viewpoint is a set-in-stone viewpoint, it will be futile to venture into another very different viewpoint as the after death nature discussed here.
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LOOKING AROUND AT THE PEOPLE ARGUING IFE AND THIS CREATED KARMIC DEBT THAT YOU BOTH NOW OWE AND MUST BALANCE AND PAY BACK".

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So Jesus was a liar then, when his last words on the cross were:
"All has been paid in full"?
 Quoting: Tekunda

Beside reading from a bible, how do you know Jesus said those words? Isn't it all blind faith, not something you witness yourself or direct conversation with Jesus?
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But believing in reincarnation is not blind faith, because you have proof!
OH wait, your proof is some weird stories of people who claim they were Princess of Persia and Queens of Egypt in their former lifes.
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Irrelevant because

Jesus did not say “all has been paid in full”.
It’s not in the Bible nor in any other holy book that I know of.

Even if some psychic channeler has claimed that those were Jesus’ last words, there is no reason to assume life really works that way nor that a man/god sacrificing his life and claiming it absolves mankind from responsibility for how they lived their lives has any authority or power to make that happen.

“Reincarnation” so called is spirit obsession, possession, or attachment by spirits of dead people to the bodies of living people and calling themselves reincarnated, sometimes even driving out the original spirit that belongs with that body.

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EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET
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To OP: have you heard of the hell hounds that gaurd the barrier to the outer world? From what I've researched, there is a Titan barrier that has cut us off from source and no one knows who placed the veil. What is the veil/barrier and is it being removed?

Here is the team working on destroying the barrier so we can have our powers back: Thread: I am an Archangel and your realm is about to change
EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET to farm loosh and adrenochrome.

Read this if you want to know the truth of it all: Thread: My compilation of the ultimate truths you will ever need!!!
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EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD NEEDS TO READ THE ALIEN INTERVIEW. IT GOES INTO DETAIL WHO RUNS THIS PRISON PLANET AND HOW MEMORIES ARE ERASED. IT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING ABOUT REALITY AND WHO WE ARE AS IMMORTAL SOULS. VERY FASCINATING MATERIAL AND I HAVE IT LINKED IN ONE OF MY THREADS TOO. HERE IS THE INTERVIEW: [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net (secure)]
EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET to farm loosh and adrenochrome.

Read this if you want to know the truth of it all: Thread: My compilation of the ultimate truths you will ever need!!!
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if what you say is the truth - then it seems we have to question the love and or power of our creator. What say you?
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if what you say is the truth - then it seems we have to question the love and or power of our creator. What say you?
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I’m pretty sure Satan/Demiurge is a parasite that latched itself onto Earth. Mother Gaia is basically doing the best she can to fend off this threat. In the meantime, we are all trapped here. Religion was always a bunch of lies mixed with truths anyway.
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if what you say is the truth - then it seems we have to question the love and or power of our creator. What say you?
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Ahhhh, you’re starting to think now.....

The “god” as depicted by Abrahamic religions is a LIE.

Your so-called “creator” that you worship is NOT your creator. He is the Warden of this Soul prison farm that HE hijacked and took control over. He is a “benevolent slave master” as well as a “malevolent benefactor”. He is pure Darkness masquerading as Light. He is Evil clothed in Love. Your Soul was tricked/trapped and otherwise kidnapped and forced into this living Hell. You are to the Archonic forces what cattle and poultry are to humans.... nothing more than food, except the Archonic food is your low-vibrational energies that emits from you while experiencing fear, depression, anxiety, anger and hate, guilt and remorse, suffering and pain, terror and panic, and other negative emotions.

When you die from your physical body, your memory of all you have learned and gained is simply wiped and erased, and your Soul is forcibly reincarnated back into the Soul prison system we reside in.

You are nothing but “food” to them. A “battery” to energize them.

Your “loving god” is a fiction.

There is indeed a genuine “Source” beyond the Demiurge god controlling this world, but we have been cut off from that Source.

But the Archonic forces do not want you to know this horrible truth, because when you realize the awful Truth, you start planning to no longer be a part of their world, and you assist to awaken others.

Nay, your “loving and merciful god” is an evil tyrant holding all of us prisoner just as humans imprison cattle, pigs, and poultry. We may be humane to the cattle, pigs, and poultry (benevolent slave masters), but we raise them to be slaughtered as food (malevolent benefactors). In like manner, the Demiurge and his Archonic forces are doing precisely the same with humans.

As above, so below.
As below, so above.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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if what you say is the truth - then it seems we have to question the love and or power of our creator. What say you?
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I’m pretty sure Satan/Demiurge is a parasite that latched itself onto Earth. Mother Gaia is basically doing the best she can to fend off this threat. In the meantime, we are all trapped here. Religion was always a bunch of lies mixed with truths anyway.
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YES.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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if what you say is the truth - then it seems we have to question the love and or power of our creator. What say you?
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Ahhhh, you’re starting to think now.....

The “god” as depicted by Abrahamic religions is a LIE.

Your so-called “creator” that you worship is NOT your creator. He is the Warden of this Soul prison farm that HE hijacked and took control over. He is a “benevolent slave master” as well as a “malevolent benefactor”. He is pure Darkness masquerading as Light. He is Evil clothed in Love. Your Soul was tricked/trapped and otherwise kidnapped and forced into this living Hell. You are to the Archonic forces what cattle and poultry are to humans.... nothing more than food, except the Archonic food is your low-vibrational energies that emits from you while experiencing fear, depression, anxiety, anger and hate, guilt and remorse, and other negative emotions.

When you die from your physical body, your memory of all you have learned and gained is simply wiped and erased, and your Soul is forcibly reincarnated back into the Soul prison system we reside in.

You are nothing but “food” to them. A “battery” to energize them.

Your “loving god” is a fiction.

There is indeed a genuine “Source” beyond the Demiurge god controlling this world, but we have been cut off from that Source.

But the Archonic forces do not want you to know this horrible truth, because when you realize the awful Truth, you start planning to no longer be a part of their world, and you assist to awaken others.

Nay, your “loving and merciful god” is an evil tyrant holding all of us prisoner as we do cattle, pigs, and poultry. We may be humane to the cattle, pigs, and poultry, but we raise them to be slaughtered as food. In like manner, the Demiurge and his Archonic forces are doing precisely the same with humans.

As above, so below.
As below, so above.

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ok, I can accept this is probably the case. But being cut off from source is precisely what makes me question our "actual" creator. How could "he" (for lack of a better term) - how could he let this happen? If he is the ultimate source then nothing should be "bigger" than him. i.e. there should be no problem he cannot be sovereign over and solve - or else there is something larger than himself - if only ignorance of himself. In that case, all reality at all levels is an out of control shit show and nothing is holy in any realm whatsoever
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I must have picked this up op GLP over 16 years ago, because when my mother was dying, I whispered in her ear to not go into the light.

Even though she didn't love me and had hurt me, I still told her not to go into the light. I told her she will see a dark void, and to go towards that.

I hope I was right as I intend to do the same thing.

The Men in my family will likely all traverse the Universe for the eons, feeling the pain they caused others.

I am also not convinced Suicide makes any difference at all. You'll see the same light and the same void.
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Re: GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION
also - if there is an ultimate source, then it must have always existed - it could not be 'birthed' - or else that means there was something before him. So he has already had all eternity to work this problem out. So I am skeptical of the ultimate creator (I don't mean the demiurge!)- I am skeptical of his intentions. Maybe love is just a myth even going to the very heart of hearts of all reality. Maybe it is just a survival computation arising out of our need to survive





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