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Can I REFUSE a COVID test?

 
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Put the burden on them. Make them show you where the law is showing a test is MANDATORY.


I agree OP, I wouldn't test. They may have you quarantine 14 days though.

Also with hippa laws, I don't think they can legally tell you to provide medical records.
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yeah I would like to see that law myself! Thanks.
Its strange because there is the huge pressure that this is mandatory.

I guess if police pull you over for drunk driving they have the right to test you. hmmm...
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11/19/2020 10:56 AM
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Fuck that,
If my job starts with mandatory testing or vaccines of any kind, thats my line, I will not cross that.

God will provide some other avenue to make a living.

If they are forcing you to test you know when the vaccine comes out they will force that on you as well.

We CANNOT submit to this garbage.
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Put the burden on them. Make them show you where the law is showing a test is MANDATORY.


I agree OP, I wouldn't test. They may have you quarantine 14 days though.

Also with hippa laws, I don't think they can legally tell you to provide medical records.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79649948


yeah I would like to see that law myself! Thanks.
Its strange because there is the huge pressure that this is mandatory.

I guess if police pull you over for drunk driving they have the right to test you. hmmm...
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You can also refuse that test.
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
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i wouldnt do it man, i know it's a tough position to be in but i just couldnt allow myself to do it. I dont trust them as far as i can throw them and i bet i can throw em pretty far! Also, the test are fucked either way, it could show you're positive and you're still going to have to quarantine even if you're not sick.
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Fuck that,
If my job starts with mandatory testing or vaccines of any kind, thats my line, I will not cross that.

God will provide some other avenue to make a living.

If they are forcing you to test you know when the vaccine comes out they will force that on you as well.

We CANNOT submit to this garbage.
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FACTS!!
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11/19/2020 11:01 AM
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
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i wouldnt do it man, i know it's a tough position to be in but i just couldnt allow myself to do it. I dont trust them as far as i can throw them and i bet i can throw em pretty far! Also, the test are fucked either way, it could show you're positive and you're still going to have to quarantine even if you're not sick.
 Quoting: Mist Walker


Thanks, really! Because I feel exactly the same way.
Its nice to know im not alone, (although in my work I am)
I will tell them today. I wonder what they will say.
If I could quote some law or something it would be good.
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11/19/2020 11:04 AM
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Isnt there some law somewhere where I can say no? or is this just how it is and I can't refuse? They are telling me I have no choice :(
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They will not give you your legal options, a lawyer will.
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
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i wouldnt do it man, i know it's a tough position to be in but i just couldnt allow myself to do it. I dont trust them as far as i can throw them and i bet i can throw em pretty far! Also, the test are fucked either way, it could show you're positive and you're still going to have to quarantine even if you're not sick.
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Thanks, really! Because I feel exactly the same way.
Its nice to know im not alone, (although in my work I am)
I will tell them today. I wonder what they will say.
If I could quote some law or something it would be good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79511239


Call a lawyer!
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11/19/2020 11:09 AM
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
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What’s the worst that will happen if you refuse?
They make you quarantine for 14 days or they fire you.
 Quoting: Chi-TownMark


yeah I really don't need to be fired right now.
Its a cozy job actually.

Just now, I am afraid as to what ground I can stand on if I tell them no. ITs hard to find any info on it, when I bring it up with my colleagues they think im nuts to refuse.
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Do not discuss anything with colleagues anymore, that work climate is gone. They will use anything you tell them against you.
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11/19/2020 11:10 AM
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Check your employment contract.
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Thanks, really! Because I feel exactly the same way.
Its nice to know im not alone, (although in my work I am)
I will tell them today. I wonder what they will say.
If I could quote some law or something it would be good.



It would be great if you post your results, im curious what they will say. Today its you, tomorrow it will be my work site.
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11/19/2020 11:13 AM
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Thanks, really! Because I feel exactly the same way.
Its nice to know im not alone, (although in my work I am)
I will tell them today. I wonder what they will say.
If I could quote some law or something it would be good.



It would be great if you post your results, im curious what they will say. Today its you, tomorrow it will be my work site.


I just lied to my boss.
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
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What’s the worst that will happen if you refuse?
They make you quarantine for 14 days or they fire you.
 Quoting: Chi-TownMark


yeah I really don't need to be fired right now.
Its a cozy job actually.

Just now, I am afraid as to what ground I can stand on if I tell them no. ITs hard to find any info on it, when I bring it up with my colleagues they think im nuts to refuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79511239


Do not discuss anything with colleagues anymore, that work climate is gone. They will use anything you tell them against you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74873148


This, lie, cheat and steal. Fight the liberal mongrels woth thier own tactics.
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11/19/2020 11:15 AM
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79649948


Thanks, really! Because I feel exactly the same way.
Its nice to know im not alone, (although in my work I am)
I will tell them today. I wonder what they will say.
If I could quote some law or something it would be good.



It would be great if you post your results, im curious what they will say. Today its you, tomorrow it will be my work site.


Ok! its the least I can do to thank everyone's great input, it is so much appreciated! hf

Wording my email now.
Damn hard.
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What’s the worst that will happen if you refuse?
They make you quarantine for 14 days or they fire you.
 Quoting: Chi-TownMark


yeah I really don't need to be fired right now.
Its a cozy job actually.

Just now, I am afraid as to what ground I can stand on if I tell them no. ITs hard to find any info on it, when I bring it up with my colleagues they think im nuts to refuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79511239


Do not discuss anything with colleagues anymore, that work climate is gone. They will use anything you tell them against you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74873148


This, lie, cheat and steal. Fight the liberal mongrels woth thier own tactics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78148460


rofl 5a
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11/19/2020 11:31 AM
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hmmmm... not looking good.

"
But some employers might want to go a step farther and require employees to take a COVID-19 viral test as a condition of returning to the workplace. Is this legal?

According to recent guidance from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), the answer is probably yes.
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11/19/2020 11:33 AM
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from same link

What If I Refuse to Take a Viral Test?

It's possible that an employee could refuse testing based on a recognized disability under the ADA or a sincerely held religious belief consistent with Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. In these situations, the employer would have to provide a reasonable accommodation to allow the employee to work unless it doing so would be an undue hardship.

Some employees might refuse for purely personal reasons or because of a general skepticism about the virus. Given that COVID-19 poses a direct threat to the workforce, you could be risking your job if you refuse to be tested without a good reason.
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11/19/2020 11:34 AM
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Religious exemption for testing. hmmmm.....
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11/19/2020 11:35 AM
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Discrimination!
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11/19/2020 11:35 AM
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You can refuse anything you want. Nobody can make you do anything.
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11/19/2020 11:37 AM
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You can refuse anything you want. Nobody can make you do anything.
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I can't lose my job, not in this climate :(
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11/19/2020 11:41 AM
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Anyone that wants to jam a foot long qtip into my brain will experience a 9mm hollow point in theirs.

FUCK THEM

DO NOT FUCKING COMPLY AT ALL COSTS
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11/19/2020 11:43 AM
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Anyone that wants to jam a foot long qtip into my brain will experience a 9mm hollow point in theirs.

FUCK THEM

DO NOT FUCKING COMPLY AT ALL COSTS
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lol
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11/19/2020 11:46 AM
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If I lose my job and my next prospective employer finds out the reason I lost my job was I refused a covid test, it could seriously hamper my career
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If I lose my job and my next prospective employer finds out the reason I lost my job was I refused a covid test, it could seriously hamper my career
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I fully understand your concern. This is how they will try to get everyone eventually. Cant buy or sell without the mask, cant work without the test, next step is the mark. This does not stop as long as people will bend over and do it.

If you give in now, next you will take the mark to maintain your job, you will let your children take the mark to make it "easier" for them. You also have to take into consideration that this is going to further entrench you into the contact tracers list and possibly open up your family to being confiscated and taken to a FEMA camp. Already happening in my state.

Each and every one of us will have to make this decision. Where is your line in the sand? My Lord tells me to have no part in any of this evil fuckery and I will not. If I have to go live in the woods, starve or even die I will. I will not comply with one shred of this horseshit. I will not wear a fucking face diaper, I will not take a "test" and I will not take their mark of the beast vaccine.

I break the "law" every day. I have been in fist fights over being attacked for no face diaper. And I beat the living shit out of the retard attacker. I will not fucking comply with any of this. Jesus told us to OCCUPY until his return and when He gets here I am going to have a long list of occupation activities to present to Him. Fuck the law. Do you see anyone else following the "law" right now? LOL. I am my own fucking law until Jesus returns.

Do you want to continue to live in a world like this? If everyone complies then that is exactly what you will end up with. I would rather be dead than roll over for a bunch of pedo communists. I refuse to. At all costs...
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If I lose my job and my next prospective employer finds out the reason I lost my job was I refused a covid test, it could seriously hamper my career
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79511239


I fully understand your concern. This is how they will try to get everyone eventually. Cant buy or sell without the mask, cant work without the test, next step is the mark. This does not stop as long as people will bend over and do it.

If you give in now, next you will take the mark to maintain your job, you will let your children take the mark to make it "easier" for them. You also have to take into consideration that this is going to further entrench you into the contact tracers list and possibly open up your family to being confiscated and taken to a FEMA camp. Already happening in my state.

Each and every one of us will have to make this decision. Where is your line in the sand? My Lord tells me to have no part in any of this evil fuckery and I will not. If I have to go live in the woods, starve or even die I will. I will not comply with one shred of this horseshit. I will not wear a fucking face diaper, I will not take a "test" and I will not take their mark of the beast vaccine.

I break the "law" every day. I have been in fist fights over being attacked for no face diaper. And I beat the living shit out of the retard attacker. I will not fucking comply with any of this. Jesus told us to OCCUPY until his return and when He gets here I am going to have a long list of occupation activities to present to Him. Fuck the law. Do you see anyone else following the "law" right now? LOL. I am my own fucking law until Jesus returns.

Do you want to continue to live in a world like this? If everyone complies then that is exactly what you will end up with. I would rather be dead than roll over for a bunch of pedo communists. I refuse to. At all costs...
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Just lie about it. Say, “I just got a call from the testing center, and they said I’m negative. I can return to work now”
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Can you ask for a blood test instead? At least that wouldn't be a PCR test (which is bogus anyway) and wouldn't be ramming a swab up next to your brain.

Maybe get a doctor's note saying you can't do the nasal test because of whatever reason... tonsil problems, sinus issues, whatever you can get. Make the employer do the blood test, even though that will seriously annoy them.

I'm curious what others have to say, because I have a family member who may be facing this issue in the next couple of months too.
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I would rather not have any test, I think the whole things a scam personally. Don't trust those quacks for a second.
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Totally agree. But a blood test is less dangerous and more accurate than PCR, which makes it the lesser of two evils, I think. I could be wrong.

Maybe you'd get lucky if you pushed the issue by demanding a blood test, and they'll give up and let you pass.
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hehe... I like that, keep making crazy demands, might just work...hf
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Another crazy demand: You know how you have to sign a form at the doctor's office aknowledging that you understand your HIPPA rights? I'm looking on the HHS website, and it looks like employers don't have to do that. (I was going to suggest that you demand a copy of their policy, which you know they don't have, but that's probably a dead end.)

However, it does say this...

"However, if your employer asks your health care provider directly for information about you, your provider cannot give your employer the information without your authorization unless other laws require them to do so."

Could it be that even if you take the test, the testing people cannot give the info to your employer without your authorization? If so, ask your employer up front about an authorization form to release the information from the testing people. If they don't have one, they would have to figure out something. Again, they might get so frustrated and just give in, and let you pass.
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It looks like they’re already covering their asses with the expected adverse vaccine drug reactions that they know are going to take place.
And you won’t even be able to sue them if you get sick!
They have a contract out to be awarded for a computer program to keep track of all the adverse vaccine drug reactions????
Now what are they looking for?
Description Of The Procurement:
“The MHRA (that’s the medicine and healthcare products regulatory agency) urgently seeks an artificial intelligence software tool to process the expected high volume of covit 19 vaccine adverse drug reaction abr’s and insure that no detail from the adr’s reaction text are missed.”
It does look like they are preparing for many illnesses from this vaccine.
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