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Can I REFUSE a COVID test?

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/19/2020 02:21 PM
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
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Right on the FDA website it says that the test is not approved. Show them that.
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Why are you sick?
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not really, a sniffle, but thats normal for this time of year. half the office tested positive and so they send us home for emergency quarantine and demand us all to be tested. I am the only one who has so far not done the test.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79511239


If they already sent you all home for emergency quarantine, can you just request that they let you stay home for 14 days and come back without a test? (You might not get paid for those days out, since you weren't proven to be sick / medical reason.)

Here's the argument: If you test positive, you'll have to quarantine for 14 days anyway, right? So just volunteer to quarantine anyway. Should be the same difference in the end, don't you think?
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
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Right on the FDA website it says that the test is not approved. Show them that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46432626


And a couple days ago, a Portugal court determined that PCR is not reliable, thus forced quarantine is not legal. (Paraphrasing, something like that.)

Look for that thread here on GLP. Maybe you could glean something from there.

If nothing else, I always try to slip in that "you're going to be on the wrong side of history on this," which really annoys people. Show them that other countries are figuring out the PCR failings, and you're not convinced we should participate until it's settled.
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Anonymous Coward (OP)
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11/19/2020 02:56 PM
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'You can't come back to the office without doing the test"
Is my reply.

:( bastards. I don't know my next move.
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11/19/2020 02:59 PM
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79511239



Right on the FDA website it says that the test is not approved. Show them that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46432626


And a couple days ago, a Portugal court determined that PCR is not reliable, thus forced quarantine is not legal. (Paraphrasing, something like that.)

Look for that thread here on GLP. Maybe you could glean something from there.

If nothing else, I always try to slip in that "you're going to be on the wrong side of history on this," which really annoys people. Show them that other countries are figuring out the PCR failings, and you're not convinced we should participate until it's settled.
 Quoting: Renaissance Woman


They don't want to hear about my opinions of the PCR Test,
its just policy. Although I do think I need to write some heavy email to combat this though.
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11/19/2020 03:02 PM
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
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I assume that will depend on what your employment contract says.
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11/19/2020 03:05 PM
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
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I assume that will depend on what your employment contract says.
 Quoting: Katipo2017


Yes but that was a long time ago, I don't think there were previsions in there about my rights during a pandemic, but its still a good idea to check what the companies policies are.
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11/19/2020 03:17 PM
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I don't want to be on a dna db, and I don't believe the pcr tests are accurate.
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DING DING DING

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Marioccena89

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11/19/2020 03:22 PM
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OP, get a meeting with a lawyer or just call one and ask what are your reasonable ways out of this?
You can always threaten then with suing, im sure there is no way in a free country like USA for your trial to lose. there are so many reasons for you to not accept this draconian pressures.
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11/19/2020 03:27 PM
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OP, get a meeting with a lawyer or just call one and ask what are your reasonable ways out of this?
You can always threaten then with suing, im sure there is no way in a free country like USA for your trial to lose. there are so many reasons for you to not accept this draconian pressures.
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yup... Looking that way unfortunately.
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11/19/2020 03:54 PM
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79511239


Let me guess.
Some idiot at your work probably went out and got tested and tested positive?
So now your work wants everyone to get tested?
I truly feel for you OP.
It sucks having to make the choice between having to get tested ( we all know how inaccurate and rigged thet are) and worrying whether you'll get false positived, or losing your job if you refuse.


It's bad enough so many people are forced to wear masks and have their temperature taken just to keep their jobs. As bad as mandatory masks and temperature checks are mandatory testing and vaccines are much worse.
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11/19/2020 04:31 PM
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79511239


Let me guess.
Some idiot at your work probably went out and got tested and tested positive?
So now your work wants everyone to get tested?
I truly feel for you OP.
It sucks having to make the choice between having to get tested ( we all know how inaccurate and rigged thet are) and worrying whether you'll get false positived, or losing your job if you refuse.


It's bad enough so many people are forced to wear masks and have their temperature taken just to keep their jobs. As bad as mandatory masks and temperature checks are mandatory testing and vaccines are much worse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74841702


Yep that about sums it up!
They told me today I cant go back to the office unless I do the test.
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OP, get a meeting with a lawyer or just call one and ask what are your reasonable ways out of this?
You can always threaten then with suing, im sure there is no way in a free country like USA for your trial to lose. there are so many reasons for you to not accept this draconian pressures.
 Quoting: Marioccena89


yup... Looking that way unfortunately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79511239


Lets us know OP the development of your story and what the lawyer recommends. Im lucky to be self employed so I dont have to worry about these things tho im pretty sure i would have been jobless in this times.
Katipo2017

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11/22/2020 12:27 AM
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
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Don’t be a wuss. Just get it done.
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11/22/2020 01:00 AM
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You might have a disease, what court case can you cite that will support you being fired for having a disease or virus? People have to fight, it may not be the one you want.
MrBiglund

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11/22/2020 01:50 AM
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Can you ask for a blood test instead? At least that wouldn't be a PCR test (which is bogus anyway) and wouldn't be ramming a swab up next to your brain.

Maybe get a doctor's note saying you can't do the nasal test because of whatever reason... tonsil problems, sinus issues, whatever you can get. Make the employer do the blood test, even though that will seriously annoy them.

I'm curious what others have to say, because I have a family member who may be facing this issue in the next couple of months too.
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I would rather not have any test, I think the whole things a scam personally. Don't trust those quacks for a second.
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Move to the mountains!
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11/22/2020 01:59 AM
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This channel has put up some good info on refusing masks. Haven't seen this episode "Q&A Answering your Covid-19 Questions" but might be something useful in there. Good luck!

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11/22/2020 02:49 AM

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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
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Refuse on Religious Grounds.
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11/22/2020 02:57 AM
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No sheep can not refuse
Hebrews 2:3 “how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation”
Xitan

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11/22/2020 02:58 AM
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RANDOM DRUG TEST!

Do you refuse?

Yes?

BOOM.

Job lost.

Same scenario. Both aren't required by law. It's your conspiracy-paranoid mind that you think they will use your dna...

It's not the vaccine, just take the damn test. I did twice. Both of them, the rapid one. Find a place that does the rapid one. It doesn't go to your brain.
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11/22/2020 02:14 PM
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What is the rapid one, saliva?
Goby

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11/22/2020 02:43 PM
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google and photoshop can be your friends here. Just like Obamas birth certificate.
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google and photoshop can be your friends here. Just like Obamas birth certificate.
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This. Bet some hacker has obtained an official lab test, blurred out the names and posted it online.
Mary T

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11/22/2020 03:44 PM
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Re: Can I REFUSE a COVID test?
right now, it is NOT mandatory. but thats with Trump as president.

some people who have had the vaccine (they are the ones in the clinical trials) say that they got side effects after their vaccine injection, they say their arm hurts really bad and also they get a flu for a few days.. guess this is the way it works. so because it leaves you with uncomfortable effects, since you have to get a 2nd shot with the Phizer vaccine, the side effects might make people not to want to go for the 2nd necessary vaccine.

so be prepared for side effects.
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
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11/22/2020 05:59 PM
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Work wants me tested. Can I refuse? what are my rights?
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As a contractor with the federal govt., I can refuse a test but then they impose on my company to instantly replace me since I am no longer qualified to be on site. It's just like being active duty except you can be instantly fired with zero appeal recourse.
SerenaSeesAll

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11/25/2020 03:35 PM

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Just got back from walk in clinic for bronchitis. They asked all the usual dumb covid questions and asked me if I have been tested. They never once suggested that I should be tested.
I will never do it.
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11/25/2020 04:42 PM
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Just do it - if you have two weeks off its ok for 80% pay doing nothing. Oh. Your in the states....
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RANDOM DRUG TEST!

Do you refuse?

Yes?

BOOM.

Job lost.

Same scenario. Both aren't required by law. It's your conspiracy-paranoid mind that you think they will use your dna...

It's not the vaccine, just take the damn test. I did twice. Both of them, the rapid one. Find a place that does the rapid one. It doesn't go to your brain.
 Quoting: Xitan


Yeah but that is in your contract...

If suspecting people may have an infectious disease and they need it proved otherwise is in your contract or anything with complying with company policy is then no you cant refuse. They may just suspend you for two weeks without pay. Get the test if its positive then time off for 80% pay if neg then all is where you where. Whats your problem. You already have a ss number... Unless you need to keep your dna off a database due to past unsolved serious crimes then why fight it.





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