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UPDATE Seized Server; Scytl uses Amazon Web Services Frankfurt Germany Data Center w/ separate emergency back up center in Frankfurt as well

 
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Sorry GLP not letting me embed still. WTF
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fixed
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Thanks cool2
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-there have been reports that pieces of hardware, like servers, have been confiscated in Germany ...

-it's true ...

it's true that there have been reports how people have seen a German tweet saying that the US military caught the surfers ...



and it's thought the surfers mean servers ...


Logical thinking.

Rudy and Powell did a presser for Trump, right? and Trump is the Commander in Chief ...


there have been reports how the Militilary Patriots have been routinely disobeying Trump's orders and then the Miltary Intelligence has fed Trump steady diet of bullshit in President's Daily Briefs, to cover the insubordination up ...


but suppose the Patriotic Military Patriots have taken the servers ... would Trump know it in that case?

and if Trump knew, would his lawyers know?


the truth is this German servers story is absurd.



from the horse's mouth:



Scytl strongly denies the fake news related to the U.S. elections
November 13, 2020 | General

In view of the information published by some sources about Scytl’s involvement in alleged electoral fraud in the United States, the company would like to clarify that:

1) Scytl has NO presence in Frankfurt, Germany

The U.S. military has not seized anything related to Scytl in Frankfurt, Barcelona or anywhere else. The company does not even have offices in Frankfurt and does not have servers or computers in the German city.
Servers in Frankfurt were used for a specific project for the European Parliament in 2019. These back-up servers were closed in September 2019.
The technologies implemented by Scytl in the United States are hosted and managed within the United States by our local subsidiary, SOE Software, based in Tampa, Florida.
The company currently has offices in: Spain, France, Greece, the US, Canada, and Australia.
Associated Press published on November 14 an article debunking the fake news.

2) Scytl did NOT provide any electronic voting machines to US jurisdictions and does NOT tabulate, tally or count votes in US public elections. These are the products Scytl provided to city, county, and state clients across the United States:


[link to www.scytl.com (secure)]

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the of course if these guys are part of the globalo-satanist cabal they would lie ...
 Quoting: Master Fact Checker


Oh so the company who specializes in Election fraud has said that they didn't do it.

Case closed I guess then....

Fuck me to fucking tears.
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Look at Rudy and the other lawyer lady in the background. Their smiles say everything. Good guys have it.
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From your lips to God's ears.

Given human nature, if Powell's reply below the surface were as unsure and ambiguous as it sounds, I wouldn't think people in the know (unless they're anti-Trump dark hats) would smile.

If so, why Powell said what she did is due to what? She's being kept out of a part of the loop? An attempt by her to throw President Trump's enemies off the trail?
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-there have been reports that pieces of hardware, like servers, have been confiscated in Germany ...

-it's true ...

it's true that there have been reports how people have seen a German tweet saying that the US military caught the surfers ...



and it's thought the surfers mean servers ...


Logical thinking.

Rudy and Powell did a presser for Trump, right? and Trump is the Commander in Chief ...


there have been reports how the Militilary Patriots have been routinely disobeying Trump's orders and then the Miltary Intelligence has fed Trump steady diet of bullshit in President's Daily Briefs, to cover the insubordination up ...


but suppose the Patriotic Military Patriots have taken the servers ... would Trump know it in that case?

and if Trump knew, would his lawyers know?


the truth is this German servers story is absurd.



from the horse's mouth:



Scytl strongly denies the fake news related to the U.S. elections
November 13, 2020 | General

In view of the information published by some sources about Scytl’s involvement in alleged electoral fraud in the United States, the company would like to clarify that:

1) Scytl has NO presence in Frankfurt, Germany

The U.S. military has not seized anything related to Scytl in Frankfurt, Barcelona or anywhere else. The company does not even have offices in Frankfurt and does not have servers or computers in the German city.
Servers in Frankfurt were used for a specific project for the European Parliament in 2019. These back-up servers were closed in September 2019.
The technologies implemented by Scytl in the United States are hosted and managed within the United States by our local subsidiary, SOE Software, based in Tampa, Florida.
The company currently has offices in: Spain, France, Greece, the US, Canada, and Australia.
Associated Press published on November 14 an article debunking the fake news.

2) Scytl did NOT provide any electronic voting machines to US jurisdictions and does NOT tabulate, tally or count votes in US public elections. These are the products Scytl provided to city, county, and state clients across the United States:


[link to www.scytl.com (secure)]

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the of course if these guys are part of the globalo-satanist cabal they would lie ...
 Quoting: Master Fact Checker



These are Dominion machines, not SCYTL, and they were seized.

That why Ezra Watnick announced the OPSEC command chain change yesterday.

They have the proof & dominion knows they are busted.
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They most certainly were, why do you think Esper was shit canned. The special forces now report directly to the Sec of Defense not the shitheads in pentagon
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But not sure if good guys or bad guys got them???


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i'd say the same thing, why tip your hand (Ace in the hole)?
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Giuliani said Monday it is the hands of a “State”. He wouldn’t say which one.
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From my understanding a server was seized, on Germany.
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I most certainly do hope the good guys have the servers.

I would not be surprised if the good guys are playing a mind game to confuse the opposition and cause them to make mistakes and squirm over the stress and uncertainty of the situation.

If the bad guys have the servers then things may be pretty damn grim.
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The CIA is too infiltrated by satanists to save. The others maybe if you have someone who has the ability to identify them. And they know when you can see into them and discern their intent. Their demons get very agitated. All they have is their secrecy and once identified it’s over for them.
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Look at Rudy and the other lawyer lady in the background. Their smiles say everything. Good guys have it.
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I saw that. I think it is part of a criminal investigation and that is way it is suppressed. We know the CIA and other big players are involved.
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Look at Rudy and the other lawyer lady in the background. Their smiles say everything. Good guys have it.
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From your lips to God's ears.

Given human nature, if Powell's reply below the surface were as unsure and ambiguous as it sounds, I wouldn't think people in the know (unless they're anti-Trump dark hats) would smile.

If so, why Powell said what she did is due to what? She's being kept out of a part of the loop? An attempt by her to throw President Trump's enemies off the trail?
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Throw enemiesnoff the trail indeed
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But not sure if good guys or bad guys got them???
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Backside chatter is that there was a gun battle between C_A and specops forces for the server.

SpecsOps won, but there were casualties.

Thank God for them ol' Fandango Rangers.
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Look at Rudy and the other lawyer lady in the background. Their smiles say everything. Good guys have it.
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Hope so.


:strangelove:
 Quoting: duFontaine.


their smiles seemed more confident than concerned
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Watch the blonde in back. She never smiles throughout the question until the very end. I maybe reading too much into her smile, but it wasn't a nervous smile. It was a good guys got it smile.
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But not sure if good guys or bad guys got them???


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 Quoting: duFontaine.


i'd say the same thing, why tip your hand (Ace in the hole)?
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Giuliani said Monday it is the hands of a “State”. He wouldn’t say which one.
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That means the US government is divided. Either the globalist deep state faction has it or the sovereign faction.
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But not sure if good guys or bad guys got them???
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Backside chatter is that there was a gun battle between C_A and specops forces for the server.

SpecsOps won, but there were casualties.

Thank God for them ol' Fandango Rangers.
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What is C_A?
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But not sure if good guys or bad guys got them???
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Backside chatter is that there was a gun battle between C_A and specops forces for the server.

SpecsOps won, but there were casualties.

Thank God for them ol' Fandango Rangers.
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This
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But not sure if good guys or bad guys got them???
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Backside chatter is that there was a gun battle between C_A and specops forces for the server.

SpecsOps won, but there were casualties.

Thank God for them ol' Fandango Rangers.
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What is C_A?
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rightquestion
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To all the Mighty Men and Women of Valor.. I know you’re ready my brothers and sisters.
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Look at Rudy and the other lawyer lady in the background. Their smiles say everything. Good guys have it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38204937



From your lips to God's ears.

Given human nature, if Powell's reply below the surface were as unsure and ambiguous as it sounds, I wouldn't think people in the know (unless they're anti-Trump dark hats) would smile.

If so, why Powell said what she did is due to what? She's being kept out of a part of the loop? An attempt by her to throw President Trump's enemies off the trail?
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Uncertainty can be a great thing in a criminal case like this. If you are a criminal and think the wrong side has it and you face a 20 year prison sentence then you may be so inclined to help the investigation for a lighter sentence. Also, if you're the criminal and you think your side has it then you continue to make bad decisions and ultimately it can lead to a bigger fish being caught.

Too many things happened last week with the hiring and firing of top Military officials. It isn't a coincidence. The good guys have it.
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It was my understanding they were unaware there were servers in Germany. And in an office space shared by George Soros
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Any bets on how many new clients attorneys across the country took on by 2 pm today?


Rudy didn’t say it specifically, but he laid out how many people in several states would have HAD to taken part in this fraud and “if you know something you should come forward..”.

I took that to mean low level government employees should step forward and spill it before we come after you.

I know Q said “No Deals” but I interpreted this as applying to “the big fish”.
Some outlying county clerk in Michigan giving testimony about who asked them to steal votes would be useful. The more low level snitches, the easier it is to win your case I’d suspect.

Last Edited by President-elect Fly Over Land on 11/19/2020 04:27 PM
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Did Rudy say they may need an agency to oversee the FBI

If so , awesome
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Yes, I caught that too. That alone is HUGE! It means the FBI is so compromised, that it can't function... same with CIA... that's why they direct report to the Military now.

I also saw Rudy's laugh when Sidney said "good guys or bad guys". If they said, yes we have them... that would let the enemy make a countermove... better to keep them guessing.
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Did Rudy say they may need an agency to oversee the FBI

If so , awesome
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Yes, I caught that too. That alone is HUGE! It means the FBI is so compromised, that it can't function... same with CIA... that's why they direct report to the Military now.

I also saw Rudy's laugh when Sidney said "good guys or bad guys". If they said, yes we have them... that would let the enemy make a countermove... better to keep them guessing.
 Quoting: DarkStalker74


Then again the whole sever thing could be a bluff.

A magnificent bluff.

Lol.
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Any bets on how many new clients attorneys across the country took on by 2 pm today?


Rudy didn’t say it specifically, but he laid out how many people in several states would have HAD to taken part in this fraud and “if you know something you should come forward..”.

I took that to mean low level government employees should step forward and spill it before we come after you.

I know Q said “No Deals” but I interpreted this as applying to “the big fish”.
Some outlying county clerk in Michigan giving testimony about who asked them to steal votes would be useful. The more low level snitches, the easier it is to win your case I’d suspect.
 Quoting: President-elect Fly Over Land


I expect everyone involved from bottom to top watched this conference and many, many thousands it took to pull off are shitting their collective britches.
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Why should any IT-equipment pertaining to a US election be located in Germany?
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Because it is was to try and hide the fact that the American politicians are involved in this criminal operation.


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Look at Rudy and the other lawyer lady in the background. Their smiles say everything. Good guys have it.
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From your lips to God's ears.

Given human nature, if Powell's reply below the surface were as unsure and ambiguous as it sounds, I wouldn't think people in the know (unless they're anti-Trump dark hats) would smile.

If so, why Powell said what she did is due to what? She's being kept out of a part of the loop? An attempt by her to throw President Trump's enemies off the trail?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76092039


Uncertainty can be a great thing in a criminal case like this. If you are a criminal and think the wrong side has it and you face a 20 year prison sentence then you may be so inclined to help the investigation for a lighter sentence. Also, if you're the criminal and you think your side has it then you continue to make bad decisions and ultimately it can lead to a bigger fish being caught.

Too many things happened last week with the hiring and firing of top Military officials. It isn't a coincidence. The good guys have it.
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If there is any (Military) Top Secret information surrounding these servers in any way, no public release is possible, and cover stories are required by all the parties involved!
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I think that if she knows it happened she knows who has them, it just might be she's not at liberty to say.
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Any bets on how many new clients attorneys across the country took on by 2 pm today?


Rudy didn’t say it specifically, but he laid out how many people in several states would have HAD to taken part in this fraud and “if you know something you should come forward..”.

I took that to mean low level government employees should step forward and spill it before we come after you.

I know Q said “No Deals” but I interpreted this as applying to “the big fish”.
Some outlying county clerk in Michigan giving testimony about who asked them to steal votes would be useful. The more low level snitches, the easier it is to win your case I’d suspect.
 Quoting: President-elect Fly Over Land


Yes, then she said the DoJ was going to be pursuing this soon if not already. It was pretty clear, come in and help us help you or you go down with the ship.

She also said basically they were going to be cleaning house, from bottom to top. A LOT of people are fixing to have a rather unpleasant reality check.

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I think that if she knows it happened she knows who has them, it just might be she's not at liberty to say.
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Maybe they know who has the server, but they don’t know if they are good guys or bad guys yet?

Could this be why the Special Ops has been brought under military control?
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Did Rudy say they may need an agency to oversee the FBI

If so , awesome
 Quoting: SystemsS


Yes, I caught that too. That alone is HUGE! It means the FBI is so compromised, that it can't function... same with CIA... that's why they direct report to the Military now.

I also saw Rudy's laugh when Sidney said "good guys or bad guys". If they said, yes we have them... that would let the enemy make a countermove... better to keep them guessing.
 Quoting: DarkStalker74


Then again the whole sever thing could be a bluff.

A magnificent bluff.

Lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75986842


Didn't Gohmert state early on that he and Trump had been talking on an unsecured line (yeah right...), and mention of the servers was let slip in the convo... leading up to the seizure?

What if he and Trump are trolling the hell out of the Deep State on this!!

You want some fake news?
... they will serve it up for the Deep State nice and Hot!!!

And ECW could have already harvested the data from the servers long ago... it is not necessary to have the hardware in possession to do that. hahahaha!! It can be done remotely, and he would be the wizard to know how to pull it off!

He already told us he outsmarted them!

SO yeah... jokes on them if they (see-aye-eh) hired out this server heist!!
What... thinking it will save their ass!! lololololol!!!

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Rudy didn’t say it specifically, but he laid out how many people in several states would have HAD to taken part in this fraud and “if you know something you should come forward..”.

I took that to mean low level government employees should step forward and spill it before we come after you.

I know Q said “No Deals” but I interpreted this as applying to “the big fish”.
Some outlying county clerk in Michigan giving testimony about who asked them to steal votes would be useful. The more low level snitches, the easier it is to win your case I’d suspect.
 Quoting: President-elect Fly Over Land


I expect everyone involved from bottom to top watched this conference and many, many thousands it took to pull off are shitting their collective britches.
 Quoting: duFontaine.


Those at the top can't tell the underlings like corrupt poll workers to hold the line and promise them attorneys.

Once the line breaks --and it will and has ---the whole fucking house of fraud comes tumbling down.

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