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solarbliss User ID: 76560363 United States 11/21/2020 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After four interminable years of feeling like turkeys who’d been stuffed full with Donald Trump—his voice in our ears, his tweets waking us, his erratic moods and feuds dominating all that passed as political news—we find ourselves now in this strange interregnum. Having spent years training ourselves to ignore that which threatened to consume us, we are faced with the fact that even his vanquished ghost will not leave. Yes, Donald Trump has lost the election (hasty reframe: Joe Biden has won the election!) No, there is nothing Rudy Giuliani can do to change that outcome in the courts (hasty reframe: The courts have batted down almost every single lawsuit Rudy has filed!). And yes, in a few short weeks we will mercifully never, ever, need to have this man occupy all of this space in our brains again. Quoting: LoneStarRising But for now, how much space in our brains should he continue to take up? How do we deal with an artlessly attempted coup that is formidable yet somehow not literal? Can we ignore him into oblivion—a move that hasn’t worked yet over the course of five years? How are we back to the same debate about whether this is a catastrophe for democracy or a nothing? And does the power to make that decision rest with us in the first place? After all, this long national nightmare is meant to be over. Right? Right? So why is it still playing, in its endless variations, on a loop? For starters, we have spent the past four years in an abusive relationship with this man, and that doesn’t simply end. One hesitates to proffer the analogy, but as his niece, Mary Trump, has observed, the most dangerous time in any abusive relationship comes when the victim attempts to leave. One of the reasons it is not quite possible to exhale, more than two weeks after the election has ended, is because Donald Trump refuses to concede. That’s his problem. But in the meantime, do we really have to watch him rage and tweet, bouncing off the walls of the White House in a fury, and expending whatever capital that remains to him playing with the troops, and firing everyone who brings a lick of stability to the current, rather perilous situation, and working fiendishly to disadvantage Biden’s transition team? Having lost in the courts, his new work evidently lies in emboldening obscure local election boards to nullify their voting tallies, calling them on the phone to exert pressure, inviting them to the White House. That means that even postelection we are still stress monkeys. He still has eight weeks remaining in which to break things and burn things down. [link to www.msn.com (secure)] liberalism is a serious mental illness |
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nimmerfall User ID: 72716118 United States 11/21/2020 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not the sleeping giant that these assholes have to worry about. Quoting: President-Elect BFD It's the highly-motivated and highly-armed 1% of this nation that have been waiting for this shit to froth up to the surface with great intent for the past decade or two. They have no clue who they're dealing with. I believe the percentage is slightly higher than 1%. Piercing my heart there is a golden dagger; that is God Piercing God's heart there is a golden needle; that is me |
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President-Elect Vision Thing User ID: 79559413 United States 11/21/2020 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To me, Trump is behaving like 5 year-old kid. Quoting: Hardtrocity He simply can't accept things have to change. Like massive voter fraud? No, his followers are convinced in this false conspiracy theory. Just like he won in 2016. Than he got lucky and was batter. Now he has lost and have to accept it. English as a second language much? |
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bidenwon User ID: 78886966 United States 11/21/2020 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God did not choose Biden, The hysterical far left media chose Biden. They live in a fantasy and they continuously support the fake media's charade of the day. Their biased and misleading narratives used to promote and publicize their political point of views are failing. They have always failed! If Troy Trainer, the US Federal Election Commission Chairman, if Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell says the 2020 US election is illegitimate due to widespread fraud than that is what the courts will have to determine. Not the hysterical far left media who will not publish and spin the facts and truth. Quoting: MrCoolone If God DIDN'T want Biden to be president he wouldn't be. bidenwon |
Furrry Pete User ID: 8330458 United States 11/21/2020 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Furrry Pete So in your mind which is better, Communism and genocide or freedom and individualism, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Something in between. Socialism is bad because you are equal to each other but you have a party who dictates what you will do with your life. Capitalims is also bad because you have a feeling of liberty and possibilities, but at the moment you lose your job and health insurance you are left on the street sick and like some sort of "criminal". My opinion is that there has to be another system where people work hard but at the same time feel fine, secured, wealthy, healthy and happy. You will never be happy, the happiest people I know are evaluating and improving themselves and others each and every day. The libtards like yourself, continuously use false claims, only to discredit others, only to stay in control, not to improve, but too drag society down to their level. I personally don't want society to be bad, I want it to be more advanced but it's hard to achieve when everyone is against you and don't see you true potential. I do believe most if not all of Trump's followers are against endless wars that take away from developing our potential. We could do so much more for the country and the citizenry with all the money that goes to waste on them. Big Pharma hurts the medical welfare of people, it doesn't help us. Donald Trump was changing that, we personally would be greatly benefitted as would everyone who needs insulin for example. Neocons and warmongers, starting with the amoral and greedy Clintons ruined this country. It went off the rails when it went for Empire, raiding and dismantling nations and stealing their wealth, and that's what they are now trying to do to us. They're global pirates. Last Edited by Furrry Pete on 11/21/2020 07:31 PM "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
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MrCoolone User ID: 33106931 United States 11/21/2020 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God did not choose Biden, The hysterical far left media chose Biden. They live in a fantasy and they continuously support the fake media's charade of the day. Their biased and misleading narratives used to promote and publicize their political point of views are failing. They have always failed! If Troy Trainer, the US Federal Election Commission Chairman, if Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell says the 2020 US election is illegitimate due to widespread fraud than that is what the courts will have to determine. Not the hysterical far left media who will not publish and spin the facts and truth. Quoting: MrCoolone If God DIDN'T want Biden to be president he wouldn't be. Old Slow China Joe is not even president elect. |
nimmerfall User ID: 72716118 United States 11/21/2020 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do believe most if not all of Trump's followers are against endless wars that take away from developing our potential. We could do so much more for the country and the citizenry with all the money that goes to waste on them. Quoting: Furrry Pete Big Pharma hurts the medical welfare of people, it doesn't help us. Donald Trump was changing that, we personally would be greatly benefitted as would everyone who needs insulin for example. Neocons and warmongers, starting with the amoral and greedy Clintons ruined this country. It went off the rails when it went for Empire, raiding and dismantling nations and stealing their wealth, and that's what they are now trying to do to us. They're global pirates. 1. Ending endless wars 2. Bringing back some industry and self-sufficiency are the two biggest issues that he can address, and has addressed. One thing this COVID business should have made clear, but didn't really seem to, is how much pharmaceutical mfg takes place overseas. Like almost all of it. We need to make our own medicine, and we need to manufacture more of our own stuff. I don't know why this shouldn't be more obvious. Piercing my heart there is a golden dagger; that is God Piercing God's heart there is a golden needle; that is me |
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Augustman User ID: 79477155 United States 11/21/2020 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God did not choose Biden, The hysterical far left media chose Biden. They live in a fantasy and they continuously support the fake media's charade of the day. Their biased and misleading narratives used to promote and publicize their political point of views are failing. They have always failed! If Troy Trainer, the US Federal Election Commission Chairman, if Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell says the 2020 US election is illegitimate due to widespread fraud than that is what the courts will have to determine. Not the hysterical far left media who will not publish and spin the facts and truth. Quoting: MrCoolone God did not choose anyone because in reality God doesn't even exist just like Jesus. It's just a DOGMA your head is filled in. Time to shut up now commie 🐸 your low level comments don't highlight today's reality, or a future Trump Victory. Try smiling it will help. |
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Phillip J. Fry User ID: 79225945 United States 11/21/2020 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of the Coup Participants will be like this Fellow ... Fools, Justly To Their Folly ... . "Don't do anything that affects anything. Unless it turns out you were supposed to do it, in which case for the love of God. Don't not do it!" |
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Furrry Pete User ID: 8330458 United States 11/21/2020 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do believe most if not all of Trump's followers are against endless wars that take away from developing our potential. We could do so much more for the country and the citizenry with all the money that goes to waste on them. Quoting: Furrry Pete Big Pharma hurts the medical welfare of people, it doesn't help us. Donald Trump was changing that, we personally would be greatly benefitted as would everyone who needs insulin for example. Neocons and warmongers, starting with the amoral and greedy Clintons ruined this country. It went off the rails when it went for Empire, raiding and dismantling nations and stealing their wealth, and that's what they are now trying to do to us. They're global pirates. 1. Ending endless wars 2. Bringing back some industry and self-sufficiency are the two biggest issues that he can address, and has addressed. One thing this COVID business should have made clear, but didn't really seem to, is how much pharmaceutical mfg takes place overseas. Like almost all of it. We need to make our own medicine, and we need to manufacture more of our own stuff. I don't know why this shouldn't be more obvious. Yes, when the US controlled medicine, they didn't release new drugs without extensive testing. Now about 99 per cent of advertising on tv is for untested drugs, you tell your doctor what you need, lol, especially if you or someone you love has died from them. "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
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Furrry Pete User ID: 8330458 United States 11/21/2020 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She's pretty homely looking. Just a typical blood lusting Bolshevik "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Reaching User ID: 21965859 United States 11/21/2020 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After four interminable years of feeling like turkeys who’d been stuffed full with Donald Trump—his voice in our ears, his tweets waking us, his erratic moods and feuds dominating all that passed as political news—we find ourselves now in this strange interregnum. Having spent years training ourselves to ignore that which threatened to consume us, we are faced with the fact that even his vanquished ghost will not leave. Yes, Donald Trump has lost the election (hasty reframe: Joe Biden has won the election!) No, there is nothing Rudy Giuliani can do to change that outcome in the courts (hasty reframe: The courts have batted down almost every single lawsuit Rudy has filed!). And yes, in a few short weeks we will mercifully never, ever, need to have this man occupy all of this space in our brains again. Quoting: LoneStarRising But for now, how much space in our brains should he continue to take up? How do we deal with an artlessly attempted coup that is formidable yet somehow not literal? Can we ignore him into oblivion—a move that hasn’t worked yet over the course of five years? How are we back to the same debate about whether this is a catastrophe for democracy or a nothing? And does the power to make that decision rest with us in the first place? After all, this long national nightmare is meant to be over. Right? Right? So why is it still playing, in its endless variations, on a loop? For starters, we have spent the past four years in an abusive relationship with this man, and that doesn’t simply end. One hesitates to proffer the analogy, but as his niece, Mary Trump, has observed, the most dangerous time in any abusive relationship comes when the victim attempts to leave. One of the reasons it is not quite possible to exhale, more than two weeks after the election has ended, is because Donald Trump refuses to concede. That’s his problem. But in the meantime, do we really have to watch him rage and tweet, bouncing off the walls of the White House in a fury, and expending whatever capital that remains to him playing with the troops, and firing everyone who brings a lick of stability to the current, rather perilous situation, and working fiendishly to disadvantage Biden’s transition team? Having lost in the courts, his new work evidently lies in emboldening obscure local election boards to nullify their voting tallies, calling them on the phone to exert pressure, inviting them to the White House. That means that even postelection we are still stress monkeys. He still has eight weeks remaining in which to break things and burn things down. [link to www.msn.com (secure)] Much anticipated rubbish from the left. Forgetting Trump for a moment, the Liberal/Socialist class of the Left desperately wishes upon a star that 70-80 million Trump voters would just disappear. There is a thing called justice; and another being truth, and yet another is corruption, and not last nor least is treason. The Left wants all the investigations of their lawlessness, lies, corruption, duplicitous treason and more to just go away. They pick their leaders from the bottom of a 55-gallon trashcan conveniently situated between a sea of public restrooms and a humongous seafood market. Trump Team ain't going anywhere princess. Buckle-up or you will most certainly get whiplash on a platter. F-you people and the horse you rode in on. |
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Keilani User ID: 77232079 United States 11/21/2020 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God did not choose Biden, The hysterical far left media chose Biden. They live in a fantasy and they continuously support the fake media's charade of the day. Their biased and misleading narratives used to promote and publicize their political point of views are failing. They have always failed! If Troy Trainer, the US Federal Election Commission Chairman, if Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell says the 2020 US election is illegitimate due to widespread fraud than that is what the courts will have to determine. Not the hysterical far left media who will not publish and spin the facts and truth. Quoting: MrCoolone |
Deafy Wickware User ID: 79280147 United States 11/21/2020 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When this is all done, they will come for us. My powder is dry and I'm ready for it. Quoting: Astromut And with his telescopes, we will have AMPLE warning of their approach! :-) Last Edited by IAMTHATGUY on 11/21/2020 07:56 PM "Peace in our time? All it took was everybody about to die." “The way I see it, there’s only three kinds of people in this world. Bad ones, ones you follow, and ones you need to protect.” - Amos Burton |
egads! User ID: 79231772 United States 11/21/2020 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To me, Trump is behaving like 5 year-old kid. Quoting: Hardtrocity He simply can't accept things have to change. Like massive voter fraud? No, his followers are convinced in this false conspiracy theory. Just like he won in 2016. Than he got lucky and was batter. Now he has lost and have to accept it. watch something besides cnn international All who call on the name of the Lord will be saved. Acts 2:21 Remember it. A simple Save me Lord Jesus makes all the difference when you're facing the wrong side of eternity. 2/8 Fav Song: HIS NAME IS JESUS [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
egads! User ID: 79231772 United States 11/21/2020 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She's pretty homely looking. why does it always come down to disparaging peoples looks? like you guys look any better stop acting like teenagers All who call on the name of the Lord will be saved. Acts 2:21 Remember it. A simple Save me Lord Jesus makes all the difference when you're facing the wrong side of eternity. 2/8 Fav Song: HIS NAME IS JESUS [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
Inquiring Mind User ID: 78794302 United States 11/21/2020 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After four interminable years of feeling like turkeys who’d been stuffed full with Donald Trump—his voice in our ears, his tweets waking us, his erratic moods and feuds dominating all that passed as political news—we find ourselves now in this strange interregnum. Having spent years training ourselves to ignore that which threatened to consume us, we are faced with the fact that even his vanquished ghost will not leave. Yes, Donald Trump has lost the election (hasty reframe: Joe Biden has won the election!) No, there is nothing Rudy Giuliani can do to change that outcome in the courts (hasty reframe: The courts have batted down almost every single lawsuit Rudy has filed!). And yes, in a few short weeks we will mercifully never, ever, need to have this man occupy all of this space in our brains again. Quoting: LoneStarRising But for now, how much space in our brains should he continue to take up? How do we deal with an artlessly attempted coup that is formidable yet somehow not literal? Can we ignore him into oblivion—a move that hasn’t worked yet over the course of five years? How are we back to the same debate about whether this is a catastrophe for democracy or a nothing? And does the power to make that decision rest with us in the first place? After all, this long national nightmare is meant to be over. Right? Right? So why is it still playing, in its endless variations, on a loop? For starters, we have spent the past four years in an abusive relationship with this man, and that doesn’t simply end. One hesitates to proffer the analogy, but as his niece, Mary Trump, has observed, the most dangerous time in any abusive relationship comes when the victim attempts to leave. One of the reasons it is not quite possible to exhale, more than two weeks after the election has ended, is because Donald Trump refuses to concede. That’s his problem. But in the meantime, do we really have to watch him rage and tweet, bouncing off the walls of the White House in a fury, and expending whatever capital that remains to him playing with the troops, and firing everyone who brings a lick of stability to the current, rather perilous situation, and working fiendishly to disadvantage Biden’s transition team? Having lost in the courts, his new work evidently lies in emboldening obscure local election boards to nullify their voting tallies, calling them on the phone to exert pressure, inviting them to the White House. That means that even postelection we are still stress monkeys. He still has eight weeks remaining in which to break things and burn things down. [link to www.msn.com (secure)] This is how I felt for 8 years of Obama. Inquiring Mind |