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It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say

 
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
Over these last few weeks, we've seen accusations from the Trump team, "bombshell reports," and "biblical" evidence that was going to supposedly win it for Trump.

Yet every time Trump gets into court, they have nothing to show and get laughed out of the court.

When this happens, people in here claim there's some 5D chess game going on and he's trying to hop, skip, and jump to the win, despite ~6 million Americans voting in favor of the other guy.

I've supported Trump throughout his entire Presidency and I really put a lot of faith his business acumen and his ability to lead a team, but the dismissiveness of voters and our Democratic processes (what few of them there are) has really churned my stomach.

It would be one thing if Biden and Trump didn't reach 270 and it went to the House. It would be one thing if Trump's legal team showed evidence of widespread fraud and not anecdotal, stitched events, and overblown pressers.

But based on the press conference he gave today, his move to allow the transition process to go ahead (despite conspiracies claiming this is now 5D-3D checkers-chess), and his demeanor, it is clear to me that it really is over.

Now we regroup, push for candidates that further represent us and even push Biden away from any extremist agenda he may have in store.

Sorry to say it, but it's over.
 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8


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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
Over these last few weeks, we've seen accusations from the Trump team, "bombshell reports," and "biblical" evidence that was going to supposedly win it for Trump.

Yet every time Trump gets into court, they have nothing to show and get laughed out of the court.

When this happens, people in here claim there's some 5D chess game going on and he's trying to hop, skip, and jump to the win, despite ~6 million Americans voting in favor of the other guy.

I've supported Trump throughout his entire Presidency and I really put a lot of faith his business acumen and his ability to lead a team, but the dismissiveness of voters and our Democratic processes (what few of them there are) has really churned my stomach.

It would be one thing if Biden and Trump didn't reach 270 and it went to the House. It would be one thing if Trump's legal team showed evidence of widespread fraud and not anecdotal, stitched events, and overblown pressers.

But based on the press conference he gave today, his move to allow the transition process to go ahead (despite conspiracies claiming this is now 5D-3D checkers-chess), and his demeanor, it is clear to me that it really is over.

Now we regroup, push for candidates that further represent us and even push Biden away from any extremist agenda he may have in store.

Sorry to say it, but it's over.
 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8


So does this mean there isn’t REAL EVIDENCE of voting fraud like they SAID and SHOWED DAILY via several hundred actual sworn AFFIDAVITS?
.
.

Or does this mean that evidence suddenly means NOTHING when it comes to Presidential elections....
.
*Now it’s one of those two, so WHICH IS IT?
.
.
(If it’s the first, then WOW what BS SMOKE that was blown up everyone/ all your @sses that was ever since the day after the election!!!!)
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Affidavits aren't evidence under most circumstances. Courts consider them hearsay unless exceptions are made.

So far, not a single exception has been granted.
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
Bush v. Gore was over 500 votes in one State. SCOTUS won't touch this.
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Exactly, but the hopium crowd wants to believe they will for some strange reason.

I really just don't understand their need to "hold on" for dear life.

This is what Democracy looks like.

 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8


4 years of media sabotage
followed by media election of the president
is NOT what "democracy looks like" and
only a complete imbecile/shill would utter
such ignorance.
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OP is shill turd.

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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
Over these last few weeks, we've seen accusations from the Trump team, "bombshell reports," and "biblical" evidence that was going to supposedly win it for Trump.

Yet every time Trump gets into court, they have nothing to show and get laughed out of the court.

When this happens, people in here claim there's some 5D chess game going on and he's trying to hop, skip, and jump to the win, despite ~6 million Americans voting in favor of the other guy.

I've supported Trump throughout his entire Presidency and I really put a lot of faith his business acumen and his ability to lead a team, but the dismissiveness of voters and our Democratic processes (what few of them there are) has really churned my stomach.

It would be one thing if Biden and Trump didn't reach 270 and it went to the House. It would be one thing if Trump's legal team showed evidence of widespread fraud and not anecdotal, stitched events, and overblown pressers.

But based on the press conference he gave today, his move to allow the transition process to go ahead (despite conspiracies claiming this is now 5D-3D checkers-chess), and his demeanor, it is clear to me that it really is over.

Now we regroup, push for candidates that further represent us and even push Biden away from any extremist agenda he may have in store.

Sorry to say it, but it's over.
 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8


So does this mean there isn’t REAL EVIDENCE of voting fraud like they SAID and SHOWED DAILY via several hundred actual sworn AFFIDAVITS?
.
.

Or does this mean that evidence suddenly means NOTHING when it comes to Presidential elections....
.
*Now it’s one of those two, so WHICH IS IT?
.
.
(If it’s the first, then WOW what BS SMOKE that was blown up everyone/ all your @sses that was ever since the day after the election!!!!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79645601


Affidavits aren't evidence under most circumstances. Courts consider them hearsay unless exceptions are made.

So far, not a single exception has been granted.
 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8


OP is a shill turd.

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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
He wont concede
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Would you??
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
Bush v. Gore was over 500 votes in one State. SCOTUS won't touch this.
 Quoting: Monty Python


Exactly, but the hopium crowd wants to believe they will for some strange reason.

I really just don't understand their need to "hold on" for dear life.

This is what Democracy looks like.

 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8


4 years of media sabotage
followed by media election of the president
is NOT what "democracy looks like" and
only a complete imbecile/shill would utter
such ignorance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79511239


OP is shill turd.

"Joined On 11/5/2020 9:19 PM"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79511239


I've been an AC for a long time - got membership because they blocked ACs.
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
You have 5 days here under your belt.

How much is the DNC paying you?
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
SCOTUS will need to throw some broad strokes.

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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
Over these last few weeks, we've seen accusations from the Trump team, "bombshell reports," and "biblical" evidence that was going to supposedly win it for Trump.

Yet every time Trump gets into court, they have nothing to show and get laughed out of the court.

When this happens, people in here claim there's some 5D chess game going on and he's trying to hop, skip, and jump to the win, despite ~6 million Americans voting in favor of the other guy.

I've supported Trump throughout his entire Presidency and I really put a lot of faith his business acumen and his ability to lead a team, but the dismissiveness of voters and our Democratic processes (what few of them there are) has really churned my stomach.

It would be one thing if Biden and Trump didn't reach 270 and it went to the House. It would be one thing if Trump's legal team showed evidence of widespread fraud and not anecdotal, stitched events, and overblown pressers.

But based on the press conference he gave today, his move to allow the transition process to go ahead (despite conspiracies claiming this is now 5D-3D checkers-chess), and his demeanor, it is clear to me that it really is over.

Now we regroup, push for candidates that further represent us and even push Biden away from any extremist agenda he may have in store.

Sorry to say it, but it's over.
 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8


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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
if its over for trump biden will do so much damage to the usa you will not ever have freedom like you have period,then the west will fall to migrants even more in the west with no buffer ,welcome to hell on earth
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
You have 5 days here under your belt.

How much is the DNC paying you?
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Again, I've been here for a year or more. Joined because glp started blocking ACs.

Not only that but I too was hoping for Trump to overturn the votes because he kept saying there was fraud.

Yet to-date, no evidence of widespread fraud has been presented in court. Huge difference between SAYING there's evidence and PRODUCING evidence.
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
Globalism is here and the American way of life is done for if Trump loses. Kerry said we must erase populism. This global 'transition ' will make covid look like joke. Tens of millions get crushed in this movement. Hyper inflation takes the forefront, neighbors kill neighbors so they can eat their dog. Check out Venezuela. S0r0s wants us crushed. So the crushing will take place
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I often thought.. If he isn't re-elected, then the already tanking MSM numbers will fall to abysmal numbers even more so. It isn't in their best interest.

After whatever happens, and whoever is sworn in(if that even happens, it IS 2020) it's tiddlywinks and mass shootings and boring crap and no ratings. Sure feels like FF time.....
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
Over these last few weeks, we've seen accusations from the Trump team, "bombshell reports," and "biblical" evidence that was going to supposedly win it for Trump.

Yet every time Trump gets into court, they have nothing to show and get laughed out of the court.

When this happens, people in here claim there's some 5D chess game going on and he's trying to hop, skip, and jump to the win, despite ~6 million Americans voting in favor of the other guy.

I've supported Trump throughout his entire Presidency and I really put a lot of faith his business acumen and his ability to lead a team, but the dismissiveness of voters and our Democratic processes (what few of them there are) has really churned my stomach.

It would be one thing if Biden and Trump didn't reach 270 and it went to the House. It would be one thing if Trump's legal team showed evidence of widespread fraud and not anecdotal, stitched events, and overblown pressers.

But based on the press conference he gave today, his move to allow the transition process to go ahead (despite conspiracies claiming this is now 5D-3D checkers-chess), and his demeanor, it is clear to me that it really is over.

Now we regroup, push for candidates that further represent us and even push Biden away from any extremist agenda he may have in store.

Sorry to say it, but it's over.
 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8


They are on a tight time schedule. The only way to get to the Supreme court is to lose in lower courts. So you dont want to even go to trial in lesser courts, you WANT your cases dismissed.
The real evidence will only come out to SCOTUS.
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
You have 5 days here under your belt.

How much is the DNC paying you?
 Quoting: T3OTWAWKI


Again, I've been here for a year or more. Joined because glp started blocking ACs.

Not only that but I too was hoping for Trump to overturn the votes because he kept saying there was fraud.

Yet to-date, no evidence of widespread fraud has been presented in court. Huge difference between SAYING there's evidence and PRODUCING evidence.
 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8


Youre compromised, dramatic shilltastic thread comrade.take your weak spine and go work on others that lack fortitude
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
Over these last few weeks, we've seen accusations from the Trump team, "bombshell reports," and "biblical" evidence that was going to supposedly win it for Trump.

Yet every time Trump gets into court, they have nothing to show and get laughed out of the court.

When this happens, people in here claim there's some 5D chess game going on and he's trying to hop, skip, and jump to the win, despite ~6 million Americans voting in favor of the other guy.

I've supported Trump throughout his entire Presidency and I really put a lot of faith his business acumen and his ability to lead a team, but the dismissiveness of voters and our Democratic processes (what few of them there are) has really churned my stomach.

It would be one thing if Biden and Trump didn't reach 270 and it went to the House. It would be one thing if Trump's legal team showed evidence of widespread fraud and not anecdotal, stitched events, and overblown pressers.

But based on the press conference he gave today, his move to allow the transition process to go ahead (despite conspiracies claiming this is now 5D-3D checkers-chess), and his demeanor, it is clear to me that it really is over.

Now we regroup, push for candidates that further represent us and even push Biden away from any extremist agenda he may have in store.

Sorry to say it, but it's over.
 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8


So does this mean there isn’t REAL EVIDENCE of voting fraud like they SAID and SHOWED DAILY via several hundred actual sworn AFFIDAVITS?
.
.

Or does this mean that evidence suddenly means NOTHING when it comes to Presidential elections....
.
*Now it’s one of those two, so WHICH IS IT?
.
.
(If it’s the first, then WOW what BS SMOKE that was blown up everyone/ all your @sses that was ever since the day after the election!!!!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79645601


Affidavits aren't evidence under most circumstances. Courts consider them hearsay unless exceptions are made.

So far, not a single exception has been granted.
 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8


You are tying to use logic to argue with brainwashed members of cult 45. It is impossible to break them of their delusions. They are mostly low IQ rednecks.
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
1: you aren't sorry to say it.

2: you have no understanding of how the courts work.

3: even if you do know how the courts work you aren't applying any logic to this situation.

The courts they are in have liberals with an agenda as judges. They don't want these courts anyway, they want the supreme Court. To get to the supreme Court the cases in the lower courts have to be tossed out so they can be appealed to a higher court.

In order to ensure that they present evidence that is just compelling enough to warrant an appeal but not compelling enough that the lower courts will rule in favor of them.

They want to overturn the whole election, not just what was counted in any one particular county or state. That is why this isn't over, not even close to it.
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Now we regroup, push for candidates that further represent us and even push Biden away from any extremist agenda he may have in store.
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lol, you just can't get enough of the abusive cycle of supporting sociopaths only to be constantly disappointed by them.
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
Over these last few weeks, we've seen accusations from the Trump team, "bombshell reports," and "biblical" evidence that was going to supposedly win it for Trump.

Yet every time Trump gets into court, they have nothing to show and get laughed out of the court.

When this happens, people in here claim there's some 5D chess game going on and he's trying to hop, skip, and jump to the win, despite ~6 million Americans voting in favor of the other guy.

I've supported Trump throughout his entire Presidency and I really put a lot of faith his business acumen and his ability to lead a team, but the dismissiveness of voters and our Democratic processes (what few of them there are) has really churned my stomach.

It would be one thing if Biden and Trump didn't reach 270 and it went to the House. It would be one thing if Trump's legal team showed evidence of widespread fraud and not anecdotal, stitched events, and overblown pressers.

But based on the press conference he gave today, his move to allow the transition process to go ahead (despite conspiracies claiming this is now 5D-3D checkers-chess), and his demeanor, it is clear to me that it really is over.

Now we regroup, push for candidates that further represent us and even push Biden away from any extremist agenda he may have in store.

Sorry to say it, but it's over.
 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8


So does this mean there isn’t REAL EVIDENCE of voting fraud like they SAID and SHOWED DAILY via several hundred actual sworn AFFIDAVITS?
.
.

Or does this mean that evidence suddenly means NOTHING when it comes to Presidential elections....
.
*Now it’s one of those two, so WHICH IS IT?
.
.
(If it’s the first, then WOW what BS SMOKE that was blown up everyone/ all your @sses that was ever since the day after the election!!!!)
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Affidavits aren't evidence under most circumstances. Courts consider them hearsay unless exceptions are made.

So far, not a single exception has been granted.
 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8



Affidavits represent eye witness testimony.

Those eye witnesses will testify.

That is evidence in a court of law.
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You have insane muslims in Europe cutting people's heads off in churches. When Biden allows the mass movement into the US of these people we will be living in a hell on Earth. Rashida Talieb said in 10 years under a democratic rejuvenation the United States will be Muslim
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
Republicans retained senate, more republicans in the house, definitely shows ballot stuffing. The election was stolen and it needs to be proven.
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I'm sorry to say, but trumpettes and the orange slob got it in the ass for good
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I'm still holding out hope.

You've got a guy in Georgia going over the voter rolls and findng people who said there "apartment 201" was actually PO Box 201 and they even used the actual Post Office address. Those votes will have to get thrown out. So I think GA could flip.

PA MI and WI ... who knows.
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
1: you aren't sorry to say it.

2: you have no understanding of how the courts work.

3: even if you do know how the courts work you aren't applying any logic to this situation.

The courts they are in have liberals with an agenda as judges. They don't want these courts anyway, they want the supreme Court. To get to the supreme Court the cases in the lower courts have to be tossed out so they can be appealed to a higher court.

In order to ensure that they present evidence that is just compelling enough to warrant an appeal but not compelling enough that the lower courts will rule in favor of them.

They want to overturn the whole election, not just what was counted in any one particular county or state. That is why this isn't over, not even close to it.
 Quoting: Catalyst4Thought


I'm well aware of what he's trying to do, but his lack of evidence speaks volumes.

My problem is that he's banking on the shills he put into the SCOTUS to overturn things for no reason other than "I appointed you."

That's the part that really churns my stomach. That is not democracy and if he succeeds, our country will forever be damaged as a result.

And I'm well aware of how our courts work. Far more than most in this forum.
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Rudy G. will take to the SCOTUS, among many other things, many instances in several states of exactly the problem back in 2000 and reason Bush won the chad argument there.
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Bush v. Gore was over 500 votes in one State. SCOTUS won't touch this.
 Quoting: Monty Python

And this is over 100's of thousands of ballots in several states that are illegitimate.

You don't think scotus will find the evidence showing ballot dumps and vote flipping in several states compelling?

You don't think they will find thousands upon thousands of registered voters who used a mailbox as an apt address in Ga compelling?

You don't think they will find the 250k mail in ballots in Pa that were opened prior to election day in violation of the law compelling?

We'll know when Alito rules in the 3rd circuit what is most likely to happen. If he says the lead is too insurmountable, then maybe you're right. But if he excoriates Pa and allows it to proceed....
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Over these last few weeks, we've seen accusations from the Trump team, "bombshell reports," and "biblical" evidence that was going to supposedly win it for Trump.

Yet every time Trump gets into court, they have nothing to show and get laughed out of the court.

When this happens, people in here claim there's some 5D chess game going on and he's trying to hop, skip, and jump to the win, despite ~6 million Americans voting in favor of the other guy.

I've supported Trump throughout his entire Presidency and I really put a lot of faith his business acumen and his ability to lead a team, but the dismissiveness of voters and our Democratic processes (what few of them there are) has really churned my stomach.

It would be one thing if Biden and Trump didn't reach 270 and it went to the House. It would be one thing if Trump's legal team showed evidence of widespread fraud and not anecdotal, stitched events, and overblown pressers.

But based on the press conference he gave today, his move to allow the transition process to go ahead (despite conspiracies claiming this is now 5D-3D checkers-chess), and his demeanor, it is clear to me that it really is over.

Now we regroup, push for candidates that further represent us and even push Biden away from any extremist agenda he may have in store.

Sorry to say it, but it's over.
 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8


So does this mean there isn’t REAL EVIDENCE of voting fraud like they SAID and SHOWED DAILY via several hundred actual sworn AFFIDAVITS?
.
.

Or does this mean that evidence suddenly means NOTHING when it comes to Presidential elections....
.
*Now it’s one of those two, so WHICH IS IT?
.
.
(If it’s the first, then WOW what BS SMOKE that was blown up everyone/ all your @sses that was ever since the day after the election!!!!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79645601


Affidavits aren't evidence under most circumstances. Courts consider them hearsay unless exceptions are made.

So far, not a single exception has been granted.
 Quoting: M8k3Am3ric@Gr8



Affidavits represent eye witness testimony.

Those eye witnesses will testify.

That is evidence in a court of law.
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Eye witnesses are not evidence by themselves. Again, Affidavits are not evidence. Not all affidavits were "eye witnesses" that saw anything. Many of the affidavits they offered were of people saying they heard someone talking about someone else that saw something.

No, I'm not kidding either.

Or, "I saw a Biden van unloading boxes!"

If you believe those things to be evidence of voter fraud, well I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
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VOAT MOAR HARDER.
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Over these last few weeks, we've seen accusations from the Trump team, "bombshell reports," and "biblical" evidence that was going to supposedly win it for Trump.

Yet every time Trump gets into court, they have nothing to show and get laughed out of the court.

When this happens, people in here claim there's some 5D chess game going on and he's trying to hop, skip, and jump to the win, despite ~6 million Americans voting in favor of the other guy.

I've supported Trump throughout his entire Presidency and I really put a lot of faith his business acumen and his ability to lead a team, but the dismissiveness of voters and our Democratic processes (what few of them there are) has really churned my stomach.

It would be one thing if Biden and Trump didn't reach 270 and it went to the House. It would be one thing if Trump's legal team showed evidence of widespread fraud and not anecdotal, stitched events, and overblown pressers.

But based on the press conference he gave today, his move to allow the transition process to go ahead (despite conspiracies claiming this is now 5D-3D checkers-chess), and his demeanor, it is clear to me that it really is over.

Now we regroup, push for candidates that further represent us and even push Biden away from any extremist agenda he may have in store.

Sorry to say it, but it's over.
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So you're just going to roll over in the face of blatent fraud that threatens our voting process forevermore? You'd allow the entire populace of the United States to go unrepresented and without a voice in the face of an authoratarian regime?

You're not an American, I have no words for what you are.
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
I'm sorry to say, but trumpettes and the orange slob got it in the ass for good
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French anonymous coward, oh the irony!
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Re: It really is over for Trump, I'm sorry to say
Its not over. This was obvious FRAUD and you know it too. Here in America we dont allow others to win by cheating. Its not how we roll. Soon there will be dead leftests everywhere. I cant wait!





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