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So you think they are not out to get you? Look what FireFox is doing!

 
Vision Thing

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11/25/2020 10:48 PM

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I just want people to know.. I've held onto FF for too many years. I think this breaks the faith with me. They can call it many names, it is still bad faith in my book.
 Quoting: We Who Watch.


I stopped using it years ago because it kept freezing my machines. I switched to Pale Moon which is a stripped down, independent fork of Firefox.

I used Pale Moon almost exclusively for many years but now I use Brave a lot especially for YouTube and I use Opera too because it is efficient.
 Quoting: Vision Thing

I'm trying to find out who are the backend people on Opera.. China?
 Quoting: We Who Watch.


Opera was developed in Norway and it is still headquartered in Oslo, but I think it did get bought or partially bought by Chinese money. However I think they operate like a Norwegian company. And the Opera browser for the phone seems to work really well.
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11/25/2020 10:53 PM
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Because those Ivy League schools are globalist indoctrination camps that pretend to produce great people who get high level government jobs and work for multinationals. They have the audacity to puppet those people around as oracles and learned men.
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Don't rich kids parents just buy the diploma?
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11/26/2020 12:51 AM
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Do you know anyone that has read all the code?
 Quoting: Weyoun

THIS ^^^

"Open source" for a huge project such as Firefox - does it mean anything?

Theory may be beautiful but practice is often very different. Rules are flaunted, errors are made......it is not at all what it seems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79291427


That code is scrutinized daily by thousands of people across the world and that doesn't even include all of the people looking at all the forks of it.

The "open source means nothing" people are way off base.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79676515


So, ultimately, you're still trusting random strangers, unless you've read all the code yourself.
 Quoting: Weyoun

This is what it comes down to.
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11/26/2020 12:53 AM
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I just want people to know.. I've held onto FF for too many years. I think this breaks the faith with me. They can call it many names, it is still bad faith in my book.
 Quoting: We Who Watch.


I stopped using it years ago because it kept freezing my machines. I switched to Pale Moon which is a stripped down, independent fork of Firefox.

I used Pale Moon almost exclusively for many years but now I use Brave a lot especially for YouTube and I use Opera too because it is efficient.
 Quoting: Vision Thing

I'm trying to find out who are the backend people on Opera.. China?
 Quoting: We Who Watch.


Opera was developed in Norway and it is still headquartered in Oslo, but I think it did get bought or partially bought by Chinese money. However I think they operate like a Norwegian company. And the Opera browser for the phone seems to work really well.
 Quoting: Vision Thing

It is not really the same browser anymore. Apart from the fact that the user interacts not in the same way with Opera anymore (a lot of stuff has changed), there is also something with Chrome, a partnership of some sort I think. The extensions Opera uses now are Chrome extensions.
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11/26/2020 12:56 AM
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One or more of the original developers of Opera simply left the Opera project, and one has developed a new browser (I forgot its name). Brave comes to mind but I don't think this is the one. I think it's Vivaldi.
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11/26/2020 01:07 AM
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I used Firefox in the 2000s. I was such a believer. How disappointing.
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That's where I am now. I have stubbornly used it forever, but must now choose another.
 Quoting: We Who Watch.

Get a bit acquainted with Pale Moon and Waterfox. They are Firefox similes, but have their own characteristics. Pale Moon in particular is nifty and fast and has its own extensions. But I effectively trashed it for Waterfox anyway, a couple or 3 years ago, for some reason.

Now I have been noticing Waterfox is not all it claims to be either. Whatever.

But it's good to try out different browser IMO, and also to be able to switch when the need arises. I might go back to Waterfox, Opera or even Firefox temporarily if I see a need or if I think it might be useful.

Right now I use Brave a lot, in conjunction with Waterfox - alternating with Edge and even Internet Explorer every so often.
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11/26/2020 01:11 AM
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Not sure yet if duckduckgo browser is truly safe.
 Quoting: We Who Watch.

What is it based on?
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11/26/2020 01:19 AM
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So...use Brave browser?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77994864


In June 2020 this was said of Brave:

"Brave, the privacy-focused Chromium browser from Mozilla co-founder and JavaScript creator Brendan Eich, has come under fire for automatically redirecting URLs typed into the browser's address bar to a version of the URL it profits from. "

[link to www.zdnet.com (secure)]
 Quoting: We Who Watch.


Brave has a feature called "Brave Rewards".

I find it annoying more than anything else, but it is supposed to let you earn some money in some way. You'll find out if you use it. Until now all I earned is about 1 or 2 US$, lol... it might be more useful to you than it is to me, who knows.
DodgerFan

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11/26/2020 01:19 AM
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I've been using Brave browser for about 2 years now. I'm not crazy about it but I like it better than Chrome of Firefox.

And it gives you some cryptocurrency every month to keep using it. Adds up to about 3 or 4 dollars a month, just for using the browser.

If GLP ever registered with brave, I could donate all my Brave Rewards to it.
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11/26/2020 01:29 AM
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Wow !!! I just cut and pasted "purple haired lesbo that runs firefox" into bing and instead of getting a pic of the one who runs firefox it came up with lesbo porn.

I'll never do that again.
 Quoting: Minnie Kitty

Try Google?
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11/26/2020 01:39 AM
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I thought Firefox was open source so how will the public not know what the code does???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79681793

By now they don't care. They have their 30% of the market or whatever it is.
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11/26/2020 01:45 AM
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What about Vivaldi? Been using that for a while along with Brave.
 Quoting: Joby

I used Vivaldi for a while years ago. At one moment, on opening the browser I had lost my previous browser session, and all my open tabs were gone.

I didn't dare use it as my everyday browser since that time.
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11/26/2020 01:48 AM
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i think it's time we moved to tor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73891874

But what browser are you going to use? Tor is not a browser. If you use Tor Browser, it comes with Firefox.
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11/26/2020 02:01 AM
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I use Bing as a search engine for the rewards program it has. Just sign up for a microsoft email and you get reward points. You can also link it to your phone searches for even more. Last year I cashed out for $110 in amazon gift cards which is damn amazing since it's as close to free money for doing nothing as you'll get. You can't get actual cash but there are tons of other gift cards you can get with it

For a browser I use Microsoft Edge, they just released a totally new version that came out of beta only like six months ago. It's really good. Has a beautiful dark mode theme. It's not nearly as much of a resource hog like Chrome or Firefox either which is very important for me as I multitask often with CPU/GPU/memory intensive tasks.

No idea what they mean from a privacy standpoint but let's be honest - if I'm using Windows I'm sure Microsoft already has backend access anyway.
We Who Watch.  (OP)

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11/28/2020 06:08 PM
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bumpy for more ideas.
I exist.
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11/28/2020 08:15 PM
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I just want people to know.. I've held onto FF for too many years. I think this breaks the faith with me. They can call it many names, it is still bad faith in my book.
 Quoting: We Who Watch.


I stopped using it years ago because it kept freezing my machines. I switched to Pale Moon which is a stripped down, independent fork of Firefox.

I used Pale Moon almost exclusively for many years but now I use Brave a lot especially for YouTube and I use Opera too because it is efficient.
 Quoting: Vision Thing

I'm trying to find out who are the backend people on Opera.. China?
 Quoting: We Who Watch.


Opera was developed in Norway and it is still headquartered in Oslo, but I think it did get bought or partially bought by Chinese money. However I think they operate like a Norwegian company. And the Opera browser for the phone seems to work really well.
 Quoting: Vision Thing

If it's some Chinese, It's Chinese. Like it or not.
I exist.
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11/28/2020 08:32 PM
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:firefoxpc:
 Quoting: We Who Watch.


Just don't join the study.
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:firefoxpc:
 Quoting: We Who Watch.

Princeton? The origin of the Urantia Book.





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