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PCR tests. How they "work" and what you aren't being told.

 
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No, I'm not saying that they should be ignored, I am saying that they should NOT be blindly trusted and followed.

Every criminal social engineering experiment such as Communism and Nazism was also supported by an army of "experts" and "scientists".
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It's NOT "blindly"! They have reached the pinnacle of their fields and are in agreement with all the others who have reached that level!


YOU are the one blindly following any "Doctor" just because they echo your beliefs. That's fucking insane!

Experts and scientists are just that...not some evil group of people who are trying to establish a new society! Of course experts are consulted by those in power! Do you people actually read the drivel you post?! Holy shit this is fucking nuts!
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You "conveniently" ignored the second part of my post. The scientists supporting Nazism and Communism also "reached the pinnacle of their fields and were in agreement with all the others who had reached that level" in the societies of their time. They were also trusted as "experts" back then. And look at the results!
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I didn't ignore it, stupid.

Who do you expect world leaders to consult?! Non-expwrts or non-scientists?!

The experts you mention didn't IMPLIMENT the atrocities! And in a dictatorship, experts will often placate the dictator and be yesmen...or die.

You are comparing apples and oranges...

Unless you actually believe that experts are being addressed now to hurt US citizens...which is just paranoid drivel!

It's like you people need ZERO evidence to form opinions. It's insane! It means you believe what you WANT to believe, not what makes sense to believe.
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brah you cannot fix a 'system player...' no matter how hard you try.. but I know you are trying to prove to the rest of us.. for that.. thanks.
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No, I'm not saying that they should be ignored, I am saying that they should NOT be blindly trusted and followed.

Every criminal social engineering experiment such as Communism and Nazism was also supported by an army of "experts" and "scientists".
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It's NOT "blindly"! They have reached the pinnacle of their fields and are in agreement with all the others who have reached that level!


YOU are the one blindly following any "Doctor" just because they echo your beliefs. That's fucking insane!

Experts and scientists are just that...not some evil group of people who are trying to establish a new society! Of course experts are consulted by those in power! Do you people actually read the drivel you post?! Holy shit this is fucking nuts!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78416540


You "conveniently" ignored the second part of my post. The scientists supporting Nazism and Communism also "reached the pinnacle of their fields and were in agreement with all the others who had reached that level" in the societies of their time. They were also trusted as "experts" back then. And look at the results!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79479833


I didn't ignore it, stupid.

Who do you expect world leaders to consult?! Non-expwrts or non-scientists?!

The experts you mention didn't IMPLIMENT the atrocities! And in a dictatorship, experts will often placate the dictator and be yesmen...or die.

You are comparing apples and oranges...

Unless you actually believe that experts are being addressed now to hurt US citizens...which is just paranoid drivel!

It's like you people need ZERO evidence to form opinions. It's insane! It means you believe what you WANT to believe, not what makes sense to believe.
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I have trouble discussing any subject with someone that keeps insulting me. Do you really need that? Goodbye! Have a nice day!
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And rightfully so! Experts are also people, subject to the same prejudices and political agendas as anyone else. Why should we blindly trust "experts"? Experts according to whom?

Your answer points to the fact that you were very effectively brainwashed to always "trust the authorities", regardless of what is really happening.

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You think experts in their field are "authorities" and should be ignored because of that?!?!

Holy fucking retard!

What makes them experts?!Education and testing, actual lab space! Several degrees in the proper fields, the opinions of OTHER real experts.

Funny that you'll accept ANYONE as truthful, as long as they side with your beliefs!

Confirmation bias owns you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78416540


No, I'm not saying that they should be ignored, I am saying that they should NOT be blindly trusted and followed.

Every criminal social engineering experiment such as Communism and Nazism was also supported by an army of "experts" and "scientists".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79479833


It's NOT "blindly"! They have reached the pinnacle of their fields and are in agreement with all the others who have reached that level!


YOU are the one blindly following any "Doctor" just because they echo your beliefs. That's fucking insane!

Experts and scientists are just that...not some evil group of people who are trying to establish a new society! Of course experts are consulted by those in power! Do you people actually read the drivel you post?! Holy shit this is fucking nuts!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78416540


You dumb ass! Being an expert in a field does not exclude those "experts" from being evil bastards and using their expert knowledge in evil ways. That is what you are missing. People have a right to question the experts who DO have agendas. For example, take the MMR vaccine that causes many cases of autism. Even though there have been court cases won that it actually did cause autism, many so called "experts" keep saying the MMR vaccine has no connection to autism. The agenda? Even if you give these "experts" the benefit of the doubt and say they are well meaning, the fact they want to stop disease at the expense of causing autism in children, is NOT ok with people who are affected. They have a RIGHT to know the truth and the "experts" are NOT going to tell the truth. THEREFORE, you will have to do your own research because MANY experts say it DOES cause autism. So which expert do YOU choose to believe? In your case, I imagine it boils down to which one is most convenient to you.

What is your agenda that makes you want people to stop questioning? If you believe in the testing then go get tested and live your life with your head up your ass until your favorite expert tells you the test is flawed. You can follow Fauci on twatter and get the confirmation you need that all is well. Just don't expect thinking people to put the same blinders on so you can feel "good" that everyone in your world has been tested and is covid free. You could always just stay home and you will be safe.
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And rightfully so! Experts are also people, subject to the same prejudices and political agendas as anyone else. Why should we blindly trust "experts"? Experts according to whom?

Your answer points to the fact that you were very effectively brainwashed to always "trust the authorities", regardless of what is really happening.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79479833


You think experts in their field are "authorities" and should be ignored because of that?!?!

Holy fucking retard!

What makes them experts?!Education and testing, actual lab space! Several degrees in the proper fields, the opinions of OTHER real experts.

Funny that you'll accept ANYONE as truthful, as long as they side with your beliefs!

Confirmation bias owns you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78416540


No, I'm not saying that they should be ignored, I am saying that they should NOT be blindly trusted and followed.

Every criminal social engineering experiment such as Communism and Nazism was also supported by an army of "experts" and "scientists".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79479833


It's NOT "blindly"! They have reached the pinnacle of their fields and are in agreement with all the others who have reached that level!


YOU are the one blindly following any "Doctor" just because they echo your beliefs. That's fucking insane!

Experts and scientists are just that...not some evil group of people who are trying to establish a new society! Of course experts are consulted by those in power! Do you people actually read the drivel you post?! Holy shit this is fucking nuts!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78416540


But that's the rub: THE EXPERTS DONT ALL AGREE.

Doctors, like all other professions, are people. People that are capable of being evil, having ulterior motives, taking bribes (known as "funding" in scientific circles), doing bad things for "good reasons", etc, etc.

The biggest difference between the experts that agree the PCR test as implemented is very accurate and is a good diagnostic tool and those who don't is the media "experts" only talk about the former and disregard the latter.

So when Shelly Sheep is watching the nightly news or clicking a CNN link, all they hear and see is how great all this testing is, and how accurate it is (except for the footnotes that mention the false positive rate).

They don't read the articles, they don't check the info being fed to them. They just accept the headlines and move along.

Same as you are doing.
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Its a crock and you're monkeys. That simple.
(Gyawd dam)
Does anybody get yet that acting like "a good and happy child" when you're 30 is a despicable mental illness?
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So they supposedly made a vaccine for this but they still have not invented a test that detects the actual virus. It's all nonsense. I say this as someone who had covid already. There is some sort of illness and it is very contagious but there is a reason they haven't made a test that identifies the actual virus.
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A guy at walmart(I know, lol) said the symptoms are identical to anthrax which is every countries bio weapon of choice. I said to him NOBODY knows what it is they had to say something or the public would be more bonkers than they are now. He could be right but he is just guessing just like everyone else. I am just going to sit back because nothing you can do if the pros don't even know how the fuck are we non med folks supposed to know and does it matter at this point. IT is what it is whatever it is. We all have a date we are going bye bye so I can't sit and worry about it. I was gonna go naturally or in some shitty way like everyone before and after me. Just sit and try to get SOME fun because I think we only go around once anyways. If we die and that is it and nothing after none of this bullshit matters either way. I don't go religitard because I don't believe a LOVING and CARING being would allow this shit. They made all this and can't put a stop to evil fucks or is this loving and caring daddy in the sky really a twisted, evil sick being who enjoys watching this suffering bullshit? NOBODY KNOWS THE TRUTH ABOUT ANYTHING. Maybe daddy in the sky is tired of his toy and toy soilders (us) and unleashed some virus so he can get on with his next design. Fuck the dinosaurs now fuck the human, hmmm what do I want to play with now?
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The maddening part is the people who never had it get to brag that they had covid and had no SYMPTOMS. They tell everyone that covid is a joke.


But the people who actually have it who get false negatives , get to be treated like crap by so called medical professionals and the fake asymptomatic crowd. While they are fighting for their life

Stop workshipping the tests!!
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PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war.
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Yes, we hear you, Communist. Freedom to speak is an awful thing in your world.

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No, I'm not saying that they should be ignored, I am saying that they should NOT be blindly trusted and followed.

Every criminal social engineering experiment such as Communism and Nazism was also supported by an army of "experts" and "scientists".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79479833


It's NOT "blindly"! They have reached the pinnacle of their fields and are in agreement with all the others who have reached that level!


YOU are the one blindly following any "Doctor" just because they echo your beliefs. That's fucking insane!

Experts and scientists are just that...not some evil group of people who are trying to establish a new society! Of course experts are consulted by those in power! Do you people actually read the drivel you post?! Holy shit this is fucking nuts!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78416540


You "conveniently" ignored the second part of my post. The scientists supporting Nazism and Communism also "reached the pinnacle of their fields and were in agreement with all the others who had reached that level" in the societies of their time. They were also trusted as "experts" back then. And look at the results!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79479833


I am not even telling you not to trust them! But please don't try to force me to follow your ways. To each his own! Go on, trust them and live with the consequences. For my part, I will exercise my God-given capability of critical thinking. I will trust people when they deserve trust and I will be cautious of them when they don't deserve to be trusted. And I will live with the consequences, responsibly as a free man.
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But WHY don't you trust them, is the best question. Because experts have been involved in evil schemes on the past?

That is called paranoia!

I'm not asking or forcing you to do anything...but, I support the rights of those who do comply to not be harassed by morons who don't. Come near me without a mask, pay the price.

I'm also a "free man". I don't see any of this as infringement of my freedom, I look at it as my patriotic duty to my fellow Americans. Just like when I drive on the right side if the road! It is no more infringing than that! Yet, whiny pussies have to blow it all out of proportion, pathetically!
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PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war.
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lies, lies and more lies.

the maker and the labs using the pcr test, make clear it is not a method of diagnosis.
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It is a test to deprive chosen citizens of rights. Rights to elective procedures, rights to shop, rights to leave your home, etc.
I exist.
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I’m in NC. My local news actually reported on this. In NC our labs are running the testing through over 30 times!! I tried to post the link once and I got banned so I won’t try that again.
Anyway they interviewed scientists who confirmed we are getting MANY
false positives because of the labs running the dna samples through over and over and over again.
And NC is ran by a democratic governor. No surprise!
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Y'all do realize that Guv Cooper has been, probably still is, burning up the phone lines talking w/ Dr. Fake-ass, right?

Yeah, NC and more specifically the RTP area is home to a lot of big pharma companies.

Also remember that the roots of this designer virus 'Rona can be traced back to a lab at UNC-Chapel Hill yrs ago.

And what a shit show it's been at the local test sites! Major traffic jams, fender benders and near miss accidents w/ frightened sheeple trying to get tested before the holidays.
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I have family in NC and Cooper is just as bad as Newsom in CA. For tests in NC, they're actually running a minimum 35 cycles, just once. Anything detected under the great ambiguous net of deception of a 35 CT is declared a "positive" case. Colleagues of mine who also study cov2 data on a daily basis propose that at least half of all of NC's "positive cases" are either people running around with dead RNA OR who are outright true false positives as a result of wonky signals via a high amplification run. NC is corrupt as hell.
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Are you saying they spin the one test 35x or they test sample 35x us non medical ppl don't get it. How many times does it need run or spun. What do you think it is?
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No, says Dr. Wilson.

He will tell you his credentials. Ask him! He's approachable and willing to discuss facts with those interested in truth.

It's funny how morons whine about tainted science and then accept nonsense from anyone who calls himself "Doctor".

It's hilarious! I'll bet you don't even understand the concept of confirmation bias.

Please see his channel. He addresses much about what you claim...and it doesn't look good for your side.

Ignore if you're too afraid to be schooled...like all right wingers.
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If you have a specific beef with what the OP has stated regarding CT values and PCR tests in general, then instead of posting random accusations void of facts, perhaps you should post something that actually supports your counter position. I'd be more than happy to be your huckleberry if you really want to get into this.
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Why?! What a waste of fucking time! I KNOW I won't be believed! But, an actual documented expert in the exact field is a good place to send people, isn't it?!

What the fuck is wrong with you? I posted the info...the morons will ignore it and those who are interested in the path to truth will give it a try.

"Random accusations"?!?!?

Am I calling people "pedos" or something?! What accusations have I made?! I have made observations.

I encounter enough Huckleberrys on this site...no need for another.
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Dr Wilson?? A fucking ngger with a 10 pound afro and 9 month old YT account? That's your expert "source"? LMAO!!
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You think experts in their field are "authorities" and should be ignored because of that?!?!

Holy fucking retard!

What makes them experts?!Education and testing, actual lab space! Several degrees in the proper fields, the opinions of OTHER real experts.

Funny that you'll accept ANYONE as truthful, as long as they side with your beliefs!

Confirmation bias owns you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78416540


No, I'm not saying that they should be ignored, I am saying that they should NOT be blindly trusted and followed.

Every criminal social engineering experiment such as Communism and Nazism was also supported by an army of "experts" and "scientists".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79479833


It's NOT "blindly"! They have reached the pinnacle of their fields and are in agreement with all the others who have reached that level!


YOU are the one blindly following any "Doctor" just because they echo your beliefs. That's fucking insane!

Experts and scientists are just that...not some evil group of people who are trying to establish a new society! Of course experts are consulted by those in power! Do you people actually read the drivel you post?! Holy shit this is fucking nuts!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78416540


But that's the rub: THE EXPERTS DONT ALL AGREE.

Doctors, like all other professions, are people. People that are capable of being evil, having ulterior motives, taking bribes (known as "funding" in scientific circles), doing bad things for "good reasons", etc, etc.

The biggest difference between the experts that agree the PCR test as implemented is very accurate and is a good diagnostic tool and those who don't is the media "experts" only talk about the former and disregard the latter.

So when Shelly Sheep is watching the nightly news or clicking a CNN link, all they hear and see is how great all this testing is, and how accurate it is (except for the footnotes that mention the false positive rate).

They don't read the articles, they don't check the info being fed to them. They just accept the headlines and move along.

Same as you are doing.
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I am gonna take a nice vacation after we " experts" put you butt kissers in the box.
You are actually bickering over a "new and improved trick" and its still bullsh*t just the same.

Makes me feel dizzy and like the satanists will pull up laughing "Come on get in. You really did a good job? You tried and tried to save the good meat like you were supposed to. Shift is over! Buffet time!"
I dont want it to be "global". Global es schizen
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You think experts in their field are "authorities" and should be ignored because of that?!?!

Holy fucking retard!

What makes them experts?!Education and testing, actual lab space! Several degrees in the proper fields, the opinions of OTHER real experts.

Funny that you'll accept ANYONE as truthful, as long as they side with your beliefs!

Confirmation bias owns you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78416540


No, I'm not saying that they should be ignored, I am saying that they should NOT be blindly trusted and followed.

Every criminal social engineering experiment such as Communism and Nazism was also supported by an army of "experts" and "scientists".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79479833


It's NOT "blindly"! They have reached the pinnacle of their fields and are in agreement with all the others who have reached that level!


YOU are the one blindly following any "Doctor" just because they echo your beliefs. That's fucking insane!

Experts and scientists are just that...not some evil group of people who are trying to establish a new society! Of course experts are consulted by those in power! Do you people actually read the drivel you post?! Holy shit this is fucking nuts!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78416540


But that's the rub: THE EXPERTS DONT ALL AGREE.

Doctors, like all other professions, are people. People that are capable of being evil, having ulterior motives, taking bribes (known as "funding" in scientific circles), doing bad things for "good reasons", etc, etc.

The biggest difference between the experts that agree the PCR test as implemented is very accurate and is a good diagnostic tool and those who don't is the media "experts" only talk about the former and disregard the latter.

So when Shelly Sheep is watching the nightly news or clicking a CNN link, all they hear and see is how great all this testing is, and how accurate it is (except for the footnotes that mention the false positive rate).

They don't read the articles, they don't check the info being fed to them. They just accept the headlines and move along.

Same as you are doing.
 Quoting: Philly Special


No, some "Doctors" don't agree! Experts in the EXACT sciences centered around virus and vaccines, are in complete agreement. Fringe lunatics are not agreeing and that's who morons flock to! Its fucking crazy!

I wrote about Doctor Wilson and his videos about PCR and you chose to ignore it, as I knew many would. You have no evidence that this man has any other motive than to help people.

Go to youtube Debunk the Funk, or not! I don't care!

You nuts and your crazy accusations embarrass the USA.
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Can someone please define a cycle?
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way I understand it is this PCR was designed and created to grow small amounts of DNA, into large amounts of DNA for study and testing. the cycle is the speed of which this growth happens in a lab. the faster the cycle or reaction the more DNA it creates, therefore the test gives a positive, the less DNA it indicates no sign of a infection. it can't test for covid-19 only for signs you have an increase of DNA growth which happens to be a sign your body has been or is fighting an infection. again this test is being used falsely to scare people for no good reason. there should be lawsuits by now?

the more research from companies like LAB Corp., which do these PCR test of people, excuse themselves from law recourse by posting that a negative result from the test doesn't mean you have or don't have covid-19?....but, I bet they still don't give the money back to the government...LOL. it's a how to get rich scam on the public, and used to scare the foolish.
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Thank you
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It's NOT "blindly"! They have reached the pinnacle of their fields and are in agreement with all the others who have reached that level!


YOU are the one blindly following any "Doctor" just because they echo your beliefs. That's fucking insane!

Experts and scientists are just that...not some evil group of people who are trying to establish a new society! Of course experts are consulted by those in power! Do you people actually read the drivel you post?! Holy shit this is fucking nuts!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78416540


You "conveniently" ignored the second part of my post. The scientists supporting Nazism and Communism also "reached the pinnacle of their fields and were in agreement with all the others who had reached that level" in the societies of their time. They were also trusted as "experts" back then. And look at the results!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79479833


I am not even telling you not to trust them! But please don't try to force me to follow your ways. To each his own! Go on, trust them and live with the consequences. For my part, I will exercise my God-given capability of critical thinking. I will trust people when they deserve trust and I will be cautious of them when they don't deserve to be trusted. And I will live with the consequences, responsibly as a free man.
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But WHY don't you trust them, is the best question. Because experts have been involved in evil schemes on the past?

That is called paranoia!

I'm not asking or forcing you to do anything...but, I support the rights of those who do comply to not be harassed by morons who don't. Come near me without a mask, pay the price.

I'm also a "free man". I don't see any of this as infringement of my freedom, I look at it as my patriotic duty to my fellow Americans. Just like when I drive on the right side if the road! It is no more infringing than that! Yet, whiny pussies have to blow it all out of proportion, pathetically!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78416540


Can't you read? I never said I don't trust them by system. I said that I don't necessarily trust them just because they are experts. Some of the people saying that the PCR tests are being fraudulently used in this case are also experts and know what they are saying!
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The model of the virus is based on lies as well, and according to the CDC, there is no available isolate, so no reason to get wrapped up in all the nonsense regarding testing, and HCQ this and Ivermectin that.

The virus does not exist.
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It's NOT "blindly"! They have reached the pinnacle of their fields and are in agreement with all the others who have reached that level!


YOU are the one blindly following any "Doctor" just because they echo your beliefs. That's fucking insane!

Experts and scientists are just that...not some evil group of people who are trying to establish a new society! Of course experts are consulted by those in power! Do you people actually read the drivel you post?! Holy shit this is fucking nuts!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78416540


You "conveniently" ignored the second part of my post. The scientists supporting Nazism and Communism also "reached the pinnacle of their fields and were in agreement with all the others who had reached that level" in the societies of their time. They were also trusted as "experts" back then. And look at the results!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79479833


I am not even telling you not to trust them! But please don't try to force me to follow your ways. To each his own! Go on, trust them and live with the consequences. For my part, I will exercise my God-given capability of critical thinking. I will trust people when they deserve trust and I will be cautious of them when they don't deserve to be trusted. And I will live with the consequences, responsibly as a free man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79479833


But WHY don't you trust them, is the best question. Because experts have been involved in evil schemes on the past?

That is called paranoia!

I'm not asking or forcing you to do anything...but, I support the rights of those who do comply to not be harassed by morons who don't. Come near me without a mask, pay the price.

I'm also a "free man". I don't see any of this as infringement of my freedom, I look at it as my patriotic duty to my fellow Americans. Just like when I drive on the right side if the road! It is no more infringing than that! Yet, whiny pussies have to blow it all out of proportion, pathetically!
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Covid19 the new cult of the Lucifers.
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No, says Dr. Wilson.

He will tell you his credentials. Ask him! He's approachable and willing to discuss facts with those interested in truth.

It's funny how morons whine about tainted science and then accept nonsense from anyone who calls himself "Doctor".

It's hilarious! I'll bet you don't even understand the concept of confirmation bias.

Please see his channel. He addresses much about what you claim...and it doesn't look good for your side.

Ignore if you're too afraid to be schooled...like all right wingers.
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If you have a specific beef with what the OP has stated regarding CT values and PCR tests in general, then instead of posting random accusations void of facts, perhaps you should post something that actually supports your counter position. I'd be more than happy to be your huckleberry if you really want to get into this.
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Why?! What a waste of fucking time! I KNOW I won't be believed! But, an actual documented expert in the exact field is a good place to send people, isn't it?!

What the fuck is wrong with you? I posted the info...the morons will ignore it and those who are interested in the path to truth will give it a try.

"Random accusations"?!?!?

Am I calling people "pedos" or something?! What accusations have I made?! I have made observations.

I encounter enough Huckleberrys on this site...no need for another.
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Dr Wilson?? A fucking ngger with a 10 pound afro and 9 month old YT account? That's your expert "source"? LMAO!!
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That's the one! And he IS an expert.

Thank you for proving your ignorance and hate.

I'm not surprised.

And what does the age of an account mean?! Do reputable youtube channels have to be old!? Must experts make videos before a certain age?!

You are fucking stupid!
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You "conveniently" ignored the second part of my post. The scientists supporting Nazism and Communism also "reached the pinnacle of their fields and were in agreement with all the others who had reached that level" in the societies of their time. They were also trusted as "experts" back then. And look at the results!
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I am not even telling you not to trust them! But please don't try to force me to follow your ways. To each his own! Go on, trust them and live with the consequences. For my part, I will exercise my God-given capability of critical thinking. I will trust people when they deserve trust and I will be cautious of them when they don't deserve to be trusted. And I will live with the consequences, responsibly as a free man.
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But WHY don't you trust them, is the best question. Because experts have been involved in evil schemes on the past?

That is called paranoia!

I'm not asking or forcing you to do anything...but, I support the rights of those who do comply to not be harassed by morons who don't. Come near me without a mask, pay the price.

I'm also a "free man". I don't see any of this as infringement of my freedom, I look at it as my patriotic duty to my fellow Americans. Just like when I drive on the right side if the road! It is no more infringing than that! Yet, whiny pussies have to blow it all out of proportion, pathetically!
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Covid19 the new cult of the Lucifers.
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Ironic how you mention cult and Lucifers in the same sentence and can't see the comedy!
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You "conveniently" ignored the second part of my post. The scientists supporting Nazism and Communism also "reached the pinnacle of their fields and were in agreement with all the others who had reached that level" in the societies of their time. They were also trusted as "experts" back then. And look at the results!
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I am not even telling you not to trust them! But please don't try to force me to follow your ways. To each his own! Go on, trust them and live with the consequences. For my part, I will exercise my God-given capability of critical thinking. I will trust people when they deserve trust and I will be cautious of them when they don't deserve to be trusted. And I will live with the consequences, responsibly as a free man.
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But WHY don't you trust them, is the best question. Because experts have been involved in evil schemes on the past?

That is called paranoia!

I'm not asking or forcing you to do anything...but, I support the rights of those who do comply to not be harassed by morons who don't. Come near me without a mask, pay the price.

I'm also a "free man". I don't see any of this as infringement of my freedom, I look at it as my patriotic duty to my fellow Americans. Just like when I drive on the right side if the road! It is no more infringing than that! Yet, whiny pussies have to blow it all out of proportion, pathetically!
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Can't you read? I never said I don't trust them by system. I said that I don't necessarily trust them just because they are experts. Some of the people saying that the PCR tests are being fraudulently used in this case are also experts and know what they are saying!
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More hearsay.

Impressive.

Sorry I didn't understand your use of "necessarily ".

Lol
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PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war.
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propoganda
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Thats all you hear in the media..."new cases, new cases" blah blah blah. Well what is a case? what determines a case?....a test? what is this test and how is it conducted?

The PCR test. They obtain a specimen via swab. Then they extract RNA(ribonucleic acid) from that and convert to DNA.

Next this gets AMPLIFIED by PCR with specific primers.

Then they take the results and interpret them based on the presence of viral RNA.

Sounds legit right? Well heres the problem that you can see in their studies and charts regarding how much they're amplifying it. The level of amplification is measured in cycles.

From their own studies and reports, the test is correct at up to 17 cycles. At an amplification of 27 cycles, the rate at which the test is correct drops to 65%. Once they do 33 cycles, now the test is only correct 20% of the time..

At 34 cycles, there is a 0% CHANCE THAT THE RESULT IS CORRECT.

With this information they did another study which took how much its being amplified and what day after you started showing symptoms you took the test. Up to 30 cycles, only being tested on the 3rd day you began showing symptoms, the test is correct 80%t of the time.

At 27 cycles on day 4, the test is correct 60% of the time.
At 17 cycles on day 5, the test is correct 33% of the time.
After day 6, there is a 0% chance the test is correct.

So why is this important? Why am I discussing this?
Even after the CDC did these studies and knows how much they amplify it(cycles) affects the results, and even though they know that when you get tested also affects the results.......they havent changed the tests.

Most PCR tests are being conducted at 40 cycles, some at 37. Im sure most of you can understand what this means.

Here is the link with the chart comparing Amplification(CT) and the accuracy of the test. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Here is the link with the chart showing Amplification and when the test is taken.
[link to www.cebm.net (secure)]

There are now scientists and doctors starting lawsuits around the world to make people aware of this.
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I needed this...excellent!
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It's NOT "blindly"! They have reached the pinnacle of their fields and are in agreement with all the others who have reached that level!


YOU are the one blindly following any "Doctor" just because they echo your beliefs. That's fucking insane!

Experts and scientists are just that...not some evil group of people who are trying to establish a new society! Of course experts are consulted by those in power! Do you people actually read the drivel you post?! Holy shit this is fucking nuts!
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You "conveniently" ignored the second part of my post. The scientists supporting Nazism and Communism also "reached the pinnacle of their fields and were in agreement with all the others who had reached that level" in the societies of their time. They were also trusted as "experts" back then. And look at the results!
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I am not even telling you not to trust them! But please don't try to force me to follow your ways. To each his own! Go on, trust them and live with the consequences. For my part, I will exercise my God-given capability of critical thinking. I will trust people when they deserve trust and I will be cautious of them when they don't deserve to be trusted. And I will live with the consequences, responsibly as a free man.
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But WHY don't you trust them, is the best question. Because experts have been involved in evil schemes on the past?

That is called paranoia!

I'm not asking or forcing you to do anything...but, I support the rights of those who do comply to not be harassed by morons who don't. Come near me without a mask, pay the price.

I'm also a "free man". I don't see any of this as infringement of my freedom, I look at it as my patriotic duty to my fellow Americans. Just like when I drive on the right side if the road! It is no more infringing than that! Yet, whiny pussies have to blow it all out of proportion, pathetically!
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LOL.. a system player selling the system to a woke dude.. NAH!
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I am not even telling you not to trust them! But please don't try to force me to follow your ways. To each his own! Go on, trust them and live with the consequences. For my part, I will exercise my God-given capability of critical thinking. I will trust people when they deserve trust and I will be cautious of them when they don't deserve to be trusted. And I will live with the consequences, responsibly as a free man.
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But WHY don't you trust them, is the best question. Because experts have been involved in evil schemes on the past?

That is called paranoia!

I'm not asking or forcing you to do anything...but, I support the rights of those who do comply to not be harassed by morons who don't. Come near me without a mask, pay the price.

I'm also a "free man". I don't see any of this as infringement of my freedom, I look at it as my patriotic duty to my fellow Americans. Just like when I drive on the right side if the road! It is no more infringing than that! Yet, whiny pussies have to blow it all out of proportion, pathetically!
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Covid19 the new cult of the Lucifers.
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Ironic how you mention cult and Lucifers in the same sentence and can't see the comedy!
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I see the connection but no not the comedy.. seems a tragedy to me.. but there is comedy in everything if you wish to find it I am certain.
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No, some "Doctors" don't agree! Experts in the EXACT sciences centered around virus and vaccines, are in complete agreement. Fringe lunatics are not agreeing and that's who morons flock to! Its fucking crazy!

I wrote about Doctor Wilson and his videos about PCR and you chose to ignore it, as I knew many would. You have no evidence that this man has any other motive than to help people.

Go to youtube Debunk the Funk, or not! I don't care!

You nuts and your crazy accusations embarrass the USA.
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It's safe to say that we don't care either, about your youtube doctor recommendation. The fact that you've repeatedly promoted an extremely biased person named "Dr Funk" or whatever his name is, so aggressively here, tells us everything we need to know about your position. Particularly since you're unable to counter with facts anytime I (or anyone else here) have held your feet to the fire. Next time you wish to fling your horseshit agenda here, come better prepared.
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You "conveniently" ignored the second part of my post. The scientists supporting Nazism and Communism also "reached the pinnacle of their fields and were in agreement with all the others who had reached that level" in the societies of their time. They were also trusted as "experts" back then. And look at the results!
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I am not even telling you not to trust them! But please don't try to force me to follow your ways. To each his own! Go on, trust them and live with the consequences. For my part, I will exercise my God-given capability of critical thinking. I will trust people when they deserve trust and I will be cautious of them when they don't deserve to be trusted. And I will live with the consequences, responsibly as a free man.
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But WHY don't you trust them, is the best question. Because experts have been involved in evil schemes on the past?

That is called paranoia!

I'm not asking or forcing you to do anything...but, I support the rights of those who do comply to not be harassed by morons who don't. Come near me without a mask, pay the price.

I'm also a "free man". I don't see any of this as infringement of my freedom, I look at it as my patriotic duty to my fellow Americans. Just like when I drive on the right side if the road! It is no more infringing than that! Yet, whiny pussies have to blow it all out of proportion, pathetically!
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LOL.. a system player selling the system to a woke dude.. NAH!
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No, you CLAIM you are woke. I don't agree.

I think you are pathetic and paranoid.

I trust the system because I'm not a pussy.


You wouldn't understand that.
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Many experts saying to stop mass testing.

The more you test the more false positives you get.

Apparently 1-2% could be normal and as you involve less trained staff and push the time scales you can get up to 5% false positives.

So in 100,000 tests you could get 1,000 to 5,000 false positives.

The U.K. is testing about 300,000 so 3,000 to 15,000 could just be false!

Tuesday 11,299 cases out of 212,000 tests / hmmmm go do the maths Boris!!!

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Thoughts??
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I’m in NC. My local news actually reported on this. In NC our labs are running the testing through over 30 times!! I tried to post the link once and I got banned so I won’t try that again.
Anyway they interviewed scientists who confirmed we are getting MANY
false positives because of the labs running the dna samples through over and over and over again.
And NC is ran by a democratic governor. No surprise!
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Y'all do realize that Guv Cooper has been, probably still is, burning up the phone lines talking w/ Dr. Fake-ass, right?

Yeah, NC and more specifically the RTP area is home to a lot of big pharma companies.

Also remember that the roots of this designer virus 'Rona can be traced back to a lab at UNC-Chapel Hill yrs ago.

And what a shit show it's been at the local test sites! Major traffic jams, fender benders and near miss accidents w/ frightened sheeple trying to get tested before the holidays.
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I have family in NC and Cooper is just as bad as Newsom in CA. For tests in NC, they're actually running a minimum 35 cycles, just once. Anything detected under the great ambiguous net of deception of a 35 CT is declared a "positive" case. Colleagues of mine who also study cov2 data on a daily basis propose that at least half of all of NC's "positive cases" are either people running around with dead RNA OR who are outright true false positives as a result of wonky signals via a high amplification run. NC is corrupt as hell.
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Are you saying they spin the one test 35x or they test sample 35x us non medical ppl don't get it. How many times does it need run or spun. What do you think it is?
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This may help you: [link to www.johnlocke.org (secure)]
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PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war.
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