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If the vaccine is the mark of the beast, then my pre-trib rapture belief was wrong. Could the mid-trib rapture theory be correct?

 
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If the vaccine is the mark of the beast, then my pre-trib rapture belief was wrong. Could the mid-trib rapture theory be correct?
To put this where all of you can understand.

Most like myself believed in a pre-tribulation rapture.

This is when all Christians are "caught up" before all hell breaks loose on the earth. That is the normal accepted view. Movies like Left Behind are made from this theory. Then those left behind, have to live through hell with the antichrist in power, but can still go to heaven as a Tribulation Saint.

Tribulation period is for 7 years. The pre trib Rapture happens before, or at the beginning of this. It's the 7 yr peace treaty the antichrist confirms with Israel.

Some believe in a mid-trib rapture.


That's when all go through 3 1/2 years of the 7. Then somewhere in the middle, people vanish...the Rapture.

It's called the GREAT TRIBULATION & last 3 & 1/2 years of pure hell.

It's when the mark of the beast is introduced...

It's when the antichrist commits the Abomination of Desolation. (Or when antichrist goes into newly created Temple in Jerusalem to claim that HE IS GOD. The ultimate blasphemy.)

It's also when the antichrist kills the 2 witnesses. Who have been spreading the word of God since the beginning of the tribulation period. (Or for 3 & 1/2 years up to that point)

Anyways...my point?

If the vaccine truly is the mark of the beast, then we have already been in the tribulation & there's been no rapture yet.

So either it's immenant & could be any day? Since the vaccine is about to go world wide?

Or the vaccine is NOT the mark of the beast.


If it is the mark of the beast, then where are the 2 witnesses.

Is Israel complete on building the temple?

Im just asking... maybe someone has better & more info than me.

I'm a Nazarene, btw.
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To put this where all of you can understand.

Most like myself believed in a pre-tribulation rapture.

This is when all Christians are "caught up" before all hell breaks loose on the earth. That is the normal accepted view. Movies like Left Behind are made from this theory. Then those left behind, have to live through hell with the antichrist in power, but can still go to heaven as a Tribulation Saint.

Tribulation period is for 7 years. The pre trib Rapture happens before, or at the beginning of this. It's the 7 yr peace treaty the antichrist confirms with Israel.

Some believe in a mid-trib rapture.


That's when all go through 3 1/2 years of the 7. Then somewhere in the middle, people vanish...the Rapture.

It's called the GREAT TRIBULATION & last 3 & 1/2 years of pure hell.

It's when the mark of the beast is introduced...

It's when the antichrist commits the Abomination of Desolation. (Or when antichrist goes into newly created Temple in Jerusalem to claim that HE IS GOD. The ultimate blasphemy.)

It's also when the antichrist kills the 2 witnesses. Who have been spreading the word of God since the beginning of the tribulation period. (Or for 3 & 1/2 years up to that point)

Anyways...my point?

If the vaccine truly is the mark of the beast, then we have already been in the tribulation & there's been no rapture yet.

So either it's immenant & could be any day? Since the vaccine is about to go world wide?

Or the vaccine is NOT the mark of the beast.


If it is the mark of the beast, then where are the 2 witnesses.

Is Israel complete on building the temple?

Im just asking... maybe someone has better & more info than me.

I'm a Nazarene, btw.
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pre trib rapture is a Jesuit doctrine
mid trib rapture is wrong
Matthew 24 tribulation happened in 70 AD.
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Lord Yahshua will come at an appointed time, and judging by revelation, ww3, and nwo will be in place at the moment of his coming. So, have to wait for a little
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I think the rapture is misinterpreted. The people of God won't ascend into heaven when the mark comes or mid or post but God will protect us from any tribulation on Earth will be raptured from it.
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The pre trib rapture was invented by Darby about 170 years ago to explain his invention of dispensationalism.
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I think the rapture is misinterpreted. The people of God won't ascend into heaven when the mark comes or mid or post but God will protect us from any tribulation on Earth will be raptured from it.
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Totally agree with this theory (have to call it a theory as we really don’t have anything to go on to know for sure what is right and what is wrong).

Additionally, my own theory is Jesus will return when Israel is about to be destroyed. That’s His “red line,” if you will.

Tribulation, plagues, pestilence, famine, beheadings, oceans dying...wars and rumors of wars...”witnesses”

We’ve seen all of it all around us. Still going on all around us.

So what will make God decide “It’s Time”?

Like it or not Isr_real is a special place to God. Even now, His hand of protection is on it. When every country turns on them and someone lobs a. NUKE at them, I believe THATS when God calls it game over.

He just won’t allow His Special Place to be destroyed. Read history and you can see how many times and in miraculous ways He’s brought them out of a bad situation when someone tried to destroy them.
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I think the rapture is misinterpreted. The people of God won't ascend into heaven when the mark comes or mid or post but God will protect us from any tribulation on Earth will be raptured from it.
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Totally agree with this theory (have to call it a theory as we really don’t have anything to go on to know for sure what is right and what is wrong).

Additionally, my own theory is Jesus will return when Israel is about to be destroyed. That’s His “red line,” if you will.

Tribulation, plagues, pestilence, famine, beheadings, oceans dying...wars and rumors of wars...”witnesses”

We’ve seen all of it all around us. Still going on all around us.

So what will make God decide “It’s Time”?

Like it or not Isr_real is a special place to God. Even now, His hand of protection is on it. When every country turns on them and someone lobs a. NUKE at them, I believe THATS when God calls it game over.

He just won’t allow His Special Place to be destroyed. Read history and you can see how many times and in miraculous ways He’s brought them out of a bad situation when someone tried to destroy them.
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God always saves at the last moment.

Israel walked out of Egypt at the last moment.

They cross the red sea at the last moment.

Lot was saved just before Sodom was destroyed.

Etc.
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Many are praying about this that I talk to but---

they all feel the same...no one knows for sure

what theory may be correct and the timing of when.


All we do know is---HE WILL KEEP US SAFE FROM THE HOUR.

That is His promise that we will hold onto...
Living has taught me one thing; nothing is certain...except salvation through Jesus Christ!
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Its not the mark. You cant be tricked into taking the Mark of the Beast. You will know.
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Its not the mark. You cant be tricked into taking the Mark of the Beast. You will know.
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Or too blind to see it.
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OP, it would be nice if Jesus came to collect His faithful before He begins pouring out His wrath on the earth, but none of the scripture supports this belief.

In fact, much of the texts talk about God protecting His followers in the wilderness during this period, while many others will be wholesale slaughtered, and their bodies left in the streets to rot.

That can't happen if the faithful are gone.

Preachers do a great injustice by telling congregants to subscribe to pre- or mid-trib ideologies. Revelation clearly shows that Jesus comes once, and calls up the faithful upon His arrival. In fact, Jesus dictated Revelation to John so that the last generation could be spiritually READY for the poop storm.

He didn't dictate it just for curiosity's sake. It was a warning.

When churches promise congregants they will be whisked away before the shtf, they are absolutely ROBBING them spiritually, and are putting them in the precarious position of potentially losing both tgeir faith and their place in heaven.

Pastors SHOULD be teaching a post-trib rapture, so the faithful will be ready for anything. Then, if a pre- or mid-trib rapture does happen (which I highly doubt), it's a glorious surprise.

It is far better to be spiritually armored, than surrounded by the enemy and without God's sword.
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Its not the mark. You cant be tricked into taking the Mark of the Beast. You will know.
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I agree, you will know what you are doing if you take the mark.

OP, I pray pre-trib rapture is true or at a minimum mid-trib. However, the more I read and research, the less I am convinced if a rapture or even God's protection from persecution will occur. I fear many Christians may be greatly disappointed if there is no rapture and may turn away from God. My pray is for rapture or for my faith to e strengthened to deny the mark. I fear many of us in the Western world have had it so easy and rarely been tested that many may stay.
Isaiah 5:20
Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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To put this where all of you can understand.

Most like myself believed in a pre-tribulation rapture.

This is when all Christians are "caught up" before all hell breaks loose on the earth. That is the normal accepted view. Movies like Left Behind are made from this theory. Then those left behind, have to live through hell with the antichrist in power, but can still go to heaven as a Tribulation Saint.

Tribulation period is for 7 years. The pre trib Rapture happens before, or at the beginning of this. It's the 7 yr peace treaty the antichrist confirms with Israel.

Some believe in a mid-trib rapture.


That's when all go through 3 1/2 years of the 7. Then somewhere in the middle, people vanish...the Rapture.

It's called the GREAT TRIBULATION & last 3 & 1/2 years of pure hell.

It's when the mark of the beast is introduced...

It's when the antichrist commits the Abomination of Desolation. (Or when antichrist goes into newly created Temple in Jerusalem to claim that HE IS GOD. The ultimate blasphemy.)

It's also when the antichrist kills the 2 witnesses. Who have been spreading the word of God since the beginning of the tribulation period. (Or for 3 & 1/2 years up to that point)

Anyways...my point?

If the vaccine truly is the mark of the beast, then we have already been in the tribulation & there's been no rapture yet.

So either it's immenant & could be any day? Since the vaccine is about to go world wide?

Or the vaccine is NOT the mark of the beast.


If it is the mark of the beast, then where are the 2 witnesses.

Is Israel complete on building the temple?

Im just asking... maybe someone has better & more info than me.

I'm a Nazarene, btw.
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Covid vaccine is NOT the Mark of the Beast, Pre-trib rapture is Biblical, we will soon see it...
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Midtrib, Pentecost May 23-24, 2021
Hopefully
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I was Raptured to heaven in 1993.

I returned because heaven is a "false light trap" to reincarnate people back to Earth.

I was dragged to Hell in 2003 and survived and returned to Earth.

Neither Heaven nor Hell are the answer.

GOD is THE ANSWER!

We must "Unplug" from Satans Dark Matrix Prison Planet Earth and GOD will arrive to "ASCEND" us home to GODS GOLDEN SPIRITUAL PARADISE KINGDOM to live in Love Glory Happiness Forever!

hf
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Harpazo will happen.This is the test run for the
mark that is coming.Be Ye ready.
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It's not the Mark. You can't be tricked into getting the mark of the beast.
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The pre trib rapture was invented by Darby about 170 years ago to explain his invention of dispensationalism.
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Actually it was invented long before that, Darby is just the most Famous, modern minister to promote it.
It was inferred in writings as early as 90 ad. but directly espoused in writings from 400 AD.
It is an still incorrect doctrine, but Darby did not start it.
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Its not the mark. You cant be tricked into taking the Mark of the Beast. You will know.
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I agree, you will know what you are doing if you take the mark.

OP, I pray pre-trib rapture is true or at a minimum mid-trib. However, the more I read and research, the less I am convinced if a rapture or even God's protection from persecution will occur. I fear many Christians may be greatly disappointed if there is no rapture and may turn away from God. My pray is for rapture or for my faith to e strengthened to deny the mark. I fear many of us in the Western world have had it so easy and rarely been tested that many may stay.
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Read Rev Ch 7.
First the 144,000 are sealed then the "church is raptured".
As it is written: Spiritual thing are to the children of Israel first, then the Gentiles.
This is the best description of the "church" that anyone could yet make:

Rev, 7:9 "After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands"....

13 Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?”

14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”

And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb
...."
Which negates "pre trib", since they come out of the Tribulation.
This point in the book of Revelation is roughly "mid- Trib".
No where else is a group mentioned that resembles the Church.

Revelation was not really written for the Christian, it is there to show how all the Old testament prophecies will be fulfilled to Israel and to show that Jesus is their true Messiah.
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Op I believed like you for decades....until I saw this and all the scripture he showed that proved otherwise beyond any doubt....watch this

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Thread: MORONISM, AMERICA'S RELIGION -UPDATE- Nancy Pelosi & Corporatism

I read this thread yesterday.
One post caught my attention;

===NEW INFO===

(May seem a bit tangential but demonstrates the point, Moronism is people setting themsevles in the line of fire.)

A great vid a bit long (under 30m), definitely worth it, with Dr. Day, a Pediatrician and Planned Parenthood doctor, being explained by a colleague. Apparently the man was quite the insider when it comes to what the New World Order has planned:

@ about 11m30s “New role of Doctors to include euthanasia, and the idea of solo practitioners in medicine will come to an end.”
@ about 12m45s “We can cure just about every type of cancer. (Now, we just won’t.)”
@ about 16m “Religions will be changed. (Vatican II changed Roman Catholicism) Scriptures will have keyword changes made to accomodate a newer, more open religion.”
@ about 17m55s “Classics in literature will be changed.”
@ about 22m20s General idea of the "why" behind the 2 party system of rule (as managed) explained; it is widely applied for societal control in the media.

[link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] (link if pulled)

His comments on the "new attitudes toward sex" are Luciferian in nature - it's not as much about open sexuality and population control as it is about behavioral control. He's a Doctor representing a medical field that TO THIS DAY refuses to link the body's emotional/physical/mental "mood" response to GLANDULAR FUNCTION.

Under-educated people start actually regulating their moods subconsciously with their access to sex in pockets (arousal to orgasm redistributes hormonal distribution throughout the body), but no one notices it, gradually promiscuity is more widely accepted and it's NEVER about wanting kids. - Again, subconsciously (because the body notices it) people become driven to sex to regulate themselves. This isn't religious rhetoric, use one whole food supplement or another to regulate your glandular function (like dong quai or maca - there are several), after about six months you'll notice the difference. They run society into Moronism on purpose.

(Common Luciferian tact is to use withholding sex from newer initiates after they've been mind fcuked by recruiters; Day's comments fit to that culture.)

More on the ground-level view of current affairs:
Thread: INCEPTION, PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS, US & RUSSIA POLICY (Q), THE POST WW2 NAZI *UPDATE* OPs PROVEN WITH TIME
-links to just about anything needed to support the OP available at thread.
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After the mega churches began using 'seeker friendly' business formulas to enhance church growth, there was a change in the gospel messages.
Evangelical leaders cashed in on these crowds who wanted an easier salvation message and a believable doctrine of a pre-trib rapture. Timelines were somewhat standardized to give rapture seekers plausible sequences of events. These studies captivated many and kept the money coming in.

Nobody want to admit that they were duped.
Read the thread at the link. The WORLD is being duped.
Church people think they are immune to deception? That their pastor or religion is free of demonic invasion? This is what brainwashing does - prevents critical thinking.
Read the words of Jesus and see HOW MANY TIMES He warned of deception in our days. Wolves in sheep clothing, doctrines of demons, false prophets and shepherds that fleece the flock. ETC, ETC.
Grace-doctrine believers do not read or obey the words of Jesus. They just don't. They live anyway they want.
Read the comment sections of ministries that teach OSAS and see how they have exchanged Truth for tolerance of sinful lifestyles and behaviors.

The followers of OSAS ministries that reject Jesus' words have been duped. Tricked. They expect to be raptured in their sins and even produce Bible "proof" by quoting verses. They want an easy way to heaven - that's it.
They do not love Jesus. They don't do what He said.
"If you love Me, then obey My words."

Endure, overcome and follow and OBEY Jesus.
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Its not the mark. You cant be tricked into taking the Mark of the Beast. You will know.
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Or too blind to see it.
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An "MRNA" (messenger RNA) is delivered to a cell. It's a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming its own pathogen creator. One of the ingredients is aborted fetus - (Child sacrifice).

In the OT, the enemy fooled people into sacrificing babies in man-made temples. That act of abomination (child sacrifice) means that God would no longer stay with them, leaving them desolate. The enemy would 'win' their worship and souls.

Technology has advanced to AI. The enemy has the tech to fool modern man into the same deception; the abomination (child sacrifice) in INSIDE your body, the Temple. God does not reside in man-made buildings, He resides in your body, which is your temple.
If you give permission to the enemy to enter your body/temple he will never leave, and YOUR OWN BODY will be committing the child sacrifice abomination (aborted fetus) when it replicates cells.
When the shot enters your body it will never leave you, it will replicate itself over & over. This is a microscopic abomination happening in a body/temple that would cause God to leave your temple/body. Leave you desolate.

If this shot becomes a requirement, then only those who accept it will be able to buy food etc.
Jesus warned about deception. He provides all protection to those who belong to Him.
The enemy needs permission to enter your body/temple to Mark you. To make you his own.
Those mega-church pastors who know this information are not telling you because they have 501c3 rules they must abide by. They have advisors that will allow their sheep to be shot and they do not even warn them.

Do you trust your pastor to tell you the TRUTH?
Jesus is THE TRUTH. The WAY TRUTH LIFE.
Follow Him. Find Him. KNOW HIM.
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He has shown you, o man, what is good. And what does the Lord ask of you, but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly before your God?
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It's not the Mark. You can't be tricked into getting the mark of the beast.
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Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

If you are not part of the elect then you can be deceived.

Everyone needs to listen to Paul and not just assume they are chosen.

2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
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He has shown you, o man, what is good. And what does the Lord ask of you, but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly before your God?
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Its not the mark. You cant be tricked into taking the Mark of the Beast. You will know.
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Nobody would take it if they knew it will cause them to be damned.
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It's not the mark, it's the precursor. The mark is after the rapture. Remember it's in the right hand of forehead.
This is programming the lost

Blessings
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It's not the mark, it's the precursor. The mark is after the rapture. Remember it's in the right hand of forehead.
This is programming the lost

Blessings
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This type of thinking is why pre-tribbers will take the mark. Because they believe they have nothing to worry about and will be wisked away.
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The church is appointed to tribulation, but not to God's wrath. So there will be no pre-trib rapture.

Pre-tribbers love to quote 1 Corinthians 15:52 as proof of a pre-trib rapture even though the verse clearly says that Jesus will return at the last trumpet.

The temple is the body. When Jesus died on the cross, he became the ultimate sacrifice, making the old brick and mortar temple obsolete. The Holy Spirit was sent on Pentecost to reside within us, making our bodies the temple. That is the temple that will be defiled by the mark, not some building in the Middle East. Also, Israel is a people, not a place.

A lot of people think that worshiping the beast and taking the mark means doing it because they love and adore a charismatic man called the antichrist. But a beast is a government system, and the word that was translated as "worship" means "like a dog licking his master's hand." So worshiping the beast just means obeying the government, like a dog obeys his master.

The great choice we will have to make during the last days will be whether we serve God or mammon. Is our faith in God or mammon? Do we trust God or do we trust the system for our provision?

You will be told to take the mark or you can't work, can't go to school, can't travel, can't shop. You will be ostracized from society.

I would say the "vaccine" is looking very much to be the mark. It can't really even be called a vaccine. It's more akin to gene therapy. Technically, you become a genetically modified organism after taking it.

You can't patent a pig, but you can patent a GMO pig. So it's very possible that the patent holder could legally claim to own you after you take the vaccine.

Prior to taking the vaccine you are made in the image of God. After taking it, you're remade into a different image.

Rev 13 says people will take the mark in their right hand or forehead. The word translated as "right hand" can also mean "right side". The word translated as "forehead" means "the space between the eyes".

I've heard that the nasal swab test that they stick so far up your sinuses that it's literally hitting you in the forehead, is also being used to vaccinate people.

The Bible says that even the elect would be deceived if it were possible. So people aren't going to be told they're taking the mark of the beast. They're going to be told, you need to take this vaccine or this test to be able to work, travel, shop, visit your family, to be able to go back to living a normal life like before.

That's why people will take the mark because they're deceived into thinking the beast system has the authority to allow or not allow them to do these things. They say, "Who can make war with the beast?" and they submit to what the beast demands that they do.
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To put this where all of you can understand.

Most like myself believed in a pre-tribulation rapture.

This is when all Christians are "caught up" before all hell breaks loose on the earth. That is the normal accepted view. Movies like Left Behind are made from this theory. Then those left behind, have to live through hell with the antichrist in power, but can still go to heaven as a Tribulation Saint.

Tribulation period is for 7 years. The pre trib Rapture happens before, or at the beginning of this. It's the 7 yr peace treaty the antichrist confirms with Israel.

Some believe in a mid-trib rapture.


That's when all go through 3 1/2 years of the 7. Then somewhere in the middle, people vanish...the Rapture.

It's called the GREAT TRIBULATION & last 3 & 1/2 years of pure hell.

It's when the mark of the beast is introduced...

It's when the antichrist commits the Abomination of Desolation. (Or when antichrist goes into newly created Temple in Jerusalem to claim that HE IS GOD. The ultimate blasphemy.)

It's also when the antichrist kills the 2 witnesses. Who have been spreading the word of God since the beginning of the tribulation period. (Or for 3 & 1/2 years up to that point)

Anyways...my point?

If the vaccine truly is the mark of the beast, then we have already been in the tribulation & there's been no rapture yet.

So either it's immenant & could be any day? Since the vaccine is about to go world wide?

Or the vaccine is NOT the mark of the beast.


If it is the mark of the beast, then where are the 2 witnesses.

Is Israel complete on building the temple?

Im just asking... maybe someone has better & more info than me.

I'm a Nazarene, btw.
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It fits the "mark of the beast." Everything on earth is crazy. Politicians have completely lost their minds.

You can't buy or sell without it.

Democrats tried to issue a travel restrictions for those who don't take the vaccination.

They really want people to take it.

I never will.
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religion is all nonsense and make believe.
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religion is all nonsense and make believe.
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I used to believe like you, but that first began to change when I was in high school after my boyfriend and 2 friends died in a car accident. I was supposed to be in that car, but got called into work that night and ended up working instead of going out with my friends, who all died instantly when the car slid on an oilslick and struck a powerpole.

This left me really upset, shaken up, and questioning my belief system. That's when I first began to seriously contemplate the possibility of God and an afterlife at a time when I was a self-professed atheist. (I guess I was actually closer to being an agnostic who just didn't care to look into it any further and so I lazily called myself an atheist.)

It's been a long road since then. This post is already going to be long enough without going into all the details, which is a shame because I could tell you amazing things.

I went from denying God, to questioning God while crying and yelling in grief and anger, to accepting God nominally, to accepting God more seriously as my life and character began to be slowly transformed, but it was slow going because I still was not fully committed.

Then I went through some very painful ordeals that tested me to the limit, including being crippled for years and fearing that I would never walk again.

Instead of turning away from God during these ordeals, I never stopped crying out to him. For 2 years it felt like my pleas weren't getting past the ceiling. It would have been easy to think I'd been abandoned, but I refused to believe that God wasn't there, so I kept crying out to Him.

One night the thought hit me that maybe it was time to stop talking and start listening. So I stopped and listened and that's when I heard it, the still small voice of God that so many people talk about. It was definitely not just something I made up in my head, and there's honestly no describing it.

I don't know what to say except that the first message was huge and came faster than I'm capable of thinking, yet I was able to absorb it all. It was like a rapid download.

God told me not to be afraid. He assured me that I'd be healed (and I was, I am walking again). He also gave me some instructions that were about my personal situation, things to do, and some warnings.

I followed everything He told me to do to the letter, including one thing that could be considered quite risky. I still did it, and it was only years later that I came to understand why He told me to do that. We would've been in a terrible situation right now if I hadn't listened to those instructions years ago.

That was a huge life-changing moment for me, hearing God's voice for the first time. I wouldn't trade that for all the money in the world. I still hear Him, but not often. Maybe I still don't keep quiet and listen enough.

Since then I've seen miracles big and small, and my worry and fear have melted away because I know He's there and intervening in my life.

My life's still not easy breezy, but the hardships are not overwhelming or scary anymore because I know He's in control, and even the tough ordeals end up being for the best when all is said and done.

The tough ordeal of being crippled is a perfect example. I was crippled due to a bad reaction to a medication. Do you think I'm now going to be taking the COVID vaccine after that? No way!

Would I have folded if I hadn't gone through that? I don't know, except that it might have been more likely. Not now though. Not after years of pain and incapacitation from a bad reaction to a different med. It was a nightmare that I'm not willing to risk going through again no matter how much they try to twist my arm.

Especially, since God has proven to me time and time again that He can and will provide for all my needs. Those are the miracles great and small that I have seen.





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