I've Never Owned A Gun. What Is The Best Gun To Buy, Just For Self Defense?

the glock trigger was pretty controversial when it first
came out in the 80s. one reason glock is considered unsafe
by many is that it gained a reputation for accidents
because most police departments changed from 357 DA revolvers
to Glocks. They had a lot of training problems because
police were used to that heavy long trigger.

but ultimately it's a training issue.

I personally have no love of glocks, I dislike the grip angle.

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Exactly. Glocks are very safe.

Also, careful of the paddle holsters. Probably good idea to practice on an empty gun and be very aggressive, some people have been known for their finger to slip from the paddle to the trigger accidently while trying to pull a gun out of one in the middle of a fight.

by exposed holster we are talking about having the trigger exposed while it is in the holster period we are not talking about a holster that is visible on the outside of a person's belt period the term exposed means whether the trigger is able to be reached while the pistol is in the holster or not.

In the state and county I live in, you can shoot a trick or treater who looks to old to be trick or treating get a pass. In fact that exact thing happened.

Get ammo ordered first - then get pistol to match it. Glock makes every caliber but 43X is a nice model that can take 15 round mags (sold out so 10 rounds for a while) but is concealable. It is 9mm. Go to Ammoseek to locate ammo available to buy.

There is also a 48x - x stands for extended grip - you want that. Barrel is longer than 43 so that is good if you don't plan to CCW.

Ammo is available but expensive. Get good defensive ammo and some cheaper ammo for practice. You need at least 100 rounds of defense ammo.

Shotgun would be next - Remington makes decent pump shotgun in Turkey that are really nice but reasonable (870 model but they may have a new name - make sure function is the same). 00 buck is expensive now (I just paid $15 for 5 rounds). Get it - similarly 100 rounds.

You really should have both and know how to use them instinctively which means practice.

Good luck.

Is that really what they meant by exposed? Hehe

it's been a while but as i understand it they use it because the case has a double shoulder that = jams less, it has a flatter high velocity trajectory and delivers the debatable hydrostatic shock effect, [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

I dislike them simply because the ratio of perps shot to users and innocent bystanders shot by them is way too low.
IT IS THAT SIMPLE

Was going to suggest this also.

AN exposed holster is one that is on the outside of the clothing, as in not concealed carry. Conceal carrying a glock is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. When police are under cover they dont use Glocks. I wonder why?

Do show us this radio. Lmao

Just remember, Glocks have no manual safety, nor a true double action long trigger pull. You need practice/training to learn trigger discipline and ammo is in short supply for doing that. Glocks are great for LE who train often and use outside the waistband holsters (less chance of catching clothes on the trigger when holstering). First time gun owners with no practice ammo, probably not. Just look up "Glock leg".

HORSESHIT, you feckless moron.

Because of the size due to side by side magazine. You're wrong again.

Please read some more my friend, please.

haha, now thats funny. glock leg happens reholstering, not on the draw. Because like a revolver when the trigger is pulled the gun goes off. ONLY when the trigger is pulled. stuffing the gun back into a holster and haveing a shirt, keys, etc getting in the trigger then when you push it down the gun fires because the trigger was pulled. the exact thing can happen with a revolver. I have more firearms experience as an armorer, operator, and general firearms guy then anyone in this thread.

Kimber 1911 .45

I never carry anything chambered.

I've always had 20 to 60 seconds to realize a confrontation
was coming. Situational awareness is more important than
a chambered round.

We are having a discussion about a proper holster for a Glock period when we say an exposed holster of course the first thought is that it is visible on the outside of the belt period in the topic of safety and whether or not the trigger is exposed while it is in the holster is the subject of this discussion.

yep (doesn't have to be a Glock, but...)

No one believes you. But do keep up with the assumptions, it's entertaining at best.

And don't forget handy (money-and-lawsuit-saving) non-lethals, like loud sirens, flash-bangs, etc. You can do a lot of good without risking hitting friendlies.

All carrying GLOCKS

Also, watching bad guys run and scream after flashbangs is more fun than calling an ambulance for them.

Plus it doesn't waste ambulances on bad guys.

the battle in which we're engaged is not only ultimately spiritual, it's apocalyptic; and it cannot be won with physical arms; as Jesus said, "Those who live by the sword will die by the sword". Make the Most High God your your shield and His Word your weapon... God is almighty! He can instantly kill an entire army in a split second if he so chooses

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I have a Smith and Wesson very similar to a glock but I dont carry it, it's a nightstand gun.

My carry weapon is a Beretta, a bit bigger and heavier than a glock but MUCH safer.

But...he doesn't make my toast in the morning.

That doesn't mean he doesn't want me to have toast.