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I've Never Owned A Gun. What Is The Best Gun To Buy, Just For Self Defense?

 
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When someone says that one gun shoots better than another I am assuming that that person is able to shoot a particular gun better than another one . One of the most common range officer jokes is when new shooters bring their new pistols to them and tell them that it is shooting low and left when they are right-handed and low and right when they are left-handed. it is all about trigger control and site acquisition.
 Quoting: Apollonius 78234183


Then I guess you've never fired a factory new Beretta 9mm? The most comically inaccurate handgun I've ever fired :)
 Quoting: DarkStalker74


they are just different platforms my friend and I know people who can shoot them both equally well. I personally choose the 1911 I have medium sized hands I love these single action trigger pull and the single stack grip.
You are certainly correct in that many many guns are inaccurate from the factory period but the overwhelming majority of missing the target is to be blamed on poor trigger control and poor side acquisition and a poor grip.
 Quoting: Apollonius 78234183


A Beretta will out shoot a plastic piece of shit every time. If you're shooting bigger groups with a Beretta than a Glock, you suck ass.
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The Beretta 92 was a notoriously hard pistol to learn to shoot it has a initial double action shot followed up by single action shots with plenty of creep and over travel.
The Glock does have a consistent double action trigger pull every time. I've already stated that I'm a 1911 fan but I can take an objective viewpoint on the Beretta and the Glock and the 1911 can't all the calibers and manufacturers just get along?
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50AE semi auto..
Please read something....anything...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78234183


What you are talking about is a rare ,impractical weapon that costs as much as most peoples car.
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It was a response to your statement and is true.
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I seriously doubt it has the muzzle energy of a .44 Magnum or a 500 smith and Wesson.

If it does what is the advantage? If you get shot with an antiaircraft gun you will be no more dead than if you are shot with a .44 magnum.

In other words an impractical , expensive toy for people with more money than brains and a strong urge to show off.

A dick extension, like a jacked up truck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79719633


well it's true the muzzle fireball from a .50AE is a definite pose. the noise is not and in a confined space? ouch, probably deaf for several seconds after just one shot. not the most practical.
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For 38 caliber leave first chamber empty
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For a single action pistol lacking a transfer bar design regardless of it's caliber leave the hammer on an empty cylinder unless you expect to need all 6 rounds in the very near future.
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They have to chose between religious zealots and big government
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The government exploded in size under Bush Jr. and under Trump there were literally plainclothes government thugs kidnapping people off my street.
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Re: I've Never Owned A Gun. What Is The Best Gun To Buy, Just For Self Defense?
When someone says that one gun shoots better than another I am assuming that that person is able to shoot a particular gun better than another one . One of the most common range officer jokes is when new shooters bring their new pistols to them and tell them that it is shooting low and left when they are right-handed and low and right when they are left-handed. it is all about trigger control and site acquisition.
 Quoting: Apollonius 78234183


Then I guess you've never fired a factory new Beretta 9mm? The most comically inaccurate handgun I've ever fired :)
 Quoting: DarkStalker74


You are certainly correct in that many many guns are inaccurate from the factory period but the overwhelming majority of missing the target is to be blamed on poor trigger control and poor side acquisition and a poor grip.
 Quoting: Apollonius 78234183


A Beretta will out shoot a plastic piece of shit every time. If you're shooting bigger groups with a Beretta than a Glock, you suck ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79719633


the beretta barrel doesnt float and waggle around for one thing
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OP (law enforcement) never came back but now has info to subpoena this site for your IP addresses
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LMAO! For doing what exactly?
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That's the kind of comment that would stir up other snowflakes no end......laughable.
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best pistol I own right now


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keep a case of cheap booze for Molotov cocktails for a little back up crowd pleaser.

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Wristrocket. Unregistered. You can really fuck shit up if you practice for 3 years because your mom hates guns.

I can knock your tooth out at 20 yards.
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Right now get a gun that will have ammo available. That’s most likely a 9mm. Glock or Smith & Wesson is all you need.
 Quoting: 4Trump


LMAO. 9 mm? That's one of the calibers with ZERO ammo in stores. You can get it online, at expensive prices. There are a lot of other calibers that actually have ammo in store, from .38 and .32 to .45 in pistol calibers, 45-70, 7.62 mm, etc in rifle.
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Wristrocket. Unregistered. You can really fuck shit up if you practice for 3 years because your mom hates guns.

I can knock your tooth out at 20 yards.
 Quoting: Coy


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Wristrocket. Unregistered. You can really fuck shit up if you practice for 3 years because your mom hates guns.

I can knock your tooth out at 20 yards.
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Nobody wants to hear about your masturbatory tendencies. Keep your "wrist rocket" in the bedroom.
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The government exploded in size under Bush Jr. and under Trump there were literally plainclothes government thugs kidnapping people off my street.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79649168


Evidence for plainclothes thugs. Do you mean violent rioters being arrested? Because, you know, they are doing illegal violent activities.

Of course the Republican Party also likes big gov: big military, etc.

However, Trump has been stopping the endless wars. Doesn't that matter to you? I have protested those wars under BOTH Bush and Obama.

Also, it's the left currently trying to censor and deplatform all opposition, restrict gun rights, open borders, lock down states and cities for Covid, etc. Do you realize that?

Right now, the left is being more insane. A lot of old school liberals and moderates are finding ourselves in a new, bizarre space, where the Republicans/conservatives are less insane than the Democrats. LOL.
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best pistol I own right now


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$1k pistol.
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Ruger .380, small and you wont have a gun that says "look how small my penis is."
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Easy on the truck .you sound like a city slicker soy boy that hasn't spent much time in the woods.
 Quoting: President Elect Splinterhead72


Jacking a truck does not increase any part of the performance of it. it just makes it more unstable and burn more gas. The ground clearance is generally limited by the rear differential, and it's height does not change by jacking the suspension. Its a TOTALLY USELESS modification done by idiots with tiny peckers and brains to match it.
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Lifting a truck allows the installation of taller tires, which increases ground clearance. Even Stevie Wonder can see that. You are the missing link. Goodbye.
 Quoting: Crunch62


And what effect does installing larger tires have on it's performance, and final drive ratio?

You might get a few inches of ground clearance and for what? A useless, dangerous gas hog
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it looks cool though and you can see up women's short skirts at red lights
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Ruger .380, small and you wont have a gun that says "look how small my penis is."
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.380 ammo is very hard and expensive to get right now. Worse than 9 mm.
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best pistol I own right now


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$1k pistol.
 Quoting: Contra spem spero


Yeah, all these people advising folks on here to get like Benelli shotguns, or that Sig. Sure, if you have a ton of money sitting around. But most people don't.

You don't need either to fill the immediate need of a decent quality gun, for half the price.
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best pistol I own right now


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$1k pistol.
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devil6

yes but it shoots like a fucking mule kick
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Re: I've Never Owned A Gun. What Is The Best Gun To Buy, Just For Self Defense?
Now, more than ever is the time.
I can feel it in my entire being.
Any advice on what to buy?

The last time I shot a gun was at the gun club with my grandfather, 1970, when I was 6.

For those of us who are PATRIOTS at heart and defend the REPUBLIC, AND OUR PRESIDENT, what Gun would you recommend to purchase? Which is the biggest bang for the buck, pun intended? Many of us aren't rolling in cash. I need something cheap, but GOOD!

Can one order online?

What kind of i.d. do you need?

What is the background check and how long a process is that?

Thanks in advance

From someone who should've bought "protection" years ago already.
 Quoting: Now Is The TIME. 78774230

Taurus Public Defender is good...
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Ruger .380, small and you wont have a gun that says "look how small my penis is."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77912488


As a follow up, can find ammo for any caliber almost on ammoseek.com.

Look at this though, .380 is $0.90 a round and up...

[link to ammoseek.com (secure)]

9 mm is currently about $0.57 a round on there.

Good luck finding either in most gun stores.
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best pistol I own right now


 Quoting: BallsDeeper


$1k pistol.
 Quoting: Contra spem spero


Yeah, all these people advising folks on here to get like Benelli shotguns, or that Sig. Sure, if you have a ton of money sitting around. But most people don't.

You don't need either to fill the immediate need of a decent quality gun, for half the price.
 Quoting: TheRising


good luck finding a $500 .45 anywhere at the moment. Like someone else said if you want to get something that will keep your ass alive you gonna have to lay out $$$.
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Re: I've Never Owned A Gun. What Is The Best Gun To Buy, Just For Self Defense?
The one you Should have bought 12 months ago.

That said, the one you can get ammo for.

Best all around defense gun is a Glock 19.

Get a carry permit & pro training.
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Now, more than ever is the time.
I can feel it in my entire being.
Any advice on what to buy?

The last time I shot a gun was at the gun club with my grandfather, 1970, when I was 6.

For those of us who are PATRIOTS at heart and defend the REPUBLIC, AND OUR PRESIDENT, what Gun would you recommend to purchase? Which is the biggest bang for the buck, pun intended? Many of us aren't rolling in cash. I need something cheap, but GOOD!

Can one order online?

What kind of i.d. do you need?

What is the background check and how long a process is that?

Thanks in advance

From someone who should've bought "protection" years ago already.
 Quoting: Now Is The TIME. 78774230


"What Is The Best Gun To Buy",...you say?

The one that is NO LONGER AVAILABLE

A little late to the table wouldn't you say?
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Re: I've Never Owned A Gun. What Is The Best Gun To Buy, Just For Self Defense?
best pistol I own right now


 Quoting: BallsDeeper


$1k pistol.
 Quoting: Contra spem spero


Yeah, all these people advising folks on here to get like Benelli shotguns, or that Sig. Sure, if you have a ton of money sitting around. But most people don't.

You don't need either to fill the immediate need of a decent quality gun, for half the price.
 Quoting: TheRising


good luck finding a $500 .45 anywhere at the moment. Like someone else said if you want to get something that will keep your ass alive you gonna have to lay out $$$.
 Quoting: BallsDeeper


You can in my area. Or, get a decent 9 mm in the $5-600 range. Obviously probably a compact, but whateves. Lots of very good used guns in the $4-500 range too. New S&W M&P going for $599 in my gun store. Not the shield, the compacts and full size. There are glocks there too for the same price. And some that are more.
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$1k pistol.
 Quoting: Contra spem spero


Yeah, all these people advising folks on here to get like Benelli shotguns, or that Sig. Sure, if you have a ton of money sitting around. But most people don't.

You don't need either to fill the immediate need of a decent quality gun, for half the price.
 Quoting: TheRising


good luck finding a $500 .45 anywhere at the moment. Like someone else said if you want to get something that will keep your ass alive you gonna have to lay out $$$.
 Quoting: BallsDeeper


You can in my area. Or, get a decent 9 mm in the $5-600 range. Obviously probably a compact, but whateves. Lots of very good used guns in the $4-500 range too. New S&W M&P going for $599 in my gun store. Not the shield, the compacts and full size. There are glocks there too for the same price. And some that are more.
 Quoting: TheRising


Also my dream gun a Sig p210 was like $1100-1200 like two months ago, and now is more. I bet the sig you are talking about has gone up too.
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Ruger .380, small and you wont have a gun that says "look how small my penis is."
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Or one that will kill a guy wearing a carhart.





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