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YHWH the False Creator. YHWH the Creator of the Slave Race Man.

 
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Does anyone here know what TRUE FREEDOM is?

True freedom is the ability to come and go as you please anywhere, anytime in the whole universe simply by thought.

True freedom is not to be subject to any of the known or unknown elements, fire water heat, cold or hunger. As long as we occupy these fleshly shells we are subject to slavery.

It doesnt help that we were created a non telepathic race. Who could decieve us if we knew the others intentions? The slavery issue goes deeper than the here and now.

We were created as slaves. We are, all of us, mighty spiritual beings trapped in fleshly shells.

We are slaves and the conspiracy of it goes all the way to the top, the creator of mankind, this YHWH we have been sold as god.




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Who says we were created non-telepathic? We aren't telepathic *now* (generally), but we don't have a lot of the details regarding Adam & Eve - for those of us bible suckers who accept scripture, anyway.
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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Ok, but as slaves, what is our bidding? Whom do we serve? What do we serve?
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Who says we were created non-telepathic? We aren't telepathic *now* (generally), but we don't have a lot of the details regarding Adam & Eve - for those of us bible suckers who accept scripture, anyway.
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If Adam and Eve were telepathic Lucifer could not have fooled them. If Adam and Eve were telepathic, would they not have known it was a test?



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YHWH , allah , jesus,Mohammed are myth

the truth are Stalin and Hitler
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Ok, but as slaves, what is our bidding? Whom do we serve? What do we serve?
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That's the questions that need answered. Now the game is afoot...



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well, i'd heard this one before, all about enki, ananuki and all that. so, where is the good God? i ain't seen no trace of no entity like that, it's just evil 360*. i know there is something "out there" and i fear my greatest fear is true.... we are so doomed.
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If Adam and Eve were telepathic Lucifer could not have fooled them. If Adam and Eve were telepathic, would they not have known it was a test?
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I don't know. I won't pretend to know how telepathy works, or whether it was a literal snake, or a dinosaur, or a grey alien who tricked them.
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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i would like to buy a vowel.
MAKA = Make America Kind Again
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If Adam and Eve were telepathic Lucifer could not have fooled them. If Adam and Eve were telepathic, would they not have known it was a test?

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'Lucifer' did not fool anyone. He told the truth and only the truth. The subsequent events were created by the wrath of a lying god.
And no, I'm not satanic, but neither i believe in the 'Christian god'.
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well, i'd heard this one before, all about enki, ananuki and all that. so, where is the good God? i ain't seen no trace of no entity like that, it's just evil 360*. i know there is something "out there" and i fear my greatest fear is true.... we are so doomed.
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So, were is the good GOD, or were is the good human, the CHOSEN ONE is HE out there ? Is HE exactly what the bible say's ? Does it matter what people think, even if they have everything, this world can give them, but, do they have LIFE, or are they dead, even though they should live??
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perhaps we were created as slaves, and that we have already served our masters purpose long, long ago. now that they have left the planet, our species was just allowed to carry on. occaisonally, they stop by and check in, mostly for amusement, or kind of a side show tour, but none the less, care not to use us anymore.
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well, i'd heard this one before, all about enki, ananuki and all that. so, where is the good God? i ain't seen no trace of no entity like that, it's just evil 360*. i know there is something "out there" and i fear my greatest fear is true.... we are so doomed.




So, were is the good GOD, or were is the good human, the CHOSEN ONE is HE out there ? Is HE exactly what the bible say's ? Does it matter what people think, even if they have everything, this world can give them, but, do they have LIFE, or are they dead, even though they should live??
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Ive got a feeling that YHWH got into big trouble for creating man. Set into motion something bigger than even he could comprehend....Speculation? Maybe.


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perhaps we were created as slaves, and that we have already served our masters purpose long, long ago. now that they have left the planet, our species was just allowed to carry on. occaisonally, they stop by and check in, mostly for amusement, or kind of a side show tour, but none the less, care not to use us anymore.
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Youre probally closer to the truth than you know...


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'Lucifer' did not fool anyone. He told the truth and only the truth. The subsequent events were created by the wrath of a lying god.
And no, I'm not satanic, but neither i believe in the 'Christian god'.
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Yeah, Lucifer does tend to paint himself as a beleaguered hero, selflessly sharing his truth with us oppressed humans. Thank goodness we've been delivered from that awful, awful paradise, and that monstrous Father who would dare allow us to face cause & effect.
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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The Gods of Eden

link below ( i hope )

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

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'Lucifer' did not fool anyone. He told the truth and only the truth. The subsequent events were created by the wrath of a lying god.
And no, I'm not satanic, but neither i believe in the 'Christian god'.


Yeah, Lucifer does tend to paint himself as a beleaguered hero, selflessly sharing his truth with us oppressed humans. Thank goodness we've been delivered from that awful, awful paradise, and that monstrous Father who would dare allow us to face cause & effect.
 Quoting: MuadDib987



Would it not be more to Lucifers character to create slaves and say he was god?



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perhaps we were created as slaves, and that we have already served our masters purpose long, long ago. now that they have left the planet, our species was just allowed to carry on. occaisonally, they stop by and check in, mostly for amusement, or kind of a side show tour, but none the less, care not to use us anymore.



Youre probally closer to the truth than you know...


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Well, perhaps I am. Would you care to steer the direction a bit?
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Would it not be more to Lucifers character to create slaves and say he was god?
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Certainly. He does it to this day.
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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perhaps we were created as slaves, and that we have already served our masters purpose long, long ago. now that they have left the planet, our species was just allowed to carry on. occaisonally, they stop by and check in, mostly for amusement, or kind of a side show tour, but none the less, care not to use us anymore.



Youre probally closer to the truth than you know...


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Well, perhaps I am. Would you care to steer the direction a bit?
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Maybe they cant use us the way they did once before. Even though still primative in the larger scale of things, however were not as easily intimidated or frightened with technology that seems magical. Now we can fight back, albeit primative, but still make a dent in the armour so to speak..


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We are all here until we accept responsibility for our own actions. Acceptance is the key to everything, don't argue always accept everything even if false you can always do a conditional acceptance so you can remain in honour.

The majority of this world are in dishonour, never accepting responsibility.

Now which being accepted you? Your sin? Your faults & liabilities? Only one.

That's for you to realize and live by the example.
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We are all here until we accept responsibility for our own actions. Acceptance is the key to everything, don't argue always accept everything even if false you can always do a conditional acceptance so you can remain in honour.

The majority of this world are in dishonour, never accepting responsibility.

Now which being accepted you? Your sin? Your faults & liabilities? Only one.

That's for you to realize and live by the example.
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Sure we should take responsibility for our actions. Why should I be responsible for Adam and Eves? I did nothing wrong. The christians bible it is stated:

The law was given that sin might abound. Simplified it means, without the law there would be no sin. Im not guilty of anything unless something or someone can make me believe it. Im sure as hell not responsible for Adam and Eve's so called sin. My opinion is of such that its an excuse for our slavery by the ultimate powers that be...



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Sure we should take responsibility for our actions. Why should I be responsible for Adam and Eves? I did nothing wrong. The christians bible it is stated:

The law was given that sin might abound. Simplified it means, without the law there would be no sin. Im not guilty of anything unless something or someone can make me believe it. Im sure as hell not responsible for Adam and Eve's so called sin. My opinion is of such that its an excuse for our slavery by the ultimate powers that be...

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True, the law is what reveals guilt, but even without it, we're still *defective*. The law shows us how seriously we need the remedy of execution-by-proxy offered in Christ. It's a little like being x-rayed. . .the picture can expose a fracture which requires healing. You can reject the x-ray if you like, but you'll still limp.

Had I been there in place of Adam or Eve, I likely would have disobeyed just like they did. As their offspring, I can't assume I would have done otherwise.
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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well, i'd heard this one before, all about enki, ananuki and all that. so, where is the good God? i ain't seen no trace of no entity like that, it's just evil 360*. i know there is something "out there" and i fear my greatest fear is true.... we are so doomed.




So, were is the good GOD, or were is the good human, the CHOSEN ONE is HE out there ? Is HE exactly what the bible say's ? Does it matter what people think, even if they have everything, this world can give them, but, do they have LIFE, or are they dead, even though they should live??



Ive got a feeling that YHWH got into big trouble for creating man. Set into motion something bigger than even he could comprehend....Speculation? Maybe.


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 Quoting: HardTruth
yes, it's very fubar, it would seem the maker is quite psychotic. so, who's the big dog gonna clean up this mess i wonder? seen the chernobyl screen slide show thread anyone? and so the god looks on.......gotta hate Him.
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Sure we should take responsibility for our actions. Why should I be responsible for Adam and Eves? I did nothing wrong. The christians bible it is stated:

The law was given that sin might abound. Simplified it means, without the law there would be no sin. Im not guilty of anything unless something or someone can make me believe it. Im sure as hell not responsible for Adam and Eve's so called sin. My opinion is of such that its an excuse for our slavery by the ultimate powers that be...



True, the law is what reveals guilt, but even without it, we're still *defective*. The law shows us how seriously we need the remedy of execution-by-proxy offered in Christ. It's a little like being x-rayed. . .the picture can expose a fracture which requires healing. You can reject the x-ray if you like, but you'll still limp.

Had I been there in place of Adam or Eve, I likely would have disobeyed just like they did. As their offspring, I can't assume I would have done otherwise.
 Quoting: MuadDib987


Why would a loving creator, create US with flaws and then hold US responsible for them? Im not buying that story. Somethings missing...big time..



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We are all here until we accept responsibility for our own actions. Acceptance is the key to everything, don't argue always accept everything even if false you can always do a conditional acceptance so you can remain in honour.

The majority of this world are in dishonour, never accepting responsibility.

Now which being accepted you? Your sin? Your faults & liabilities? Only one.

That's for you to realize and live by the example.
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my acceptance and honor will not prevent tptb from mass murdering. do you reckon the god in that book accepts responsibility? hello....
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Why would a loving creator, create US with flaws and then hold US responsible for them? Im not buying that story. Somethings missing...big time..
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Fair enough.
May I sincerely ask how things are going for you? When I used to cuss God out, it was always when I was hurting. (Please disregard if this comes across as condescending).
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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Why would a loving creator, create US with flaws and then hold US responsible for them? Im not buying that story. Somethings missing...big time..


Fair enough.
May I sincerely ask how things are going for you? When I used to cuss God out, it was always when I was hurting. (Please disregard if this comes across as condescending).
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Im not hurting, or cusing god. Im in the same place as all here. Slavery under the powers that be. Only difference is im trying to get to the ultimate source of the conspiracy. All conspiracies ultimatly seems to lead straight back to the bible. Im cusing the bullshit stories were all being sold.


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Slavery under the powers that be.
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Would you describe the nature of this slavery? To me, a slave consists of an exploited child trapped in an Asian brothel or a coke addict throwing everything away just to get his daily fix. I'm curious whether we're on the same page here.
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Would it not be more to Lucifers character to create slaves and say he was god?


Certainly. He does it to this day.
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and so the god just let him. if you seen a child being raped, would you stand there and watch? i rest my case.
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evil is evil, words or pages do not apply. hairsplitting does not apply when you get down to the bottom line, evil or not evil?





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