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YHWH the False Creator. YHWH the Creator of the Slave Race Man.

 
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I can get on board with some of that...My question is..Where the hell is the instruction book?...LOL The KJV is certainley not it...Earth is a prison, as I fear most programmed matter is...A criminal who has no idea of his crime is a bit harsh though...If im doin the time...what was my crime?



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Instruction book?
Geez, I just tend to make things up as I go along.LOL!
Spontaneity has a way of spiking the Machine.
With sometimes hilarious results.
"If it's the government,I'm agin it" is an Irish folksaying.
Have you considered that you may not in fact be a criminal, but someone who tunneled their way into prison with the idea of assisting in a prison break?
 Quoting: Nobodaddy 228433



Damn..I like that..Always wanted to break out all the non conformist from prison....

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I can get on board with some of that...My question is..Where the hell is the instruction book?...LOL The KJV is certainley not it...Earth is a prison, as I fear most programmed matter is...A criminal who has no idea of his crime is a bit harsh though...If im doin the time...what was my crime?



___________

Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!

Instruction book?
Geez, I just tend to make things up as I go along.LOL!
Spontaneity has a way of spiking the Machine.
With sometimes hilarious results.
"If it's the government,I'm agin it" is an Irish folksaying.
Have you considered that you may not in fact be a criminal, but someone who tunneled their way into prison with the idea of assisting in a prison break?



Damn..I like that..Always wanted to break out all the non conformist from prison....

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Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
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think of it like this.
the govt of the material (dimensional including the place you go to when you 'die') is very powerful. This govt has rules that cannot be broken. If you fight real hard you can go to the place where Lucifer dwells (prison dimension designed to house all of angry 'freedom fighters'). If you follow the rules you will be rewarded and given much power , this is the 'Santa Claus' clause.

If you still yourself and come to the RECOGNITION that you are not human and that this game no longer makes sense to you and that you ONLY WANT PEACE...then...then you are beginning to find the back door out of this virtual world program.
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I can get on board with some of that...My question is..Where the hell is the instruction book?...LOL The KJV is certainley not it...Earth is a prison, as I fear most programmed matter is...A criminal who has no idea of his crime is a bit harsh though...If im doin the time...what was my crime?



___________

Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!

Instruction book?
Geez, I just tend to make things up as I go along.LOL!
Spontaneity has a way of spiking the Machine.
With sometimes hilarious results.
"If it's the government,I'm agin it" is an Irish folksaying.
Have you considered that you may not in fact be a criminal, but someone who tunneled their way into prison with the idea of assisting in a prison break?



Damn..I like that..Always wanted to break out all the non conformist from prison....

___________

Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!


think of it like this.
the govt of the material (dimensional including the place you go to when you 'die') is very powerful. This govt has rules that cannot be broken. If you fight real hard you can go to the place where Lucifer dwells (prison dimension designed to house all of angry 'freedom fighters'). If you follow the rules you will be rewarded and given much power , this is the 'Santa Claus' clause.

If you still yourself and come to the RECOGNITION that you are not human and that this game no longer makes sense to you and that you ONLY WANT PEACE...then...then you are beginning to find the back door out of this virtual world program.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 232837



When I realized the thesis, antithesis, divide and conquer, of this world, I quit playing the game along time ago..Ive had that back door in view for a very long time..I just cant seem to pick that damn lock...LOL

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Im tired, and its time to go home....Sleep well all....
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program.



When I realized the thesis, antithesis, divide and conquer, of this world, I quit playing the game along time ago..Ive had that back door in view for a very long time..I just cant seem to pick that damn lock...LOL

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 Quoting: HardTruth


yah..the lock IS very tricky...

nite
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With all due respect, HT, I don't get it: You own your own company, but you feel you've been given a raw deal because you can't travel the universe at the speed of thought as you please, and you're stuck in a vulnerable physical body. . .meanwhile, there are people in this world who have little alternative but to do degrading or ugly things just to feed their family, children who are trapped in some form of abuse, and single mothers who work 80 hours a week at minumum wage. I don't know you or your circumstances, but I'd bet ¾ of the world would love to step into your shoes.

Maybe learning a musical instrument would help ease the sting of your oppression?
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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also, Dismas,

you would love Robert Monroe,Far Journeys pgs 162-180

he was a brilliant man with one foot out of this dimension.

his experiences confirm the teachings of the gnostics, but provides a broader scope that elimates all duality.
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Thanks-understood.
Also, I'll check out the recommendation too-Monroe.
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Let me dust this off and drop it in here for consideration.

Cheers,

Dismas

Dark Gods

The notion that humankind was created by some type of extraterrestrial genetic manipulation, according to some researchers, is the actual basis of the creation stories found in the ancient “Sumerian Records” and the later “Hebrew Scriptures.” This idea is set out in detail in the work of Israeli scholar Zecharia Sitchin, who uses the Sumerian records to argue that modern “Homo sapiens” were created by beings from outer space called "Nefilim". He believes that the Nefilim created humans by genetically modifying “Homo erectus,” then mated with them and argued over what to do with them.

In 1989 Zecharia Sitchin's radical hypothesis was taken a major step further with the publication of the book The Gods of Eden, appropriately subtitled: “The chilling truth about extraterrestrial infiltration - and the conspiracy to keep humankind in chains.” The author, a Californian lawyer going by the nom de plume "William Bramley" brought together all the major themes found in earlier ‘ancient astronaut’ research and merged them with a unique ‘conspiracy view of history.’ Bramley’s thesis, shocking and confronting to nearly all established popular beliefs, is:

Human beings appear to be a “slave race” breeding on an “isolated planet” in a “small galaxy.” As such, the human race was once a source of labor for an “extraterrestrial civilization” (and still remains a possession today.) To keep control over its possession and to maintain Earth as something of a prison, the “extraterrestrial overlords”, have bred a never-ending conflict between the various races of human beings, has promoted spiritual confusion, and has erected on Earth, conditions of unremitting physical hardship. This situation has existed for thousands of years and it continues today.

(The Gods of Eden)

The idea that human kind is the product of “genetic engineering” carried out by extraterrestrials from outside our tiny planet challenges both Darwinian evolution and creationism. Have the dogmas of science and religion blinded us to the truth of our origins?

The Christian church proclaims that a supposedly all-knowing, all-powerful ‘God’ created our first parents from ‘mud’, in much the same way as potter molds clay. Only when Adam and Eve broke their Creator's rules were they subject to pain, sickness and death. By disobeying this ‘God’, they also condemned their offspring — all humanity — to be ‘sinners’. Christianity derives the unfortunate tale of Adam and Eve from Genesis, the first book of the Hebrew Bible (or Old Testament.)

If we interpret the Bible literally, regarding it as an “infallible historical document,” we are introduced to a creator ‘God’ (Jehovah/Yahweh) who, by his own admission, is jealous, wrathful and full of vengeance. The “fear” of the "Lord" (Jehovah/Yahweh) is constantly stressed throughout the Old Testament. He is expected to reward those who worship him and are not delinquent in their observance of the ritual law, by gratifying their worldly desires for material gains and worldly power. One cannot help but note that this cruel, bloodthirsty, and selfish ‘God’ bears a striking resemblance to the “capricious” gods of Sumeria.

This all too human ‘God’, according to Genesis, took a walk in the "cool of the day," unaware that his prize humans had spoiled his creation by eating the ‘forbidden fruit’. After this, having chased the first human couple out of Paradise, he threatens their descendants with his wrath (until the day when he drowned the whole world in a flood.)

This ‘God’ (Jehovah/Yahweh) as the historian Gibbon observed in ,”The Decline and fall of the Roman Empire,” is a "being, liable to passion and error, capricious in his favor, implacable in his resentment, meanly jealous of his superstitious worship, and confining his partial providence to a single people (Jews) and to this transitory life."

Research indicates that the Hebrew Bible, far from being an infallible historical text authored by the “Supreme Being,” is a heavily revised compilation of at least two entirely separate works. Fused together in the Book of Genesis are two separate works known to scholars as the northern "E" and southern "J" traditions, which are supplemented by additional revisions and inserts. In "E" (the Elohist passages) resides the pre-Judeans tradition of the northern peoples who exalted the Most-High God, El and the subordinate Elohim (Shining Ones). The "J" or "Jehovist" passages describe a totally alien entity, the evil and contending Jehovah (YHWH), the "Lord".

According to Max J. Dimont, in Jews, God and History:” In the 5th century B.C. Jewish priests combined portions of the ‘J’ and ‘E’ documents, adding a little handiwork of their own (known as the pious fraud), which are referred to as the ‘JE’ documents, since “God” in these passages is referred to as ‘Jehovah Elohim’ (translated as ‘Lord God’)."
This is why within the Bible we encounter “contradictory and conflicting” images of the Supreme God. We find Jehovah, a tribal god, “masquerading as the Supreme Being.” The first chapters of Genesis describe an awesome struggle between two rival powers. There is the “Most High God and His Elohim” who create through their own manifest spirit; and “the malevolent Lord God, Jehovah,” who created a “synthetic being” composed of dirt. “Jehovah” is actually “Satanael” (a “Shining One,” who rose in revolt against the Supreme God-Heavenly Father (El). Though, later called the “One God”, the early Hebrews knew Jehovah (YHWH- Satanael) as only “one of many Elohim.”

They quoted the “Song of Moses” to distinguish between the Most High, Supreme God-Heavenly Father (El) and the “usurper, Jehovah (YHWH- Satanael):
When the Most High (El) gave the nations their heritage,
(When He divided mankind)
He fixed the territories of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God;
But Jehovah’s (YHWH- Satanael) share was his people,
“Jacob” was his inherited possession. (Deuteronomy 32:8)
The Gnostic Christians of the early centuries AD, who preserved the original teachings of Jesus, distinguished between the Heavenly Father (El) and the god of the Hebrew Bible Jehovah (YHWH- Satanael.) Jehovah (YHWH- Satanael) “was not, the “Father/God” revealed by Jesus.”
While the “Hebrew Bible” revealed a “tribal god” (YHWH- Satanael), “the God of Jesus was the universal Supreme Being of all humanity the Most High-Heavenly Father (El)!” The Hebrew god was a god of “fear.” Jesus’ Heavenly Father was a God of “love.” In fact, Jesus “never” referred to the Heavenly Father as Jehovah (YHWH- Satanael.) The Gnostic Gospel of Peter states that the Hebrew were under the delusion that they knew the “Supreme Being,” but they were ignorant of “Him,” and knew only a false god, an impostor (Jehovah, YHWH- Satanael) whose true nature was unknown to them.
The Gnostics based on their thorough study of the Book of Genesis, exposed Jehovah as Satanael the Demiurge, (the creative power of this fallen material world, who is “hostile” to the Supreme Being-Heavenly Father-El.) One Gnostic teacher told how the unknown Father (Heavenly Father- El) made the angels, the archangels, powers and dominions. The world, however, and everything in it, including man, was made by seven particular angels- these angels he described as rebellious feeble artisans.

Saturninus (90-150), who established an important Gnostic community in Syria, taught that the “One True God,” the Heavenly Father-El revealed by Jesus, dwells in the “highest Realm of Light.” Between this transcendent Realm of Light and our finite world exist vast intermediate hierarchies of archangels, angels and spiritual powers; the builders of the universe and the fashioners of man. In foolishness and vanity Satanael (Jehovah YHWH) “rebelled against the Realm of Light,” leading astray a company of angelic beings.

Satanael (Jehovah YHWH) and his minions, contrived “to trap spiritual beings in physical bodies.” Saturninus (90-150), told how Satanael’s (Jehovah YHWH) “creator angels” endeavored to “create physical human bodies,” in the image of spiritual beings. This way they could keep spiritual beings permanently (attached to physical bodies!)
In Saturninus’ (90-150), account of creation, Satanael’s (Jehovah YHWH) creator angels could only form a primitive android. It was necessary to animate it with a spirit being from the upper realms. Satanael (Jehovah YHWH) therefore lured down into his soulless universe a light-spark from the heavenly realms and trapped it within the material body of Adam.

According to Apelles, another early Gnostic teacher, spirit beings were enticed from their place in the “heavenly realms” by the opportunity of physical experience, through the machinations of Satanael’ (Jehovah YHWH) after which he bound them in bodies of flesh. Generation succeeded generation, as the light-sparks took embodiment in human forms. Soon these spiritual beings became so engrossed in the material world that they lost all awareness of “their origin in the Realm of Light.” They found themselves “captured” in the world of the Demiurge-Satanael (Jehovah YHWH.) Indeed, they became slaves to the malevolent “creator angels” and the things of their world.

“The Catholic Church,” by accepting the “Hebrew Bible” in its “literal interpretation,” mistook the tribal god, Jehovah (YHWH-Satanael) for the Supreme Being-Heavenly Father- El. In imitation of old Israel, the Church set about establishing a political and religious empire. Only the Gnostic Christians stood in their way. The Gnostics quickly found themselves viciously denounced as heretics, their sacred books banned and burnt. Thanks to the miraculous discovery of several Gnostic scriptures at Nag Hammadi in Egypt, just fifty years ago, we can gain a better insight into the Gnostic Christian communities of the early centuries AD.

A Gnostic work uncovered at Nag Hammadi called “The Apocalypse of Adam,” is an enlightening account of the creation of Adam and Eve. This book, dating from the first century, may be an attempt to reconstruct the original Genesis.

Adam is said to declare:
“When god had created me out of the earth along with Eve your mother, I went about with her in a glory which she had seen in the aeon from which we had come forth” [Realm of Light]. She taught me a word of knowledge of the eternal God-And we resembled the great eternal angels, for we were higher than the god who had created us and the powers with him, whom we did not know.” Then god/Jehovah (YHWH-Satanael, the Demiurge), the ruler of the aeons and the powers, divided us in wrath. Then we became two aeons. And the glory in our heart(s) left us. After those days the eternal knowledge of the God of Truth (Heavenly Father (El) withdrew from me and your mother, Eve. Since this time we learned about dead things, like men. Then we recognized the god/Jehovah (YHWH-Satanael, the Demiurge) who had created us. For, we were not strangers to his powers. And we “served him in fear and slavery.”

The Gnostics understood that there are many different orders of beings. Their writings refer to numerous hierarchies of spiritual entities, both of “the Light” and of “the Darkness.” These beings not only move in the subtle frequencies, but can also take form in the physical dimension. Like the Essenes and Jesus, the Gnostics recognized the ability of "angels" to embody themselves in the flesh. The fallen angels were most often termed rulers or Archons, and the chief Archon known by various names such as Satanael, Jehovah, Ildabaoth, Sacklas, Satan, Sammael, etc. They possessed the power to create bodies and believed themselves to be ‘gods’. As a consequence of their degraded state, they are hostile to humanity and attempt to prevent mankind from attaining spiritual liberation.

John A. Keel, author of Disneyland of the Gods, and Our Haunted Planet, argues that the late 20th century interest in extraterrestrials, aliens and UFOs is just a modern day attempt to come to terms with the same forces other peoples and cultures once identified as "demons" or "fallen angels":

The “flying saucers” are merely another frame of reference to provide us with acceptable explanations for some of these grotesque events. An invisible phenomenon is always stalking us and manipulating our beliefs. We see only what it chooses to let us see, and we usually react.

The notion that the human body is the work of “malevolent” creator angels remarkably parallels the idea that extraterrestrials engaged in genetic engineering to ‘create’ Homo sapiens. Are we dealing with exactly the same phenomenon? Did the Gnostics know the truth about Man’s real origin and the unseen powers that seek to keep human beings in bondage? Are the malevolent creator angels who, say the Gnostics, stole spiritual beings and trapped them in physical bodies, the same as the extraterrestrial creator gods of Sumeria?

Consider the following observation of a modern Gnostic scholar, Dr. Stephen Hoeller:

The star-angels and other ruling spirits appear as tyrannical, limiting agencies in this Gnostic view. They are usurpers who lord it over humanity and creation in order to enhance their own “self-importance and glory.” It is incumbent upon the “knower” to realize this and to extricate himself from the grasp of these powers whenever possible. The existential predicament of human life lies in the uncomfortable dominance to which these lesser “godlings” subject the spirits of human beings and from “which only the experiential realization of Gnosis can extricate them” (Jung and the Lost Gospels.)

The “creator angels” or Archons are also characterized as terrible powers or forces of negativity and illusion. They are “cosmic Prison Warders” seeking to keep their human charges bound to the Earth. Caught up in the illusions of material existence, Man believes he is just a body and he cannot grasp the truth of his origin. This condition perpetuates spiritual blindness, leaving human kind in captivity to the Prison Warders.

However, the “Gnostics” never ceased from proclaiming that Man’s true being is not his body, and the material world is definitely not his true home. Man is a spiritual being and his purpose is to realize his higher Self (that light-spark exiled in the physical body.) His destiny is to return to the Realm of Light, his true home beyond the stars.

We must be reawakened to our origin, where we came from, how we became trapped on this planet, and how we can achieve liberation. The Gnostics urge us to escape from the trap of the world and open our eyes to our true origin.

Unfortunately, because, of the layers of confusion and the distractions that blind us, we cannot, of our own accord, escape this cycle of slavery. Our only recourse is found in “The Truth and the Truth is Jesus the Christ.”

If we adhere to his teachings and accept his offer of redemption, restoration can and will be ours. For He (and, only He) has paved the way, by “His Passion.”



Well done..I have the same research material, and come to the same conclusions. I wanted to keep it as simple as possible before introducing it. Nothing beats simplicity. Its the simple shit that stumps them every time...LOL


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What can I say-us good looking blokes simply think alike, huh? Tea?
Dismas Zoathan

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Maybe learning a musical instrument would help ease the sting of your oppression?
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With all due respect, HT, I don't get it: You own your own company, but you feel you've been given a raw deal because you can't travel the universe at the speed of thought as you please, and you're stuck in a vulnerable physical body. . .meanwhile, there are people in this world who have little alternative but to do degrading or ugly things just to feed their family, children who are trapped in some form of abuse, and single mothers who work 80 hours a week at minumum wage. I don't know you or your circumstances, but I'd bet ¾ of the world would love to step into your shoes.

Maybe learning a musical instrument would help ease the sting of your oppression?
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I'm thinking of my children and grandchildren. You're children and their children. I'm thinking about a world of lies that will continue for god knows how long. I want to bring the whole circus act down so no one has to work 80 hrs a week to support a family. For twenty years I've fought this system. My website has been shut down three times by the PTB. Its still down to this day. I don't mind loosing the big fight. What I couldn't live with is not fighting it.

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Who is Jehovah/Yahweh?

Christians should all honestly and thoroughly investigate the contradictions between the Old and New Testaments in terms of the descriptions of God.

The God of the New Testament is described as a God of love, mercy and peace.

The god of the Old Testament is described as jealous, vengeful god, a war-monger. He said "Thou shalt not kill", then proceeded to help the Israelites to brutally kill tens of thousands of Arabs in order to take their land.

Can the two Testaments possibly be talking about the same thing?

The 'god" of the Old Testament was actually a tribe of renegade space cannibals, with a leader named "Yahweh", who was the commander of a UFO spacecraft ("pillar of fire", "pillar of cloud", etc.) and a geneticist who cloned Adam and Eve from himself and put them on this planet which was already inhabited at that time, And the "first born sons" of the Israelites became road dinner for the "Jehovahs".

All of this may sound UN-believable to most Christians. But try reading the Old Testament with these things in mind. For example, read the part about one of the Old Testament characters, Jacob, I think, wrestling with god, and winning!

Also, notice that the god of the Old Testament is often referred to in the plural. (Use the King James Version). Some later versions are per-versions.)

See also the book The Lost Tribes From Outer Space, by Marc Dem and The Twelfth Planet, by Zecharia Sitchin.

- Robert E. McElwaine (USA), New Dawn Magazine, July 2001.

Virgil Armstrong calls Jehovah/Yahweh "head of the Lesser Gods".

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Who is Jehovah/Yahweh?

Christians should all honestly and thoroughly investigate the contradictions between the Old and New Testaments in terms of the descriptions of God.

The God of the New Testament is described as a God of love, mercy and peace.

The god of the Old Testament is described as jealous, vengeful god, a war-monger. He said "Thou shalt not kill", then proceeded to help the Israelites to brutally kill tens of thousands of Arabs in order to take their land.

Can the two Testaments possibly be talking about the same thing?

The 'god" of the Old Testament was actually a tribe of renegade space cannibals, with a leader named "Yahweh", who was the commander of a UFO spacecraft ("pillar of fire", "pillar of cloud", etc.) and a geneticist who cloned Adam and Eve from himself and put them on this planet which was already inhabited at that time, And the "first born sons" of the Israelites became road dinner for the "Jehovahs".

All of this may sound UN-believable to most Christians. But try reading the Old Testament with these things in mind. For example, read the part about one of the Old Testament characters, Jacob, I think, wrestling with god, and winning!

Also, notice that the god of the Old Testament is often referred to in the plural. (Use the King James Version). Some later versions are per-versions.)

See also the book The Lost Tribes From Outer Space, by Marc Dem and The Twelfth Planet, by Zecharia Sitchin.

- Robert E. McElwaine (USA), New Dawn Magazine, July 2001.

Virgil Armstrong calls Jehovah/Yahweh "head of the Lesser Gods".

[link to www.2012.com.au]
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(Since when are Arabs giant?)

The OT isn't all severity and judgment - the Psalms have plenty to say about God's more popular characteristics as well.

Suppose you have a fiancé you've pledged yourself to forever, and this love of yours is approached constantly by playas wanting to steal her/him away from you, and s/he actually begins to spend more time with them than with you. Would you become jealous? I would. Is that a bad thing, or should I just be cool and hope they think of me now & then while they're making out?

Most of us who are parents teach our kids not to play with fire or run into the street or throw scissors, and if they persist in ignoring these orders, we'll give them a good smack on the ass to get them to listen, because the consequences of *not* listening could be quite dangerous.
I know there are a lot of people who can't reconcile the old covenant God with the new, but if the One in the OT didn't care, he could have easily walked away after Genesis 3 and started over somewhere else. Or left the earth void and without form after whatever caused it to become that way, before humans even entered the picture.

The most common problem with assessing scripture is when we - you and I - take it at face value from an English translation, with no cultural understanding of the days and lands in which the accounts took place: Very little of it is going to make sense, and any conclusion we come to will be tainted.
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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Bump for Truth!
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well said OP

the truth is a hard one.
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well said OP

the truth is a hard one.
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And the Alien overlords through their false religions, have got us dumb humans to believe that our sufferings and misery is our fault because of the fall in Eden!

Evil, but brilliant!

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"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

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Re: YHWH the False Creator. YHWH the Creator of the Slave Race Man.
Okay guys, its like this:
YHWH is Anu, the leader of the Reptilian Anunnaki.
The ENEMIES of the Anunnaki are the Aryan/Nordic aliens. Following the Germanic tradition, I shall refer to them as "Ensi" and their leader as "Wuotan."
YHWH claims he made mankind, and wishes us to bow and be his slaves, follow his every word and be subservient out of FEAR. Wuotan claims HE made mankind, and wishes mankind to learn from the Ensi, who act as parents and teachers, and to gain in power and knowledge. He expects mankind to respect and honor the Ensi out of LOVE.
The Anunnaki claim that the Ensi are "fallen angels" who rebelled against YHWH out of pride for their own power. The Ensi claim that the Anunnaki are Ezan - monsters and titans who existed before the Ensi came into being.

The Ensi taught the humans (specifically the Aryans who worshiped them) the various sciences, farming, magic, war, smithcraft, etc. in order to foster the evolution and development of their culture. These Aryan tribes were the various peoples the Hebrews fought against, for they worshiped YHWH and despised the Aryans. The Aryans eventually left the Middle East and settled around the Black Sea where they continued to interact with the Ensi until they eventually misused the powers their Gods had given them, resulting in the flooding of the Black Sea and the dispersal of Aryans across Eurasia.

Meanwhile, YHWH ruled the Jews, his "chosen people" with an iron fist, forcing them to commit barbaric acts out of fear. through the ages he compiled the book of Reptilian propaganda now known as "the Bible," which he used to control the Jews, eventually selecting one of them to be his "son" and "the messiah." He infused this man, Jesus, with his Reptilian DNA and took over his mind, making him a cog in the Reptilian propaganda machine so that all mankind would follow his message of sheep-like ignorance and thus be easier to enslave.

Jesus' descendants, the Merovingians, Carolingians, Bushes and other ruling families, have spread the Reptilian agenda across the earth and kept the Aryans enslaved, converting them to the Reptilian mind control program called Christianity. The world governments and organized religions seem, for the most part, inundated by the Reptilian apathy drug, and those who aren't mindless drones are fighting amongst themselves, thus weakening the population. Still, many are turning to the old Aryan Gods and denying the monotheistic mind control religion.

The struggle will continue until the great battle when the Annunaki will return to earth to claim their prize, and the Ensi will appear to defend mankind from the Reptilian overlords. This great battle is referred to as "Reginorahha" in the Old High German, but it is better known as the Norse "Ragnarok." The Ensi and Anunnaki will bth be destroyed, but several Ensi will survive, and some will return from the realms of the dead, to rebuild the order of the cosmos and combat what remains of the forces of evil. The survivors from the human race - the vast majority of them being destroyed in the conflict - will repopulate and rebuild earth and human civilization.

So that's what I've figured out, and it all makes sense to me. Hopefully one of you will read it and say "hey, I get it now!" Then again, you'll probably just think I'm crazy. I mean, I pieced it all together from history, Germanic mythology, Biblical mythology, Sumerian mythology, alien conspiracy theories and whatnot, but it all pretty much fits. I mean, what if the "Second Coming" is Locho/Loki and the "Antichrist" is Heimtal/Heimdall? Each side views the other one as the epitome of evil and themselves as the benefactor of mankind (whether that means teaching and protecting or enslavement for a "greater good.")

Anyway, that's what I've got so far. Being that I'm not a Christian, my beliefs are subject to change, but as for now, this is my ultimate theory on the fate of the earth and the state of cosmic politics. Enjoy.
Religion and science do not have to contradict each other. Those who follow science say the universe is unbelievably vast and could not have been created for us alone. It is quite possible, even probable, that other races, far more intelligent than us, live in the vastness of the cosmos. Perhaps the Gods man has worshiped throughout his history, who have, according to myth, come down and taught him in ancient times, are indeed highly advanced extraterrestrials. My understanding of the cosmos operates on this premise.
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Re: YHWH the False Creator. YHWH the Creator of the Slave Race Man.
Then shed your fleshy shell and freely roam the Universe. In this lifetime, 48 years worth this time around, I've spent so much time exploring the Universe and I have flesh as you.

Stop bitching and be a better Verb by opening your mind and your heart and combine the two to do anything you want to do!

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Ive got a feeling that YHWH got into big trouble for creating man. Set into motion something bigger than even he could comprehend....Speculation? Maybe.


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Yes, with a fragile human body, short 70-120 year life span, a propensity for obesity, diseases and a body chemically suscepatble to addictions like drugs, sex, alcohol. Along with being stuck on a mosquito planet with hot summers and cold winters. I would say all of this was ill designed.

As RIBBIT Toad said, there is a Universe, we are but a fleck of dust and ill designed creation. A man must come along with a iron rod and break the pottery and we'll be free to explore better things on a better planet one day. HELL YEAH !
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I'm thinking of my children and grandchildren. You're children and their children. I'm thinking about a world of lies that will continue for god knows how long. I want to bring the whole circus act down so no one has to work 80 hrs a week to support a family. For twenty years I've fought this system. My website has been shut down three times by the PTB. Its still down to this day. I don't mind loosing the big fight. What I couldn't live with is not fighting it.

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UH, what you are thinking of is called ANTICHRIST. HE WILL BRING THE WHOLE CIRCUS ACT DOWN. ANTICHRIST IS CHRIST WITH THE IRON ROD. THE MAN ON THE WHITE HORSE. SURPRISE ! ANTICHRIST/CHRIST, SAME PROPHECY BLENDED TOGETHER< SAME THING. LETS SEE IF OTHERS CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.

but yeah, im tired of this crazy circus too. At this oil gusher corporate rape speed were going, there wont be anything left for the children.
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NOTE, I SAID CHRIST, NOT JESUS,

JESUS WAS A COWARD WHO DIDNT PROTECT HIS PEOPLE AND LET WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND HIS PEOPLE DIE TO THE ROMANS. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ROME. JUST COWARDS WHO CANT STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND BECOME A REAL KING.

CAUSE OF HIM RELIGION WAS LONG AND DRAWN OUT FOR TWO THOUSAND MORE YEARS.

THE CHRIST KING IS STILL TO BE , A REAL KING THAT WILL BRING TRUE LIBERTY TO THE WHOLE EARTH !





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