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Breaking: FRANCE BLOCKS LORRY MOVEMENT FROM UK - UK GOVERNMENT IN SHAMBLES, WORRIES ABOUT SUPERMARKET SUPPLY CHAINS

 
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Here we are as winter is here and snows could fall, and the vast majority are in urban zones were it is the least safe and there is no possibility of getting supplies in an emergency.

Please won't listen and if the SHTF, you are fucked. I'm tired of telling fools. The average American ony has between 10-14 days of food if they ate every scrap and that only works if the power doesn't fail.
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You ain't got a lick of sense. All you can pay attention to is my rushed spelling'.

Wake the fuck up. At least have 2 months of food.
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... air drops? ...
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... don't know which country would/could do it? ...
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You could never air drop enough food. Come on.

You should now realize the first thing that happens in a civil war between the rural regions and urban regions is cutting off supplies. It takes an immense amount of food coming in every day and that doesn't inckude everytging elselike chlorine analogues for water purification. In America, city water treatment has about 14 days on hand, and then they got zip.
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FUNNY TO WATCH YOU UKERS AND BRITS FIGHT AMONGST
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GOD ABOVE ALL
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Here we are as winter is here and snows could fall, and the vast majority are in urban zones were it is the least safe and there is no possibility of getting supplies in an emergency.

Please won't listen and if the SHTF, you are fucked. I'm tired of telling fools. The average American ony has between 10-14 days of food if they ate every scrap and that only works if the power doesn't fail.
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WHAT IF YOU RATION
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Strange fact, stock market was down about 7-8 percent on all vaccine produces I was monitoring - Astra Zeneca, Pfizer, Biontech, Moderna. It looks like someone expects vaccine does not work and investment was useless. Insiders probably.

Another thing - brits don't take it personally, it is just fear and panic fromn EU, also Turkey, Saudi Arabia and other countries are freezing the border. By tomorrow morning probably all the planet will lock the border with UK (via Airways where applicable). This mutation is too big to be ignored, bringing everything back to square one or worse.
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The whole world locks us out, what the fuck do they think is going to happen in these next 48hrs? The new strain has been out a week now so why the sudden shut down a week later?
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Despite the streets being littered with dropped rifles (only used once!) and lots of tanks backing up through town, we at least have well-stocked supermarkets and an abundance of vegetables and all sorts of luxury foods.

France has been fertile land for humans for 10,000s of years, covid ain’t gonna change that. However it is going to make everything more local.

Next steps will be the larger EU countries dealing with regional conflicts as we regress to the Middle Ages.
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Here we are as winter is here and snows could fall, and the vast majority are in urban zones were it is the least safe and there is no possibility of getting supplies in an emergency.

Please won't listen and if the SHTF, you are fucked. I'm tired of telling fools. The average American ony has between 10-14 days of food if they ate every scrap and that only works if the power doesn't fail.
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WHAT IF YOU RATION
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Most people would be idiots and save food and it would spoil in some way.

The smart way you ration is you eat a small meal and then a slightly larger meal and then a slightly larger meal. So the brain sees caloroes are increasing but inadequate and blood glucose is maintained so induces lipolysis...ie fat burning. That is what are supposed to do.

If you do what most people think to do, they slowly restrict rations, so blood glucose plummets. So the brain induces gluconeogenesis and that causes muscle wasting. Eventually that causes hypogycemia and Kussmaul breathing and organ failure.
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Strange fact, stock market was down about 7-8 percent on all vaccine produces I was monitoring - Astra Zeneca, Pfizer, Biontech, Moderna. It looks like someone expects vaccine does not work and investment was useless. Insiders probably.

Another thing - brits don't take it personally, it is just fear and panic fromn EU, also Turkey, Saudi Arabia and other countries are freezing the border. By tomorrow morning probably all the planet will lock the border with UK (via Airways where applicable). This mutation is too big to be ignored, bringing everything back to square one or worse.
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The whole world locks us out, what the fuck do they think is going to happen in these next 48hrs? The new strain has been out a week now so why the sudden shut down a week later?
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Don't underestimate the incompetence of the politicians. Stock market knew it from Monday last week, politicians had to be told by Boris Jonson. The 48 hours is just to gather more info as they dont understand the situation.

The virus can even be good news, if is less deadly and spreads more then its vaccine replacement. They juts don't know so they want more info.
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What the UK needs to immediately do is get organized so water purification has on hand at least 45 days to help if the logistics is screwed. Clean water is your first priority, not food.

For about $500 so probably $750 for you, you can buy 3 months of dry food like beans, rice, flour, yeast, baking soda, powdered dry milk, lard, vitamins, infant formula, nuts, corn meal, sugar, etc. I would suggest each block have pool shock as that can be made into bleach and so you can save the whole neighborhood.
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Will there still be an England when we wake up tomorrow? I mean, cut off from the continent and all...
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Every prepper manual emphasizes the importance of adequate blood glucose levels as everyone under stress is doing lots of work like chopping firewood or hauling water. Low blood sugar makes people weak and they pass out. You have to have ways to get some kind of sugar as the brain requires sugar.

People are foolish and think then need more amino acids but excess qmino acids are urinated out. There is no biochemical process to store amino acids.

The only way is gluconeogenesis and you never ever want that as that causes muscle wasting typically called rabbit starvation. Some poor rural people eat more rabbit and use up caloresand so starve faster, then piss out the excess protein in a viscious cruel cycle.
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I thought the British had nukes.
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Those igredients I listed can result in protein, fat, carbs, and vitamins. You want to make sure that when do extralabor you and your family, especially moms who might get pregnant have vitamins and especially iron, calcium, and Vitamin C and folic acid.

Otherwise they could miscarry. Kids could get hair breakage and malnutrition and stunted bones.

Please take this seriously. You know the USA will try to help with air drops, but it would be an enormous amount and every day. How long can we do that?
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When the food tapers off and grocery empty, there will be panic. so yu got a window of opportunity and you want have stuff on hand. Canned goods is fine but expensive. Whereas dry is cheaper and so you money goes fartherbut requires cooking.

How will you cook? I suggest a Dakota Hole fire or a a rocket stove made of bricks as either use very little wood.

Scared people will wig out as they won't be able to cook and many can't cook a potato or an egg, much less make a stew.

The old fashioned way is called haybox cooking. That uses very little wood.
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Soup made this way simmers until it is done.
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Looks like covid fear mongering of new strain has backfired on gov, have they unexpectedly caused panic buying?
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This could go into a UK verses France/NATO war. Warships on both sides miscalculate the situation and the shooting will start in the English channel as well as the North Atlantic.
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The most expensive food is freeze dried a d it is low calorie as fat goes rancid in that process so the fat is removed. When in survival mode, you needthat fat. Every cook under survival situationsadds alittle oil or lard to boost calories.

You could use protein powder or TFP if a vegetarian. But plain old pinto beans and rice is cheap and nutritious. You want mixed essential amino acids. See eating just corn gets you half or eating beans gets you half. You want to mix several kinds so you get all the essential amino acids.

People are broke and this the least expensive way. And if you got food, you will be calmer whereas your neighbors will be freaking out.
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Another kind of haybox cooking.
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Root vegetables stay fresher longer, so onions, potatoes, turnips, carrots will last and so they are welcome when food is scarce.

Your family's morale will go to shit unless you are smart and buy a a simple dessert mix or have canned apples or preserves or honey or similar. They need the calories and little treats created the illusion of normality. Every there family is wigging out and your family has apple cobbler and is managing their emotions.
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That $750 spent is months and months of supplemental food as maybe the government organizes and you supplement what they give you. Have some spam and tuna with oil on hand as that will improve your familiy's morale.

That food will not go bad,just rotate it and so the pinto beans don't get hard.

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Pita bread is the easiest bread as it can be made on a grill or the stove. Baking bread is hard. Biscuits can be made in a dutvh oven but need coals and that takes time. Pita is way easier.
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That $750 spent is months and months of supplemental food as maybe the government organizes and you supplement what they give you. Have some spam and tuna with oil on hand as that will improve your familiy's morale.

That food will not go bad,just rotate it and so the pinto beans don't get hard.

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Pita bread is the easiest bread as it can be made on a grill or the stove. Baking bread is hard. Biscuits can be made in a dutvh oven but need coals and that takes time. Pita is way easier.
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Good tips bro, but wheat is very bad for your health. Rice + beans much better.
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If this actually happens, there will be anarchy in London. I suggest you double up with elderly family members as it probably will be dangerous to go outside and bad things might happen to aged widows who can't cook and take care of things especially if there are break ins. Desperate people presume you have food even if you have nothing.

Medicines could run out. How will you manage without your regular medications? Do you really want your husband to leave and go check on his mom and leave you alone with kids and be scared?
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Get some extra coffee and use that as a trade item. Anything like that say cocoa or good Sri Lankan tea. Then maybe you need something they got.

Have bouillion on hand as everything will taste bland.
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So no we have to worry about the Brits starving because they are only going to be eating rabbits?
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That $750 spent is months and months of supplemental food as maybe the government organizes and you supplement what they give you. Have some spam and tuna with oil on hand as that will improve your familiy's morale.

That food will not go bad,just rotate it and so the pinto beans don't get hard.

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Pita bread is the easiest bread as it can be made on a grill or the stove. Baking bread is hard. Biscuits can be made in a dutvh oven but need coals and that takes time. Pita is way easier.
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Good tips bro, but wheat is very bad for your health. Rice + beans much better.
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Brown is healthier than white.
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Figure out how you can secure the garage door and patio door and front door so if they try to break-in, then you make it harder so they move on to an easier home.

I can't imagine not having firearms. That is insane. What can you reasonably use as a weapon like a club?

And when things are hairy, you keep night watches, so nobody sleeps more than four hours, and never falls asleep on watch. Drink lots of water as it makes you have to micturate so waking is easier and you don't fall asleep. The teaand coffee will run out. Have some caffeine pills.
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When people eat rabbits, typically they have hypoglglycemia at the same time. The body breaks down muscle and so they get weaker. The heart is a muscle, right?It damages the heart. And protein has half thecaloroes of fat, and you can only use so much amino acids, then piss out the rest. This is why every survivor on the Alone tv series might eat many rabbits and starve to death at the same time.





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