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What EXACTLY is the liberal dream of a "Utopian" society?

 
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Liberal Dreaming.

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I'm a liberal so I'll explain:

Conservatives fuck off to a different country and compete with each other until they are all slaves to a corporation. They can go ahead and be racists, pollute all you want on your own land, and illegalize all drugs, gambling, and science.

The rest of us redistribute all of the billionaires wealth, supply free higher education and healthcare, design new technologies, heal with psychedelics, and have a constant and endless stream of festivals, creative expression, and artistic/scientific spaces.
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Once you steal money from your "billionaires" - which won't be enough to do anything - where do you expect to acquire the money and resources to pay the teachers at your institutions of higher learning; the doctors at your psychedelic clinics; and the stagehands and performers at your endless festivals?

Perhaps they will be expected to work for free. How just and fair.
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Marxists are so stupid, defeating them in debate is child's play.
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"Marxist"

Anyone who doesn't let multimillionaires run their cocks all the way down their throats and the throats of their wives and children

Congratulations conservacuck.

Keep worshipping millionaires. It's literally all you're good for.
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You're categories of hatred are a little outdated. Being a millionaire isn't much of an accomplishment anymore.
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What’s funny is 99% of you dumb shits would actually live a better life under socialism. But they aren’t preaching that or implementing it. You morans just believe everything you read,
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I'm a liberal so I'll explain:

Conservatives fuck off to a different country and compete with each other until they are all slaves to a corporation. They can go ahead and be racists, pollute all you want on your own land, and illegalize all drugs, gambling, and science.

The rest of us redistribute all of the billionaires wealth, supply free higher education and healthcare, design new technologies, heal with psychedelics, and have a constant and endless stream of festivals, creative expression, and artistic/scientific spaces.
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Liberal Utopia...Everything is free but there isn't any.
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Nothing is free. Progressive society creates opportunity in equal measure. That's all.

But you conservative fucks will never understand because you're a slave to the past and out oded ways of thinking, such as religion.
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Impossible. People are not equally endowed with talent, determination, intelligence or native ability of any kind. Social engineering ends in destruction.
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People are equally endowed with the desire to make something of themselves and succeed dumbfuck.

If you want to be lazy and die alone as a failure, you should have the opportunity to.

If you want to succeed and have avenues open to be educated, you should have the opportunity to.

That's a fair society.
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Liberal Utopia...Everything is free but there isn't any.
 Quoting: kpow


Nothing is free. Progressive society creates opportunity in equal measure. That's all.

But you conservative fucks will never understand because you're a slave to the past and out oded ways of thinking, such as religion.
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


Impossible. People are not equally endowed with talent, determination, intelligence or native ability of any kind. Social engineering ends in destruction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


People are equally endowed with the desire to make something of themselves and succeed dumbfuck.

If you want to be lazy and die alone as a failure, you should have the opportunity to.

If you want to succeed and have avenues open to be educated, you should have the opportunity to.

That's a fair society.
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Attempts to equalize outcomes cannot succeed. And people are not equally endowed with the desire to make something of themselves. Many are lazy and stupid.

What avenues to success and education are you referring to that you seem to indicate aren't open?
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Nothing is free. Progressive society creates opportunity in equal measure. That's all.

But you conservative fucks will never understand because you're a slave to the past and out oded ways of thinking, such as religion.
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


Impossible. People are not equally endowed with talent, determination, intelligence or native ability of any kind. Social engineering ends in destruction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


People are equally endowed with the desire to make something of themselves and succeed dumbfuck.

If you want to be lazy and die alone as a failure, you should have the opportunity to.

If you want to succeed and have avenues open to be educated, you should have the opportunity to.

That's a fair society.
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


Attempts to equalize outcomes cannot succeed. And people are not equally endowed with the desire to make something of themselves. Many are lazy and stupid.

What avenues to success and education are you referring to that you seem to indicate aren't open?
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I said opportunity dumbshit.

In case you didn't notice, higher education is insanely expensive and historically unobtainable to certain classes.
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Impossible. People are not equally endowed with talent, determination, intelligence or native ability of any kind. Social engineering ends in destruction.
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People are equally endowed with the desire to make something of themselves and succeed dumbfuck.

If you want to be lazy and die alone as a failure, you should have the opportunity to.

If you want to succeed and have avenues open to be educated, you should have the opportunity to.

That's a fair society.
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


Attempts to equalize outcomes cannot succeed. And people are not equally endowed with the desire to make something of themselves. Many are lazy and stupid.

What avenues to success and education are you referring to that you seem to indicate aren't open?
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I said opportunity dumbshit.

In case you didn't notice, higher education is insanely expensive and historically unobtainable to certain classes.
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Victims studies degrees are very expensive.
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People are equally endowed with the desire to make something of themselves and succeed dumbfuck.

If you want to be lazy and die alone as a failure, you should have the opportunity to.

If you want to succeed and have avenues open to be educated, you should have the opportunity to.

That's a fair society.
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


Attempts to equalize outcomes cannot succeed. And people are not equally endowed with the desire to make something of themselves. Many are lazy and stupid.

What avenues to success and education are you referring to that you seem to indicate aren't open?
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I said opportunity dumbshit.

In case you didn't notice, higher education is insanely expensive and historically unobtainable to certain classes.
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Victims studies degrees are very expensive.
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Exactly, since you're a conservative and don't give a shit about anyone else, that's why you need to leave.

That's the liberal dream.
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Attempts to equalize outcomes cannot succeed. And people are not equally endowed with the desire to make something of themselves. Many are lazy and stupid.

What avenues to success and education are you referring to that you seem to indicate aren't open?
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I said opportunity dumbshit.

In case you didn't notice, higher education is insanely expensive and historically unobtainable to certain classes.
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Victims studies degrees are very expensive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283

Exactly, since you're a conservative and don't give a shit about anyone else, that's why you need to leave.

That's the liberal dream.
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Traditional conservative people don't automatically hate Marxists at a personal level. But exposing the true nature of unhinged Marxists is often conflated with hatred.
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I said opportunity dumbshit.

In case you didn't notice, higher education is insanely expensive and historically unobtainable to certain classes.
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Victims studies degrees are very expensive.
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Exactly, since you're a conservative and don't give a shit about anyone else, that's why you need to leave.

That's the liberal dream.
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Traditional conservative people don't automatically hate Marxists at a personal level. But exposing the true nature of unhinged Marxists is often conflated with hatred.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


When you people that suck the dicks of corporate politicians, you who own not a single asset outright, and that have mortgaged your future and given undying loyalty to the military Industrial complex, start criticizing another's political point of view.

It's always a special event
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Victims studies degrees are very expensive.
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Exactly, since you're a conservative and don't give a shit about anyone else, that's why you need to leave.

That's the liberal dream.
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Traditional conservative people don't automatically hate Marxists at a personal level. But exposing the true nature of unhinged Marxists is often conflated with hatred.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


When you people that suck the dicks of corporate politicians, you who own not a single asset outright, and that have mortgaged your future and given undying loyalty to the military Industrial complex, start criticizing another's political point of view.

It's always a special event
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Many traditional conservative people are highly critical of what passes for the economic system right now. It is in fact a form of state-sanctioned corporate monopolism as opposed to the free-market, hands-off capitalist system that allowed this country to prosper.

That being said, Marxism is not simply a political point of view. It is a secular religion, an economic system and a philosophy.

So any criticism aimed at Marxism is not merely political, but directed also at the delusional utopian aims that encompass the social aspects.
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The GLP just doesn't know anything about liberals they're pretty "liberal" in using the word I still don't know what liberal means.

Forget it guys these guys don't want to be educated they're fine being monkeys swinging shit at each other because it entertains them.

Should be expected from a forum which all they do is complain about politics and the reason to complain about politics is because they wants stuff done for them and want Trump to do it and want this guy to do it or some other person these same shit talkers I think they know what they're talking about won't go into politics themselves because they know their inner truth, that they are that liberal that they think we are but incarnate.

This is literally just another thread of the GLP talking shit and being worthless as usual. Only a formful and nobody's would make up a character called the nobody.
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The trap is set watch these fools poke their own eyes
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Exactly, since you're a conservative and don't give a shit about anyone else, that's why you need to leave.

That's the liberal dream.
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Traditional conservative people don't automatically hate Marxists at a personal level. But exposing the true nature of unhinged Marxists is often conflated with hatred.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


When you people that suck the dicks of corporate politicians, you who own not a single asset outright, and that have mortgaged your future and given undying loyalty to the military Industrial complex, start criticizing another's political point of view.

It's always a special event
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


Many traditional conservative people are highly critical of what passes for the economic system right now. It is in fact a form of state-sanctioned corporate monopolism as opposed to the free-market, hands-off capitalist system that allowed this country to prosper.

That being said, Marxism is not simply a political point of view. It is a secular religion, an economic system and a philosophy.

So any criticism aimed at Marxism is not merely political, but directed also at the delusional utopian aims that encompass the social aspects.
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You do realize liberalism =\= marxism.

Or did you learn your political science from Rush Limbaugh
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Traditional conservative people don't automatically hate Marxists at a personal level. But exposing the true nature of unhinged Marxists is often conflated with hatred.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


When you people that suck the dicks of corporate politicians, you who own not a single asset outright, and that have mortgaged your future and given undying loyalty to the military Industrial complex, start criticizing another's political point of view.

It's always a special event
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


Many traditional conservative people are highly critical of what passes for the economic system right now. It is in fact a form of state-sanctioned corporate monopolism as opposed to the free-market, hands-off capitalist system that allowed this country to prosper.

That being said, Marxism is not simply a political point of view. It is a secular religion, an economic system and a philosophy.

So any criticism aimed at Marxism is not merely political, but directed also at the delusional utopian aims that encompass the social aspects.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


You do realize liberalism =\= marxism.

Or did you learn your political science from Rush Limbaugh
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


I can only take you at your word and free LSD, free Burning Man tickets, free victims studies degrees and free condos on the beach is Marxism, sorry.
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When you people that suck the dicks of corporate politicians, you who own not a single asset outright, and that have mortgaged your future and given undying loyalty to the military Industrial complex, start criticizing another's political point of view.

It's always a special event
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


Many traditional conservative people are highly critical of what passes for the economic system right now. It is in fact a form of state-sanctioned corporate monopolism as opposed to the free-market, hands-off capitalist system that allowed this country to prosper.

That being said, Marxism is not simply a political point of view. It is a secular religion, an economic system and a philosophy.

So any criticism aimed at Marxism is not merely political, but directed also at the delusional utopian aims that encompass the social aspects.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


You do realize liberalism =\= marxism.

Or did you learn your political science from Rush Limbaugh
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


I can only take you at your word and free LSD, free Burning Man tickets, free victims studies degrees and free condos on the beach is Marxism, sorry.
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Pretty sure I said free education and healthcare dumbshit.

Listening to every Rush Limbaugh radio show on the archives doesn't count. In fact, appears as though it's actually made you slightly retarded.
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Many traditional conservative people are highly critical of what passes for the economic system right now. It is in fact a form of state-sanctioned corporate monopolism as opposed to the free-market, hands-off capitalist system that allowed this country to prosper.

That being said, Marxism is not simply a political point of view. It is a secular religion, an economic system and a philosophy.

So any criticism aimed at Marxism is not merely political, but directed also at the delusional utopian aims that encompass the social aspects.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


You do realize liberalism =\= marxism.

Or did you learn your political science from Rush Limbaugh
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


I can only take you at your word and free LSD, free Burning Man tickets, free victims studies degrees and free condos on the beach is Marxism, sorry.
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Pretty sure I said free education and healthcare dumbshit.

Listening to every Rush Limbaugh radio show on the archives doesn't count. In fact, appears as though it's actually made you slightly retarded.
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You said free psychedelics along with a lot of other free stuff. Free stuff is Marxism.

Why are you unwilling to work to earn things? Most people accept that some effort on their part is required to attain valuable outcomes.
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You do realize liberalism =\= marxism.

Or did you learn your political science from Rush Limbaugh
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I can only take you at your word and free LSD, free Burning Man tickets, free victims studies degrees and free condos on the beach is Marxism, sorry.
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Pretty sure I said free education and healthcare dumbshit.

Listening to every Rush Limbaugh radio show on the archives doesn't count. In fact, appears as though it's actually made you slightly retarded.
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


You said free psychedelics along with a lot of other free stuff. Free stuff is Marxism.

Why are you unwilling to work to earn things? Most people accept that some effort on their part is required to attain valuable outcomes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


But regardless. In your free healthcare and free colleges, will the doctors and professors be expected to work for free too?
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You do realize liberalism =\= marxism.

Or did you learn your political science from Rush Limbaugh
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I can only take you at your word and free LSD, free Burning Man tickets, free victims studies degrees and free condos on the beach is Marxism, sorry.
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Pretty sure I said free education and healthcare dumbshit.

Listening to every Rush Limbaugh radio show on the archives doesn't count. In fact, appears as though it's actually made you slightly retarded.
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


You said free psychedelics along with a lot of other free stuff. Free stuff is Marxism.

Why are you unwilling to work to earn things? Most people accept that some effort on their part is required to attain valuable outcomes.
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I said weed grows in the ground and the only reason it's not free is because conservative dick suckers like you.

Did you know pot was a plant?

They don't teach that on the rush limbaugh radio show. It actually didn't come from satan.

Keep loving your corporate overlords. I know how fun it is for you to work 50 hours a week and not have enough to retire by the time you're 75.

That's just why the rest of us want your dumbasses to leave
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What is it that they are hoping to achieve with all of their lies and destruction of civil society?

They never explain exactly what it is that they want. It is always some ambiguous "fairness" and "justice" and "equality" without anything specific?
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What do you mean?

They specifically ask for no bail, no jail, legal drugs, defund police

basically the third world is their utopia
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I can only take you at your word and free LSD, free Burning Man tickets, free victims studies degrees and free condos on the beach is Marxism, sorry.
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Pretty sure I said free education and healthcare dumbshit.

Listening to every Rush Limbaugh radio show on the archives doesn't count. In fact, appears as though it's actually made you slightly retarded.
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


You said free psychedelics along with a lot of other free stuff. Free stuff is Marxism.

Why are you unwilling to work to earn things? Most people accept that some effort on their part is required to attain valuable outcomes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


I said weed grows in the ground and the only reason it's not free is because conservative dick suckers like you.

Did you know pot was a plant?

They don't teach that on the rush limbaugh radio show. It actually didn't come from satan.

Keep loving your corporate overlords. I know how fun it is for you to work 50 hours a week and not have enough to retire by the time you're 75.

That's just why the rest of us want your dumbasses to leave
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That's fine, smoke all the weed you want.

On point, do you expect doctors and professors to work for free while providing medical treatment and educational services at no charge to the patients and students?
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I can only take you at your word and free LSD, free Burning Man tickets, free victims studies degrees and free condos on the beach is Marxism, sorry.
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Pretty sure I said free education and healthcare dumbshit.

Listening to every Rush Limbaugh radio show on the archives doesn't count. In fact, appears as though it's actually made you slightly retarded.
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


You said free psychedelics along with a lot of other free stuff. Free stuff is Marxism.

Why are you unwilling to work to earn things? Most people accept that some effort on their part is required to attain valuable outcomes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


But regardless. In your free healthcare and free colleges, will the doctors and professors be expected to work for free too?
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Nah a wealth tax and civil liability restrictions would cover that just fine. Professors would be paid slightly more, doctors slightly less. Not the end of the world.
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You do realize liberalism =\= marxism.

Or did you learn your political science from Rush Limbaugh
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I can only take you at your word and free LSD, free Burning Man tickets, free victims studies degrees and free condos on the beach is Marxism, sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


Pretty sure I said free education and healthcare dumbshit.

Listening to every Rush Limbaugh radio show on the archives doesn't count. In fact, appears as though it's actually made you slightly retarded.
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


You said free psychedelics along with a lot of other free stuff. Free stuff is Marxism.

Why are you unwilling to work to earn things? Most people accept that some effort on their part is required to attain valuable outcomes.
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If free stuff is marxist, I guess that makes Trump the most marxist politician of all time.
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Liberalism was always a guise/cover/Trojan Horse for Communism and ultimately Satanism. (Socialism is Communism-lite.)

The "Liberal" dream of a Utopian society is therefore the opposite of a Utopian society pretending to be a Utopian society.

The Archonic inversion/Orwellian doublespeak.

Our system (humanity) got a virus (Satanic/archonic AI), but despite how it looks, our system is healing.
"What you think, you become." - Buddha
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Pretty sure I said free education and healthcare dumbshit.

Listening to every Rush Limbaugh radio show on the archives doesn't count. In fact, appears as though it's actually made you slightly retarded.
 Quoting: Friendlyfriendguy


You said free psychedelics along with a lot of other free stuff. Free stuff is Marxism.

Why are you unwilling to work to earn things? Most people accept that some effort on their part is required to attain valuable outcomes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


But regardless. In your free healthcare and free colleges, will the doctors and professors be expected to work for free too?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781283


Nah a wealth tax and civil liability restrictions would cover that just fine. Professors would be paid slightly more, doctors slightly less. Not the end of the world.
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Oh. So it's not free? Money has to be used for it.

A wealth tax to pay for the benefits you propose would be over 90% to pay for all your goodies.

And civil liability restrictions? You would prevent injured parties, crippled children maimed by careless doctors, from getting justice via the courts? The plaintiff bar being one of the only methods by which the powerless can face off against a giant soulless corporation and prevail?

I think the Kamraden will want their Party card back from you.

On to the free housing. Would homebuilders be forced to build houses for free? Or maybe the government would take over residential construction?
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Re: What EXACTLY is the liberal dream of a "Utopian" society?
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Attempts to equalize outcomes cannot succeed. And people are not equally endowed with the desire to make something of themselves. Many are lazy and stupid.

What avenues to success and education are you referring to that you seem to indicate aren't open?
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I said opportunity dumbshit.

In case you didn't notice, higher education is insanely expensive and historically unobtainable to certain classes.
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Victims studies degrees are very expensive.
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Exactly, since you're a conservative and don't give a shit about anyone else, that's why you need to leave.

That's the liberal dream.
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HeY money grows on trees.
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What is it that they are hoping to achieve with all of their lies and destruction of civil society?

They never explain exactly what it is that they want. It is always some ambiguous "fairness" and "justice" and "equality" without anything specific?
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Yeah, you guys are the one doing the destruction. You won't have a conversation with them that isn't coated in willful misunderstanding or paranoia - you won't actually LISTEN.

The vast majority of liberals have no confusion that a utopian society is not and never will be in the cards. The vast majority just want it a bit better and want the system designed to serve the people rather than the people serving the system that serves the minority wealthiest individuals.

Try talking and listening to liberals instead of assuming and bringing only negativity with closed ears and hearts.
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You're literally Anakin Skywalker and his dear Empire. With exactly the same master.
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What is it that they are hoping to achieve with all of their lies and destruction of civil society?

They never explain exactly what it is that they want. It is always some ambiguous "fairness" and "justice" and "equality" without anything specific?
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Free money from the government while they sit at home and smoke pot and drink booze and party.

Sounds great until it doesn't work and hundreds of millions are ruthlessly killed.
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You said free psychedelics along with a lot of other free stuff. Free stuff is Marxism.

Why are you unwilling to work to earn things? Most people accept that some effort on their part is required to attain valuable outcomes.
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But regardless. In your free healthcare and free colleges, will the doctors and professors be expected to work for free too?
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Nah a wealth tax and civil liability restrictions would cover that just fine. Professors would be paid slightly more, doctors slightly less. Not the end of the world.
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Oh. So it's not free? Money has to be used for it.

A wealth tax to pay for the benefits you propose would be over 90% to pay for all your goodies.

And civil liability restrictions? You would prevent injured parties, crippled children maimed by careless doctors, from getting justice via the courts? The plaintiff bar being one of the only methods by which the powerless can face off against a giant soulless corporation and prevail?

I think the Kamraden will want their Party card back from you.

On to the free housing. Would homebuilders be forced to build houses for free? Or maybe the government would take over residential construction?
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Who said free housing? I said socialism has to be tempered by capitalism and vice versa.

This is the problem with a rush limbaugh education. There are actually adults who understand that not everything is black and white. Not all of us have to psychologically split when having political considerations.

I said civil liability restrictions, not eliminations. Suing for damages is one thing, suing for 30 million dollars pain and suffering is another.

And yes, all wealth over income cap of 100 million should be HIGHLY TAXED.

Because I'm not a celebrity loving, capitalist/monarchist DICKSUCKER.

When you have a system that's destroying the fucking planet, destroying a society, and tanking EVERYONE but a select minute few, it's time to change the fucking system..

Conservatives such as yourself fear change and haven't the slightest comprehension of progressive systems. That's why we want you to leave.
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Re: What EXACTLY is the liberal dream of a "Utopian" society?
You wont get an answer because in order to answer your question you have to define all different types of Liberals, for example, I consider myself an old school Liberal, to me that means small government for starts, not bigger government as its the case w many modern Liberals. There are many more differences but that could be biggest one.

Also, definition of Utopia... someone's Utopia might be someone elses hell...

To me defining a Utopian society would be hard... why?

Because I dont know what I dont know :)

As this is a conspiracy site, lets think of a conspiracy that if true then it would have such incredible effects on our existing society that it would change us...

I'd say the stuff about Tesla and free energy is a perfect example.

What if the rumours of him and JP Morgan are true?

Can you vision the consequences of that alone? what that means?

How would cars/vehicles that require no petrol/diesel affect the prices of everything? end of tourist industry, commercial planes, trains, taxis...

Oil production wont need to be as high, no need for so many tankers, ports, petrol stations.

If cars can levitate, then no need for tyres and all parts associated w it...roads, bridges, tunnels, car parks.

Thats a lot of people that would be out of a job and a lot of people that can travel pretty much anywhere for nothing.

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I guess what I am trying to say is that you cant envision an Utopia society properly until you know what sort of secrets that society has to deal with....

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Banking Conspiracies - If Rothschilds & co conspiracies are true then:

This means its all rigged so that we work 40+ hrs as normal to make ends meet.

A society in which its people have a lot of free time would probably have more parks/forests/communal areas/community events/family days, etc...

But u cant really have that w this economy.

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Perhaps is not about getting to be like an Utopia society...

Perhaps is about getting rid of elements within our societies right now that prevent us from becoming utopian organically... I gave 2 prime examples already.





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