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1700's Concept Of "ELECTION" IS PROBABLY OUTDATED & WE MUST COME UP WITH A SOLUTION OF THEFT OF ALL ELECTIONS WILL CONTINUE

 
HOW TO GO ABOUT IT?
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It's been said that there hasn't ever been a fair election here in the United States and many have facts to prove as much. The 'Blackboxvoting.org' website comes to mind.

I have always posited that the mettle of the men who created this nation, this republic - was an HONEST one, not the evil beasts we have running/ruining the nation now, where total dishonesty and evil dishonesty at that - is the norm.

We need a new form of election, new fair ways of counting any vote, if we are to be a nation anymore. Either that or have 50 SEPARATE NATIONS within our borders.
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Dual biometrics to open your ballot, check in on your vote later. Must be tied to Real ID.
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Dual biometrics to open your ballot, check in on your vote later. Must be tied to Real ID.
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Yes but then chinese communist software tabulates it, not, then tells you your vote was registered, but it wasn't.
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we shouldn't be voting for people, we should be voting on issues.

being able to only choose camp A or camp B when there is a long list of issues forces people to prioritize one issue and vote for that whole bundle.

not really an accurate representation of the will of the people.

leave the rest of the shorter term issues to the suits.
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It's been said that there hasn't ever been a fair election here in the United States and many have facts to prove as much. The 'Blackboxvoting.org' website comes to mind.

I have always posited that the mettle of the men who created this nation, this republic - was an HONEST one, not the evil beasts we have running/ruining the nation now, where total dishonesty and evil dishonesty at that - is the norm.

We need a new form of election, new fair ways of counting any vote, if we are to be a nation anymore. Either that or have 50 SEPARATE NATIONS within our borders.
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Don't even worry about FUTURE elections.

If we don't fix THIS one, that will all become a MOOT POINT, because it will literally be BEYOND OUR POWER to ever do ANYTHING about it.
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we shouldn't be voting for people, we should be voting on issues.

being able to only choose camp A or camp B when there is a long list of issues forces people to prioritize one issue and vote for that whole bundle.

not really an accurate representation of the will of the people.

leave the rest of the shorter term issues to the suits.
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This.

It’s 2020. Our elections aren’t outdated, it’s the politicians that are out dated.

We only need a small admin department. All issues can be decided by the voters with the technology we have. Everyone gets to log in and vote. No house or senate to screw it up.
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To bad the cheaters now own the country. Trump screwed up and waited to long to drain the swamp.
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6 states have near fool proof systems. Tennessee is one of them. You use a "machine" to punch a ticket, a paper ballot is then printed out, which you check, and is deposited in a safe box. Everything is above board with plenty of people on both sides watching the process.

Every other state is capable of the same system.

The only way to correct the election is to have a revote in the 6 contested states, and for their systems to be dismantled and people prosecuted. The state of PA and Georgia have shown their true colors as traitors. I'm ashamed to tell people I grew up n that state, but maybe they can now understand why I never want to go back.

Every aspect of life in PA is DEMONIZED. It's all about cheating, lying, it's a virtual death cult the entire state.

I get the same vibe when I visit Atlanta.
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It's been said that there hasn't ever been a fair election here in the United States and many have facts to prove as much. The 'Blackboxvoting.org' website comes to mind.

I have always posited that the mettle of the men who created this nation, this republic - was an HONEST one, not the evil beasts we have running/ruining the nation now, where total dishonesty and evil dishonesty at that - is the norm.

We need a new form of election, new fair ways of counting any vote, if we are to be a nation anymore. Either that or have 50 SEPARATE NATIONS within our borders.
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When you are vaxxed voting wont be an issue.
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In Australia we have a census every 10 years. Last time we could do it online, simple right lol.. what a joke, they spent like 12 million or something on some beat up program but here's the kicker, they did it on purpose!!

Cut a long story short, it all fell apart and became jammed up, it was a nightmare but? It was done so they could say Naa, this doesn't work this is too vulnerable.

The whole reason was to stop us from moving away from the rigged voting system that they use.

There is no reason for Congress or Parliament in this day and age, we can all be involved in the decisions and running of our countries.

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1871 act of congress succeeded in completely destroying our election process, and it was being corrupted well before that.

1871 though..that's the year our democracy officially died and we became a plutocracy.
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Democracy is a false god. The only reason we push it around the world is because it's easy as hell to control a democratic country if you own the media. Way easier and cheaper to manipulate a dumb populace than to deal with maybe competent autocrats.
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It's been said that there hasn't ever been a fair election here in the United States and many have facts to prove as much. The 'Blackboxvoting.org' website comes to mind.

I have always posited that the mettle of the men who created this nation, this republic - was an HONEST one, not the evil beasts we have running/ruining the nation now, where total dishonesty and evil dishonesty at that - is the norm.

We need a new form of election, new fair ways of counting any vote, if we are to be a nation anymore. Either that or have 50 SEPARATE NATIONS within our borders.
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Constitutional Monarchy seems inevitable to me.
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It's fine. It just needs to be adhered to and executed honestly.

The problem is the degradation of honesty.
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Your title is spot on though. In the 1700's trans-oceanic travel and information warfare to mess with elections was impossible.
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It's fine. It just needs to be adhered to and executed honestly.

The problem is the degradation of honesty.
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I believe this is unrealistic. You will never have 100% honest people running elections.
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I think you could get pretty far with having a notary to identify every voter.

You could get a pre-identified ticket that lasts for a couple weeks before an election.
To spread out the process


At the booth you present your notarized ticket to vote and vote.

If you do not have a notarized ticket then notaries should be available on sight.

Give a small tax incentive to get pre-notarized to hlep spread the process over time.

Notaries require first hand knowledge of you or witness's that know you.



hmmmm how to protect notaries?

Maybe you can only get a voting Notary if you have served time in the U.S. Military as proof of commitment.


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I have always posited that the mettle of the men who created this nation, this republic - was an HONEST one, not the evil beasts we have running/ruining the nation now, where total dishonesty and evil dishonesty at that - is the norm.
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I admire the founders. But even they were a tight-knit group. Even from the start, not just anyone could be voted in. There was already a self-anointed ruling class.
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Our founding fathers would not allow computers, electronics, or the pick up and delivery of ballots by the US Postal Service.

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As the Federalist and Anti-fed are both wrong.

The only way.

Excellent education that provides excellent thought.

Mixed with well planned out majority rules all.

If I'm not to high maybe I can elaborate later.
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Great Post OP!!!
I take back anything bad that I’ve ever said about you.
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To bad the cheaters now own the country. Trump screwed up and waited to long to drain the swamp.
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Trust the plan LOL
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How about a Dictatorship with Trump as the Emperor?
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You have 4 ply paper. You vote in person and give them the last copy. You keep the original and you send of the other two to third party. You also have a login with the government website that shows your user account and what your vote was. And you have the original if something is fucky.

In order to get the form you basically have to apply for it like a passport and you have to reapply every 10 years. You also pay about 300 for the application process.
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No, elections are fine - digital and postal elections are wrong. Strange world where third world countries using ink stamped fingers have fairer elections than first world countries. Time to go back to basics.

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No way the Founding Fathers could have imagined the technology used in modern elections or the depravity of the modern DemoKKKrat party.

We must go back to the way elections were run in the late 1700s.
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It's been said that there hasn't ever been a fair election here in the United States and many have facts to prove as much. The 'Blackboxvoting.org' website comes to mind.

I have always posited that the mettle of the men who created this nation, this republic - was an HONEST one, not the evil beasts we have running/ruining the nation now, where total dishonesty and evil dishonesty at that - is the norm.

We need a new form of election, new fair ways of counting any vote, if we are to be a nation anymore. Either that or have 50 SEPARATE NATIONS within our borders.
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-In person
-Paper ballots only
-Voter/Government ID only
-Military service gets 1 person 2 votes
-Land ownership gets 1 person 2 votes
-On welfare? Your vote gets cut in half
-If your net worth is HIGHER because of DIVORCE? Your vote gets cut in half
-If you get caught breaking the law while voting - $5000 fine

That is for starters
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Easy, if you think its rigged, refuse to run. Problem solved.
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It's been said that there hasn't ever been a fair election here in the United States and many have facts to prove as much. The 'Blackboxvoting.org' website comes to mind.

I have always posited that the mettle of the men who created this nation, this republic - was an HONEST one, not the evil beasts we have running/ruining the nation now, where total dishonesty and evil dishonesty at that - is the norm.

We need a new form of election, new fair ways of counting any vote, if we are to be a nation anymore. Either that or have 50 SEPARATE NATIONS within our borders.
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We can assure complete honest elections.
They do it in shithole countries.
It's called INDELIBLE INK that won't wear off
for weeks.

Couple that with a national photo ID,
linked to your individual DNA.

Make cheating a capital crime punishable
by immediate execution, and
we're good to go.





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