So honest question to Christians who are not catholic or orthodox or Coptic. (Coptic believes different Eucharist ) . What did Jesus mean when?

Genuinely interested.

Our understanding of the text is that Jesus is using symbolic language to represent what he wants them to understand. He is the bread of life. Whoever comes to him will never be hungry. It is not a satisfying of our fleshly hunger, but our spiritual. If we believe in him and walk in obedience to him, we will be raised up by him at his coming.

Don’t forget, the last supper had not taken place at the time he spoke of these things, so it is unlikely that he was referring in any way to it, especially as that involved only the disciples.


35 Then Jesus declared, “I am(AI) the bread of life.(AJ) Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes(AK) in me will never be thirsty.(AL) 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me(AM) will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven(AN) not to do my will but to do the will(AO) of him who sent me.(AP) 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me,(AQ) but raise them up at the last day.(AR) 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son(AS) and believes in him shall have eternal life,(AT) and I will raise them up at the last day.”


Jesus explains to his disciples after this that they, and obviously the many others listening, haven’t understood what he meant, and that it was not intended that they should actually eat his flesh or drink his blood, as he is talking spiritually - confirming to them that ‘the flesh profitable nothing’.




60 On hearing it, many of his disciples(BQ) said, “This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?”(BR)

61 Aware that his disciples were grumbling about this, Jesus said to them, “Does this offend you?(BS) 62 Then what if you see the Son of Man(BT) ascend to where he was before!(BU) 63 The Spirit gives life;(BV) the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit[e] and life.


Hope that helps give an insight into what other Christians believe.

Great response honestly and you are right the last supper comes later but Jesus knows everything so it could of still been true

Anyways the scripture you posted thanks it gives reference I know I kinda paraphrased

I love your signature .

I have prayed many times that God sends his flame to remove the wicked above.
But he keeps saying patience patience mercy mercy

He says let the day of judgement happen on my time not yours

He asks us as peace makers to show mercy

God and his angels will remove the wicked.

Last Edited by Seekingtruthandhonor on 01/07/2021 03:20 PM

The word became flesh The word is spiritual food.

Nope. The wicked will remove the believers.

He says you must eat my body and drink my blood, then he institutes that very thing at the last supper. He was absolutely referring to the last supper, which he instructed the apostles to continue partaking in. To say that he wasn't is beyond a stretch, it's willful ignorance.

The Eucharist is spiritual food. Both God and flesh, like when the word became flesh.

Also, your interpretation that Jesus says he was not speaking literally is just wrong. When the crowd takes him literally, he does not correct them but doubles down.

Credit given for answering this question, which I have never known a Protestant to do on this forum.

However, Jesus was not speaking symbolically here; he had only hours to live, and no time for J***ish hyperbole or mincing of words. His message was so clear, definite and difficult to accept that many of his followers left Him because of it. Jesus did not chase after them saying, “Hey guys—you misunderstood..come back and let me explain!”. Jesus let them walk away because He knew they heard and understood His teaching, and He respected their free will to reject it.
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John 6
51. I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.”
52. The J***s quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?”
53. Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
54. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.
55. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
56. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.
57. Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.
58. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.”
59. These things he said while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum.
The Words of Eternal Life.
60. Then many of his disciples who were listening said, “This saying is hard; who can accept it?”
61. Since Jesus knew that his disciples were murmuring about this, he said to them, “Does this shock you?
62. What if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?
63. It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.
64. But there are some of you who do not believe.” Jesus knew from the beginning the ones who would not believe and the one who would betray him.
65. And he said, “For this reason I have told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by my Father.”
66. As a result of this, many [of] his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him.
67. Jesus then said to the Twelve, “Do you also want to leave?”
68. Simon Peter answered him, “Master, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life”.
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At the Last Supper (the First Mass) Jesus demonstrated how we were to eat His Body and drink His Blood, in a non-bloody manner through the transubstantiation of bread and wine, and commanded the apostles to do this (celebrate the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass) in remembrance of Him until He comes again.

All Christians (who were all Catholic, and then either Catholic or Orthodox after 1054) believed that the Holy Eucharist was the Real Presence of Christ until the Reformation. What is the Protestant explanation for this no longer being the case? And what makes them any different from the disciples who left Our Lord at the command to Eat His Body and drink His Blood? Protestantism seems like a variant of Christianity with a line-item veto power (deletion of Sacraments, cancelling of Purgatory, removal/editing of biblical texts) which is not authentic Christianity.

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They believe whatever they want because in protestantism, every man is his own pope. If they had a sound theology around the Eucharist, they'd all be Catholic.

The Lutherans call it "transsignification". The other branches don't even bother trying to explain the contradiction between their "religion" and John 6.

Jesus was refering to spiritually eating and drinking of him, just like circumcision of the heart rather than flesh. Christianity is about charity and loving thy neighbour, not rituals and ceremonies.

Very well said!

You do not have to take my word for it, but

Blood = LIFE
That bread = THE WORD

Hopefully in future, will help with context. The occult pervert it and eat flesh (dust of the earth; snakes) and drink blood like in the days of noah.

If you keep reading in John it is explained what he meant...
John 6:35Then Jesus declared, 'I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty. 36But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe....'" (John 6:35-36)

The bible explains itself when you read it with an open heart to the Holy Spirit.

It's about coming to and putting your trust on Yeshua and the finished work he did on the cross to cover your and my sin with his blood.

Jesus never said that. What verse are you referring to?

Jesus said to take communion “in remembrance of me.”

He also said “I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the father but through me.” It is not eating the bread and drinking wine that saves you. It is believing that Jesus paid the price for all sins including yours, on the cross.

It was added at the counsel of Nicaea. To call all other doctrines heretics.

It's the terms of the twisted soul trap matrix we live in... you must consume life to live...

Whether it is plant or animal it is all the same.

This is why spiritual tribes like the Indians give thanks for the spirits sacrific when killing and eating the flesh..

It's a dog eat dog prison.. they force you to kill to live

Jesus did not create this, he tried to teach you and warn you about it..

The bread is Misty Mountain height manna fed from his mouth to yours just as a mother bird feeds her baby chicKs.


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It was the explanation of who he was when they explained it to the others who were lived else were who he was. The bread is his body the bread of life, he laid it down for you, his blood is the life he who believes is cleansed of sins, as the sacrifice for everyone sins. He is the life and he is the resurrection he who comes to him shall have everlasting life. We have hindsight because we can read it and hear, the ones who had to be told and so they would understand to either to believe not, it what he came for first.

Of course, Jesus didn't die, his fleshly life did, not his eternal life, he got a new body and a huge reward in heaven, he went on the build a place for everyone. It is a symbolism of his flesh we are not cannibals and he didn't tell us to think the bread was real flesh as we ate it, nor are we to think to drink his blood literally, remember the blood is life, it is a symbol of why he came, his blood was taken so we may live it is a way for users to remember and tell others. You share the bread and explain the cleansing of the blood and giving of his life for us. Only later did they understand. After he rose from the dead. They sprinkled the blood of animals in at the altar for the sacrifice and to cover sin. This is what had to be total he is their sacrifice the last one. If they believe they live, whom so ever believes will have everlasting life. Just believe he walked on this earth and loved us enough to give his earthly life so we may live with him forever.

He also proved you don't die, so you also may believe, where you go is another thing.

If you love me keep my commandments. JESUS

You notice when the apostles or Paul were winning people over to the faith, the empahsis was always on believing Jesus was the Christ and being baptized in his name, repenting sins, and living righteous as per the commandments, nobody was pushing people to eat a physical piece of bread to become Christian, thats idoltary

It is a symbol of a reality.
It is a picture in order to help us understand spiritual things ...


When you consume the bread and wine, where is it?
It is 'in you'. Christ in you.

This is the picture that Jesus wanted to show His disciples ... He would be 'in them'.

They would not be left alone to their own devices.

They would be given a Helper, a Comforter; the Holy Spirit to dwell in them and renew their minds.

It is a symbol; Christ in you, your hope of glory.

I was raised by a Catholic and a Protestant, 1st Baptist to be specific. We take Communion once a month. In the 1st Baptist Church the Cup, and the Bread were symbols of Jesus' Blood and Body, in the Catholic Church the Cup and Bread were believed to be the actual Blood and Body of Christ.

Both Churches did this " in remembrance of Me"

To me they both mean the same thing. Instead of arguing semantics, Christians and all people of faith should celebrate our similar beliefs, and stop letting our differences divide us and sew hated. There would be a lot less evil and war!

John 6:48-51

King James Version

48 I am that bread of life.

49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.