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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74472842 United States 01/20/2021 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74472842 YOU ARE NOT IN HEAVEN ALL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ACCEPT PERFECTION SO YOUR REALITY IS FUMBLE AND BUMBLE AROUND ALL BECAUSE THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF REALITY THERE IS NO REALITY IN HEAVEN REALITY ALWAYS LEADS TO DEATH because i see imperfection I can't also see perfection? I do accept perfect things and I have seen them We all are dying now, we all are peeling away by dying you don't exclude heaven or move away from it IMPERFECTION DIES PERFECTION LIVES FOREVER HAVE YOU SEEN ANYONE LIVE FOREVER??? YOU ARE BORN INTO IMPERFECTION BY ADAM AND EVE ACCEPTING THE APPLE NO ONE HAS TO DIE EVER IT IS ONLY BECAUSE PEOPLE ACCEPT IT GLORIFY IN IT INSTEAD OF GLORIFYING IN THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN THAT ALWAYS GIVES ETERNAL LIFE FOREVER Yes I do agree with that, but imperfection is also invaluable, its the mirror, a mirror also included in perfection IMPERFECTION IS WORTHLESS PROOF WHEN HAS IMPERFECTION CREATED LIFE OR GIVEN ETERNAL LIFE IT CAN'T BECAUSE IT IS IMPERFECT ONLY PERFECTION CAN GIVE LIFE MAINTAIN LIFE FOREVER BY THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ACCEPT THAT FACT |
Gleichmutig Om mani padme hum User ID: 79942240 Austria 01/20/2021 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Gleichmutig because i see imperfection I can't also see perfection? I do accept perfect things and I have seen them We all are dying now, we all are peeling away by dying you don't exclude heaven or move away from it IMPERFECTION DIES PERFECTION LIVES FOREVER HAVE YOU SEEN ANYONE LIVE FOREVER??? YOU ARE BORN INTO IMPERFECTION BY ADAM AND EVE ACCEPTING THE APPLE NO ONE HAS TO DIE EVER IT IS ONLY BECAUSE PEOPLE ACCEPT IT GLORIFY IN IT INSTEAD OF GLORIFYING IN THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN THAT ALWAYS GIVES ETERNAL LIFE FOREVER Yes I do agree with that, but imperfection is also invaluable, its the mirror, a mirror also included in perfection IMPERFECTION IS WORTHLESS PROOF WHEN HAS IMPERFECTION CREATED LIFE OR GIVEN ETERNAL LIFE IT CAN'T BECAUSE IT IS IMPERFECT ONLY PERFECTION CAN GIVE LIFE MAINTAIN LIFE FOREVER BY THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ACCEPT THAT FACT I do not believe so, nothing is utterly imperfect and worthless and thats where our paths part I wish you all the best .Truth made names in the world, and without them we can’t refer to truth. Truth is one and is many, teaching one thing through the many... .It won't be seen or understood as something particular. Rather, the kingdom is spread out upon the earth, yet people do not see it.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74472842 United States 01/20/2021 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is actually quite simple. Science states that something cannot come from nothing, yet here we are...So if you trust science, you must honestly accept the logic of a creator and that we live/exist in a created reality... Quoting: BRIEF Good point, Brief. Brief and to the point. THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN EVERY THING THAT IS HAS BEEN CREATED SINCE THE BEGINNING ALL WE SEE NOW IS DISTORTIONS OF PERFECTION DONE BY SCIENCE THE FATHER IN HEAVEN IS NOT LOGICAL FOR LOGIC IS THE RESULT OF IMPERFECTION THERE IS NO LOGIC IN HEAVEN |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74472842 United States 01/20/2021 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74472842 IMPERFECTION DIES PERFECTION LIVES FOREVER HAVE YOU SEEN ANYONE LIVE FOREVER??? YOU ARE BORN INTO IMPERFECTION BY ADAM AND EVE ACCEPTING THE APPLE NO ONE HAS TO DIE EVER IT IS ONLY BECAUSE PEOPLE ACCEPT IT GLORIFY IN IT INSTEAD OF GLORIFYING IN THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN THAT ALWAYS GIVES ETERNAL LIFE FOREVER Yes I do agree with that, but imperfection is also invaluable, its the mirror, a mirror also included in perfection IMPERFECTION IS WORTHLESS PROOF WHEN HAS IMPERFECTION CREATED LIFE OR GIVEN ETERNAL LIFE IT CAN'T BECAUSE IT IS IMPERFECT ONLY PERFECTION CAN GIVE LIFE MAINTAIN LIFE FOREVER BY THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ACCEPT THAT FACT I do not believe so, nothing is utterly imperfect and worthless and thats where our paths part I wish you all the best SHOW ONE THING THAT IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT??? EVERYTHING ELSE IS IMPERFECT AND SUBJECT TO ERROR OUR PATHS PART ONLY BECAUSE YOU WANT THEM TO THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE ACCEPTED WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO FUMBLE AND BUMBLE IN A IMPERFECT REALITY??? |
Gleichmutig Om mani padme hum User ID: 79942240 Austria 01/20/2021 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is actually quite simple. Science states that something cannot come from nothing, yet here we are...So if you trust science, you must honestly accept the logic of a creator and that we live/exist in a created reality... Quoting: BRIEF Good point, Brief. Brief and to the point. THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN EVERY THING THAT IS HAS BEEN CREATED SINCE THE BEGINNING ALL WE SEE NOW IS DISTORTIONS OF PERFECTION DONE BY SCIENCE THE FATHER IN HEAVEN IS NOT LOGICAL FOR LOGIC IS THE RESULT OF IMPERFECTION THERE IS NO LOGIC IN HEAVEN 'For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.' I don't wanna accept and embrace the imperfect, but I am very thorough and wanna take every single little corn of sand in my gears and look at them myself .Truth made names in the world, and without them we can’t refer to truth. Truth is one and is many, teaching one thing through the many... .It won't be seen or understood as something particular. Rather, the kingdom is spread out upon the earth, yet people do not see it.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74472842 United States 01/20/2021 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is actually quite simple. Science states that something cannot come from nothing, yet here we are...So if you trust science, you must honestly accept the logic of a creator and that we live/exist in a created reality... Quoting: BRIEF Good point, Brief. Brief and to the point. THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN EVERY THING THAT IS HAS BEEN CREATED SINCE THE BEGINNING ALL WE SEE NOW IS DISTORTIONS OF PERFECTION DONE BY SCIENCE THE FATHER IN HEAVEN IS NOT LOGICAL FOR LOGIC IS THE RESULT OF IMPERFECTION THERE IS NO LOGIC IN HEAVEN 'For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.' I don't wanna accept and embrace the imperfect, but I am very thorough and wanna take every single little corn of sand in my gears and look at them myself ACCORDING TO FREEWILL YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO AT ANY TIME THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE CHOOSE IMPERFECTION IS THAT THEY DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE EACH GRAIN OF SAND IS A GRAIN OF IMPERFECTION THAT IS GOING TO WEAR OUT THE GEARS WHY NOT CHOOSE PERFECTION AND IN PERFECTION THE GEARS NEVER WEAR OUT FROM IMPERFECT GRAINS OF SAND |
Gleichmutig Om mani padme hum User ID: 79942240 Austria 01/20/2021 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN EVERY THING THAT IS HAS BEEN CREATED SINCE THE BEGINNING ALL WE SEE NOW IS DISTORTIONS OF PERFECTION DONE BY SCIENCE THE FATHER IN HEAVEN IS NOT LOGICAL FOR LOGIC IS THE RESULT OF IMPERFECTION THERE IS NO LOGIC IN HEAVEN 'For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.' I don't wanna accept and embrace the imperfect, but I am very thorough and wanna take every single little corn of sand in my gears and look at them myself ACCORDING TO FREEWILL YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO AT ANY TIME THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE CHOOSE IMPERFECTION IS THAT THEY DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE EACH GRAIN OF SAND IS A GRAIN OF IMPERFECTION THAT IS GOING TO WEAR OUT THE GEARS WHY NOT CHOOSE PERFECTION AND IN PERFECTION THE GEARS NEVER WEAR OUT FROM IMPERFECT GRAINS OF SAND I dont know man, I am just sentimental I guess Safe travels .Truth made names in the world, and without them we can’t refer to truth. Truth is one and is many, teaching one thing through the many... .It won't be seen or understood as something particular. Rather, the kingdom is spread out upon the earth, yet people do not see it.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76731271 Canada 01/20/2021 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My inner knowing tells me it is real. It transcends beyond material "proof". Besides, how do you prove to a blind man fire is real. INNER KNOWING IS IMPERFECT THERE IS NO INNER KNOWING IN HEAVEN IN HEAVEN YOU EITHER ACCEPT PERFECTION OR REJECT PERFECTION THAT IS HEAVEN Inner knowing is your innate, a multi-dimensional guidance system with access to your collection of energies from all your "past lives" experiences and is connected to God/Higher Self/Creative Source/Prime Creator. What do you think is stored in the "junk" part of your DNA that scientists ignored because they can't detect what is there? It can't be detected because it is beyond our dimensionality, which is currently very low at what some call 3d or 4d. Why is it that one person loves swimming while another is scared to death going near water? The one who is afraid of nearing water is because in past life that person was drown or died horribly in water, and innate is warning that person to be careful. When the other poster said "My inner knowing tells me it is real", it is because of his/her innate or what some call the gut feeling. Our first reaction will always come from innate, then the ego mind quickly jumps in persuading us to do what don't feel right. Could innate be imperfect as you stated when innate is connected to God? We are living in only a tiny fraction of the vast grand reality where our current consciousness and spiritual awareness are very low on purpose. The higher our consciousness, the more of the vast grand reality we could perceive. Humans made up a divine place of perfection they call Heaven. A "place" doesn't exist in multi-dimensionality, but it is the best way we could describe the unknown and unseen to make it relatable and believable to us. Multi-dimensionality is a confluence of energies all intertwined and inter-connected. When you drop grains of salt into hot soup, would you be able to pick out the individual grains after they have dissolved? The salty taste is there, but it is impossible to single out the grains of salt. We are here willingly to participate in the ongoing test of dualistic energies. We all are on a path to higher wisdom and maturity, to uncovering and becoming our true divine nature that is unconditional love and joy. Being at different point along that path and moving along at our own comfortable pace, we all will develop our own truths. And the further along we go, the more aware we become and our current truths will be updated accordingly. God knows we are on an adventurous journey and patiently waits with "open arms" to receive each of us. God is an intelligent benevolent confluence of multi-dimensional energies of pure unconditional love and joy. Our true nature is unconditional love and joy, not the prevalent false nature projected by the ego mind designed for the test. Connect the dots only if you wish to do so. All the best! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75132091 United States 01/20/2021 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74472842 THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN EVERY THING THAT IS HAS BEEN CREATED SINCE THE BEGINNING ALL WE SEE NOW IS DISTORTIONS OF PERFECTION DONE BY SCIENCE THE FATHER IN HEAVEN IS NOT LOGICAL FOR LOGIC IS THE RESULT OF IMPERFECTION THERE IS NO LOGIC IN HEAVEN 'For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.' I don't wanna accept and embrace the imperfect, but I am very thorough and wanna take every single little corn of sand in my gears and look at them myself ACCORDING TO FREEWILL YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO AT ANY TIME THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE CHOOSE IMPERFECTION IS THAT THEY DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE EACH GRAIN OF SAND IS A GRAIN OF IMPERFECTION THAT IS GOING TO WEAR OUT THE GEARS WHY NOT CHOOSE PERFECTION AND IN PERFECTION THE GEARS NEVER WEAR OUT FROM IMPERFECT GRAINS OF SAND I dont know man, I am just sentimental I guess Safe travels OLD HABITS ARE HARD TO BREAK FAREWELL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75132091 United States 01/20/2021 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My inner knowing tells me it is real. It transcends beyond material "proof". Besides, how do you prove to a blind man fire is real. INNER KNOWING IS IMPERFECT THERE IS NO INNER KNOWING IN HEAVEN IN HEAVEN YOU EITHER ACCEPT PERFECTION OR REJECT PERFECTION THAT IS HEAVEN Inner knowing is your innate, a multi-dimensional guidance system with access to your collection of energies from all your "past lives" experiences and is connected to God/Higher Self/Creative Source/Prime Creator. What do you think is stored in the "junk" part of your DNA that scientists ignored because they can't detect what is there? It can't be detected because it is beyond our dimensionality, which is currently very low at what some call 3d or 4d. Why is it that one person loves swimming while another is scared to death going near water? The one who is afraid of nearing water is because in past life that person was drown or died horribly in water, and innate is warning that person to be careful. When the other poster said "My inner knowing tells me it is real", it is because of his/her innate or what some call the gut feeling. Our first reaction will always come from innate, then the ego mind quickly jumps in persuading us to do what don't feel right. Could innate be imperfect as you stated when innate is connected to God? We are living in only a tiny fraction of the vast grand reality where our current consciousness and spiritual awareness are very low on purpose. The higher our consciousness, the more of the vast grand reality we could perceive. Humans made up a divine place of perfection they call Heaven. A "place" doesn't exist in multi-dimensionality, but it is the best way we could describe the unknown and unseen to make it relatable and believable to us. Multi-dimensionality is a confluence of energies all intertwined and inter-connected. When you drop grains of salt into hot soup, would you be able to pick out the individual grains after they have dissolved? The salty taste is there, but it is impossible to single out the grains of salt. We are here willingly to participate in the ongoing test of dualistic energies. We all are on a path to higher wisdom and maturity, to uncovering and becoming our true divine nature that is unconditional love and joy. Being at different point along that path and moving along at our own comfortable pace, we all will develop our own truths. And the further along we go, the more aware we become and our current truths will be updated accordingly. God knows we are on an adventurous journey and patiently waits with "open arms" to receive each of us. God is an intelligent benevolent confluence of multi-dimensional energies of pure unconditional love and joy. Our true nature is unconditional love and joy, not the prevalent false nature projected by the ego mind designed for the test. Connect the dots only if you wish to do so. All the best! Inner knowing is your innate, a multi-dimensional guidance system with access to your collection of energies from all your "past lives" experiences and is connected to God/Higher Self/Creative Source/Prime Creator. INNER KNOWING IS BORN IN IMPEFECTION THERE IS NO MULTI DIMENSIONAL GUIDANCE SYSTEM IN HEAVEN BECAUSE IT IS NOT NEEDED WE LIVE BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS FROM THE MOUTH OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN THERE ARE NO ENERGIES IN HEAVEN ENERGY IS FORCE AND FORCE IS VIOLENCE AND VIOLENCE IS SATAN THERE IS ONLY ONE LIFE NO PAST LIVES IN HEAVEN YOU GET ONLY ONE SHOT TO GET IT RIGHT DON'T WASTE IT ON WHAT THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM SAYS IT SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75132091 United States 01/20/2021 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE JUNK PART OF DNA IS THE IMPERFECT IN A IMPERFECT STATE OF DISTORTION OF OUR SENSES IS WHAT SATAN DOES HE IS PRINCE AND POWER OF THE AIR AS LONG AS WE ACCEPT HIS AIR WE ACCEPT HIS DISTORTION OF THAT AIR WHAT SATAN CALLS DIMENSIONALY 3D 4D OR ANY OTHER D'S AS IN A INFINITE SYSTEM THERE ARE A INFINITE NUMBER OF DIMENSIONS JUST LIKE THERE ARE A INFINITE NUMBER OF TRUTH'S HOWEVER IN A FINITE SYSTEM IN HEAVEN WHAT WE SEE IS WHAT WE GET NO TRICKS THAT IS THE TRUTH ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75132091 United States 01/20/2021 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is it that one person loves swimming while another is scared to death going near water? The one who is afraid of nearing water is because in past life that person was drown or died horribly in water, and innate is warning that person to be careful. TO MUCH IS MADE OF PAST LIVES THAT'S ANOTHER LIE OF SATAN TO KEEP YOU THINKING ABOUT PAST LIVES INSTEAD OF THINKING ABOUT JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE AUTHOR OF LIFE EVERLASTING FEAR IS AND COMES FROM IMPERFECT FOR IN JESUS CHRIST WE DON'T FEAR FOR ANYTHING EVER |
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Gleichmutig Om mani padme hum User ID: 79942240 Austria 01/20/2021 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's go and get out of here We've done it The spell is lifted Close one guys! .Truth made names in the world, and without them we can’t refer to truth. Truth is one and is many, teaching one thing through the many... .It won't be seen or understood as something particular. Rather, the kingdom is spread out upon the earth, yet people do not see it.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75132091 United States 01/20/2021 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humans made up a divine place of perfection they call Heaven. A "place" doesn't exist in multi-dimensionality, but it is the best way we could describe the unknown and unseen to make it relatable and believable to us. HUMAN AS DEFINED BY BLACKS LAW DICTIONARY MONSTER THAT CAN'T OWN THE LAND IN THIS STATE THERE IS NO DIVINE PLACE OF PERFECTION THERE IS ONLY THE IMPERFECTION CALLED HUMANISM WHERE THE UNKNOWN AND UNSEEN IS AN EVERYDAY OCCURANCE |
Gleichmutig Om mani padme hum User ID: 79942240 Austria 01/20/2021 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Psalm 20 To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David. 1May the Lord answer you in the day of trouble; May the name of the God of Jacob [a]defend you; 2May He send you help from the sanctuary, And strengthen you out of Zion; 3May He remember all your offerings, And accept your burnt sacrifice. Selah 4May He grant you according to your heart’s desire, And fulfill all your purpose. 5We will rejoice in your salvation, And in the name of our God we will set up our banners! May the Lord fulfill all your petitions. 6Now I know that the Lord saves His [c]anointed; He will answer him from His holy heaven With the saving strength of His right hand. 7Some trust in chariots, and some in horses; But we will remember the name of the Lord our God. 8They have bowed down and fallen; But we have risen and stand upright. 9Save, Lord! May the King answer us when we call. Last Edited by Gleichmut on 01/20/2021 02:28 PM .Truth made names in the world, and without them we can’t refer to truth. Truth is one and is many, teaching one thing through the many... .It won't be seen or understood as something particular. Rather, the kingdom is spread out upon the earth, yet people do not see it.. |
MaybeTrollingUAgain User ID: 79954619 Brazil 01/20/2021 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But that would fit for any claimed god, isn't it? I mean, you can't prove that Odin, Thor, Zeus, Ahura Mazda, Vishnu... Also for anything else, like fairies, big foot, santa claus, easter bunny... Can't prove that any of them DON'T exist. Its totally illogical. The right time to believe something is AFTER you have evidence for it. Shouldn't default to "Well, I can't prove it doesn't exist, so I'll believe it", because then, by default you should believe everything else, until proven it DOESN'T exist. What you're thinking is an unfalsifiable position. Nothing can be proven to NOT exist. Its like me saying: There's a teapot orbiting earth right now. Can you prove me wrong? MaybeTrollingUAgain |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75132091 United States 01/20/2021 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But that would fit for any claimed god, isn't it? I mean, you can't prove that Odin, Thor, Zeus, Ahura Mazda, Vishnu... Also for anything else, like fairies, big foot, santa claus, easter bunny... Can't prove that any of them DON'T exist. Its totally illogical. The right time to believe something is AFTER you have evidence for it. Shouldn't default to "Well, I can't prove it doesn't exist, so I'll believe it", because then, by default you should believe everything else, until proven it DOESN'T exist. What you're thinking is an unfalsifiable position. Nothing can be proven to NOT exist. Its like me saying: There's a teapot orbiting earth right now. Can you prove me wrong? EVIDENCE CAN ONLY COME FROM PERFECTION ONLY PERFECTION HAS ALL THE FACTS TO PROVE EVIDENCE THAT'S WHY OUR REALITY IS SO UNBELIEVABLE THERE IS NO DEFAULT BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH FACTS TO PROVE ANY OF IT TO BE TRUE WHICH IS WHY THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM BOUNCES OFF THE WALLS OF THE CAVE NO LIGHT |
MaybeTrollingUAgain User ID: 79954619 Brazil 01/20/2021 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pascal Wager. Why is it wrong? Well, which god is the right one to believe? In the end, all arguments for god boil down to: - Personal incredulity, either by choice or indoctrination. Things like "I don't believe that the universe came from nothing", "I don't believe in evolution", "I don't believe in science". Science leaves many points with question marks. "I don't know" is unbearable for fanatics, therefore they rather believe anything that gives any answer, no matter how feeble, including magic, which is the case for all religious and miraculous claims. - Lack of knowledge of logic. This one is easy to spot in most of the arguments. Unfalsifiable claims, are the most basic ones and most circle around this one. Although there are a few others that can be used to support it, but then again, both being illogical doesn't make a logical argument. The problem is fanatics don't get to talk and discuss about their beliefs, they get to argue. Questioning their fanaticism is too offensive and they just can't talk rationally, because questioning their faith is questioning themselves. MaybeTrollingUAgain |
MaybeTrollingUAgain User ID: 79954619 Brazil 01/20/2021 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But that would fit for any claimed god, isn't it? I mean, you can't prove that Odin, Thor, Zeus, Ahura Mazda, Vishnu... Also for anything else, like fairies, big foot, santa claus, easter bunny... Can't prove that any of them DON'T exist. Its totally illogical. The right time to believe something is AFTER you have evidence for it. Shouldn't default to "Well, I can't prove it doesn't exist, so I'll believe it", because then, by default you should believe everything else, until proven it DOESN'T exist. What you're thinking is an unfalsifiable position. Nothing can be proven to NOT exist. Its like me saying: There's a teapot orbiting earth right now. Can you prove me wrong? EVIDENCE CAN ONLY COME FROM PERFECTION ONLY PERFECTION HAS ALL THE FACTS TO PROVE EVIDENCE THAT'S WHY OUR REALITY IS SO UNBELIEVABLE THERE IS NO DEFAULT BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH FACTS TO PROVE ANY OF IT TO BE TRUE WHICH IS WHY THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM BOUNCES OFF THE WALLS OF THE CAVE NO LIGHT EVIDENCE CAN ONLY COME FROM PERFECTION This is a claim and require evidence. Care to present? ONLY PERFECTION HAS ALL THE FACTS TO PROVE EVIDENCE This is another claim, same case as above WHICH IS WHY THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM Again, claim without evidence Can't you guys see that your faith is only evidence that you believe something without a reason? Faith is only proof of faith, nothing more. MaybeTrollingUAgain |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75132091 United States 01/20/2021 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pascal Wager. Why is it wrong? Well, which god is the right one to believe? In the end, all arguments for god boil down to: - Personal incredulity, either by choice or indoctrination. Things like "I don't believe that the universe came from nothing", "I don't believe in evolution", "I don't believe in science". Science leaves many points with question marks. "I don't know" is unbearable for fanatics, therefore they rather believe anything that gives any answer, no matter how feeble, including magic, which is the case for all religious and miraculous claims. - Lack of knowledge of logic. This one is easy to spot in most of the arguments. Unfalsifiable claims, are the most basic ones and most circle around this one. Although there are a few others that can be used to support it, but then again, both being illogical doesn't make a logical argument. The problem is fanatics don't get to talk and discuss about their beliefs, they get to argue. Questioning their fanaticism is too offensive and they just can't talk rationally, because questioning their faith is questioning themselves. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE WHO IS PERFECT ALL OTHERS ARE IMPERFECT QUESTION ARGUE RATIONALLY TRY TO USE LOGIC IN THE END THEY ALL END UP IN THE SAME PLACE DEAD |
MaybeTrollingUAgain User ID: 79954619 Brazil 01/20/2021 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pascal Wager. Why is it wrong? Well, which god is the right one to believe? In the end, all arguments for god boil down to: - Personal incredulity, either by choice or indoctrination. Things like "I don't believe that the universe came from nothing", "I don't believe in evolution", "I don't believe in science". Science leaves many points with question marks. "I don't know" is unbearable for fanatics, therefore they rather believe anything that gives any answer, no matter how feeble, including magic, which is the case for all religious and miraculous claims. - Lack of knowledge of logic. This one is easy to spot in most of the arguments. Unfalsifiable claims, are the most basic ones and most circle around this one. Although there are a few others that can be used to support it, but then again, both being illogical doesn't make a logical argument. The problem is fanatics don't get to talk and discuss about their beliefs, they get to argue. Questioning their fanaticism is too offensive and they just can't talk rationally, because questioning their faith is questioning themselves. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE WHO IS PERFECT ALL OTHERS ARE IMPERFECT QUESTION ARGUE RATIONALLY TRY TO USE LOGIC IN THE END THEY ALL END UP IN THE SAME PLACE DEAD See? More and more claims. No substantiation whatsoever. MaybeTrollingUAgain |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75132091 United States 01/20/2021 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But that would fit for any claimed god, isn't it? I mean, you can't prove that Odin, Thor, Zeus, Ahura Mazda, Vishnu... Also for anything else, like fairies, big foot, santa claus, easter bunny... Can't prove that any of them DON'T exist. Its totally illogical. The right time to believe something is AFTER you have evidence for it. Shouldn't default to "Well, I can't prove it doesn't exist, so I'll believe it", because then, by default you should believe everything else, until proven it DOESN'T exist. What you're thinking is an unfalsifiable position. Nothing can be proven to NOT exist. Its like me saying: There's a teapot orbiting earth right now. Can you prove me wrong? EVIDENCE CAN ONLY COME FROM PERFECTION ONLY PERFECTION HAS ALL THE FACTS TO PROVE EVIDENCE THAT'S WHY OUR REALITY IS SO UNBELIEVABLE THERE IS NO DEFAULT BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH FACTS TO PROVE ANY OF IT TO BE TRUE WHICH IS WHY THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM BOUNCES OFF THE WALLS OF THE CAVE NO LIGHT EVIDENCE CAN ONLY COME FROM PERFECTION This is a claim and require evidence. Care to present? EVIDENCE REQUIRES FACTS ALL THE FACTS THAT ARE ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT NOT MADE UP FROM YOUR MIND ONLY PERFECTION HAS ALL THE FACTS TO PROVE EVIDENCE This is another claim, same case as above DOES IMPERFECTION HAVE ALL THE FACTS??? NO BECAUSE IT IS IMPERFECT WHICH IS WHY THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM Again, claim without evidence JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE IT DOESN'T MAKE YOUR VIEW POINT CORRECT Can't you guys see that your faith is only evidence that you believe something without a reason? Faith is only proof of faith, nothing more. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. THERE IS NO REASON IN HEAVEN ONLY IN THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE WORLD THEY WOULD SAY FAITH IS ONLY PROOF OF FAITH HOWEVER BY THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN BY HOPING BY FAITH IS THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75132091 United States 01/20/2021 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pascal Wager. Why is it wrong? Well, which god is the right one to believe? In the end, all arguments for god boil down to: - Personal incredulity, either by choice or indoctrination. Things like "I don't believe that the universe came from nothing", "I don't believe in evolution", "I don't believe in science". Science leaves many points with question marks. "I don't know" is unbearable for fanatics, therefore they rather believe anything that gives any answer, no matter how feeble, including magic, which is the case for all religious and miraculous claims. - Lack of knowledge of logic. This one is easy to spot in most of the arguments. Unfalsifiable claims, are the most basic ones and most circle around this one. Although there are a few others that can be used to support it, but then again, both being illogical doesn't make a logical argument. The problem is fanatics don't get to talk and discuss about their beliefs, they get to argue. Questioning their fanaticism is too offensive and they just can't talk rationally, because questioning their faith is questioning themselves. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE WHO IS PERFECT ALL OTHERS ARE IMPERFECT QUESTION ARGUE RATIONALLY TRY TO USE LOGIC IN THE END THEY ALL END UP IN THE SAME PLACE DEAD See? More and more claims. No substantiation whatsoever. THAT IS YOUR POINT OF VIEW WHAT PART DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THEN WE CAN PROCEED |
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MaybeTrollingUAgain User ID: 79954619 Brazil 01/20/2021 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain But that would fit for any claimed god, isn't it? I mean, you can't prove that Odin, Thor, Zeus, Ahura Mazda, Vishnu... Also for anything else, like fairies, big foot, santa claus, easter bunny... Can't prove that any of them DON'T exist. Its totally illogical. The right time to believe something is AFTER you have evidence for it. Shouldn't default to "Well, I can't prove it doesn't exist, so I'll believe it", because then, by default you should believe everything else, until proven it DOESN'T exist. What you're thinking is an unfalsifiable position. Nothing can be proven to NOT exist. Its like me saying: There's a teapot orbiting earth right now. Can you prove me wrong? EVIDENCE CAN ONLY COME FROM PERFECTION ONLY PERFECTION HAS ALL THE FACTS TO PROVE EVIDENCE THAT'S WHY OUR REALITY IS SO UNBELIEVABLE THERE IS NO DEFAULT BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH FACTS TO PROVE ANY OF IT TO BE TRUE WHICH IS WHY THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM BOUNCES OFF THE WALLS OF THE CAVE NO LIGHT EVIDENCE CAN ONLY COME FROM PERFECTION This is a claim and require evidence. Care to present? EVIDENCE REQUIRES FACTS ALL THE FACTS THAT ARE ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT NOT MADE UP FROM YOUR MIND ONLY PERFECTION HAS ALL THE FACTS TO PROVE EVIDENCE This is another claim, same case as above DOES IMPERFECTION HAVE ALL THE FACTS??? NO BECAUSE IT IS IMPERFECT WHICH IS WHY THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM Again, claim without evidence JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE IT DOESN'T MAKE YOUR VIEW POINT CORRECT Can't you guys see that your faith is only evidence that you believe something without a reason? Faith is only proof of faith, nothing more. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. THERE IS NO REASON IN HEAVEN ONLY IN THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE WORLD THEY WOULD SAY FAITH IS ONLY PROOF OF FAITH HOWEVER BY THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN BY HOPING BY FAITH IS THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN Faith is the excuse people give to believe irrational things. If there is no reason in heaven, by your own admission, heaven is unreasonable. Faith only prove that you believe something, not that whatever you believe is true. Injecting a god is only adding more faith, which again, is only proof that you believe in something and not that the object of your belief is real or true. MaybeTrollingUAgain |
MaybeTrollingUAgain User ID: 79954619 Brazil 01/20/2021 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain Pascal Wager. Why is it wrong? Well, which god is the right one to believe? In the end, all arguments for god boil down to: - Personal incredulity, either by choice or indoctrination. Things like "I don't believe that the universe came from nothing", "I don't believe in evolution", "I don't believe in science". Science leaves many points with question marks. "I don't know" is unbearable for fanatics, therefore they rather believe anything that gives any answer, no matter how feeble, including magic, which is the case for all religious and miraculous claims. - Lack of knowledge of logic. This one is easy to spot in most of the arguments. Unfalsifiable claims, are the most basic ones and most circle around this one. Although there are a few others that can be used to support it, but then again, both being illogical doesn't make a logical argument. The problem is fanatics don't get to talk and discuss about their beliefs, they get to argue. Questioning their fanaticism is too offensive and they just can't talk rationally, because questioning their faith is questioning themselves. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE WHO IS PERFECT ALL OTHERS ARE IMPERFECT QUESTION ARGUE RATIONALLY TRY TO USE LOGIC IN THE END THEY ALL END UP IN THE SAME PLACE DEAD See? More and more claims. No substantiation whatsoever. THAT IS YOUR POINT OF VIEW WHAT PART DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THEN WE CAN PROCEED Its not only a point of view, its a fact. You made many claims, but didn't show evidence of any. The one not understanding here, is you. I've been once just like you. Deluded, lost, indoctrinated to the point of even denying reality in detriment of a lie. I know how hard it is to get out of this web of self destruction. I know how tough it is to admit to be wrong to be free. This enslavement is the worse of all, its the enslavement of your own mind. You are the slave and the master, operating to destroy each other. MaybeTrollingUAgain |
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