C1-Q83
The alien nation will divide the
spoils. Saturn in dreadful aspect
in Mars. Dreadful and foreign to
the Tuscans and Latins. Greeks
who will wish to strike.

J: This quatrain describes the country we know as Turkey. It is the alien nation. He says Turkey is going to have a war with Greece shortly. He says Greece will ask for aid from Italy and the surrounding countries because Turkey will seem to be very dominating. They might even use nuclear weapons, not so much bombs, but those types of weapons. They will also use sophisticated technology from the Russians. The Russians will support Turkey during this uprising which will take place in the early 1990s. The "dreadful aspect" is either a Saturn square Mars or Mars square Saturn aspect. He says Mars square Saturn. I'm asking him where Saturn will be at that time. He says Saturn will be in its ruling position of Capricorn, and Mars willbe in Aries. He says this will help me find out when this will happen.
D: "The alien nation will divide the spoils." Does that mean Russia is involved, or is he referring to one of the parties at war?
J: It represents Turkey because Turkey will contain so many internal factions. It will start a war so people will concentrate on the war rather than the internal problems that are taking place within their country.
D: Yes, that always gets their mind off it.
J: Right. He says it will cause a war with Greece who will want to annihilate Turkey. But while Turkey will have the support of the Russians, Greece will not have the support of other countries. It will ask for help from Italy, the United States and other countries, but we will all stay neutral. It will only last for a couple of months. It will be a short war in which there'll be fire in the great city of Athens. I asked if they are going to burn the Parthenon and he said, "No, I don't see the Parthenon being burnt this time."

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The reason why Turkey is called 'alien nation' is because they are Arabs and invadars and aanother Bolsheviks trickery with the Vatican. and Arabs are also J**s for they are mankind.

C5-Q31
From the land of Attica, source of
all wisdom which at the present is
the rose of the world: the Pont[iff]
ruined, its great pre-eminence will
be subjected and wrecked beneath
the waves.

B: He says this quatrain refers to the final downfall of the Catholic Church. When it does collapse it will go all the way and there will be no trace of it left. It will be as if it had been swallowed up by the waves. He says that is because unfortunately the way the structure is set up it has been rotting from the inside out for quite some time. When it finally does fall there will not be any apparent strength left to help it stand.
D: What the reference to Attica? "From the land of Attica, source of all wisdom which at the present is the rose of the world."
B: He says the source of western civilization and knowledge originated from Greece, Turkey, the Near East, and that part of the world, even though the Catholic Church would deny it. This area was called the "rose" because it was the seat of learning and civilization. The Catholic Church likes to put itself forward as being the torch of western civilization.

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