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BREAKING: Biden orders Justice Dept. to end use of private prisons

 
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My dad was a good cop. Honest and kind. He only liked to see hardend criminals go to jail.

He woulid say that if you sent a good person to jail for something dumb it was like a univercity for criminals.

Someone good would enter and come out bad.

Also prisons suck because the criminals teach each other the tricks of the trade. They come out more proficient in their chosen "trades".
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no such thing as a good cop. if so there would be no bad ones...

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Re: BREAKING: Biden orders Justice Dept. to end use of private prisons
I don't like Biden at all, but ending the use of private prisons is a very good move.
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Cost is the "same"...

sorta ...

private prisons have the same recidivism rate, but tend to imprison people for a shorter length of time.

So cost per inmate will be less.

The prisoners themselves favor publicly funded prisons, probably because of the living conditions.
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i feel like when Trump signed one EO it was all over the news as abuse of power.
this guy seem to have a list of dozens he wants to sign as soon as he was allowed to do so.

just a general remark. personally i know nothing about private prisons but they do sound wrong lol
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So what? I turn my basement back to a pool room? Dang it!
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There's positives and negatives for the liberal side.

I agree with them we need to end the private prisons, and end the Rockefeller drug war.

Conservatives lost the young vote over drugs, because things like cannabis are good for us, just avoid SMOKING it like an idiot, that's not how you inject nutrients or medicine. Plus you burn away half the cannabinoids, a dry herb vaporizer, oils under the tongue, or skin topicals do such a better job without it being like a drug. We use THC topicals mostly for kids with autism for example, no "high." (or delta-8).

Even cocaine, it wasn't a huge deal in college, we all tried it.

It was all Rockefeller fear mongering to support private prisons and create a police state.

Ill-Gotten Gains, The Rockefeller War on Drugs
How the Rockefellers turned the United States and other countries into police states.
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And to push the synthetic pharma model.

The Rockefellers, The Flexner Report, The AMA, and their Effect on Alternative Nutritional (botanical) Medicine
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this could be a good thing, private prions fine states when quota's aren't met. why do you think you never tell anybody your release date?
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Good, he should decriminalize possession of small personal amounts of drugs too. Most drug users are mentally ill and not evil, locking them up only ruins their lives even more and potentially turns them into hardened criminals more likely to commit actual crime.
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If it took a constitutional amendment to outlaw alcohol, why doesn't it take one to outlaw other drugs?
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Because ‘the people’ bent over and took their loss of freedom.

Why is gun ownership so sacred to Americans, yet altering your own consciousness consentually for fun or spiritual purposes with plants, isn’t?
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Goddammit

I agree

Fek


I guess even a blind squirrel finds a peanut every now and again...



Get rid of the judges that fed them as well. This was an area of major graft and kickbacks. I should know- I live in Illinois where it’s a standard operating procedure.

Still not gonna let him meet my kid tho
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And yet prison stocks (GEO and CXW) are up ten percent today.
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And yet prison stocks (GEO and CXW) are up ten percent today.
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It's completely fucked up and horrible and all the other things

that there are prison stocks

that should not be a thing

it's responsible for a good chunk of what's wrong

I think libertarians would agree ... that's fucked up.

dead cat bounce

they need to die
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Goddammit

I agree

Fek


I guess even a blind squirrel finds a peanut every now and again...



Get rid of the judges that fed them as well. This was an area of major graft and kickbacks. I should know- I live in Illinois where it’s a standard operating procedure.

Still not gonna let him meet my kid tho
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Every thinking person would agree there should be no such thing as private prisons.

Good riddance.

At least something is set right.
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Re: BREAKING: Biden orders Justice Dept. to end use of private prisons
No private prisons so we can raise taxes and pay for them ourselves. Of course he want's to shut them down.

He couldn't care less about the morality of them.
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I am leaning towards this explanation as well.
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Because you are as thick as that poster was.

I'll refer you to my earlier response; who do you think pays for private prisons now, idiot..the inmates?

No, the Govt funds them via stipends..using your taxes, from which the providers slice a profit. Public prisons are non-profit, so 100% of your tax dollar gets spent on actual prison services, rather than to enrich shareholders.

How dumb can you be?
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clappa

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Re: BREAKING: Biden orders Justice Dept. to end use of private prisons
President Joe Biden on Tuesday ordered the Department of Justice to end its reliance on private prisons and acknowledge the central role government has played in implementing discriminatory housing policies.

In remarks before signing the orders, Biden said the U.S. government needs to change “its whole approach” on the issue of racial equity. He added that the nation is less prosperous and secure because of the scourge of systemic racism.

“We must change now,” the president said. “I know it’s going to take time, but I know we can do it. And I firmly believe the nation is ready to change. But government has to change as well.”

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I don't like biden and would never vote for him but I agree that the for profit prison complex needs to be stopped, so this is a good thing for everyone.
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Interesting. I tend to agree with Ol Pedo Joe on this one. Private Prisons are a cancer on society.

However, I imagine this is just a way to release more criminals back on the streets to work as BLM and ANTIFA most likely. Same shit the Bolsheviks did in Russia.
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It matters on principle.

If the state imprisons people, they have to be responsible.

Too easy to push it off to a random contractor.

People on this thread talk about thugs and such ... those private prisons don't care what color you are, either. When they round us all up for speaking their mind .. o=you are damn right I hope for a state run prion over a for-profit prison!!!

For-profit prisons. Think about that.

The geniuses who founded our country didn't even imagine it ... I think someone in the Bush admin did.

Obama should have killed this dead. It's one of the reasons, along with the rise of ISIS, why I couldn't support him.

There is nothing bad that can come of ending private prisons. We still need prisons. States still need to sort out their prisons. No one is profiting off the prisons n the meantime.

Good deal.

Yay. Finally, patriots, libertarians, people who would NEVER presume to PROFIT off the INCARCERATION of ... people ... whoever

last year thugs

this year patriots

there should

NEVER be a private prison that is a CRIME that is kidnapping
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Well I hope there is an actual solution here and not just “can’t go to prison if we stop charging with crimes!”

Like the bullshit in California, San Francisco I believe, where the city will just pay for broken car Windows rather than investigate car vandalism or charge people with crimes. Or doing something to stop people from vandalizing cars and breaking Windows in the first place.
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Do you realize how expensive it is to investigate a broken window? Then if the person is caught it costs alot of money to put them in jail, have a trial and maybe put them in prison. All for what, a $200 window? we all pay expensive insurance premium to fix those windows or fix them ourselves. Locking up people, many mentally ill too, is not a solution. The U.S. has been locking up people forever and we still have the same problems. Fuck the prisons and the legal system.
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Except people arent going to prison for breaking windows man....murderers, drug dealers, armed robbers, rapists, traffickers.....you cant just let them go.
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hesright
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Interesting. I tend to agree with Ol Pedo Joe on this one. Private Prisons are a cancer on society.

However, I imagine this is just a way to release more criminals back on the streets to work as BLM and ANTIFA most likely. Same shit the Bolsheviks did in Russia.
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Do. Not. Trust.

Please never, ever agree with ANY of these monsters.

They use deception to reel you in. When they have you, that's it.

There is an evil agenda behind EVERYTHING they say and do. Sometimes they just need to to take the longer path, to get to their final destination.
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Re: BREAKING: Biden orders Justice Dept. to end use of private prisons
President Joe Biden on Tuesday ordered the Department of Justice to end its reliance on private prisons and acknowledge the central role government has played in implementing discriminatory housing policies.

In remarks before signing the orders, Biden said the U.S. government needs to change “its whole approach” on the issue of racial equity. He added that the nation is less prosperous and secure because of the scourge of systemic racism.

“We must change now,” the president said. “I know it’s going to take time, but I know we can do it. And I firmly believe the nation is ready to change. But government has to change as well.”

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 Quoting: Anonymer Feigling


I don't like biden and would never vote for him but I agree that the for profit prison complex needs to be stopped, so this is a good thing for everyone.
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It was a horror inspired by 4 ft crazy arizona sherrif where it doesn't matter if you die or how you are treated. Before he had illegals to feast on, joe arpaio made whiteys meat in his human shi* holes. He only got famous when he got mexicans.
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President Joe Biden on Tuesday ordered the Department of Justice to end its reliance on private prisons and acknowledge the central role government has played in implementing discriminatory housing policies.

In remarks before signing the orders, Biden said the U.S. government needs to change “its whole approach” on the issue of racial equity. He added that the nation is less prosperous and secure because of the scourge of systemic racism.

“We must change now,” the president said. “I know it’s going to take time, but I know we can do it. And I firmly believe the nation is ready to change. But government has to change as well.”

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 Quoting: Anonymer Feigling


Seems like 2 unrelated subjects.

Like banning bicycles, and acknowledging that China has concentration camps for a million Uighurs.
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Devi’s advocate here: As someone who has been to jail multiple times in their youth, I do not say this lightly...
-Before private prisons ( which are actually public because you can buy shares of them on the stock market) the state and federal governments were complete 100% liable for the cost of running and operating prisons. Human rights advocate groups couldn’t even get inside to write articles. Being incarcerated in a government operated prison in the 1940s-1970s would have been pure fucking hell. They can do whatever they want and you can’t do shit about it.
But In a publicly traded “private” prison the general public has eyes all over the operation....sure it’s a shitty hell still but prisoners get access to computers healthcare dental and all sorts of certificate education programs...
No matter how much you bleeding hearts wish to have a utopia planet free of prisons that is not realistic. There are bad bad people in this world and if you want your family to feel safe you might want to lock up the 300lb raping killing machines....
It’s a necessary evil.
Now ask yourself this....would you rather be locked up in a government operated prison with no legal recourse?
Or would you rather be locked up in a publicly traded “private” prison?
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Good. When rich people get paid to lock up prisoners, don't be surprised is they start paying politicians to pass laws that will make you a prisoner.
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that has been happening since the 80's!

Private Prisons profit is big $$, i doubt his handlers approve of this one?? maybe it's double speak for something more sinister??
would rather have it & not need it then need it & not have it
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Devi’s advocate here: As someone who has been to jail multiple times in their youth, I do not say this lightly...
-Before private prisons ( which are actually public because you can buy shares of them on the stock market) the state and federal governments were complete 100% liable for the cost of running and operating prisons. Human rights advocate groups couldn’t even get inside to write articles. Being incarcerated in a government operated prison in the 1940s-1970s would have been pure fucking hell. They can do whatever they want and you can’t do shit about it.
But In a publicly traded “private” prison the general public has eyes all over the operation....sure it’s a shitty hell still but prisoners get access to computers healthcare dental and all sorts of certificate education programs...
No matter how much you bleeding hearts wish to have a utopia planet free of prisons that is not realistic. There are bad bad people in this world and if you want your family to feel safe you might want to lock up the 300lb raping killing machines....
It’s a necessary evil.
Now ask yourself this....would you rather be locked up in a government operated prison with no legal recourse?
Or would you rather be locked up in a publicly traded “private” prison?
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seeing as you said there are bad bad people in this world, which i agree with, id rather see them in a government operated prison i guess. But i guess then the problem is that not everyone in there is actually a bad bad person
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Interesting. I tend to agree with Ol Pedo Joe on this one. Private Prisons are a cancer on society.

However, I imagine this is just a way to release more criminals back on the streets to work as BLM and ANTIFA most likely. Same shit the Bolsheviks did in Russia.
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Agreed, prison shouldn't be a moneymaking racketeering opportunity
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I agree about private prisons, that is the reason the US has more people in jail than any other country. It's a very bad practice so he is doing something right there.

However the racial inequality is BS as more black people commit crimes so more end up in jail. You don't see Asian Americans filling the jails, because they don't commit much crime. He knows this, but his bosses are telling him to go with that storyline.

In fact there's probably a not so good reason they want him to do away with the private prison industry though maybe it's just about transferring the profits for themselves.
Peepaws
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And yet the "GEO Group, Inc." is up 12.69
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Interesting. I tend to agree with Ol Pedo Joe on this one. Private Prisons are a cancer on society.

However, I imagine this is just a way to release more criminals back on the streets to work as BLM and ANTIFA most likely. Same shit the Bolsheviks did in Russia.
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Sadly this only applies to federal prisons which are always on federal land hence none are private. It's a virtue signal of massive proportions.

Too many senators and judges own private prisons he will not be banning them.
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Did you mean private prison owns too many senators and judges...
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That's gonna piss off the Clinton's and a bunch of democrats. Unless they've already got contracts lined up to Build back Better state run prisons.
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Sorry, not going to happen. Ending privatized prisons will take a lot of money away from those invested, and we've all seen what happens when you take away from their potential earnings. cough, cough, JFK, that DC madam, Epstein, et. al.
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I just did dome quick research.
It "appears" this is a stealth way to close ICE detention centers which are privately run facilities .

Set up that way before Trump. But, they can spin it to look like they're dismantling trump legacy.
Ice Detention went way down under Trump.
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I agree about private prisons, that is the reason the US has more people in jail than any other country.
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The reason more people are in jail is not because there are private prisons. People can avoid going to prison by making smart decisions. The reason more people are in jail is because more people commit crimes as part of their thug lifestyle.





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