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The world's oldest trees are proof of the Biblical Deluge
The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
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Average life span of these trees may be 7 or 8,000 years. Also, take into account fires, disease, and topplings. Possible their older forebears have since died, and these specimens are nearing the end of their life; not that they live forever. There weren't older ones that have since died.
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Re: The world's oldest trees are proof of the Biblical Deluge
The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
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You're right, but wrong. It happened around 11,500 years ago and what spawned tales of Atlantis.

What happened around 3,600 years ago was something different, a global catastrophe but not a global flood.
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Re: The world's oldest trees are proof of the Biblical Deluge
Devils Tower was very obviously a gigantic tree cut down at some point long, long ago.
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Devils Tower was very obviously a gigantic tree cut down at some point long, long ago.
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Devils Tower was very obviously a gigantic tree cut down at some point long, long ago.
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I believe this also.
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The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
 Quoting: Et Sano


You're right, but wrong. It happened around 11,500 years ago and what spawned tales of Atlantis.

What happened around 3,600 years ago was something different, a global catastrophe but not a global flood.
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There is no evidence of a global flood, only plenty of regional flooding. There would be huge silt deposits in odd places all over the earth for one and many other geological evidence of flooding in places that haven't seen bodies of water in millions of years.

Many of the bibles stories are metaphors of older religious stories and historical accounts long since lost. I am willing to believe that some of the more vague and allegorical accounts such as Genesis were very symbolic of an earlier lost history perhaps destroyed in the end of the last ice age 12,000 years ago.
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True observations OP! Generally these trees are at higher altitudes also.
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The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
 Quoting: Et Sano


You're right, but wrong. It happened around 11,500 years ago and what spawned tales of Atlantis.

What happened around 3,600 years ago was something different, a global catastrophe but not a global flood.
 Quoting: Endoplasmic


There is no evidence of a global flood, only plenty of regional flooding. There would be huge silt deposits in odd places all over the earth for one and many other geological evidence of flooding in places that haven't seen bodies of water in millions of years.

Many of the bibles stories are metaphors of older religious stories and historical accounts long since lost. I am willing to believe that some of the more vague and allegorical accounts such as Genesis were very symbolic of an earlier lost history perhaps destroyed in the end of the last ice age 12,000 years ago.
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There are individuals who have uncovered the evidence it’s there to be found.

The ark of Ron Wyatt is found in Anatolia modern day turkey. Go now on Google and find out where fruit trees, veg plants, animals etc come from. I shockingly significant percentage come from this region. Anatolia/Black Sea/Iran/Mediterranean same locale. There’s much data supporting it.

Superimpose a 13,000ft water level rise on a global map and only a handful of locations remain. Which correlate to megalithic ruins, origins of plants and animals, cone head skulls. Peru is one such site. There were several ark locations.

Mount Ararat ark was also found at 13,000ft. What we perceive as the strata layers and evolution, is actually the order the creatures came to rest after the silts subsided. So dinosaurs are perceived to be millions of years old they aren’t! The fossilization process was caused by immense pressures and the quick process of forming due to the immense silt layers.
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Re: The world's oldest trees are proof of the Biblical Deluge
The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
 Quoting: Et Sano


You're right, but wrong. It happened around 11,500 years ago and what spawned tales of Atlantis.

What happened around 3,600 years ago was something different, a global catastrophe but not a global flood.
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The flood in question is 6000 years old and correlates to Ron wyatts ark
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The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
 Quoting: Et Sano


You're right, but wrong. It happened around 11,500 years ago and what spawned tales of Atlantis.

What happened around 3,600 years ago was something different, a global catastrophe but not a global flood.
 Quoting: Endoplasmic


There is no evidence of a global flood, only plenty of regional flooding. There would be huge silt deposits in odd places all over the earth for one and many other geological evidence of flooding in places that haven't seen bodies of water in millions of years.

Many of the bibles stories are metaphors of older religious stories and historical accounts long since lost. I am willing to believe that some of the more vague and allegorical accounts such as Genesis were very symbolic of an earlier lost history perhaps destroyed in the end of the last ice age 12,000 years ago.
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There are large silt deposits all over the world. The evidence of flooding fills literal volumes. Read a book called "Cataclysm: Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophe in 9500 BC". It is academic level evidence of the flood. You're just being lazy at this point with a belief like that.
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Devils Tower was very obviously a gigantic tree cut down at some point long, long ago.
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So you believe the theory it was created by a volcano?
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Devils Tower was very obviously a gigantic tree cut down at some point long, long ago.
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That's a big no.
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Re: The world's oldest trees are proof of the Biblical Deluge
The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
 Quoting: Et Sano


You're right, but wrong. It happened around 11,500 years ago and what spawned tales of Atlantis.

What happened around 3,600 years ago was something different, a global catastrophe but not a global flood.
 Quoting: Endoplasmic


There is no evidence of a global flood, only plenty of regional flooding. There would be huge silt deposits in odd places all over the earth for one and many other geological evidence of flooding in places that haven't seen bodies of water in millions of years.

Many of the bibles stories are metaphors of older religious stories and historical accounts long since lost. I am willing to believe that some of the more vague and allegorical accounts such as Genesis were very symbolic of an earlier lost history perhaps destroyed in the end of the last ice age 12,000 years ago.
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Yeah, then why do we find fossils everywhere?
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Re: The world's oldest trees are proof of the Biblical Deluge
The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
 Quoting: Et Sano


You're right, but wrong. It happened around 11,500 years ago and what spawned tales of Atlantis.

What happened around 3,600 years ago was something different, a global catastrophe but not a global flood.
 Quoting: Endoplasmic


There is no evidence of a global flood, only plenty of regional flooding. There would be huge silt deposits in odd places all over the earth for one and many other geological evidence of flooding in places that haven't seen bodies of water in millions of years.

Many of the bibles stories are metaphors of older religious stories and historical accounts long since lost. I am willing to believe that some of the more vague and allegorical accounts such as Genesis were very symbolic of an earlier lost history perhaps destroyed in the end of the last ice age 12,000 years ago.
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I'll have to respectfully disagree.

In fact, the sedimentary record demonstrates that there was a worldwide cataclysmic flood.

For starters, we find marine fossils on the tops of every mountain worldwide. Take Mt. Everest. When Sir Edmund Hillary reached the 26,000 ft level he stuck his pick into the ground to pull himself up and noticed sea shells. In fact, there are thousands of sea shells on Everest from 26,000 ft all the way to the summit. These shells were found petrified in the closed position (when a clam dies it opens) meaning that they all died while still alive in a cataclysmic event.

Secondly, 75% of the Earth's crust is sedimentary rock laid down by water in which we find sedimentary rock and graveyard fossils worldwide. In these worldwide fossil graveyards we find the bones of all kinds of animals compressed together layer upon layer demonstrating that there was indeed a worldwide cataclysmic flood. Animals that should not even be found together were found all together in these massive graveyard layers.

Then you have the evidence from coal beds and oil deposits. Some strip mines have coal seams up to 200 feet thick. It takes 3 meters of vegetation to make 1 foot of coal, so these 200ft seams would require 1800 feet of vegetation, quickly covered by mud, to form them. And that is just one seam! This implies a massive cataclysm.

I am also reminded of the many ancient utensils and artifacts that are found in coal seams worldwide. For example, the cast iron pot found in a coal seam in 1912 at the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, Oklahoma. Or the bell found inside a coal seam in 1944 by Newton Anderson in West Virginia. Or the metallic vase that was discovered in a solid sedimentary rock by miners in 1851 in Dorchester, Mass. The list goes on. According to our enlightened evolutionary scientists, these coal seams and layers are hundreds of thousands or millions of years old. Yet we continue to find civilized artifacts in these layers. That's because these layers are not very old but instead were created only several thousand years ago during the rapid, cataclysmic destruction of the Deluge which trapped the bones of ancient animals and the relics of ancient peoples in sedimentary layers.

Besides being found in massive quantities, fossils are often discovered in incredible states of preservation. Fossils have been found of marine reptiles giving birth, eggs with preserved embryos inside them, fish eating other fish, and even fossilized animal droppings. This mass preservation is difficult for materialists to explain because it is not the natural order. They often postulate local floods as a mechanism of fossilization, but it is fair to say that no flood, tsunami, or hurricane in recorded history has preserved the remains of organisms in the quantities and state of preservation seen in the fossil record. The Deluge is the culprit.
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Nice post.

Just read a great book "Carved in Stone". An oil geologist lays out the proofs of a global worldwide flood and catastrophic plate tectonics. Secular geology is full of impossible theories that don't fit the sediment layers evidence.
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Nice post.

Just read a great book "Carved in Stone". An oil geologist lays out the proofs of a global worldwide flood and catastrophic plate tectonics. Secular geology is full of impossible theories that don't fit the sediment layers evidence.
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it has also promoted the idea that oil comes from rotting vegetation and is limited.

I favor the abiotic oil theory. Oil does not come from biological matter, but from the earth itself.
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Nice post.

Just read a great book "Carved in Stone". An oil geologist lays out the proofs of a global worldwide flood and catastrophic plate tectonics. Secular geology is full of impossible theories that don't fit the sediment layers evidence.
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The face of the Earth still bears the marks of the Deluge: fossil and sedimentary record, and the great geological formations like the Grand Canyon, were formed not over millions of years but rather suddenly and violently during the rapidly receding waters of the Flood.

Most of the waters of the Flood came from below the earth, not above, a fact supported by recent scientific discoveries of massive underground oceans: [link to www.newscientist.com (secure)]

The ancients knew the exact location of this opening from which the waters of the Deluge issued forth. In the Book of Enoch, we are told that it lies in the midst of the Canary Islands. The capital of Atlantis, of which ancient Egypt was but once province, lies not very far from this doorway to the underground, watery abyss, to the East in Mauritania, at a location now known as the Richat Structure.

The closer a generation was to Adam, the more advanced they were in every respect: genetically, culturally, scientifically. The world was very advanced before the Deluge and nature itself was "richer"; this is why people then lived hundreds of years. Atlantis was the civilization that Adam and his immediate descendants had built. It was a worldwide empire, and was the civilization whose violence and degeneracy eventually brought God's Chastisement in the form of a worldwide Deluge. All that remains of that civilization are its megalithic foundations. The rest was literally wiped off the face of the earth and sucked down into a massive drain. If you look at satellite imagery of North Africa near the Richat Structure you can see the marks left by the rapidly receding waters on the face of the landmass as the land was defaced by the tremendous suction.

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Re: The world's oldest trees are proof of the Biblical Deluge
The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
 Quoting: Et Sano


You're right, but wrong. It happened around 11,500 years ago and what spawned tales of Atlantis.

What happened around 3,600 years ago was something different, a global catastrophe but not a global flood.
 Quoting: Endoplasmic


There is no evidence of a global flood, only plenty of regional flooding. There would be huge silt deposits in odd places all over the earth for one and many other geological evidence of flooding in places that haven't seen bodies of water in millions of years.

Many of the bibles stories are metaphors of older religious stories and historical accounts long since lost. I am willing to believe that some of the more vague and allegorical accounts such as Genesis were very symbolic of an earlier lost history perhaps destroyed in the end of the last ice age 12,000 years ago.
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I'll have to respectfully disagree.

In fact, the sedimentary record demonstrates that there was a worldwide cataclysmic flood.

For starters, we find marine fossils on the tops of every mountain worldwide. Take Mt. Everest. When Sir Edmund Hillary reached the 26,000 ft level he stuck his pick into the ground to pull himself up and noticed sea shells. In fact, there are thousands of sea shells on Everest from 26,000 ft all the way to the summit. These shells were found petrified in the closed position (when a clam dies it opens) meaning that they all died while still alive in a cataclysmic event.

Secondly, 75% of the Earth's crust is sedimentary rock laid down by water in which we find sedimentary rock and graveyard fossils worldwide. In these worldwide fossil graveyards we find the bones of all kinds of animals compressed together layer upon layer demonstrating that there was indeed a worldwide cataclysmic flood. Animals that should not even be found together were found all together in these massive graveyard layers.

Then you have the evidence from coal beds and oil deposits. Some strip mines have coal seams up to 200 feet thick. It takes 3 meters of vegetation to make 1 foot of coal, so these 200ft seams would require 1800 feet of vegetation, quickly covered by mud, to form them. And that is just one seam! This implies a massive cataclysm.

I am also reminded of the many ancient utensils and artifacts that are found in coal seams worldwide. For example, the cast iron pot found in a coal seam in 1912 at the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, Oklahoma. Or the bell found inside a coal seam in 1944 by Newton Anderson in West Virginia. Or the metallic vase that was discovered in a solid sedimentary rock by miners in 1851 in Dorchester, Mass. The list goes on. According to our enlightened evolutionary scientists, these coal seams and layers are hundreds of thousands or millions of years old. Yet we continue to find civilized artifacts in these layers. That's because these layers are not very old but instead were created only several thousand years ago during the rapid, cataclysmic destruction of the Deluge which trapped the bones of ancient animals and the relics of ancient peoples in sedimentary layers.

Besides being found in massive quantities, fossils are often discovered in incredible states of preservation. Fossils have been found of marine reptiles giving birth, eggs with preserved embryos inside them, fish eating other fish, and even fossilized animal droppings. This mass preservation is difficult for materialists to explain because it is not the natural order. They often postulate local floods as a mechanism of fossilization, but it is fair to say that no flood, tsunami, or hurricane in recorded history has preserved the remains of organisms in the quantities and state of preservation seen in the fossil record. The Deluge is the culprit.
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Great post OP, I really like it and tend to agree with you, but what about the dinosaurs? Their fossils came from another cataclysm?
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You're right, but wrong. It happened around 11,500 years ago and what spawned tales of Atlantis.

What happened around 3,600 years ago was something different, a global catastrophe but not a global flood.
 Quoting: Endoplasmic


There is no evidence of a global flood, only plenty of regional flooding. There would be huge silt deposits in odd places all over the earth for one and many other geological evidence of flooding in places that haven't seen bodies of water in millions of years.

Many of the bibles stories are metaphors of older religious stories and historical accounts long since lost. I am willing to believe that some of the more vague and allegorical accounts such as Genesis were very symbolic of an earlier lost history perhaps destroyed in the end of the last ice age 12,000 years ago.
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I'll have to respectfully disagree.

In fact, the sedimentary record demonstrates that there was a worldwide cataclysmic flood.

For starters, we find marine fossils on the tops of every mountain worldwide. Take Mt. Everest. When Sir Edmund Hillary reached the 26,000 ft level he stuck his pick into the ground to pull himself up and noticed sea shells. In fact, there are thousands of sea shells on Everest from 26,000 ft all the way to the summit. These shells were found petrified in the closed position (when a clam dies it opens) meaning that they all died while still alive in a cataclysmic event.

Secondly, 75% of the Earth's crust is sedimentary rock laid down by water in which we find sedimentary rock and graveyard fossils worldwide. In these worldwide fossil graveyards we find the bones of all kinds of animals compressed together layer upon layer demonstrating that there was indeed a worldwide cataclysmic flood. Animals that should not even be found together were found all together in these massive graveyard layers.

Then you have the evidence from coal beds and oil deposits. Some strip mines have coal seams up to 200 feet thick. It takes 3 meters of vegetation to make 1 foot of coal, so these 200ft seams would require 1800 feet of vegetation, quickly covered by mud, to form them. And that is just one seam! This implies a massive cataclysm.

I am also reminded of the many ancient utensils and artifacts that are found in coal seams worldwide. For example, the cast iron pot found in a coal seam in 1912 at the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, Oklahoma. Or the bell found inside a coal seam in 1944 by Newton Anderson in West Virginia. Or the metallic vase that was discovered in a solid sedimentary rock by miners in 1851 in Dorchester, Mass. The list goes on. According to our enlightened evolutionary scientists, these coal seams and layers are hundreds of thousands or millions of years old. Yet we continue to find civilized artifacts in these layers. That's because these layers are not very old but instead were created only several thousand years ago during the rapid, cataclysmic destruction of the Deluge which trapped the bones of ancient animals and the relics of ancient peoples in sedimentary layers.

Besides being found in massive quantities, fossils are often discovered in incredible states of preservation. Fossils have been found of marine reptiles giving birth, eggs with preserved embryos inside them, fish eating other fish, and even fossilized animal droppings. This mass preservation is difficult for materialists to explain because it is not the natural order. They often postulate local floods as a mechanism of fossilization, but it is fair to say that no flood, tsunami, or hurricane in recorded history has preserved the remains of organisms in the quantities and state of preservation seen in the fossil record. The Deluge is the culprit.
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Great post OP, I really like it and tend to agree with you, but what about the dinosaurs? Their fossils came from another cataclysm?
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Most of them died in the Deluge. Some survived however and the Bible (Book of Job) clearly describes "behemoth" as still alive post-Deluge.
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Re: The world's oldest trees are proof of the Biblical Deluge
The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
 Quoting: Et Sano


You're right, but wrong. It happened around 11,500 years ago and what spawned tales of Atlantis.

What happened around 3,600 years ago was something different, a global catastrophe but not a global flood.
 Quoting: Endoplasmic


There is no evidence of a global flood, only plenty of regional flooding. There would be huge silt deposits in odd places all over the earth for one and many other geological evidence of flooding in places that haven't seen bodies of water in millions of years.

Many of the bibles stories are metaphors of older religious stories and historical accounts long since lost. I am willing to believe that some of the more vague and allegorical accounts such as Genesis were very symbolic of an earlier lost history perhaps destroyed in the end of the last ice age 12,000 years ago.
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There are large silt deposits all over the world. The evidence of flooding fills literal volumes. Read a book called "Cataclysm: Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophe in 9500 BC". It is academic level evidence of the flood. You're just being lazy at this point with a belief like that.
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Re: The world's oldest trees are proof of the Biblical Deluge
Devils Tower was very obviously a gigantic tree cut down at some point long, long ago.
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The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
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Not true. There are multiple living organisms that are tree like in nature older than bristle cone pines.

Not that this actually matters because bishop usher's chronology (the thing you bible tards get your muh 6000 years bullshit from) is a flaming piece of dog shit.

Gobekli teppe's YOUNGEST STRUCTURES are a minimum of 10,000-12,000 years old which shoots the entire biblical 7000 year narrative in the face anyway.

Hint: the bible is there specifically to keep you from asking the REAL difficult questions about why the history we're taught in school doesn't match the actual archaeological evidence!
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The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
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You're right, but wrong. It happened around 11,500 years ago and what spawned tales of Atlantis.

What happened around 3,600 years ago was something different, a global catastrophe but not a global flood.
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There is no evidence of a global flood, only plenty of regional flooding. There would be huge silt deposits in odd places all over the earth for one and many other geological evidence of flooding in places that haven't seen bodies of water in millions of years.

Many of the bibles stories are metaphors of older religious stories and historical accounts long since lost. I am willing to believe that some of the more vague and allegorical accounts such as Genesis were very symbolic of an earlier lost history perhaps destroyed in the end of the last ice age 12,000 years ago.
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I'll have to respectfully disagree.

In fact, the sedimentary record demonstrates that there was a worldwide cataclysmic flood.

For starters, we find marine fossils on the tops of every mountain worldwide. Take Mt. Everest. When Sir Edmund Hillary reached the 26,000 ft level he stuck his pick into the ground to pull himself up and noticed sea shells. In fact, there are thousands of sea shells on Everest from 26,000 ft all the way to the summit. These shells were found petrified in the closed position (when a clam dies it opens) meaning that they all died while still alive in a cataclysmic event.

Secondly, 75% of the Earth's crust is sedimentary rock laid down by water in which we find sedimentary rock and graveyard fossils worldwide. In these worldwide fossil graveyards we find the bones of all kinds of animals compressed together layer upon layer demonstrating that there was indeed a worldwide cataclysmic flood. Animals that should not even be found together were found all together in these massive graveyard layers.

Then you have the evidence from coal beds and oil deposits. Some strip mines have coal seams up to 200 feet thick. It takes 3 meters of vegetation to make 1 foot of coal, so these 200ft seams would require 1800 feet of vegetation, quickly covered by mud, to form them. And that is just one seam! This implies a massive cataclysm.

I am also reminded of the many ancient utensils and artifacts that are found in coal seams worldwide. For example, the cast iron pot found in a coal seam in 1912 at the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, Oklahoma. Or the bell found inside a coal seam in 1944 by Newton Anderson in West Virginia. Or the metallic vase that was discovered in a solid sedimentary rock by miners in 1851 in Dorchester, Mass. The list goes on. According to our enlightened evolutionary scientists, these coal seams and layers are hundreds of thousands or millions of years old. Yet we continue to find civilized artifacts in these layers. That's because these layers are not very old but instead were created only several thousand years ago during the rapid, cataclysmic destruction of the Deluge which trapped the bones of ancient animals and the relics of ancient peoples in sedimentary layers.

Besides being found in massive quantities, fossils are often discovered in incredible states of preservation. Fossils have been found of marine reptiles giving birth, eggs with preserved embryos inside them, fish eating other fish, and even fossilized animal droppings. This mass preservation is difficult for materialists to explain because it is not the natural order. They often postulate local floods as a mechanism of fossilization, but it is fair to say that no flood, tsunami, or hurricane in recorded history has preserved the remains of organisms in the quantities and state of preservation seen in the fossil record. The Deluge is the culprit.
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Re: The world's oldest trees are proof of the Biblical Deluge
The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
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P.s. The giza plateau is "noah's ark", the ark story was plagiarized from the epic of gilgamesh, and it's extremely likely that the epic of gilgamesh plagiarized it from a much older work which plagiarized it from an EVEN OLDER WORK!

Also, on the giza plateau...

If they ever FULLY excavate it back down to the levels it was dug out to in the oldest known writings (and the people writing about it then knew that even more of it was buried beyond what they were seeing) it will forever prove exactly what a fucked up lie not only biblical history but also the history we teach in schools and universities actually is!
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The oldest trees we have in the world are Bristlecone Pines. They are dated 3,000-5,000 years old.

Or take Sequoias. In Sequoia National Park there is one named "President" that is 3200 years old.

Now these types of trees don't die of old age. They just keep growing.

So, why don't we have trees that are 7,000 years old. Or 10,000 years old. Or 20,000 years old? Why are they only as young as they are?

Answer: because of the Biblical Deluge, which was a worlwide cataclysm which occured exactly as the Bible said, sometime around the year 2241BC.
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The deluge was exactly 12,000 years ago and caused by our own sun.
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Re: The world's oldest trees are proof of the Biblical Deluge
About every 12,000 years we have a magnetic field reversal, large solar flares (micro nova?), ice age - the world resets.
There are many flood stories and plenty of evidence of global catastrophe happening about every 12,000 yrs.

And guess what -- were due for the next one, probably within the lifetime of most of you - the world will reset.

The powers-that-be have known this since 1958 and have been preparing for it to save their own asses. Where do you suppose the missing 9 trillion dollars has gone?

This is the great secret of the elite.





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