Patrick Byrne breaks down why Giuliani led legal team blew it for Trump (tech fraud too complicated for Rudy to grasp)

Noooo...so those 64 failed election fraud lawsuits are all Rudy's fault now?

Crazy Uncle Rudy is incompetent?

After reading this which took an hour it sounds to me like Rudy should be in adult diapers and Trump chose really stupid people to advise him. EXACTLY what AJ has stated over and over and over. That Trump is too trusting.

The story ends with this. So apparently I dont know wtf happens after this point. Is there a continuation? Is this where we are left with hopium?

End Quote.

"And that is why, a few days before Christmas, General Mike Flynn, Sidney Powell, and I decided it was time to take a chance. By hook or by crook we were going to Jedi-Mind-Trick our way into the White House, maneuver our way to the Oval Office, and grab the President’s attention ourselves. With no invitation."

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Fact.

This is bullshite. Courts refused to hear the evidence; the evidence was not argued incorrectly. And, Rudy would never have to explain it all anyway he would put an expert witness on the stand to bring it all out into evidence.

So this story is a fail...

He's a spy and said so himself.

He slept with a Russian agent and was no doubt compromised himself.

"Only the best people"

And just look at the new lawyers Trump hired today after his entire legal team quit over the weekend.

Thread: Trump just announced his new impeachment trial legal defense team

David Schoen is best known for meeting with Jeffrey Epstein in prison to represent him before Epstein died.

Bruce Castor is best known as a PA DA who refused to prosecute Bill Cosby.

You know things are going great when the only lawyers who still want to work with him are his old friend Jeff Epstein's lawyer and the pedo who refused to prosecute Bill Cosby.

I was always wondering how much Bruce Castor made off of that deal?

keep up the shpilkes moyshe.....we love it

No the courts did not refuse to hear evidence in all those 64 failed election fraud lawsuits that were presided over by 80+'judges, many of whom were Trump appointees. Hard to believe that this false and absurd excuse is still being used.

For example :

Federal judge Stephanos Bibas pulled no punches when he issued a scathing opinion last Saturday rejecting the Trump campaign’s latest attempt to overturn the outcome of the November 3 presidential election, after Trump's legal team failed to present any verifiable evidence of fraud.

“Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so,” Bibas wrote in a 21-page ruling dismissing a lawsuit that sought to stop the certification of Pennsylvania's voting results.

“Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”

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On June 19, 2017, Donald J Trump nominated Bibas to serve as a United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. On November 2, 2017, his nomination was confirmed by the United States Senate by a vote of 53–43.

The way to get these cases back in court is to claim that the attorneys of record were not competent to represent. That would be on appeal. As it appears that the cases were filed improperly and the opening briefs were not adequate, it is a strategy that might work.

As a former documentary filmmaker I can attest that one of the hardest things to do is make an abstract subject concrete and then make it easy to handle...it truly is an art form.

Recently, some trader made naked short trading very easy to understand. He said " a naked short is when a trader is trying to extract five quarts out of a gallon" ...that statement was absolutely brilliant IMHO.

Giuliani is not stupid, he was waiting for his team to make some proper bait...they failed

100%

Trump is guilty of thinking that others as as noble as he is.

Should have hit state voting regs being changed without legislature approval hard.

Lead with that, less inflammatory. Once the audience is eating this up you then follow on with some of the more devious shit that was done.

I like Rudy but he was not the one to lead something like this. I hate saying this but a tactful approach was needed, leave the sledge hammer stuff to Trump

The reason Byrne has credibility was because the first time I saw him in media, think it was A J< he said that the FBI used him to blackmail Hillary and she took 14 million from him. This was when he still was CEO of Overstock. That took real courage. His point was that the feds didn't move on her after that. I can't remember what year it was but imagine his frustration knowing that he was used in a set up and they did NOTHING with it. THen he wasn't supposed to talk about it?

I don't smell anything on him but total frustration with a completely corrupt system. He said from the get go he didn't support DJT> his disclosure was to demonstrate the corruption of the feds and their selective prosecution... He also said that BHO was the one who wanted her blackmailed so she would be under his thumb. That's big shit, there. Surprised no one mentioned it in this thread.

Anybody who put that much trust in 911 Rudy is an idiot!

Patrick calls Warren Buffett a patriot.

Jiuliani - just doing his job for his clan.

Back stabin fucker. Told you so.

his wife's clan....smash the "early life" section of wiki if you have a desire to know more

Patrick Byrnes is wrong in this case and Rudi Giuliani was correct.

There is no venue for anyone to try to discredit the election via a globalist conspiracy of massive size using computers to change votes.

Donald Trump had a short window (in bureaucratic time), and only one method to retain the presidency.

State Legislatures needed to come into session and to throw out the State election. That is the only recourse the US Constitution allows to discredit the election.

That is exactly what Giuliani did. He went to the States, showed them the evidence and told them to blow past their governors, call emergency session themselves and throw out the State electors before Jan 6th.

What did Giuliani get? He got 4 states republican contingents to write a letter to Mike Pence asking for more time to possibly consider throwing out the electors.

He got the Senate Judiciary Committee of Georgia to declare their election a fraud.

He got the Arizona Election board to agree to do a State wide Audit.

The blame for Trump's loss is due to State Republicans in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin.

If those men had done their duty and thrown out the electors, Trump would have won. Then Trump would be in a position to appoint an independent prosecutor to pursue the big picture computer fraud that Byrnes alleges.


But..the ship sailed

Jenna Ellis, she is a self centered airhead.

For me it was the moment he "survived" 911.

because (((someone))) told him a building whose jet never arrived to hit it was going to collapse

:rudy:

Thats just not true. Therr are three big election law firms in DC, they all have expertise with this technology. What lawyers don't have expertise in they find credible experts to advise them. Thats what GOOD lawyers do anyway. Most of their arguments in court were directly about election law anyway. Even if you want to make the argument that no good lawyers existed for the tech portion of it (and since its not alien tech or even advanced tech this isn't true) they still should have had seasoned lawyers in election law and specialized firms on the case anyway.

Either Trump was getting bad advice or he deserves some of the blame too for hiring these people in the first place.

What I really don't like is that he got a serious attorney for this second impeachment trial, someone with a real reputation inside the legal community. Was Kushner pushing him towards Giuliani? Was it just a bias because they are old friends? I don't know about that but what I do know is that the best and brightest were not on the case.

I went to Patrick's website, read his story, and he is very suspect.

He just loves Warren Buffet, which is the fount from which Byrne's family wealth flows.

Here is more reason to suspect his motives... check out this thread...
Thread: Warren Buffet owns the railroad that is now transporting XL pipeline oil. Warren Buffet donated 58 million to Biden campaign.

I'm so sorry! I didn't see your thread nor did I get one of those duplicate alerts when I posted this.

I'm thinking the Mediocrity is Pat Cipollone.

Beat me to it!