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Looking Around (OP) User ID: 79821353 United States 02/09/2021 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Countries will require taxes to be paid in the currancy they choose. Not likely they will dump the petrodollar and accept crypto. If anything you will have to accept a government/UN owned currancy. Soon cancel culture could kill crypto, just say Trump supporters are behind a certain crypto and it will tank. I have been on GLP long time. I'm old and young.. . |
BLACK GHOST User ID: 79250271 United States 02/09/2021 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crypto is a new asset class, unrelated to any other. It is NOT fiat. Fiat is just money that the powers that be force you to use. Crypto is not controlled by the government. It's supply is fixed, so no inflation. "We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." |
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Looking Around (OP) User ID: 79821353 United States 02/09/2021 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crypto is a new asset class, unrelated to any other. Quoting: BLACK GHOST It is NOT fiat. Fiat is just money that the powers that be force you to use. Crypto is not controlled by the government. It's supply is fixed, so no inflation. Can be outlawed to conduct commerce with and forced to the black market. India is leading the way to outlaw crypto trans. Plus a EMP could take out a bunch of crypto wallets. I have been on GLP long time. I'm old and young.. . |
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Red Hot Chilean Pepe User ID: 79780291 Chile 02/09/2021 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are correct, but even "gold backed" is ultimately Fiat, because the value of gold is also a perceived one, not a real one. Money does not really exist, the only thing that exists is the collective willingness and belief of most participants in the game to be submitted to put an imaginary value on paper / metal / numbers on a database / absurd numbers created by solving complex maths (a.k.a. crypto currencies). For anyone that has realized of this, the whole thing is laughable. All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
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Looking Around (OP) User ID: 79821353 United States 02/09/2021 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | exactly Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79383457 BITCOIN is transferred/exchanged for FIAT currency, so there's that whether you pump money into the market or take it out so BTC is basically FIAT money FFS none can think You can't pay taxes with bitcoin. Never will be able to. Federal Reserve is ten steps ahead of crypto plans. I have been on GLP long time. I'm old and young.. . |
mr dull socks User ID: 79649609 United States 02/09/2021 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are correct, but even "gold backed" is ultimately Fiat, because the value of gold is also a perceived one, not a real one. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe Money does not really exist, the only thing that exists is the collective willingness and belief of most participants in the game to be submitted to put an imaginary value on paper / metal / numbers on a database / absurd numbers created by solving complex maths (a.k.a. crypto currencies). For anyone that has realized of this, the whole thing is laughable. false...gold has utility usage in the real world. that is why it is valuable Last Edited by mr dull socks on 02/09/2021 11:17 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79383457 France 02/09/2021 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are correct, but even "gold backed" is ultimately Fiat, because the value of gold is also a perceived one, not a real one. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe Money does not really exist, the only thing that exists is the collective willingness and belief of most participants in the game to be submitted to put an imaginary value on paper / metal / numbers on a database / absurd numbers created by solving complex maths (a.k.a. crypto currencies). For anyone that has realized of this, the whole thing is laughable. exactly like all the currencies, money, assets everything is worth as much as people think it is, put trust in it and back it, it's all based on trust and nothing else |
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Looking Around (OP) User ID: 79821353 United States 02/09/2021 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are correct, but even "gold backed" is ultimately Fiat, because the value of gold is also a perceived one, not a real one. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe Money does not really exist, the only thing that exists is the collective willingness and belief of most participants in the game to be submitted to put an imaginary value on paper / metal / numbers on a database / absurd numbers created by solving complex maths (a.k.a. crypto currencies). For anyone that has realized of this, the whole thing is laughable. exactly like all the currencies, money, assets everything is worth as much as people think it is, put trust in it and back it, it's all based on trust and nothing else Sex is currancy also. Anything can be. Bartering is also another economy, but again can't pay taxes with it directly. Can't pay taxes you go to jail. I have been on GLP long time. I'm old and young.. . |
mr dull socks User ID: 79649609 United States 02/09/2021 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are correct, but even "gold backed" is ultimately Fiat, because the value of gold is also a perceived one, not a real one. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe Money does not really exist, the only thing that exists is the collective willingness and belief of most participants in the game to be submitted to put an imaginary value on paper / metal / numbers on a database / absurd numbers created by solving complex maths (a.k.a. crypto currencies). For anyone that has realized of this, the whole thing is laughable. exactly like all the currencies, money, assets everything is worth as much as people think it is, put trust in it and back it, it's all based on trust and nothing else false. read my post |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78349802 United States 02/09/2021 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crypto is a new asset class, unrelated to any other. Quoting: BLACK GHOST It is NOT fiat. Fiat is just money that the powers that be force you to use. Crypto is not controlled by the government. It's supply is fixed, so no inflation. Can be outlawed to conduct commerce with and forced to the black market. India is leading the way to outlaw crypto trans. Plus a EMP could take out a bunch of crypto wallets. I don't trust giving them my bank acct number. Who knows how they can mess with it. Guy in another thread said they kept telling him it was wrong when it's right when he tried to buy. I can see people losing their bitcoins that way too. |
phillk6751 User ID: 79168901 United States 02/09/2021 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) Computing power (Electricity & time) was spent searching for the hash, much like the time and energy spent mining gold/silver 2) There is a finite amount of it, and when it's all mined up, there will be no more. Although gold/silver won't be 100% mined in the foreseeable future. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79383457 France 02/09/2021 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are correct, but even "gold backed" is ultimately Fiat, because the value of gold is also a perceived one, not a real one. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe Money does not really exist, the only thing that exists is the collective willingness and belief of most participants in the game to be submitted to put an imaginary value on paper / metal / numbers on a database / absurd numbers created by solving complex maths (a.k.a. crypto currencies). For anyone that has realized of this, the whole thing is laughable. exactly like all the currencies, money, assets everything is worth as much as people think it is, put trust in it and back it, it's all based on trust and nothing else false. read my post The price of gold is generally inversely related to the value of the United States dollar because the metal is dollar-denominated.4 All else being equal, a stronger U.S. dollar tends to keep the price of gold lower and more controlled, while a weaker U.S. dollar is likely to drive the price of gold higher through increasing demand (because more gold can be purchased when the dollar is weaker). As a result, gold is often seen as a hedge against inflation. Inflation is when prices rise, and by the same token prices rise as the value of the dollar falls. As inflation ratchets up, so too does the price of gold. the price of gold is still determined in dollars as it has to be valued with, in something, so like BITCOIN, is backed/traded in FIAT money, it's basically the same thing, leaving aside the PMs purposes that you can do with it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78349802 United States 02/09/2021 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dollar is backed by it's people, the treasury, the Government, the military Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79383457 backed by exchange rates, Treasury notes and foreign exchange reserves as long as USA will be an independent country, the dollar is here to say whether you like it or not Worst case scenario is it will lose value even quicker and there will be a digital dollar based on the technology. But that's pretty bad. Bitcoin and all the other casino tokens will never be adopted by any nation as it's own currency like the idiot maxis think. |
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Red Hot Chilean Pepe User ID: 79780291 Chile 02/09/2021 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are correct, but even "gold backed" is ultimately Fiat, because the value of gold is also a perceived one, not a real one. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe Money does not really exist, the only thing that exists is the collective willingness and belief of most participants in the game to be submitted to put an imaginary value on paper / metal / numbers on a database / absurd numbers created by solving complex maths (a.k.a. crypto currencies). For anyone that has realized of this, the whole thing is laughable. exactly like all the currencies, money, assets everything is worth as much as people think it is, put trust in it and back it, it's all based on trust and nothing else false. read my post It's still a perceived value, based on a perceived scarcity. There are much scarcer metals. It's only a belief what makes people think its valuable. All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |