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We should use atheists immorality against themselves

 
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We should use atheists immorality against themselves
That way they can diminish in force.
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What is your game plan?
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I suppose we could just explain to them in little words that if morality is subjective it defeats its own purpose?
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I suppose we could just explain to them in little words that if morality is subjective it defeats its own purpose?
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Because Morales build and construct.
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Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
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Re: We should use atheists immorality against themselves
Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
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You're the one whose dumb thinking god is a hoax evil person.
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Love them and pray for them, that's how you change hearts.
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Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
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So you are saying, you have zero morality?
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Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
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You're the one whose dumb thinking god is a hoax evil person.
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Ok. Bet you can’t prove a God exists much less that he is the spitting representation of your religious beliefs. It is no different from Greek mythology. There will always be too many religions to count.

Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
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So you are saying, you have zero morality?
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lolsign can’t make this up. Just because you would have no morality without the guidance of a fairy tale it doesn’t mean others are incapable of. My morality is based on a non-aggression principle and minding my own business.
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Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
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You're the one whose dumb thinking god is a hoax evil person.
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Ok. Bet you can’t prove a God exists much less that he is the spitting representation of your religious beliefs. It is no different from Greek mythology. There will always be too many religions to count.

Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
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So you are saying, you have zero morality?
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lolsign can’t make this up. Just because you would have no morality without the guidance of a fairy tale it doesn’t mean others are incapable of. My morality is based on a non-aggression principle and minding my own business.
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So in your opinion, morality is subjective and anyone can just decide on a whim what is right and wrong, and thats ok?

With your logic you could one day decide that creating a hoax pandemic and genociding the planet is just another day at the office.
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Re: We should use atheists immorality against themselves
That way they can diminish in force.
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Pretty tough to convince someone that they are “immoral” when they have subjective morals.

Every single atheist I’ve ever talked to concedes that society dictates what is truly right or wrong(cause you know, god is a big hoax supposedly). Thus one society can determine rape is wrong, another can determine rape as right. Neither are immoral according to our atheist friends. The mental hurdles they must of taken to come to such a conclusion is something to behold honestly.
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Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
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You're the one whose dumb thinking god is a hoax evil person.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward RT


Ok. Bet you can’t prove a God exists much less that he is the spitting representation of your religious beliefs. It is no different from Greek mythology. There will always be too many religions to count.

Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
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So you are saying, you have zero morality?
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lolsign can’t make this up. Just because you would have no morality without the guidance of a fairy tale it doesn’t mean others are incapable of. My morality is based on a non-aggression principle and minding my own business.
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So in your opinion, morality is subjective and anyone can just decide on a whim what is right and wrong, and thats ok?

With your logic you could one day decide that creating a hoax pandemic and genociding the planet is just another day at the office.
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If that’s what you infer from the words NON-AGRESSION PRINCIPLE then I have to ask you again: are you missing a brain? Obviously corruption, rape, murder, theft, tyranny - all unjustifiable. Of course self-defense is a separate issue.

And no I am not a cultural relativist either. I don’t respect Islam with regards to their treatment of women, for instance. There are many atheists who embrace Christian principles over any other set of principles, but they are still taking the part that has to do with philosophy and not religious belief itself.
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You're the one whose dumb thinking god is a hoax evil person.
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Ok. Bet you can’t prove a God exists much less that he is the spitting representation of your religious beliefs. It is no different from Greek mythology. There will always be too many religions to count.

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So you are saying, you have zero morality?
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lolsign can’t make this up. Just because you would have no morality without the guidance of a fairy tale it doesn’t mean others are incapable of. My morality is based on a non-aggression principle and minding my own business.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78435558


So in your opinion, morality is subjective and anyone can just decide on a whim what is right and wrong, and thats ok?

With your logic you could one day decide that creating a hoax pandemic and genociding the planet is just another day at the office.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78443029


If that’s what you infer from the words NON-AGRESSION PRINCIPLE then I have to ask you again: are you missing a brain? Obviously corruption, rape, murder, theft, tyranny - all unjustifiable. Of course self-defense is a separate issue.

And no I am not a cultural relativist either. I don’t respect Islam with regards to their treatment of women, for instance. There are many atheists who embrace Christian principles over any other set of principles, but they are still taking the part that has to do with philosophy and not religious belief itself.
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You aren't understanding subjectivity.

You may think this "non-agression principle" is morally righteous because it sounds good to you, but others may think the "agression principle" is morally righteous and steal your lunch.

If you can choose right and wrong based on your own preferences so can anyone else.

If you believe morality is objective then it becomes a standard of right and wrong to be applied universally, and since no one person can create their morality without it being subjective it can only come from GOD.
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Re: We should use atheists immorality against themselves
Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
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You're the one whose dumb thinking god is a hoax evil person.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward RT


Ok. Bet you can’t prove a God exists much less that he is the spitting representation of your religious beliefs. It is no different from Greek mythology. There will always be too many religions to count.

Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78435558


So you are saying, you have zero morality?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78443029


lolsign can’t make this up. Just because you would have no morality without the guidance of a fairy tale it doesn’t mean others are incapable of. My morality is based on a non-aggression principle and minding my own business.
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So in your opinion, morality is subjective and anyone can just decide on a whim what is right and wrong, and thats ok?

With your logic you could one day decide that creating a hoax pandemic and genociding the planet is just another day at the office.
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How fucking ironic. The (((things))) behind the scamdemic ARE NOT ATHEIST.
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You're the one whose dumb thinking god is a hoax evil person.
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Ok. Bet you can’t prove a God exists much less that he is the spitting representation of your religious beliefs. It is no different from Greek mythology. There will always be too many religions to count.

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So you are saying, you have zero morality?
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lolsign can’t make this up. Just because you would have no morality without the guidance of a fairy tale it doesn’t mean others are incapable of. My morality is based on a non-aggression principle and minding my own business.
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So in your opinion, morality is subjective and anyone can just decide on a whim what is right and wrong, and thats ok?

With your logic you could one day decide that creating a hoax pandemic and genociding the planet is just another day at the office.
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How fucking ironic. The (((things))) behind the scamdemic ARE NOT ATHEIST.
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They don't get their morality from GOD either.
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Re: We should use atheists immorality against themselves
Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
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Do you have evidence how the universe was created?

What was before the big bang?

I've objected to your atheist claims.

Albert Einstein didn't have the balls to claim there is no God. If you're claiming to be smarter than ol Albert. Prove it. Show your credentials.

Otherwise this is just trolling.

pseudo science normal level I.Q. trolling.
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Ok. Bet you can’t prove a God exists much less that he is the spitting representation of your religious beliefs. It is no different from Greek mythology. There will always be too many religions to count.

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lolsign can’t make this up. Just because you would have no morality without the guidance of a fairy tale it doesn’t mean others are incapable of. My morality is based on a non-aggression principle and minding my own business.
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So in your opinion, morality is subjective and anyone can just decide on a whim what is right and wrong, and thats ok?

With your logic you could one day decide that creating a hoax pandemic and genociding the planet is just another day at the office.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78443029


If that’s what you infer from the words NON-AGRESSION PRINCIPLE then I have to ask you again: are you missing a brain? Obviously corruption, rape, murder, theft, tyranny - all unjustifiable. Of course self-defense is a separate issue.

And no I am not a cultural relativist either. I don’t respect Islam with regards to their treatment of women, for instance. There are many atheists who embrace Christian principles over any other set of principles, but they are still taking the part that has to do with philosophy and not religious belief itself.
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You aren't understanding subjectivity.

You may think this "non-agression principle" is morally righteous because it sounds good to you, but others may think the "agression principle" is morally righteous and steal your lunch.

If you can choose right and wrong based on your own preferences so can anyone else.

If you believe morality is objective then it becomes a standard of right and wrong to be applied universally, and since no one person can create their morality without it being subjective it can only come from GOD.
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Good luck establishing objective morality within the different sects of your religion and expanding it across culture. I don’t drink your Kool Aid, see how that works? Though that is the point you are trying to make, what you don’t understand is that you can’t get rid of the subjective. Ideology has replaced religion in civilized societies.

I don’t understand “heroes” and their utopian delusions. Come back to the real world - obviously some are born psycho and morality cannot be taught to them. It is a fact of life. If you think morality is only validated by the concept of an invisible omnipotent master that you cannot even prove to exist, that cheapens the essence of morality itself, not strengthens it. Unless, of course, you can prove the existence of God as you believe him to be. Otherwise, a delusional person can also claim to understand Gods will and impose their “objective morals” on others with the excuse that it comes from a higher power. Trust me bro.

One could only hope that the forces of society unite in shaming and punishing actions that are detrimental to the social contract. That is currently happening, though for the wrong cause as you can tell by the scamdemic. We will never make the world a fair place, so stop dreaming up fantastical entities and just do your part.
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Re: We should use atheists immorality against themselves
That way they can diminish in force.
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Why in declining belief of an unproven claim of the supernatural, are you immoral? Being an atheist is neither moral or immoral. I also don't believe in Santa, or the monkey God or Zeus or Venus. Lots of claims I don't believe. I don't say there are no gods, just never had solid evidence.I also don't believers of god(s) makes them moral or immoral. But they have followers who are both but that is absent their beliefs.
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So in your opinion, morality is subjective and anyone can just decide on a whim what is right and wrong, and thats ok?

With your logic you could one day decide that creating a hoax pandemic and genociding the planet is just another day at the office.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78443029


If that’s what you infer from the words NON-AGRESSION PRINCIPLE then I have to ask you again: are you missing a brain? Obviously corruption, rape, murder, theft, tyranny - all unjustifiable. Of course self-defense is a separate issue.

And no I am not a cultural relativist either. I don’t respect Islam with regards to their treatment of women, for instance. There are many atheists who embrace Christian principles over any other set of principles, but they are still taking the part that has to do with philosophy and not religious belief itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78435558


You aren't understanding subjectivity.

You may think this "non-agression principle" is morally righteous because it sounds good to you, but others may think the "agression principle" is morally righteous and steal your lunch.

If you can choose right and wrong based on your own preferences so can anyone else.

If you believe morality is objective then it becomes a standard of right and wrong to be applied universally, and since no one person can create their morality without it being subjective it can only come from GOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78443029



Good luck establishing objective morality within the different sects of your religion and expanding it across culture. I don’t drink your Kool Aid, see how that works? Though that is the point you are trying to make, what you don’t understand is that you can’t get rid of the subjective. Ideology has replaced religion in civilized societies.

I don’t understand “heroes” and their utopian delusions. Come back to the real world - obviously some are born psycho and morality cannot be taught to them. It is a fact of life. If you think morality is only validated by the concept of an invisible omnipotent master that you cannot even prove to exist, that cheapens the essence of morality itself, not strengthens it. Unless, of course, you can prove the existence of God as you believe him to be. Otherwise, a delusional person can also claim to understand Gods will and impose their “objective morals” on others with the excuse that it comes from a higher power. Trust me bro.

One could only hope that the forces of society unite in shaming and punishing actions that are detrimental to the social contract. That is currently happening, though for the wrong cause as you can tell by the scamdemic. We will never make the world a fair place, so stop dreaming up fantastical entities and just do your part.

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I don't have a religion.
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Re: We should use atheists immorality against themselves
Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
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Well not a hoax any more than of the gods of any culture. Gods were created to explain what they didn't understand. For example, how did we get here? The most correct answer is we don't know. God made me, aliens populated earth or material arrived on earth and started the chain reaction that created life. Three of the many guesses how it happened. God is just another unproven claim. However, gods do add in one element that weakens the claim. Its all supernatural and there is not a single documented supernatural event. Aliens could exist. Space travel is not supernatural. We do it. So aliens visiting earth has a much more solid possibility than a god. However, aliens are also a claim I pass on as its unproven.
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Are you dumb? Atheism has to do with rejecting a claim without evidence. God is a hoax
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Well not a hoax any more than of the gods of any culture. Gods were created to explain what they didn't understand. For example, how did we get here? The most correct answer is we don't know. God made me, aliens populated earth or material arrived on earth and started the chain reaction that created life. Three of the many guesses how it happened. God is just another unproven claim. However, gods do add in one element that weakens the claim. Its all supernatural and there is not a single documented supernatural event. Aliens could exist. Space travel is not supernatural. We do it. So aliens visiting earth has a much more solid possibility than a god. However, aliens are also a claim I pass on as its unproven.
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Aliens cannot be GOD. Aliens would had to have also been created at some point.
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I can state confidently that my morality is much better than Bible-god’s morality.

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