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"Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina

 
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"Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I bet you didn't know this about Bitcoin. I just heard it in the TV news myself....

Bitcoin is "mined" (sells better with this terminology I guess) online by software, which uses computer resources and of course electrical power.

But apparently it uses a LOT of power, even more than than the total yearly power needed by nations such as Belgium, The Netherlands or even Argentina...

More than 121 TWh (TeraWatt/h)....

ONE single Bitcoin transaction uses the same power as (I think it was) 120,000 Visa card transactions......

You just learned about the hidden side of Bitcoin....
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02/16/2021 01:50 PM
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Yeah its a energy beast which makes me wonder how it will be seen in the green new eyes that the world seems to be heading down.
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02/16/2021 01:54 PM
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
It was costing more in energy than it was worth, and when that happens, they pump the price and then dump.
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
link or fud
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link or fud
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You can look for a link yourself, can't you?
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02/16/2021 02:00 PM
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
if to run bitcoin you needed 1 billion gallons of baby blood a day I assure "bitcoin investors" won't blink.

speculators are sociopatic at minimum.
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02/16/2021 02:01 PM
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I KNEW there was something wrong with cryptocurrency.

The idea alone... money that is not based on anything that has actual value... not gold, not anything valuable... but "mined" by software.

I don't care if you call it by the mythical word "blockchain" or whatever else.
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02/16/2021 02:03 PM
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"Mined" from where?

lol

They invented this vocabulary to get you to associate cryptocurrency with actual precious metals....
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02/16/2021 02:03 PM
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I do IT Work, and we have a few suppliers we go to for hardware to order for our clients..

The CHEAPEST decent biz class laptop/desktop we can find is 1400USD because people keep buying any good computers to mine bitcoin
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I do IT Work, and we have a few suppliers we go to for hardware to order for our clients..

The CHEAPEST decent biz class laptop/desktop we can find is 1400USD because people keep buying any good computers to mine bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54596823

I see you are carefully avoiding the issues I am touching upon.
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I do IT Work, and we have a few suppliers we go to for hardware to order for our clients..

The CHEAPEST decent biz class laptop/desktop we can find is 1400USD because people keep buying any good computers to mine bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54596823


You cannot mine Bitcoin with a laptop. You need a highly specialized miner to do that.
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I do IT Work, and we have a few suppliers we go to for hardware to order for our clients..

The CHEAPEST decent biz class laptop/desktop we can find is 1400USD because people keep buying any good computers to mine bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54596823


you cant mine BTC with a laptop .. sooo you dont know wtf you are talking about like the rest of the people in this thread.
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I do IT Work, and we have a few suppliers we go to for hardware to order for our clients..

The CHEAPEST decent biz class laptop/desktop we can find is 1400USD because people keep buying any good computers to mine bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54596823

I see you are carefully avoiding the issues I am touching upon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79899173


They are just pointing out another down side of crypto mining

Its also the reason we are having chip shortages.
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I do IT Work, and we have a few suppliers we go to for hardware to order for our clients..

The CHEAPEST decent biz class laptop/desktop we can find is 1400USD because people keep buying any good computers to mine bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54596823


you cant mine BTC with a laptop .. sooo you dont know wtf you are talking about like the rest of the people in this thread.
 Quoting: Violetag


Yes you can if it has a dedicated gpu.

You are the one who is clueless.
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02/16/2021 02:08 PM
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
An older article.
[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I do IT Work, and we have a few suppliers we go to for hardware to order for our clients..

The CHEAPEST decent biz class laptop/desktop we can find is 1400USD because people keep buying any good computers to mine bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54596823


you cant mine BTC with a laptop .. sooo you dont know wtf you are talking about like the rest of the people in this thread.
 Quoting: Violetag


I used to do it with a bank of old cellphones over WIFI.
Then the price of electricity was not worth it anymore.
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I do IT Work, and we have a few suppliers we go to for hardware to order for our clients..

The CHEAPEST decent biz class laptop/desktop we can find is 1400USD because people keep buying any good computers to mine bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54596823


You cannot mine Bitcoin with a laptop. You need a highly specialized miner to do that.
 Quoting: wessonoil


Not true, all it takes is a dedicated gpu.

Yea the cheaper laptops have integrated graphics and arent good enough, but there are plenty of laptops out there.
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02/16/2021 02:11 PM
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I do IT Work, and we have a few suppliers we go to for hardware to order for our clients..

The CHEAPEST decent biz class laptop/desktop we can find is 1400USD because people keep buying any good computers to mine bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54596823


you cant mine BTC with a laptop .. sooo you dont know wtf you are talking about like the rest of the people in this thread.
 Quoting: Violetag


Yes you can if it has a dedicated gpu.

You are the one who is clueless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72648819


BTC is way past GPU mining at this point.

Its asics or nothing
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02/16/2021 02:11 PM
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
Just as gold is a store of labor/energy required to procure it from the earth.

Bitcoin is a store of energy, allowing places that would otherwise have no customers to use said energy to tokenize and monetize their energy production.
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I do IT Work, and we have a few suppliers we go to for hardware to order for our clients..

The CHEAPEST decent biz class laptop/desktop we can find is 1400USD because people keep buying any good computers to mine bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54596823


you cant mine BTC with a laptop .. sooo you dont know wtf you are talking about like the rest of the people in this thread.
 Quoting: Violetag


I used to do it with a bank of old cellphones over WIFI.
Then the price of electricity was not worth it anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80056072




Like this.

Chinese Household in Trouble for Chasing a Lost Cause – Mining Bitcoin with Phones
[link to news.bitcoin.com (secure)]

Samsung Made a Bitcoin Mining Rig Out of 40 Old Galaxy S5s
[link to www.vice.com (secure)]



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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02/16/2021 02:13 PM
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
Just as gold is a store of labor/energy required to procure it from the earth.

Bitcoin is a store of energy, allowing places that would otherwise have no customers to use said energy to tokenize and monetize their energy production.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59775242




Gold has TONS of uses outside being a store for wealth.
Medical. Technological. Astronomy.
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with a £2500 gpu you could earn about £30 a day minus electric costs of 140wh mining daggerhashimoto.
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with a £2500 gpu you could earn about £30 a day minus electric costs of 140wh mining daggerhashimoto.
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thats not bitcoin.
Kryten
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I do IT Work, and we have a few suppliers we go to for hardware to order for our clients..

The CHEAPEST decent biz class laptop/desktop we can find is 1400USD because people keep buying any good computers to mine bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54596823


you cant mine BTC with a laptop .. sooo you dont know wtf you are talking about like the rest of the people in this thread.
 Quoting: Violetag


Yes you can if it has a dedicated gpu.

You are the one who is clueless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72648819


ok retard you go ahead and do the Math on that .. you Do not know wtf you are talking about you clueless bastard.
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I do IT Work, and we have a few suppliers we go to for hardware to order for our clients..

The CHEAPEST decent biz class laptop/desktop we can find is 1400USD because people keep buying any good computers to mine bitcoin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54596823


you cant mine BTC with a laptop .. sooo you dont know wtf you are talking about like the rest of the people in this thread.
 Quoting: Violetag


I used to do it with a bank of old cellphones over WIFI.
Then the price of electricity was not worth it anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80056072

There you have it.

It's like that famous "peak oil", remember?
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I bet you didn't know this about Bitcoin. I just heard it in the TV news myself....

Bitcoin is "mined" (sells better with this terminology I guess) online by software, which uses computer resources and of course electrical power.

But apparently it uses a LOT of power, even more than than the total yearly power needed by nations such as Belgium, The Netherlands or even Argentina...

More than 121 TWh (TeraWatt/h)....

ONE single Bitcoin transaction uses the same power as (I think it was) 120,000 Visa card transactions......

You just learned about the hidden side of Bitcoin....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79899173


but over 2/3 of that is done in China using cheap coal electricity. so its not as expensive as people assume!!!
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with a £2500 gpu you could earn about £30 a day minus electric costs of 140wh mining daggerhashimoto.
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thats not bitcoin.
 Quoting: Violetag

But it's cryptocurrency. Does it matter which one we are talking about? They are all based on the same technology.
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with a £2500 gpu you could earn about £30 a day minus electric costs of 140wh mining daggerhashimoto.
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thats not bitcoin.
 Quoting: Violetag


the pool pays out in bitcoins. so yes, you get bitcoins.
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
I bet you didn't know this about Bitcoin. I just heard it in the TV news myself....

Bitcoin is "mined" (sells better with this terminology I guess) online by software, which uses computer resources and of course electrical power.

But apparently it uses a LOT of power, even more than than the total yearly power needed by nations such as Belgium, The Netherlands or even Argentina...

More than 121 TWh (TeraWatt/h)....

ONE single Bitcoin transaction uses the same power as (I think it was) 120,000 Visa card transactions......

You just learned about the hidden side of Bitcoin....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79899173


but over 2/3 of that is done in China using cheap coal electricity. so its not as expensive as people assume!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14481951

That "cheap coal electricity" has no future. Don't we all know this by now?
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
the whole thing is stupid. why put all that effort into finding these magic random numbers? who is actually using the numbers that they find? what are they using them for?

if it was currency there would be no need for some crazy "mining" scheme. it would just be basic accounting to decide where the currency goes, and could be done very quickly with cheap computers.
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Re: "Production" of Bitcoin using more power than Belgium, Netherlands, or Argentina
with a £2500 gpu you could earn about £30 a day minus electric costs of 140wh mining daggerhashimoto.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72517218


thats not bitcoin.
 Quoting: Violetag

But it's cryptocurrency. Does it matter which one we are talking about? They are all based on the same technology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79899173


they are intrinsically tied together and inseparable. bitcoin is the index. some others such as USDT ect are also index coins.





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