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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79494731 United States 02/20/2021 03:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, with all of that in mind, I have put my papers in order for referencing this thread again Thread: The Voice of the Wordless Aeon As I mentioned, in these dynamic bifurcations to chaos, three period of periodicity occur before the value R approaches chaos. I have no proof that cycles of thousands of years of human history would pan out to be anything resembling droplets of water, neuron firing, spiral shells, or population change over time, however, it also wouldn't surprise me if macroscopic bifurcations to chaos were just as plentiful as ones on a scale closer to our ability to measure. According to Thelema, we are moving out of the Third Aeon, the aeon of Horus... [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] To clarify, we've had 3, and the new one has been the origin of the new age movement since its inception, basically, considering that's its actual etymology. I mean, either you see what I'm getting at or you don't I suppose |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79494731 United States 02/20/2021 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] This sounds so so familiar to me. an architecture of absence... haunted by probabilities.... The shadow of the mandelbrot set is fractal, psychedelic, spiral, the outline of an orbit that ended up in a finite mathmatical plane. [imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79494731 United States 02/20/2021 04:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've always intuitively believed this, but I believe it a little more now, that we are both the light and the seers of the light. or maybe rather, that everything is light, and we are the shadows that give the world bounded by the fibbonaci sequence a form. the concept of imagination, I believe now, could not even be possible if our brains could not process indeterminately. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3425388 United States 02/20/2021 04:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've always intuitively believed this, but I believe it a little more now, that we are both the light and the seers of the light. or maybe rather, that everything is light, and we are the shadows that give the world bounded by the fibbonaci sequence a form. the concept of imagination, I believe now, could not even be possible if our brains could not process indeterminately. nice. I thought of a carbon matrix projecting light, in the form of mind. physical and holographic. these two are probably the same, and it's our narrowly-defined perceptions that make it confusing. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79494731 United States 02/20/2021 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've always intuitively believed this, but I believe it a little more now, that we are both the light and the seers of the light. or maybe rather, that everything is light, and we are the shadows that give the world bounded by the fibbonaci sequence a form. the concept of imagination, I believe now, could not even be possible if our brains could not process indeterminately. nice. I thought of a carbon matrix projecting light, in the form of mind. physical and holographic. these two are probably the same, and it's our narrowly-defined perceptions that make it confusing. Yes, exactly... I was actually talking (to myself) about this earlier. I think I know why people hate chaos though. Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye This guy did a Ted Talk, he constructed music with absolutely no repetition whatsoever. That is, no patterns. If you skip into a bit, you can hear it. There is an easy intuitive affective impact, it's fucking creepy. It sounds wrong, maybe like pulled out of the scene of a movie where the protagonist wanders into a bizarre murder scene. It's implicitly off putting. I think that's because the organization of our awareness is creating a narrative patterns out of linear experience. That pattern is incredibly important, because it becomes the foundation for our self-construct and is the basis of continuity that allows us to learn, observe, and predict. But I will pose my own sort of challenge. The brain is a physical system that was hijacked from it's point of origin. It is a biological structure that is designed to portray a specific reality in a specific fashion. And while it's a miraculous device, it also inculcates very innate bias about metaphysical possibility. We are sort of averse to challenging linearity, causality, or patternicity, or even of contemplating infinity, because our brains aren't structurally orientated towards that level of abstraction. If you listen to that music, it's obvious why people like patterns and hate chaos; that is creepy music. But what specifically, specifically makes it creepy? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3425388 United States 02/20/2021 04:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it is possible for the individual to live apart from the motifs and clichés, but for the collective, there is a relentless push to follow in time with the 'mainstream', which, at least in somebody's theory, all fits neatly and efficiently into the prevailing box. otherwise life would be like that song. short and ugly, and brutish. the problem is, we end up with too much illusion, too much falsity. the band plays on, but the ship is going down. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79494731 United States 02/20/2021 04:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it is possible for the individual to live apart from the motifs and clichés, but for the collective, there is a relentless push to follow in time with the 'mainstream', which, at least in somebody's theory, all fits neatly and efficiently into the prevailing box. Quoting: bRokEnREkkERd otherwise life would be like that song. short and ugly, and brutish. the problem is, we end up with too much illusion, too much falsity. the band plays on, but the ship is going down. I guess the ship is always going down in one respect or another. But we do have the opportunity to decide what gets built in its place. We have that opportunity, for now. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79494731 United States 02/20/2021 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think people are grasping at something intuitively about these fractal objects, I think even looking at one there is a mysteriousness that makes you wonder. But I don't know if anybody really truly believes the eye of the universe, because, it would challenge both prevailing dogmas; science and doctrinal judeo-christianity. Even IF, properly understood, it would challenge neither actually, having two forces on both sides which avoid ever confronting these questions - academia which considers it folly, and doctrinal theology which finds it aberrant - probably have something to do with the information gap with respect to consciousness. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79494731 United States 02/20/2021 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is something related to the mandelbrot set called the mandelbox This is a fractal with a box like shape and shares several properties with the Mandelbrot Set. This evaluation type performs a recursive folding operation to create interesting geometric patterns. Use this evaluation type to create shapes that look less organic and more man made than that of the Mandelbrot set. Use the Box Radius, Box Min Radius, and Box Ratio attributes to control its evaluation. Quoting: [link to knowledge.autodesk.com (secure)] When I saw these a minute ago, it reminded me of something that happened once. One long odd night, I had these odd waking visions where I would close my eyes and see enormous, fractal labyrinths that were beyond my comprehension. Particularly, it was a day of a venus conjugation and I couldn't make sense of the things I was seeing let alone reproduce them. But now that I've seen these... [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] I'm quite positive these were the sorts of images that my mind was purveying, except I kept moving deeper into them, into infinite nooks and crannies that lead into labyrinths in any orientation. It looks like the ark to me. And, when I saw these, I had this implicit feeling that the nooks and crannies of this enfolded fractal cube might represent what the time dimension looked like if we were capable of seeing it. They say if you were capable of traversing the 4th dimension, time would be something you could step over, around, or move past completely. It would be traversable, although this is very hard to even sort of imagine. But, that's the implicit feeling I had when I was seeing these things. That, if there are entities out there which belong to higher dimensions, they don't need to move through space or time the way we do at all, and they don't. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80070821 United States 02/20/2021 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, here is an illustration of the periodicity of the mandelbrot set. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] |
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1412 User ID: 77394811 United States 02/20/2021 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is something related to the mandelbrot set called the mandelbox Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye This is a fractal with a box like shape and shares several properties with the Mandelbrot Set. This evaluation type performs a recursive folding operation to create interesting geometric patterns. Use this evaluation type to create shapes that look less organic and more man made than that of the Mandelbrot set. Use the Box Radius, Box Min Radius, and Box Ratio attributes to control its evaluation. Quoting: [link to knowledge.autodesk.com (secure)] When I saw these a minute ago, it reminded me of something that happened once. One long odd night, I had these odd waking visions where I would close my eyes and see enormous, fractal labyrinths that were beyond my comprehension. Particularly, it was a day of a venus conjugation and I couldn't make sense of the things I was seeing let alone reproduce them. But now that I've seen these... https://imgur.com/tWnZxyD https://imgur.com/SfDDqiw https://imgur.com/4YibRxc I'm quite positive these were the sorts of images that my mind was purveying, except I kept moving deeper into them, into infinite nooks and crannies that lead into labyrinths in any orientation. It looks like the ark to me. And, when I saw these, I had this implicit feeling that the nooks and crannies of this enfolded fractal cube might represent what the time dimension looked like if we were capable of seeing it. They say if you were capable of traversing the 4th dimension, time would be something you could step over, around, or move past completely. It would be traversable, although this is very hard to even sort of imagine. But, that's the implicit feeling I had when I was seeing these things. That, if there are entities out there which belong to higher dimensions, they don't need to move through space or time the way we do at all, and they don't. Very clear detail! I have seen this/been inside it you explain it much better though....couldn’t quite put it into words... |
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1412 User ID: 77394811 United States 02/20/2021 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first time I saw it represented visually was in the interstellar scene inside the tesseract... [link to manifoldwisdom.com (secure)] “A Tesseract is a projection of the four-spatial dimension reality in a three-dimension one. And in the film “Interstellar”, Cooper was portrayed to have fallen into a Tesseract that future species have built; a place where the manifestations of all of the physical reality and its time coordinate can be accessed while still being limited in a certain variant of reality. In this reality, the four-dimensional reality as we know it breaks down. Time is now horizontal. Spatial dimensions are limited to two spatial dimensions. As you go up and down in time, you’re looking at spatial particles in the two-dimensions. It is in this reality that Cooper peered through the particles of book covers and listened in to his own conversation with his daughter Murph. Because Cooper was in a different reality as compared to where he was when he was with his daughter, the Cooper that is in the Tesseract wasn’t able to communicate with himself nor his daughter in the physical spatial reality. No matter how hard he tried, his voice simply could not travel back into the physical spatial reality. As we manipulate realities in the higher dimensions, physical traits of everyday things will begin to change.“ [link to youtu.be (secure)] Very deja vu moment because when skynet used to talk about time traveling these are images that would present themselves and the feel of pulling on my back of my eyeballs forward sensations were enough to spook me out... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80070821 United States 02/20/2021 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wanted to put something out there about these videos I was just thinking about, because they are quite popular although I suspect the vast majority of viewers don't know any details. They are popular because they are trippy. Just looking at this, you will begin to feel as if you are in an altered state. I wanted to put that out there because I think that might be significant. The fractal, in general, is extremely fascinating visually and seems to be trance-inductive. And most people tag the term "fractal" in a very close network of relationship with "psychedelic". I think there is a reason they are connected in the memosphere with psychedelia. it is because the recursion, complexity, chaos, and infinite nature of a fractal are similar to the process of our own conscious experience. If consciousness has a subtle geometry, fractals represent a transfixing transfiguration of those geometries, and may play with the lens of perception, like a strange mirror. I also suspect they may have a more subtle influence on the domain of consciousness that scientists have yet to find a method of measuring. As I've been scouring my university's JSTOR libraries, the keyword consciousness was pretty unrewarding. It seems that academics are still asking the exact same questions about the measurement problem, and are desperately seeking different ways to operationalize facets of consciousness. Basically measure it indirectly. But the key to the physical, or at least empirical measurement of consciousness has been in broad daylight since the invention of LSD. LSD has a clear and indisputable relationship with basically no neurological structure other than consciousness. The missing bridge to understand how one infinitesimal microscopic particle causes a massive subjective and in some cases collective alteration in consciousness is an answer that could revolutionize reality entirely. |
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