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Sars Cov 2 … the grinder continues to eat away at resources and humanity.

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New thing here, people need to cover their eyes.

We've been saying it for how long?
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Hi Rasen how are you? I was scared you’d been run out of town!

I hope everyone is keeping well and fighting the good fight!
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hi

And right on the proper PPE!?!?
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Thanks for that Rasen, and good to see you.

I was thinking today that I sometimes get lax about eye protection, mainly due to the fogging up issue that happens with glasses or goggles. A face shield is better, to a degree, though I get fogging on those, too.

I do wear eye protection when I go indoors in a public place, which is literally only when I go to the doctor or the pharmacy. Outdoors, I just avoid proximity to others.

CC -- thanks for the article on long-term sequelae. That really is my biggest fear with this. The fatalities are awful, of course - but I really see this leaving behind a huge amount of chronically ill people, which will cause all kinds of problems in terms of the workforce, burden on the healthcare system, etc. Not to mention, living with a chronic illness is no walk in th park, to which several of us can personally attest.

There's also the economic impact. I can't imagine how businesses (except essential services) are managing to survive at all. If work can be done remotely, business can continue.. but what about all the business that needs to be done in person?
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Dec 27, 2020
Indian researchers have found 19 coronavirus variants circulating in India with "escape mutations" that allow them to evade the antibodies generated by immune systems and one such variant is spreading fast in Andhra Pradesh.
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The genetically tweaked variant with a mutation named N440K has been found in nearly 34% of the 272 SARS-CoV-2 genomes analysed from Andhra Pradesh.

[link to www.deccanherald.com (secure)]


Feb 28, 2021
Researchers, including those from Kurnool medical college, have said that the novel coronavirus variant, N440K, can cause reinfection. According to them, this variant can escape the immune system and can cause reinfection in patients already recovered from Covid-19, reports Syed Akbar.

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Just a weird outbreak.... that is traditionally a precursor for more spread...

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COVID-19: What it's like living in a village with 142% rise in coronavirus cases
Government officials warned about pockets where cases were rising on Friday.

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Dr Michael Head, a senior research fellow at the University of Southampton, says outbreaks like this one in West Sussex are going to be increasingly common as restrictions are eased.

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And my next question.... after MIS-C or A .... if they become infected again..... or just is it possible this has flare up potential like other longterm things like CFS, Lyme, Fibromyalgia, etc.?

Rare but severe illness striking some children with COVID-19

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We’re still looking at this, but for some reason, with these latest surges that we’re seeing in MIS-C, in December, January and February, here, the kids seem to be sicker, so we’re having actually a higher rate needing to be admitted to the intensive care unit,” Wiedermann said.

“We’re hoping that as the number of [COVID-19] cases are going down … we expect to see the MIS-C cases go down, but there’s a lag of a month or two before we start to see that happen.”

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This just does not happen here.....in Iowa.... unless folks need a doctor.... most are just going about their business. And the wave is definitely creeping in..... more reports of coughing, flushed faces, and confused looks....

Nestico’s closes temporarily after staffer tests positive for Covid-19

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Nestico’s in North Syracuse has closed temporarily after a worker tested positive for Covid-19, according to the restaurant.

[link to www.syracuse.com (secure)]
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Just researchers looking for ways to help the organ failure issues that the virus triggers.

Targeting RAGE to prevent SARS-CoV-2-mediated multiple organ failure: Hypotheses and perspectives

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Thanks for that Rasen, and good to see you.

I was thinking today that I sometimes get lax about eye protection, mainly due to the fogging up issue that happens with glasses or goggles. A face shield is better, to a degree, though I get fogging on those, too.

I do wear eye protection when I go indoors in a public place, which is literally only when I go to the doctor or the pharmacy. Outdoors, I just avoid proximity to others.

CC -- thanks for the article on long-term sequelae. That really is my biggest fear with this. The fatalities are awful, of course - but I really see this leaving behind a huge amount of chronically ill people, which will cause all kinds of problems in terms of the workforce, burden on the healthcare system, etc. Not to mention, living with a chronic illness is no walk in th park, to which several of us can personally attest.

There's also the economic impact. I can't imagine how businesses (except essential services) are managing to survive at all. If work can be done remotely, business can continue.. but what about all the business that needs to be done in person?
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bingo
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DM, shaving cream. I put a small dollop on the inside of my lenses and smear it around. Then buff them with a cleaning rag for glasses. The amount I use is about use is the size of small pet kibble. Works like a charm. No fogging
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Shaving cream..... I knew I forgot something.

Thanks.
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I feel really awful that a lot of folks can’t differentiate between what happens at initial infection and what is coming down the road.
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You have no idea what is coming down the road for those who have been infected, nobody does.

I work with someone who was infected last March, and then again this Christmas. He's about as long a case study as we have available here in the US.

We had a pull-up competition in my shop this week, he came in 2nd out of 15 guys right behind our new hire who is 20 years old and full of piss and vinegar.
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1 case. That’s awesome.

From 1,000s of cases studies on others theses are the top three...

* Loss of IQ (already happening)
* increase in diabetes (what happens at infection 3 or 4?)
* kidney damage (that may or may not resolve or come on later...and again...what happens as folks don’t realize they were infected multiple times?)

Again the models show that more people have been infected than tested.... this next wave might be brutal just for that reason.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


If there is one thing we have learned about this virus over the past year, it's the unpredictable nature of the beast and how it can go asymptomatic in some people and kill others in mere weeks. I also have a friend who is a long-hauler. Tested positive back in November. He's in excellent physical condition. He still has been unable to resume his workout routines at their previous intensities and he still occasionally gets a metallic smell/taste out of nowhere. Nobody else in his household was infected.

HUMINT reports are important, but they never show the entire picture. Let's not quibble over individual stories and stay focused on what may or may not be coming next. Right now I think our primary concerns should be efficacy of vaccines, emerging variants, and the potential of an even larger fourth wave.
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This just does not happen here.....in Iowa.... unless folks need a doctor.... most are just going about their business. And the wave is definitely creeping in..... more reports of coughing, flushed faces, and confused looks....

Nestico’s closes temporarily after staffer tests positive for Covid-19

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Nestico’s in North Syracuse has closed temporarily after a worker tested positive for Covid-19, according to the restaurant.

[link to www.syracuse.com (secure)]
 Quoting: CleverCreator


2 of the restaurants in my town are currently closed due to covid. I'm betting it's the same person that infected both places cause, you know, anti maskers everywhere.
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In just random case studies.... I don’t post them all.... their in the 1,000s.... and reading news articles.... there is an increase in diabetes.

There have also been a few cases that resolved, but doctors can’t pinpoint why. And not all were obese.

Based on the conversations.... there looks to be a big cohort compilation going on.... might get that study before summer.

Oklahoma seeing increase of diabetes in children, COVID-19 may be to blame
LOCAL

“We have been able to look back in reflection over the last five years of data and we’re seeing a pretty dramatic increase, upward approaching 20%, just in this one-year timeframe,” Tryggestad said.

[link to kfor.com (secure)]

(I just a bunch of internal medicine nightmares as the waves keep coming.... which that’s exactly how I found the nightmare data...)
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I think I'm one of these. If y'all remember, I had my annual physical exam in August or so of 2019. My sugar levels were on the high side of normal, but still within tolerances.

Fast forward to early 2020 and all of a sudden my sugar spikes to 440 and my doctor diagnoses me with Type II diabetes. Now, a year after medication and diet changes, my sugar is not only back to normal, but I've experienced more sugar crashes over the past six months than my entire life. Used to be I would have one, maybe two a year. Now it's more like one a week.

Thing of it is, to my knowledge, I never had Covid. So I'm stuck wondering if this was just coincidental timing or if I somehow picked up Covid very early in the pandemic and was just completely asymptomatic. I doubt if I'll ever know for sure.
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I feel really awful that a lot of folks can’t differentiate between what happens at initial infection and what is coming down the road.
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You have no idea what is coming down the road for those who have been infected, nobody does.

I work with someone who was infected last March, and then again this Christmas. He's about as long a case study as we have available here in the US.

We had a pull-up competition in my shop this week, he came in 2nd out of 15 guys right behind our new hire who is 20 years old and full of piss and vinegar.
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1 case. That’s awesome.

From 1,000s of cases studies on others theses are the top three...

* Loss of IQ (already happening)
* increase in diabetes (what happens at infection 3 or 4?)
* kidney damage (that may or may not resolve or come on later...and again...what happens as folks don’t realize they were infected multiple times?)

Again the models show that more people have been infected than tested.... this next wave might be brutal just for that reason.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


If there is one thing we have learned about this virus over the past year, it's the unpredictable nature of the beast and how it can go asymptomatic in some people and kill others in mere weeks. I also have a friend who is a long-hauler. Tested positive back in November. He's in excellent physical condition. He still has been unable to resume his workout routines at their previous intensities and he still occasionally gets a metallic smell/taste out of nowhere. Nobody else in his household was infected.

HUMINT reports are important, but they never show the entire picture. Let's not quibble over individual stories and stay focused on what may or may not be coming next. Right now I think our primary concerns should be efficacy of vaccines, emerging variants, and the potential of an even larger fourth wave.
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“Right now I think our primary concerns should be efficacy of vaccines, emerging variants, and the potential of an even larger fourth wave.”

All of which have the ability to totally screw with everyone that have previously been a host to China Asshole Virus.
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In just random case studies.... I don’t post them all.... their in the 1,000s.... and reading news articles.... there is an increase in diabetes.

There have also been a few cases that resolved, but doctors can’t pinpoint why. And not all were obese.

Based on the conversations.... there looks to be a big cohort compilation going on.... might get that study before summer.

Oklahoma seeing increase of diabetes in children, COVID-19 may be to blame
LOCAL

“We have been able to look back in reflection over the last five years of data and we’re seeing a pretty dramatic increase, upward approaching 20%, just in this one-year timeframe,” Tryggestad said.

[link to kfor.com (secure)]

(I just a bunch of internal medicine nightmares as the waves keep coming.... which that’s exactly how I found the nightmare data...)
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I think I'm one of these. If y'all remember, I had my annual physical exam in August or so of 2019. My sugar levels were on the high side of normal, but still within tolerances.

Fast forward to early 2020 and all of a sudden my sugar spikes to 440 and my doctor diagnoses me with Type II diabetes. Now, a year after medication and diet changes, my sugar is not only back to normal, but I've experienced more sugar crashes over the past six months than my entire life. Used to be I would have one, maybe two a year. Now it's more like one a week.

Thing of it is, to my knowledge, I never had Covid. So I'm stuck wondering if this was just coincidental timing or if I somehow picked up Covid very early in the pandemic and was just completely asymptomatic. I doubt if I'll ever know for sure.
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My concern is just that.... you are at least aware of your body....

How many waves can our already dumbed down society take before there are not enough resources to respond to accidents or bad decisions caused by things similar to low blood sugar or impaired PFC functions?
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You have no idea what is coming down the road for those who have been infected, nobody does.

I work with someone who was infected last March, and then again this Christmas. He's about as long a case study as we have available here in the US.

We had a pull-up competition in my shop this week, he came in 2nd out of 15 guys right behind our new hire who is 20 years old and full of piss and vinegar.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


1 case. That’s awesome.

From 1,000s of cases studies on others theses are the top three...

* Loss of IQ (already happening)
* increase in diabetes (what happens at infection 3 or 4?)
* kidney damage (that may or may not resolve or come on later...and again...what happens as folks don’t realize they were infected multiple times?)

Again the models show that more people have been infected than tested.... this next wave might be brutal just for that reason.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


If there is one thing we have learned about this virus over the past year, it's the unpredictable nature of the beast and how it can go asymptomatic in some people and kill others in mere weeks. I also have a friend who is a long-hauler. Tested positive back in November. He's in excellent physical condition. He still has been unable to resume his workout routines at their previous intensities and he still occasionally gets a metallic smell/taste out of nowhere. Nobody else in his household was infected.

HUMINT reports are important, but they never show the entire picture. Let's not quibble over individual stories and stay focused on what may or may not be coming next. Right now I think our primary concerns should be efficacy of vaccines, emerging variants, and the potential of an even larger fourth wave.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


“Right now I think our primary concerns should be efficacy of vaccines, emerging variants, and the potential of an even larger fourth wave.”

All of which have the ability to totally screw with everyone that have previously been a host to China Asshole Virus.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Yes. My only point was that we should stay focused on the entire forest and not the individual trees.
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In just random case studies.... I don’t post them all.... their in the 1,000s.... and reading news articles.... there is an increase in diabetes.

There have also been a few cases that resolved, but doctors can’t pinpoint why. And not all were obese.

Based on the conversations.... there looks to be a big cohort compilation going on.... might get that study before summer.

Oklahoma seeing increase of diabetes in children, COVID-19 may be to blame
LOCAL

“We have been able to look back in reflection over the last five years of data and we’re seeing a pretty dramatic increase, upward approaching 20%, just in this one-year timeframe,” Tryggestad said.

[link to kfor.com (secure)]

(I just a bunch of internal medicine nightmares as the waves keep coming.... which that’s exactly how I found the nightmare data...)
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I think I'm one of these. If y'all remember, I had my annual physical exam in August or so of 2019. My sugar levels were on the high side of normal, but still within tolerances.

Fast forward to early 2020 and all of a sudden my sugar spikes to 440 and my doctor diagnoses me with Type II diabetes. Now, a year after medication and diet changes, my sugar is not only back to normal, but I've experienced more sugar crashes over the past six months than my entire life. Used to be I would have one, maybe two a year. Now it's more like one a week.

Thing of it is, to my knowledge, I never had Covid. So I'm stuck wondering if this was just coincidental timing or if I somehow picked up Covid very early in the pandemic and was just completely asymptomatic. I doubt if I'll ever know for sure.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


There might be something weird going on with diabetes, Riff. I'm having similar things happen for the last year. I'm not down to normal yet, but I've been able to get it down into the middle to lower 200's. What I DO know is when my sugar is that high, there's something else going on too. Is it my heart? Idk. The last time I was uncontrolled was when my kidneys shut down. Related? Maybe.

There's a thread floating around the board about high blood sugars too. I'll see if I can find it.


ETA: Thread: I'm diabectic and i swear, i cannot get my sugar down to 100.

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New thing here, people need to cover their eyes.

We've been saying it for how long?
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this started to drip out late summer -early fall. went no where.now we are at the masks do not work.it is comedy thou how they CDC put that info drop out. want ppl to wear a box of masks is ludicrous.

again the governments<govern short-tyoed> have not informed the public the way they should have. they lied to them so nobody trusts anything the govern says. the govern's never took time to teach ppl. make up some signs or pictures to show u how to wash your hands.treating the ppl like they are 5yr olds is not going to get them to follow.

lots of $$ was spent,went into pockets as usual,but did nothing for the ppl. they control the media. would b very easy to take over the TV,radio,and even online sites.took an hour and had a townhall meeting to give the public true info facts and how to fight this virus.

but the govern's have dumbed down the ppl and think the ppl would panic.so they tell stories like the ppl are 5.

course that would have been done if they were trying to save the ppl. i made enuf posts on the in-competance of the great CDC. they are not really as dumnb as they seem.it is on purpose.
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I agree on the individual trees.... but putting the trees together.... that build out the longterm patterns.

The blood sugar thing is disturbing.
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This just does not happen here.....in Iowa.... unless folks need a doctor.... most are just going about their business. And the wave is definitely creeping in..... more reports of coughing, flushed faces, and confused looks....

Nestico’s closes temporarily after staffer tests positive for Covid-19

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Nestico’s in North Syracuse has closed temporarily after a worker tested positive for Covid-19, according to the restaurant.

[link to www.syracuse.com (secure)]
 Quoting: CleverCreator


2 of the restaurants in my town are currently closed due to covid. I'm betting it's the same person that infected both places cause, you know, anti maskers everywhere.
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I work at an upscale joint at night and weekends as extra income. All FOH ppl were told to isolate 5 weeks ago. Since then, I returned about 3 weeks ago. Two other employees just returned this past Wednesday. Of the 7 that were exposed, 4 are still out. All of them under 30. All exposed by one 22 year old woman with a proclivity for Tinder. The 4 out all tested positive. The main culprit and another girl that's 19 are still very ill.
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Thanks for that Rasen, and good to see you.

I was thinking today that I sometimes get lax about eye protection, mainly due to the fogging up issue that happens with glasses or goggles. A face shield is better, to a degree, though I get fogging on those, too.

I do wear eye protection when I go indoors in a public place, which is literally only when I go to the doctor or the pharmacy. Outdoors, I just avoid proximity to others.

CC -- thanks for the article on long-term sequelae. That really is my biggest fear with this. The fatalities are awful, of course - but I really see this leaving behind a huge amount of chronically ill people, which will cause all kinds of problems in terms of the workforce, burden on the healthcare system, etc. Not to mention, living with a chronic illness is no walk in th park, to which several of us can personally attest.

There's also the economic impact. I can't imagine how businesses (except essential services) are managing to survive at all. If work can be done remotely, business can continue.. but what about all the business that needs to be done in person?
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the fogging is a huge issue. here it is not so bad in winter luckily.see no way u can work a shift with these goggles.hence my idea to a helmet mask that propels the exhaust.

for now-try some shampoo. rub it on the lense both in and outside surfaces. this doesn't stop it but does help delay the fogging. the better the masks seals the less fogging as well. we have had less issues with it since going to half face masks.
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


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In just random case studies.... I don’t post them all.... their in the 1,000s.... and reading news articles.... there is an increase in diabetes.

There have also been a few cases that resolved, but doctors can’t pinpoint why. And not all were obese.

Based on the conversations.... there looks to be a big cohort compilation going on.... might get that study before summer.

Oklahoma seeing increase of diabetes in children, COVID-19 may be to blame
LOCAL

“We have been able to look back in reflection over the last five years of data and we’re seeing a pretty dramatic increase, upward approaching 20%, just in this one-year timeframe,” Tryggestad said.

[link to kfor.com (secure)]

(I just a bunch of internal medicine nightmares as the waves keep coming.... which that’s exactly how I found the nightmare data...)
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I think I'm one of these. If y'all remember, I had my annual physical exam in August or so of 2019. My sugar levels were on the high side of normal, but still within tolerances.

Fast forward to early 2020 and all of a sudden my sugar spikes to 440 and my doctor diagnoses me with Type II diabetes. Now, a year after medication and diet changes, my sugar is not only back to normal, but I've experienced more sugar crashes over the past six months than my entire life. Used to be I would have one, maybe two a year. Now it's more like one a week.

Thing of it is, to my knowledge, I never had Covid. So I'm stuck wondering if this was just coincidental timing or if I somehow picked up Covid very early in the pandemic and was just completely asymptomatic. I doubt if I'll ever know for sure.
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There might be something weird going on with diabetes, Riff. I'm having similar things happen for the last year. I'm not down to normal yet, but I've been able to get it down into the middle to lower 200's. What I DO know is when my sugar is that high, there's something else going on too. Is it my heart? Idk. The last time I was uncontrolled was when my kidneys shut down. Related? Maybe.

There's a thread floating around the board about high blood sugars too. I'll see if I can find it.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Well, for me at least, if my sugar gets that high, I become extremely lethargic, and I'm told that's due to my body working so hard to bring my sugar levels down. If my sugar crashes, I become very shaky and my balance is affected. Are your symptoms similar?

I use an app called "Blood Glucose Tracker" to record my sugar levels when I test them. Here's a perfect example of what's going on with me: On February 20th, my blood sugar tested at 160 at 08:00 before breakfast. Nothing I had eaten the day before should heave produced a result that high. On the exact same day, my sugar crashed to 75 at 15:30. Again, nothing I had eaten for breakfast or lunch should have caused that crash. So I have no idea WTF is going on, other than it's annoying AF.
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And to add to my last comment: as of yesterday, the occupancy capacities have been lifted for bars and restaurants now that indoor dining is allowed again. But the HD says it should be fine because people know to stay 6 feet apart...ftw...

Seeing how telling people to obey the two meters rule was fucking impossible to begin with, this will go down like a wet fart from a whore in church and a witch's titty on a flat rock on the North side of a mountain in winter (you get my point)...

I agree with Hnry's made up language here. We are infukked

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Thanks for that Rasen, and good to see you.

I was thinking today that I sometimes get lax about eye protection, mainly due to the fogging up issue that happens with glasses or goggles. A face shield is better, to a degree, though I get fogging on those, too.

I do wear eye protection when I go indoors in a public place, which is literally only when I go to the doctor or the pharmacy. Outdoors, I just avoid proximity to others.

CC -- thanks for the article on long-term sequelae. That really is my biggest fear with this. The fatalities are awful, of course - but I really see this leaving behind a huge amount of chronically ill people, which will cause all kinds of problems in terms of the workforce, burden on the healthcare system, etc. Not to mention, living with a chronic illness is no walk in th park, to which several of us can personally attest.

There's also the economic impact. I can't imagine how businesses (except essential services) are managing to survive at all. If work can be done remotely, business can continue.. but what about all the business that needs to be done in person?
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the fogging is a huge issue. here it is not so bad in winter luckily.see no way u can work a shift with these goggles.hence my idea to a helmet mask that propels the exhaust.

for now-try some shampoo. rub it on the lense both in and outside surfaces. this doesn't stop it but does help delay the fogging. the better the masks seals the less fogging as well. we have had less issues with it since going to half face masks.
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Shampoo doesn't gunk it up? See my shaving cream tip above. Barbasol isn't just for giving you the smell ladies love anymore ;)
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Back from drain declogging ... was successful (on my second attempt -- I tried a few days ago, too) with a handheld drain snake down the grate, a long hook up the pipe, a longhandled grabber, and a fair amount of elbow grease. Came home smelling like Wordsworth! (In fact, I thought of him as I was mucking around in the nasty water with poop and rotting seeds.... yuck.)

I think CDC-ATL brings up an interesting question, put side by side with the many longterm sequelae we know exist for some patients (and the many articles CC and others have posted on this).... of course science doesn't yet have the answers to this question, but it is interesting to ponder why some areas seem to have a lot of people who fail to recover, whereas others don't.

In my personal circle, I now know a lot of people who have lost friends and relatives to this, and I personally know two longhaulers, and a few others who may turn out to be longhaulers. I'm thinking maybe certain variants are more likely to have longterm consequences. The CA variant seems to be pretty nasty -- though the science is so contradictory it's a bit hard to make much sense of it.

Let me throw this out there, just as a point of comparison. Many people who get Lyme recover just fine, especially with early antibiotics. Some seem to recover, but then relapse. Some people don't recover fully even with early antibiotics, and for some of us it becomes a lifelong disease. The science has been really skewed regarding Lyme (don't get me started on that) so it is hard to know the real percentages of people who become Lyme lifers, but it's added up to millions of us over the years.

At least with COVID, there's already a fair amount of attention being put towards the longhaulers, unlike with CFIDS, chronic Lyme, Fibromyalgia, and so forth (all of which are likely post-infectious or long-term infection syndromes). This is happening because an estimated 10 to 20% of infected people go on to develop long-haul COVID... and the numbers of chronically ill people will be staggering.
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Nice response ty.
This is my issue that's the reason I posted. Wife is kinda running out faith on this thing, I myself have fair more questions than awnser. We do have friends in the medical field, their kids all in school and they go on vacations.
I see the studies and no I dont read them all. But I kinda feel like I dont have any legs to stand on when I say no we shouldn't go here or there not yet.

I think I have some fair questions that we should have some answers, or some hypotheses to why is been such a slow go on a virus that shut the world. I'm not a doctor nor scientifically minded. (Joe the lab assistant) I've told cc for our family this virus has been a plus, we focus more on family, knew ideas to have a family outing, I stopped chasing money and started realizing what matters.

Anyways hope you all are well! We did a 7 hour hike with a couple yesterday and the distance and being outside made me feel comfortable
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That's my post it just signed me out
Nothing will change, unless something changes
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In just random case studies.... I don’t post them all.... their in the 1,000s.... and reading news articles.... there is an increase in diabetes.

There have also been a few cases that resolved, but doctors can’t pinpoint why. And not all were obese.

Based on the conversations.... there looks to be a big cohort compilation going on.... might get that study before summer.

Oklahoma seeing increase of diabetes in children, COVID-19 may be to blame
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“We have been able to look back in reflection over the last five years of data and we’re seeing a pretty dramatic increase, upward approaching 20%, just in this one-year timeframe,” Tryggestad said.

[link to kfor.com (secure)]

(I just a bunch of internal medicine nightmares as the waves keep coming.... which that’s exactly how I found the nightmare data...)
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I think I'm one of these. If y'all remember, I had my annual physical exam in August or so of 2019. My sugar levels were on the high side of normal, but still within tolerances.

Fast forward to early 2020 and all of a sudden my sugar spikes to 440 and my doctor diagnoses me with Type II diabetes. Now, a year after medication and diet changes, my sugar is not only back to normal, but I've experienced more sugar crashes over the past six months than my entire life. Used to be I would have one, maybe two a year. Now it's more like one a week.

Thing of it is, to my knowledge, I never had Covid. So I'm stuck wondering if this was just coincidental timing or if I somehow picked up Covid very early in the pandemic and was just completely asymptomatic. I doubt if I'll ever know for sure.
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There might be something weird going on with diabetes, Riff. I'm having similar things happen for the last year. I'm not down to normal yet, but I've been able to get it down into the middle to lower 200's. What I DO know is when my sugar is that high, there's something else going on too. Is it my heart? Idk. The last time I was uncontrolled was when my kidneys shut down. Related? Maybe.

There's a thread floating around the board about high blood sugars too. I'll see if I can find it.
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Well, for me at least, if my sugar gets that high, I become extremely lethargic, and I'm told that's due to my body working so hard to bring my sugar levels down. If my sugar crashes, I become very shaky and my balance is affected. Are your symptoms similar?

I use an app called "Blood Glucose Tracker" to record my sugar levels when I test them. Here's a perfect example of what's going on with me: On February 20th, my blood sugar tested at 160 at 08:00 before breakfast. Nothing I had eaten the day before should heave produced a result that high. On the exact same day, my sugar crashed to 75 at 15:30. Again, nothing I had eaten for breakfast or lunch should have caused that crash. So I have no idea WTF is going on, other than it's annoying AF.
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Bloody fucking .... ewwww. I am sorry. I would wish nausea on anyone.
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This just does not happen here.....in Iowa.... unless folks need a doctor.... most are just going about their business. And the wave is definitely creeping in..... more reports of coughing, flushed faces, and confused looks....

Nestico’s closes temporarily after staffer tests positive for Covid-19

Less than 50%

Nestico’s in North Syracuse has closed temporarily after a worker tested positive for Covid-19, according to the restaurant.

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CC, the JJ vax is going to b further tested at Rochestor,NY. expect the university will b used.

so it is approved but for more testing. the testing is giving it to more ppl. this is what shills do not understand. all these vaccines are still inn this stage.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


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In just random case studies.... I don’t post them all.... their in the 1,000s.... and reading news articles.... there is an increase in diabetes.

There have also been a few cases that resolved, but doctors can’t pinpoint why. And not all were obese.

Based on the conversations.... there looks to be a big cohort compilation going on.... might get that study before summer.

Oklahoma seeing increase of diabetes in children, COVID-19 may be to blame
LOCAL

“We have been able to look back in reflection over the last five years of data and we’re seeing a pretty dramatic increase, upward approaching 20%, just in this one-year timeframe,” Tryggestad said.

[link to kfor.com (secure)]

(I just a bunch of internal medicine nightmares as the waves keep coming.... which that’s exactly how I found the nightmare data...)
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I think I'm one of these. If y'all remember, I had my annual physical exam in August or so of 2019. My sugar levels were on the high side of normal, but still within tolerances.

Fast forward to early 2020 and all of a sudden my sugar spikes to 440 and my doctor diagnoses me with Type II diabetes. Now, a year after medication and diet changes, my sugar is not only back to normal, but I've experienced more sugar crashes over the past six months than my entire life. Used to be I would have one, maybe two a year. Now it's more like one a week.

Thing of it is, to my knowledge, I never had Covid. So I'm stuck wondering if this was just coincidental timing or if I somehow picked up Covid very early in the pandemic and was just completely asymptomatic. I doubt if I'll ever know for sure.
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There might be something weird going on with diabetes, Riff. I'm having similar things happen for the last year. I'm not down to normal yet, but I've been able to get it down into the middle to lower 200's. What I DO know is when my sugar is that high, there's something else going on too. Is it my heart? Idk. The last time I was uncontrolled was when my kidneys shut down. Related? Maybe.

There's a thread floating around the board about high blood sugars too. I'll see if I can find it.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Well, for me at least, if my sugar gets that high, I become extremely lethargic, and I'm told that's due to my body working so hard to bring my sugar levels down. If my sugar crashes, I become very shaky and my balance is affected. Are your symptoms similar?

I use an app called "Blood Glucose Tracker" to record my sugar levels when I test them. Here's a perfect example of what's going on with me: On February 20th, my blood sugar tested at 160 at 08:00 before breakfast. Nothing I had eaten the day before should heave produced a result that high. On the exact same day, my sugar crashed to 75 at 15:30. Again, nothing I had eaten for breakfast or lunch should have caused that crash. So I have no idea WTF is going on, other than it's annoying AF.
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It will do that from time to time. Back when my numbers were more like yours, that would happen and I could rarely figure it out. There are foods that I shouldn't be able to eat that I do well with. Other foods that are supposed to help lower sugar doesn't always work for me. Stress can jack you up, too.

I keep track of mine old school, in a little notebook. It's what I was taught...just before smartphones. I like it, I can't screw it up by accidently deleting it! LOL
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