Rights or Obligations. What say you?

The wonderful wisdom of the Elders, respectful of the good green earth the great spirit entrusted to us.

You have both.

I wouldn't say you are obligated but you do have a responsibility, its splitting hairs I know but its a hair that needs split in my opinion.

Obligation is more of a requirement, responsibility is to create a desired outcome.

It is imperative that people learn from their mistakes and go forward making the right choices.

Freedom and responsibility require each other.

And yet people in Somalia and Yemen, two of Earth's hell-holes are living with a code of obligation for their generations and are not free.

It's really not a 'border' issue or one specific to the good 'ol USA.

Thanks for the comment.!

Blacks have the right to reparations. Whites have the obligation to pay the reparations.

IMO, one only has obligations towards other humans, particularly family members.

It's no wonder "Native" people never built technologically advanced civilizations, when they were always kow-towing to "Mother Earth" or other such BS.

Jus' sayin'

Brilliant! I was going to post this yesterday but got off on another trail...

I love this place.

The info comes no matter what.



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I think it takes a technologically advanced civilization to build monoliths made of laser-accurate cut stones weighing hundreds of tons adorned with glyphs kow-towing to mother earth and other assorted bullshit.

Uhhh...Mayan Temples. Cities with fresh running water and better sewage systems.

The hands down best agricultural systems with no toxins or pesticides.

Cataclysm took them out.

They lived in harmony with the earth and were aware of so much more of the Spectrum than current civilization.

Just Sayin...

Your glass is empty..

Technological advancement is just that, it doesn't suggest advancement in any other way. Technological advancement if anything is a sign of spiritual decline. There is a fine line of convenience and decadence. The usefulness of technology ends where our misery begins.

You aren't wrong but neither are they.

Yep and while the ancestral Indigenous populations of Earth did not build the great megaliths they honored, respected and protected them. Some cultures though still use the ancient agri-farming methods.

Chichen Itza was designed as an open citadel and that's how the Mayans left it up to the time they they were attacked by the Spanish... who were obvious 'rights' people, complete with an Inquisitioning process. Sad blight on humanity and true history for they tried their best to erase it.

Shame!

Great information right here..

And yet the English colonizers destroyed many of the great megalithic mounds in America.

Right on Bodhi.. The ancient headdress sun glyph.

You see it right? The ancient solar headdress...Viracocha.

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*the knowledge was absorbed from Incas to Olmec/Toltec to Mayan to Aztec and into upper North America as Quetzalcoatl knowledge.

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...and when they landed they weren't talking about what their rights were, they discussed among themselves the obligation they felt they had to rid the world of heresy.


Rights or obligations may be the context the message was drawn in, but the line ultimately being spoken of is me or us.

Indigenous mindset being capable of seeing the colonizers as part of us sharing the same planet. Colonizers not so much capable, looking down on what they perceived to be primitive paganism thanks to their religious indoctrination. It's an interesting paradox to consider though - what would we, as a collective, know of our planet without the advances of western civilization. And what might we know of without the whole shebang of western civilization.


Philosophical waxing enough, though, about that line that divides me from us and what say I about it... honestly, the subset of individuals I feel obligated to in some way is very, very small on account of how unfettered my nature is. Typically, I will either feel obligated to serve whatever need you may have at any time I am able to, or I will feel nothing at all, there is no in-between. There's more perennials I try to tend to in my yard than there are of them :Þ There's even fewer people I've ever accosted on account of feeling a right to do so. It's the ick factor each occurrence leaves, it stays with you, tarnishes something. Most people must've found some way to ignore it, I dunno...

Generally speaking, I tend to think that a set is an awful place for a mind meant to wander.

The Cherokee probably wouldn't be for me despite the fact there is one in my family tree. No buttons in the plains, most a pity :/

Native American regalia is full of astronomical symbolism.

Might this world have been different if Akhenaten's sun-calendar worship had been able to take hold and used as a teaching tool for humanity?

The Glorious Light!!



*we think it so!

Good reflection deafcat.

It's a difficult time we all find ourselves in. Most are barely able to take care of themselves and one other if they can. Caretakers is an honorable task and profession.

Teaching children is of utmost importance. And we can start by not giving them false equivalences like the tooth fairy and santa claus.

One particular society within the Omaha's required 100 charitable acts before joining. No Orphans not taken care of and no hunger.
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That would be all well and good, but since the general population of earth are victims of a long running subtle warfare against them without their realization and having undermined every decision they could possibly make via chemical warfare and propaganda, its war without declaration.

When people make their own decisions you can blame them. When satanic forces subvert the entire existence of humanity, your ONE and only duty as an honor to anything good is to make sure you cage the perpetrators at the edge of existence for all eternity and suffer with them to make sure they stay there.



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And it's a testimony to traditional beliefs that the Native American survived their trials and tribulations at the hands of colonizers who took their children from their homes, sometimes in handcuffs, to a religious doctrination that bordered on what the 3rd reich did - stripping them bare, even their names changed. All designed to steal their cultural heritage and the historical truths it holds, something that has played out over and over in history. Organized religion did that for a specific reason.

For shame.

Check out the militia-like indoctrination in this video starting at 4:30. Good video in its entirety.

If you're saying that the trees I brought into this place being my only obligation isn't good enough for you, then fine, I'm not good enough for you.


reflecting on the viracocha, the fair-skinned people that came from the sea being the line of research that brought my to glp in years counting to thirteen, i couldn't help but think of this (and then delete it because it seemed too personal, but since you opened that door)

no down, no back only be
where we be just past thirteen
circle forward the power of three
nom nom nom to infinity


but on account of how it seems to be my prerogative is not good enough for you, this comes to mind

So long as there be a tide that's breaking
Upon the shores of a creation we're staking
The development of a helix that's trined
By a wandering homeless hyper-dimensional mind
And I have a care to share, the patience hasn't worn thin
For me to see my destiny - one vessel for all the fallen djinn

:aphxfyre:

It doesn't matter what I think about you, nor have I thought anything about you. It matters what you think about you, relativity? If you don't have a problem with yourself then carry on. If you can take my words and do better then by all means. I wish you the best. Go forth with GODSPEED

And the Hopi await the return of the true white brothers (pahana).

For the Inca, they were fooled and history would be much different if they hadn't 'welcomed' the Spanish whites with open arms and warm hospitality.

The tall white bearded race - the men of old and renown spoken of in the bible during the Tower of Babel civilization. Reflected in Mesopotamian art.

But me thinks it was the cross upon the ships sails that did them in for they revered sacred symbology and knew the crosses true meaning.

The same sacred symbologies that the Spanish tried their best to destroy and kill - erase for all time. But they couldn't. In the end it was the Contwistadors that faded from history, not the Viracocha/Quetzalcoatl beliefs..!

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I have an obligation to the past to make the very most of my rights in the present.

Sometimes one has to have "rights" (freedoms) in order to fulfill one's "obligations".

Put that one in your pipe and smoke it :)

Every time.

Obligations are inherent in nature.

The Eagle has respect for the Hawk who flies under it stirring up Earth below it so that the Eagle can see.

The back widow spider has respect for daddy long legs.

The rattlesnake for the garter snake, the birch tree for the evergreen.

Rules on the other hand can be created for purposes that run contrary to the human family and mother nature.

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