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There is a difference between the Oxford/Astra-Zeneca and Pfizer vaccines

 
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There is a difference between the Oxford/Astra-Zeneca and Pfizer vaccines
Oxford/Astra-Zeneca vaccine is an adenovirus vaccine utilizing DNA instead of mRNA.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

"After the vaccine is injected into a person’s arm, the adenoviruses bump into cells and latch onto proteins on their surface. The cell engulfs the virus in a bubble and pulls it inside. Once inside, the adenovirus escapes from the bubble and travels to the nucleus, the chamber where the cell’s DNA is stored. The adenovirus pushes its DNA into the nucleus. The adenovirus is engineered so it can’t make copies of itself, but the gene for the coronavirus spike protein can be read by the cell and copied into a molecule called messenger RNA, or mRNA."

The Pfizer-vaccine works in a slightly different way.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

"...an mRNA vaccine is different, because rather than having the viral protein injected, a person receives genetic material – mRNA – that encodes the viral protein. When these genetic instructions are injected into the upper arm, the muscle cells translate them to make the viral protein directly in the body."
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Re: There is a difference between the Oxford/Astra-Zeneca and Pfizer vaccines
Bah. There's a paywall.

Oxford/Astra-Zeneca vaccine:

[link to www.weforum.org (secure)]

Pfizer-vaccine:

[link to theconversation.com (secure)]
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Re: There is a difference between the Oxford/Astra-Zeneca and Pfizer vaccines
Oxford/Astra-Zeneca vaccine is an adenovirus vaccine utilizing DNA instead of mRNA.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

"After the vaccine is injected into a person’s arm, the adenoviruses bump into cells and latch onto proteins on their surface. The cell engulfs the virus in a bubble and pulls it inside. Once inside, the adenovirus escapes from the bubble and travels to the nucleus, the chamber where the cell’s DNA is stored. The adenovirus pushes its DNA into the nucleus. The adenovirus is engineered so it can’t make copies of itself, but the gene for the coronavirus spike protein can be read by the cell and copied into a molecule called messenger RNA, or mRNA."

The Pfizer-vaccine works in a slightly different way.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

"...an mRNA vaccine is different, because rather than having the viral protein injected, a person receives genetic material – mRNA – that encodes the viral protein. When these genetic instructions are injected into the upper arm, the muscle cells translate them to make the viral protein directly in the body."
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So the Pfizer one is the one to avoid.
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Why are we taking a vaccine that’s 90-95% effective for a virus that has a recovery rate of 99%?

Corrupt leaders love fear. It’s the biggest motivator and a great tool to use for obedience.
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they are both vaccines for a fake Pandemic
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Which is the one that contains nanobots that will instantly turn me into a cyborg, ready for software updates from my master, Locutus of Gates?
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Re: There is a difference between the Oxford/Astra-Zeneca and Pfizer vaccines
The mRNA in all the vaccines, either directly injected or produced as a result of injected DNA, contain the mRNA of HIV-1 fragments.

These HIV-1 fragments are used as a viral vector to make HIV-1, SARS-COV2 and host DNA FUSE.

This is the part they are not telling anyone.

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The vaccines, all of them, are biological weapons.

It is literally insane to let a for-profit company inject INTO YOUR BODY an unapproved totally experimental gene therapy inoculation. Factually speaking, it is not a vaccine at all. Technically and legally it is a gene therapy shot.

Anyway if the population is to be culled, it should be those dumb enough and cowardly enough to take the shot. Sayonara imbeciles. The shot is evil.
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Re: There is a difference between the Oxford/Astra-Zeneca and Pfizer vaccines
Oxford/Astra-Zeneca vaccine is an adenovirus vaccine utilizing DNA instead of mRNA.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

"After the vaccine is injected into a person’s arm, the adenoviruses bump into cells and latch onto proteins on their surface. The cell engulfs the virus in a bubble and pulls it inside. Once inside, the adenovirus escapes from the bubble and travels to the nucleus, the chamber where the cell’s DNA is stored. The adenovirus pushes its DNA into the nucleus. The adenovirus is engineered so it can’t make copies of itself, but the gene for the coronavirus spike protein can be read by the cell and copied into a molecule called messenger RNA, or mRNA."

The Pfizer-vaccine works in a slightly different way.

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

"...an mRNA vaccine is different, because rather than having the viral protein injected, a person receives genetic material – mRNA – that encodes the viral protein. When these genetic instructions are injected into the upper arm, the muscle cells translate them to make the viral protein directly in the body."
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So the Pfizer one is the one to avoid.
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Remember...even the non-Pfizer "vaccines" are EXPERIMENTAL. Oxford / J&J (also EXPERIMENTAL) may not be that great of an alternative. Let me show you what I've been tracking:

Overview:
Pfizer - mrna vaccine for covid-19 (BNT162b2) does induce the body, with RNA, to begin replicating a "protein" for the virus.
Moderna - same as Pfizer but also has other things like the lucifarese and, I think, hydrogel which can never be removed from the body.
(no mrna) AstraZeneca / Oxford (UK) - recombinant viral vector vaccine - adenovirus-vector (chimpanzee adenovirus) Contains MRC-5. Contains ChAdOx1-S. Female sterilization risk.
(no mrna) ImmunityBio - uses Ad5 as a vector. Has four deleted genes that reduce the immune responses it triggers.
(no mrna) Johnson&Johnson - adenovirus-vector vaccine (no mrna). combines genetic material from the new virus with the genes of the adenovirus - which causes the common cold.
(no mrna) Russian Sputnik 5 - human adenovirus-vector vaccine (no mrna). Russia’s Gamaleya Research Institute has a COVID-19 vaccine candidate that uses a combination of Ad5 and Ad26 vectors - but it is unknown if they are making the Sputnik 5 vacc or not. They suggest no alcohol for 45 days and no immunosuppressant drugs may be required. Appears to use a traditional weakened version of virus for traditional learned immunity. Russia has had success exporting its vaccine to countries in the developing world, such as Argentina, Brazil, and India, with Hungary.
(no mrna) China CanSino’s COVID-19 vaccine - uses "Ad5" adenovirus.

Notes:
Novavax (sponsored by Bill Gates) is a nanoparticle encapsulated antigen protein.
Valneva is inactivated whole coronavirus, like the standard flu shot.

The experimental drug "Ab8" may be useful as a therapudic against the covid-19 virus (which is based on SARS-CoV-2). The drug is being developed at University of Pittsburgh.
"Ad5" is a hiv enabler...adenovirus 5 (Ad5) — as a vector to transport some of HIV’s genetic material into the body.
MRC-5 (Medical Research Council cell strain 5) is a diploid human cell culture line composed of fibroblasts, originally developed from research deriving lung tissue of a 14-week-old aborted Caucasian male fetus.
ChAdOx1-S - Recombinant DNA; DNA which is formed by combining DNA from multiple sources. It is a result of genetic recombination. Two different DNA are combined with each other to create a new DNA molecule which is not found in the original genome. It is known as recombinant DNA or chimeric DNA. Foreign DNA can be easily inserted into another organism genome to create a recombinant DNA molecule. The creation of recombinant DNA is done by genetic engineering and recombinant DNA technology. Recombinant DNA is formed in laboratories by bringing together genetic material from different sources.
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ill stick with quercetin and zinc...and other things...

no thanks
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Caution: my post (above) triggered the cloudflare sniff to "validate I'm human". There must be some info in the post that does not conform to the group think.

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Re: There is a difference between the Oxford/Astra-Zeneca and Pfizer vaccines
Both contain the same demon coding, delivery /infection method is different. Astrazeneca’s is preloaded, mRNA is offloaded
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ABSOLUTELY no way should you be taking the Frankenstein Injections!!!

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Re: There is a difference between the Oxford/Astra-Zeneca and Pfizer vaccines
The mRNA in all the vaccines, either directly injected or produced as a result of injected DNA, contain the mRNA of HIV-1 fragments.

These HIV-1 fragments are used as a viral vector to make HIV-1, SARS-COV2 and host DNA FUSE.

This is the part they are not telling anyone.

[link to www.anthonypatch.com (secure)]
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Re: There is a difference between the Oxford/Astra-Zeneca and Pfizer vaccines
The mRNA in all the vaccines, either directly injected or produced as a result of injected DNA, contain the mRNA of HIV-1 fragments.

These HIV-1 fragments are used as a viral vector to make HIV-1, SARS-COV2 and host DNA FUSE.

This is the part they are not telling anyone.

[link to www.anthonypatch.com (secure)]
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80105991


It's not a false positive.

It's a true positive because the HIV-1 parts have become part of the host DNA.

All vaccines will eventually use foreign mRNA to create the glycoproteins of SARS-COV2 and the HIV-1 fragments used for the viral vectoring.

HIV is a lentivirus.

All in vivo lentiviruses by nature fuse with the host DNA.
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That's the least of our problems.


What happens when the Federal Government is playing Poker with your Biology & lying about Human Experimentation.


If they don't fund the CICP that backs up the Pandemic with the Insurance of last Resort after more than 50 million households have Food & Housing Insecurity 

Nazi Germany is what we are getting her more tgan 70 years after WWII


As the Pandemic for SARS COV-2 ( COVID-19) ravages the US across more than 3,142 Cities & Counties across the country; I doubt his no mask mandates will work. 

The Public will get re-infected with the Airborne Pandemic since they breath the 2.5 micrometer diameter or smaller virus cluster particles in the air and humans sneeze at 200 miles per hour , which is the rotating speeds of EF5 Tornadoes.

I know of no human who can run at speeds faster than 200 miles per hour so they can runaway from the human sneeze.

28 mph Maximum, Running speed of humans

50 – 80 mph Maximum Running speeds of a Cheetah !

However, stupid is as stupid does. 

Also the Countermeasure Injury Compensation Program ( CICP ) under Health Resources and Services Administration ( HRSA ) overseen by Deputy Director Tamara Overby that backs up Seriouse Adverse Events as the insurance of last resort has NO Discretionary Funding by the US and is an empty vessel --- phantom limb --- Emperor has no Cloths --- 

It can probably pay only 3 claims in an entire year and has only 1 year statute of limitation ! How is it going to cover all the FDA Emergency Use Authorizations EUA technologies ::: Vaccines, Anti-Viral Drugs, Monoclonal Antibodies, Immunoglobulins, Convalescent Plasma, Ventilators, Serology Assays, etc ? And how will it cover Medical negligence , Medical malpractice, injury torts by the Healthcare workers, Medical Doctors, Surgeons, Anesthesiologist, Pharmacists, Dentists etc since they are getting Liability Immunity since the PREP Act was declared by Alex Azar, Secretary of HHS since Feb. 4, 2020 and effective till Oct 2024 ?


Covered Countermeasure Process Fund
, Health Resources and Services Administration, Health and Human Services

$223,521

As of Dec 31, 2020 on the www.usaspending.gov/explorer/agency

You need to choose HHS and look for the account ! deviltard
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Why are we taking a vaccine that’s 90-95% effective for a virus that has a recovery rate of 99%?

Corrupt leaders love fear. It’s the biggest motivator and a great tool to use for obedience.
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The IFR is 0.05% meaning survival rate is 99.95%

Same as seasonal influenza.
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Why are we taking a vaccine that’s 90-95% effective for a virus that has a recovery rate of 99%?

Corrupt leaders love fear. It’s the biggest motivator and a great tool to use for obedience.
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The IFR is 0.05% meaning survival rate is 99.95%

Same as seasonal influenza.
 Quoting: Emergency Patriot Hologram


This is a long read, but well worth it, Mrna is everything you thought it was and is so much worse than that.
[link to enformtk.u-aizu.ac.jp]
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PREP Act - COVID-19 Related Information

Notice of Declaration under the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act for medical countermeasures against COVID-19
(February 4, 2020)



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documents/2020/03/17/2020-05484/declaration-under-the-public-​readiness-and-emergency-preparedness-act-for-medical-counterm​easures


" The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP Act) authorizes the Secretary of Health and Human Services (the Secretary) to issue a Declaration to provide liability immunity to certain individuals and entities (Covered Persons) against any claim of loss caused by, arising out of, relating to, or resulting from the manufacture, distribution, administration, or use of medical countermeasures (Covered Countermeasures), except for claims involving “willful misconduct” as defined in the PREP Act. This Declaration is subject to amendment as circumstances warrant. "


. . .


" Section XIV. Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program

Section 319F-4 of the PHS Act, 42 U.S.C. 247d-6e, authorizes the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP) to provide benefits to eligible individuals who sustain a serious physical injury or die as a direct result of the administration or use of a Covered Countermeasure. Compensation under the CICP for an injury directly caused by a Covered Countermeasure is based on the requirements set forth in this Declaration, the administrative rules for the Program, and the statute. To show direct causation between a Covered Countermeasure and a serious physical injury, the statute requires “compelling, reliable, valid, medical and scientific evidence.” The administrative rules for the Program further explain the necessary requirements for eligibility under the CICP. Please note that, by statute, requirements for compensation under the CICP may not align with the requirements for liability immunity provided under the PREP Act. Section XIV of the Declaration, “Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program,” explains the types of injury and standard of evidence needed to be considered for compensation under the CICP.

Further, the administrative rules for the CICP specify that if countermeasures are administered or used outside the United States, only otherwise eligible individuals at United States embassies, military installations abroad (such as military bases, ships, and camps) or at North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) installations (subject to the NATO Status of Forces Agreement) where American servicemen and servicewomen are stationed may be considered for CICP benefits. Other individuals outside the United States may not be eligible for CICP benefits. "



. . .


XIV. COUNTERMEASURES INJURY COMPENSATION PROGRAM
42 U.S.C 247d-6e

The PREP Act authorizes the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP) to provide benefits to certain individuals or estates of individuals who sustain a covered serious physical injury as the direct result of the administration or use of the Covered Countermeasures, and benefits to certain survivors of individuals who die as a direct result of the administration or use of the Covered Countermeasures. The causal connection between the countermeasure and the serious physical injury must be supported by compelling, reliable, valid, medical and scientific evidence in order for the individual to be considered for compensation. The CICP is administered by the Health Resources and Services Administration, within the Department of Health and Human Services. Information about the CICP is available at the toll-free number 1-855-266-2427 or [link to www.hrsa.gov]
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Yeah .....

Like I'm a Baboon ----

I'm not getting vacinnated until I see billions in the CICP Account Fund to cover the Autoimmune disaster and deaths from these FDA EUA experimental vaccines !



Covered Countermeasure Process Fund, Health Resources and Services Administration, Health and Human Services

$223,521

As of Dec 31, 2020 on the www.usaspending.gov/explorer/agency

You need to choose HHS and look for the account !






Covered Countermeasure Process Fund, Health Resources and Services Administration, Health and Human Services

$223,521

As of Dec 31, 2020 on the www.usaspending.gov/explorer/agency

You need to choose HHS and look for the account !
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Why not use a traditional vaccine, if you need a vaccine, instead of experimental gene therapy?
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Wait for NOVAVAX … its old school tech and getting most
testing
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Why are we taking a vaccine that’s 90-95% effective for a virus that has a recovery rate of 99%?

Corrupt leaders love fear. It’s the biggest motivator and a great tool to use for obedience.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75232992


The IFR is 0.05% meaning survival rate is 99.95%

Same as seasonal influenza.
 Quoting: Emergency Patriot Hologram


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What matters to me is not the differences but the fact that they ALL are made from aborted babies
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What matters to me is not the differences but the fact that they ALL are made from aborted babies
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but...but the pope said it was OK. Just like eating meat on Fridays. All is good. Things change.
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Wait for NOVAVAX … its old school tech and getting most
testing
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That’s also by Bill Gates. Touch not
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Why not use a traditional vaccine, if you need a vaccine, instead of experimental gene therapy?
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Because everything is now experimental. Same encoding, different delivery method - both will change your DNA
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Why not use a traditional vaccine, if you need a vaccine, instead of experimental gene therapy?
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Because traditional vaccine approaches are associated with ADE when used for coronaviruses.

Of course, this might also be true of the novel covid vaccines -- we'll know more when they finish the clinical trials in 2023.

We might know more before then, if ADE appears in the enthusiastic people that are willing to take the experimental vaccines before the clinical trials are finished.
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Why are we taking a vaccine that’s 90-95% effective for a virus that has a recovery rate of 99%?

Corrupt leaders love fear. It’s the biggest motivator and a great tool to use for obedience.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75232992


People ARE dumb.
I know somebody that "recovered " from covid.
His lungs are destroyed now..
He is coughing all the time. Dr told him he may never recover.





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