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75% of the jobs created in February were waiters and bartenders. This is insanity. We don't need minimum wage jobs, which honestly these are WORSE as their tips offset their hourly wages.

We need INDUSTRIAL jobs.

Lest you think someone can always get a job in healthcare, RNs today make 30% than they did in the eighties based on inflation. They can hardly get people to become RNs because of it.

The same is true of physicians. They make 30% less because of reduced reimbursement due to managed care. Many physicians said fuck it as running a parctice is too expensive and became hospitalists.
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If a job can be replaced by a robot when it's cost effective, it's not a job. It's a placeholder.

Jobs for jobs sake is silly.

I'm sure there are MANY things that would be better produced in the US but after that ... then what? Those are only so many jobs.
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Industrial automation is a red herring. Things have been automated and mechanized since the dawn of time. The problem is that a huge portion of US jobs have been sent overseas, leaving a large pool of unemployed to compete for whatever is left.
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"jobs"

look at what you typed

who the hell wants a job that a 6 year old chinese kid or a robot can do???
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Ask your father or your two grandfathers why they took those jobs.
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There's nothing in between. Removal of factory jobs for the masses has created a glut of "highly skilled professionals" to the extent that the majority of those degreed jobs now pay garbage salaries. Go to school for 4 years, get out with an accounting degree to get paid $17/hr with $100K in student loan debts that must be paid, outrageous required healthcare costs, outrageous rents, and compete against foreign H1Bs for US jobs while already in a saturated market.

The alternative is to work in the service sector or trades there really is nothing else. The largest employment sector before the 2000s was factory work!
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my father died in a factory

my grandfathers died about 6-10 months after stopping factory

there are so many factory jobs ... i just don't want my kids to die at work like their grandpas

when i was in college, my dad's union had a program where we could work there and get paid union wages

i did it three summers

the whole idea of the program was to keep us in college

everyone uses accounting and english ... the fact of the matter is anyone who wants to wake up and work a 9-5 can get a corporate job (not the best, but a job) for MUCH LESS RISK than their factory counterparts ... with any degree

that's a fact

but we can talk about it more
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Unfortunately, I think you're living in 1980. Even half the entry level corporate desk monkey jobs now want masters degrees just to get an interview. The fact is, there are not enough "degreed professional" jobs to go around and there never have been. Most people worked menial task labor jobs their entire lives until about 20 years ago.

Every single professional position out there has 500 qualified applicants. The only reason most of these people have degrees to begin with is they were pushed to do so for lack of industrial jobs.
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No way.

I was 5 years old in 1980.

I'm not going to argue that a lot of "professions" are not nonsense, though.

I've been automating accountants out of work since 1998.

I dunno maybe bc im a kid from a CRAZY city in NJ where we grew up on the streets and we had to scrap for everything, so I'm scrappy.

I think nothing of automating the business processes of an entire accounting or QA or HR or whatever department.

That's the GOAL. That's what we worked for since the industrial revolution. More leisure, less work.

I just wish the politics would keep up!

Last Edited by SugarSand on 03/09/2021 07:20 PM
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Hehe since we're on page 5 I think my trolling mission to bump up this thread ends,AM in here anyway. Bbyepigchef
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Globalism and feminism killed the golden goose of American industrial jobs. Democrats are primarily to blame but some RINOs went along with it.

They sold the idea of a transitional service economy followed by green jobs. What really happened was Walmart became among the biggest employers. The average Walmart worker to survive uses EBT cards. In other words, Walmart is subsidized by theUS Government!!!

This is insanity. This will never support US real estate.
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If a job can be replaced by a robot when it's cost effective, it's not a job. It's a placeholder.

Jobs for jobs sake is silly.

I'm sure there are MANY things that would be better produced in the US but after that ... then what? Those are only so many jobs.
 Quoting: SugarSand


Industrial automation is a red herring. Things have been automated and mechanized since the dawn of time. The problem is that a huge portion of US jobs have been sent overseas, leaving a large pool of unemployed to compete for whatever is left.
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"jobs"

look at what you typed

who the hell wants a job that a 6 year old chinese kid or a robot can do???
 Quoting: SugarSand


Ask your father or your two grandfathers why they took those jobs.
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You SERIOUSLY didn't think I asked that when they were alive, 10+ years ago.

For real.

I know why they "took" those jobs in the 40s, 50s, 60, 70s and 80s. What's your point?

Last Edited by SugarSand on 03/09/2021 07:20 PM
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Hehe since we're on page 5 I think my trolling mission to bump up this thread ends,AM in here anyway. Bbyepigchef
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Good job, kiddo! much respect!!, from the Queen of trolls...
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No great service economy followed. No green job revolution followed.

Things are so bad in the last 15 years that few buy vehicles but lease instead. How long do you think that will last?

The Democrats and RINOs have three the healthy early nighties middle class into service workers on welfare who are lower class.

It is unsustainable.
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Industrial automation is a red herring. Things have been automated and mechanized since the dawn of time. The problem is that a huge portion of US jobs have been sent overseas, leaving a large pool of unemployed to compete for whatever is left.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79498103


"jobs"

look at what you typed

who the hell wants a job that a 6 year old chinese kid or a robot can do???
 Quoting: SugarSand


Ask your father or your two grandfathers why they took those jobs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79498103


You SERIOUSLY didn't think I asked that when they were alive, 10+ years ago.

For real.

I know why they "tookj" those jobs. What
s your point?
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Why don't you explain to the class why your father and two grandfathers took jobs "a 6 year old chinese kid or a robot can do?"
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No great service economy followed. No green job revolution followed.

Things are so bad in the last 15 years that few buy vehicles but lease instead. How long do you think that will last?

The Democrats and RINOs have transformed the healthy early nighties middle class into service workers on welfare who are lower class.

It is unsustainable.
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Oh, there's lots of work for those that are willing to take it.

Sadly, far too many would rather sit on their asses with their hands out, demanding "muh free shit" while never understanding that they are destroying the very economy that PROVIDES that free shit. It's ridiculous to watch.

Kudos and congrats to your daughter for being on the right path. I won't say starting early, as I (and you, I'm sure) had a summer job on a farm from the time I was ten. And good on you for making sure she goes to each interview and really considers her options.

Love a feel-good story for once! Thank you.

hf

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I'm a software developer. I hustled my whole life since I was 15 and worked on a farm, and at a pizza place, and then a lot of pizza places then bars, restaurants, factories ...

I'm divorced but I told her ...

"You have the initiative of both me and daddy combined. I expect you to really kill it in college."

I don't know why it's so exciting but it is.

She could be a lazy fuck.

But she's not.

She put on her resume that she has been responsible for over a hundred girl scout cookie booths, x number of volunteer hours and x hours watching her siblings. She worked it. I had literally nothing to do with this push for jobs, but I'm so proud.

Mama is happy.

She'll always be ok.
 Quoting: SugarSand


GOOD ON YOU, MOM!!!


JOB WELL DONE.


clappa


clappa
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Why do you think so many poor basement dwelling immature young adults are becoming Marxists and Anarchists? 33% of Millennials have to live with their parents and grandparents.

The last time that happened was 1880-1945. The Democrats and RINOs have erased the middle class to help the globalists and feminists.

Eventually they will revolt and likely be bootlickers of the Chicoms.
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Globalism and feminism killed the golden goose of American industrial jobs. Democrats are primarily to blame but some RINOs went along with it.

They sold the idea of a transitional service economy followed by green jobs. What really happened was Walmart became among the biggest employers. The average Walmart worker to survive uses EBT cards. In other words, Walmart is subsidized by theUS Government!!!

This is insanity. This will never support US real estate.
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Blame me.

I can take it.

Most people blame me, anyway.

I've been the breadwinner for my family since I was a kid.

My whole thing is .. "would you say that to your neighbor who works all day? your brother?"


The economy has always sucked since I've been eligible to participate (1991) and WAY before if you ask my dad (he died in a factory in 2012, so no one can ask him and it's ok).

People's expectations are insane.

I say people's ... but you all know who I'm talking about!
When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug
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Anyone praising a kid making $12 an hour does NOT comprehend economics and inflation whatsoever. They are clueless satanic twats.

That is minimum wage compared to 1974 or 1991. You moron! You can't do math!
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Why do you think so many poor basement dwelling immature young adults are becoming Marxists and Anarchists? 33% of Millennials have to live with their parents and grandparents.

The last time that happened was 1880-1945. The Democrats and RINOs have erased the middle class to help the globalists and feminists.

Eventually they will revolt and likely be bootlickers of the Chicoms.
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I have no idea. My basement is dank. No one would willingly go there. Not even if I paid them my salary.

When it's all said and done I will have raised 4 of them.

2 came out of my body, two were because I loved their fathers.

They all hustle. They all got that from me :)
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Anyone praising a kid making $12 an hour does NOT comprehend economics and inflation whatsoever. They are clueless satanic twats.

That is minimum wage compared to 1974 or 1991. You moron! You can't do math!
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I don't give a shit if she was making $3.35 like I did.

I've been paying expenses for what turned out to be 4 kids since 2001.

I'm not PROUD because of her WAGE.

I'm proud that I have a straight a kid who wants a certain kind of sneakers so bad she harvested 6 fucking job interviews to get them.

Last Edited by SugarSand on 03/09/2021 07:33 PM
When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug
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Oh, there's lots of work for those that are willing to take it.

Sadly, far too many would rather sit on their asses with their hands out, demanding "muh free shit" while never understanding that they are destroying the very economy that PROVIDES that free shit. It's ridiculous to watch.

Kudos and congrats to your daughter for being on the right path. I won't say starting early, as I (and you, I'm sure) had a summer job on a farm from the time I was ten. And good on you for making sure she goes to each interview and really considers her options.

Love a feel-good story for once! Thank you.

hf

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


I'm a software developer. I hustled my whole life since I was 15 and worked on a farm, and at a pizza place, and then a lot of pizza places then bars, restaurants, factories ...

I'm divorced but I told her ...

"You have the initiative of both me and daddy combined. I expect you to really kill it in college."

I don't know why it's so exciting but it is.

She could be a lazy fuck.

But she's not.

She put on her resume that she has been responsible for over a hundred girl scout cookie booths, x number of volunteer hours and x hours watching her siblings. She worked it. I had literally nothing to do with this push for jobs, but I'm so proud.

Mama is happy.

She'll always be ok.
 Quoting: SugarSand


GOOD ON YOU, MOM!!!


JOB WELL DONE.


clappa


clappa
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


thank you ... there's a lot more to go!!!!

hf

Last Edited by SugarSand on 03/09/2021 07:32 PM
When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug
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Globalism and feminism killed the golden goose of American industrial jobs. Democrats are primarily to blame but some RINOs went along with it.

They sold the idea of a transitional service economy followed by green jobs. What really happened was Walmart became among the biggest employers. The average Walmart worker to survive uses EBT cards. In other words, Walmart is subsidized by theUS Government!!!

This is insanity. This will never support US real estate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69697180


Blame me.

I can take it.

Most people blame me, anyway.

I've been the breadwinner for my family since I was a kid.

My whole thing is .. "would you say that to your neighbor who works all day? your brother?"


The economy has always sucked since I've been eligible to participate (1991) and WAY before if you ask my dad (he died in a factory in 2012, so no one can ask him and it's ok).

People's expectations are insane.

I say people's ... but you all know who I'm talking about!
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The 90s were mostly still booming. Some industry was dying, but tech was taking its place and being produced here in the US. The first jobs I ever had in the 90s I literally walked in somewhere, talked to the manager and started the next day. I started work as a temp office worker straight out of high school making $16/hr.

Even in the early 2000s I could quit a job and have another within a week.

I lost my job in '08 and couldn't find work for 6 months and was almost homeless.

I moved across country for a job in '15 that didn't work out(long story). I spent a year after that before finding another. That employer was extremely abusive and deceptive, ended up leaving after 9 months. I spent 6 months looking and never landed another interview.

I ended up starting my own business which was declining under pressure from large corps like Amazon however the last year of shutdowns has pretty much destroyed my business altogether. So, back to square one again.

I can't even get a burger flipping job. The manager hears my work history and says why the hell do I want to work there.
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OP your a blathering idiot. You tell us that there are jobs galore only if we stoop low enough to work at a macdonalds. I am the same age as you. No hiring manager wants to hire somebody old enough to be his or her father.
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Free Spanish Language class, he'll be getting paid to learn how to speak spanish and be bi-lingual.
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Free Spanish Language class, he'll be getting paid to learn how to speak spanish and be bi-lingual.
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I'm not sure what that will fetch these days. Out west, being bilingual is practically a basic requirement now.
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Globalism and feminism killed the golden goose of American industrial jobs. Democrats are primarily to blame but some RINOs went along with it.

They sold the idea of a transitional service economy followed by green jobs. What really happened was Walmart became among the biggest employers. The average Walmart worker to survive uses EBT cards. In other words, Walmart is subsidized by theUS Government!!!

This is insanity. This will never support US real estate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69697180


Blame me.

I can take it.

Most people blame me, anyway.

I've been the breadwinner for my family since I was a kid.

My whole thing is .. "would you say that to your neighbor who works all day? your brother?"


The economy has always sucked since I've been eligible to participate (1991) and WAY before if you ask my dad (he died in a factory in 2012, so no one can ask him and it's ok).

People's expectations are insane.

I say people's ... but you all know who I'm talking about!
 Quoting: SugarSand


The 90s were mostly still booming. Some industry was dying, but tech was taking its place and being produced here in the US. The first jobs I ever had in the 90s I literally walked in somewhere, talked to the manager and started the next day. I started work as a temp office worker straight out of high school making $16/hr.

Even in the early 2000s I could quit a job and have another within a week.

I lost my job in '08 and couldn't find work for 6 months and was almost homeless.

I moved across country for a job in '15 that didn't work out(long story). I spent a year after that before finding another. That employer was extremely abusive and deceptive, ended up leaving after 9 months. I spent 6 months looking and never landed another interview.

I ended up starting my own business which was declining under pressure from large corps like Amazon however the last year of shutdowns has pretty much destroyed my business altogether. So, back to square one again.

I can't even get a burger flipping job. The manager hears my work history and says why the hell do I want to work there.
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I'm sorry. I don't know what to say.

I'm a woman, and I've always been the primary, usually sole support for my family.

I married once. I married a man with a wonderful child with a deceased mom, who I consider my own son and we had 2 lovely daughters. Then we divorced, and now I am in a relationship and even though we did not legally marry, I have another step daughter.

So, I feel like I raised 4 ... 22, 15 ,11 and 9

I never stopped working. If I couldn't work for a living, or make my own money, I'd die. I'm 45 years old and fought the mommy wars.

All this theoretical shit is just theoretical.

Your experience is real.

Just like mine is.

I'm a big advocate of UBI. Andrew Yang is right on and the only reason we don't have this is because people have huge chips on their shoulders that they are not willing to shrug off.

People who don't support UBI are blind, or they are carrying around some idea that there is virtue in busy work ... in any work ... and that is nonsense.

I hope and wish it went another way for you, but I'm pulling for UBI.

hf


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OP your a blathering idiot. You tell us that there are jobs galore only if we stoop low enough to work at a macdonalds. I am the same age as you. No hiring manager wants to hire somebody old enough to be his or her father.
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I ain't telling you shit except my daughter has two jobs.
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Free Spanish Language class, he'll be getting paid to learn how to speak spanish and be bi-lingual.
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they get that in school in spades
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OP your a blathering idiot. You tell us that there are jobs galore only if we stoop low enough to work at a macdonalds. I am the same age as you. No hiring manager wants to hire somebody old enough to be his or her father.
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I get it now why the stupid millennials tell people to learn to code.

If you are the same age as me, and you can't get hired ...

I'm sorry.

That fucking attitude is awful.

No wonder.
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minus taxes 12 an hour , not a living wage!
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Bunny Belle Dalphine makes 1 million a month.
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Semi-decent money for a teenager.

Dog shit money for an adult with actual bills
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I kid you not that my parents threw me out when I got a job at fifteen. It was a hard wait to get into the military from that point on. Back in the '80s. I was couch surfing, taking college courses, but didn't have the support to follow through. Life ended up nice though. Made me tougher. Still hate my parents.
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Great another feminist who thinks she is superwoman. Meanwhile women today are worse off then their great-grandfathers.
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Great another feminist who thinks she is superwoman. Meanwhile women today are worse off then their great-grandmothers.
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Feminism destroyed the American traditional family.





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