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SHOOTING VIDEO - Austin Tx cop charged with MURDER in shooting of unarmed meth suspect is released on 100k bond

 
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People calling the cops and making false declarations should be prosecuted hard, at least as hard as the lies they were spreading.
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My grandma told me, A liar is worst than a thief. A thief will steal from you, but a liar will hang you.
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Very simple follow the officers commands and don't get shot!

I'm not always on the cops side in these incidents, but these peace officers were there to keep the peace after receiving complaints about a man smoking crack with a gun.Clear and concise instructions were given and the suspect acknowledged he understood them by answering them in english . Not an easy job for sure.
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Except there was no gun ever found

The guy was simply having a mental breakdown

Tried to drive away from his parking lot

Did not endanger anyone

Cop shot him through his car with a rifle killing him

Cops are not God or judge and jury

Murdering people is not helping the police do their job any better

So all you jack boot thugs should wake up

Boot lickers

No more impunity for muderers with a badge

The cops life was not in danger

They could have blocked his car in or many other things

Notice their action is all based on some false report
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73808856


Wrong!

Driving a deadly weapon (car) at police while engaging in suspected felonious activity with a possible hostage at gunpoint + limo tint windows + failure to comply during a felony stop = justified lethal force.

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Passenger was not in the car, she had exited. They should have known that the call was ficticious when they couldnt see in the windows
C`mon man!
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Watch the video to the end, says passenger in car was not struck, so yes, she was in the car
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Except there was no gun ever found

The guy was simply having a mental breakdown

Tried to drive away from his parking lot

Did not endanger anyone

Cop shot him through his car with a rifle killing him

Cops are not God or judge and jury

Murdering people is not helping the police do their job any better

So all you jack boot thugs should wake up

Boot lickers

No more impunity for muderers with a badge

The cops life was not in danger

They could have blocked his car in or many other things

Notice their action is all based on some false report
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73808856


Wrong!

Driving a deadly weapon (car) at police while engaging in suspected felonious activity with a possible hostage at gunpoint + limo tint windows + failure to comply during a felony stop = justified lethal force.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74053863


Passenger was not in the car, she had exited. They should have known that the call was ficticious when they couldnt see in the windows
C`mon man!
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Watch the video to the end, says passenger in car was not struck, so yes, she was in the car
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You watch the video and pay attention to the passenger side and notice the blurred out image of the passenger standing there while commands were being made. She was blurred out because, like the driver...she too was innocent and they have no right to release her identity.
The thugs with badges are fishing for public sympathy which they seem to be getting alot of from people like you.
This was premeditated, they discussed exactly how they were going to take him out. They should fry.
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Guy wasn't committing a crime, didn't have a gun, and didn't do anything wrong. Wasn't driving toward any cops. They didn't even have a reason they could make up to shoot the guy. You can't just shoot someone because they are getting swatted.

I think the title is misleading to make you think funny stuff about the video. The guy was actually swatted.
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An Austin Texas police officer charged with murder in the fatal shooting last year of an unarmed Austin man was booked into jail and released on bond Thursday, authorities said.

An arrest warrant was issued Wednesday for Austin police Officer Christopher Taylor in the death of Michael Ramos. The officer fatally shot him with a rifle in April as he drove away after another officer shot him with a beanbag gun.

Taylor, 29, was booked into the Travis County jail early Thursday and released a half-hour later on a $100,000 bond and the condition that he not posses a gun..

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GUY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. MILITANT FUCKING GESTAPO PIGS HAD NO CAUSE TO SHOOT.
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The 911 caller said the guy in the car had a gun and was pointing it at a woman in his car.

That's the info given to the officers.

If the 911 caller lied on purpose he should be charged with a false report leading to the death of another person. If he thought he saw a gun, he should have explained that to the 911 dispatcher.

If the victim was high on drugs...well, guess high on drugs makes you stupid.
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Guy wasn't committing a crime, didn't have a gun, and didn't do anything wrong. Wasn't driving toward any cops. They didn't even have a reason they could make up to shoot the guy. You can't just shoot someone because they are getting swatted.

I think the title is misleading to make you think funny stuff about the video. The guy was actually swatted.
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Exactly.
Any person who is reading this thread could be accused of the same by an anonymous caller.
Warning! Do not Piss Off Your Neighbors!
If you do, expect to be shot by thugs with a badge.
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The conversation prior pretty clearly indicates they wanted to get this guy at any cost due to prior incidents.

You can hear he is getting all sorts of differing commands from different directions which is typical.

This isn't the worst police one I have seen, but it isn't good either.

They overcharged him with murder because all states grant almost blanket immunity to cops making that almost impossible to convict for. The prosecuting attorney knows he will be exonerated that is how the game is played by the prosecutor. There are all sorts of serious but but lesser charges that could be leveled for this but they aren't for this very reason.
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Cop definitely should be in prison the rest of his life.
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Re: SHOOTING VIDEO - Austin Tx cop charged with MURDER in shooting of unarmed meth suspect is released on 100k bond
He showed him his belly.

Then the man shot him three times with a rifle. From twenty feet away.
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1. Caller reports man with gun holding it on a lady. Could be wrong but that’s info cops have to go on.

2. When confronted and given clear and concise demands, suspect refuses to comply.

3. Suspect continues to act aggravated and refuses to comply with commands while re entering a car with what may be a hostage inside per the information given by the caller.

4. Suspect tries to flee with the victim still in the car.

Given the Information at hand I would shoot as well, the same people screaming about the suspect dying would be screaming if he got away and killed the lady in the car. There’s no winning for anyone on this, if cops ask you to comply and you don’t expect to be shot at.
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This.


Seems pretty clear to me. If the dude had left and shot the lady in the car people would have been in an uproar
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There was no gun or drugs found on the scene. There was no passenger in the car.
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Man, WTF Dawg?
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Man, WTF Dawg?
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Agreed.

The days of Adam 12 are over, it's worst than a goddamned war zone with psychotic pantywaste chickenshit pigs that can shoot you for no reason and claim "officer safety".

What about our fuckin safety? I tell you this, I dont give a shit what kind of costume you are wearing, you shoot at me for no reason and I'm going to defend myself. I might as well.

The most disturbing thing about it was how they opened fire on him while his hands were up, it proves an intent to kill without justification, they were trying to create justification
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The conversation prior pretty clearly indicates they wanted to get this guy at any cost due to prior incidents.

You can hear he is getting all sorts of differing commands from different directions which is typical.

This isn't the worst police one I have seen, but it isn't good either.

They overcharged him with murder because all states grant almost blanket immunity to cops making that almost impossible to convict for. The prosecuting attorney knows he will be exonerated that is how the game is played by the prosecutor. There are all sorts of serious but but lesser charges that could be leveled for this but they aren't for this very reason.
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Police have been convicted in Texas in several instances in situations very similar to this. We have also had citizens shoot and kill cops and they have been exonerated.

I hear what you're saying , but the black veteran in Dallas that fell off and shot a bunch of them scared the shit out of them, they're not letting them off when it's obvious like this.
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He ded
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Cop definitely should be in prison the rest of his life.
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IMO there is compelling evidence it was preplanned and premeditated, which in Texas is capitol murder and a lethal injection offense, and that means EVERYONE INVOLVED in the killing. There is no way on gods green earth these police were that poorly trained in Austin Texas not to know the criteria for what constitutes reasonable suspicion, and what parameters allow for the taking of a life in self defense.

The glaring reality is that man was under no legal obligation to obey a word they said.


It would be interesting to see if the anonymous caller is ever identified

I bet not. The muffling of the voice was done to conceal the identity of the caller.
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Preacher uses his bible, Carpenter uses his hammer, Cop uses his gun.

Just tools of the trade.

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Preacher uses his bible, Carpenter uses his hammer, Cop uses his gun.

Just tools of the trade.

fuckyeah5
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If you defend this shit and call yourself a patriot you're delusional and insane. It could be you too.

AT any time they could bust into your house guns drawn and shoot you dead, and get clean away with it because people keep defending it like they are brave heroes.

"I thought I saw a gun" is good enough. Think about that, patriots.
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He ded
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One less tweaker.
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Originally used non lethal force and still failed to comply. after the 911 call which indicated a gun was in play. the officer took him out
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It amazes me how many people defend the second amendment and then turn around and defend cops when they shoot someone and use that as an excuse, "I thought he had a gun".

Do you realize how fucking stupid that is? You're saying they are justified in shooting YOU simple because you have a gun.

There was no gun found on the suspect.

It is important to remember that a police officer has no special rights to employ deadly force and the equal rights amendment states point blank every man and woman is protected by and subject to the same laws,set of paramters which must be met as all people who have taken CC classes should be able to tell you, and can only be employed in the direct defense of human life when a reasonable person would conclude the suspects intent was to kill them.

Shooting a person fleeing you in a car would get you a murder conviction.
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not the sharpest tools on this site
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He ded
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One less tweaker.
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As fat as that guy was there was no way he does meth. Sorry , don't buy it.

Ive seen enough of these shitheads and almost all of them are white beanpoles with rotten teeth with dead eyes that look like pissholes in the snow, and generally speaking the police dont bother them because the police control the drugs.
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Originally used non lethal force and still failed to comply. after the 911 call which indicated a gun was in play. the officer took him out
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78944755


It amazes me how many people defend the second amendment and then turn around and defend cops when they shoot someone and use that as an excuse, "I thought he had a gun".

Do you realize how fucking stupid that is? You're saying they are justified in shooting YOU simple because you have a gun.

There was no gun found on the suspect.

It is important to remember that a police officer has no special rights to employ deadly force and the equal rights amendment states point blank every man and woman is protected by and subject to the same laws,set of paramters which must be met as all people who have taken CC classes should be able to tell you, and can only be employed in the direct defense of human life when a reasonable person would conclude the suspects intent was to kill them.

Shooting a person fleeing you in a car would get you a murder conviction.
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not the sharpest tools on this site
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I'm smart enough to know when people entrusted with enforcing the law and administering it break it with absolute impunity, there is no law, it's just a matter of survival at that point.

Do you?
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He ded
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One less tweaker.
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As fat as that guy was there was no way he does meth. Sorry , don't buy it.

Ive seen enough of these shitheads and almost all of them are white beanpoles with rotten teeth with dead eyes that look like pissholes in the snow, and generally speaking the police dont bother them because the police control the drugs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80128991


We could play what if all day long....almost all ? Guy should have listened to the commands of the police.when their guns are drawn is a good time to pay attention.
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He ded
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One less tweaker.
 Quoting: Super Straight Splinterhead


As fat as that guy was there was no way he does meth. Sorry , don't buy it.

Ive seen enough of these shitheads and almost all of them are white beanpoles with rotten teeth with dead eyes that look like pissholes in the snow, and generally speaking the police dont bother them because the police control the drugs.
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We could play what if all day long....almost all ? Guy should have listened to the commands of the police.when their guns are drawn is a good time to pay attention.
 Quoting: Super Straight Splinterhead


You could argue that no matter who has several rifles trained on you, it is the "smart" thing to obey them, no matter who they are. Doe that mean your best move isnt to try to get away?

I know a few people who are still alive because they didnt listen, and ran and got away, people who would be dead right now if they didnt.

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IMO was dead before he ever got out of the car.

There was no way in hell he was living through that encounter with those criminal thugs, no matter what he did they were going to kill him.

The muffled anonymous call is the key to understanding what actually happened. It was pre planned.
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One less tweaker.
 Quoting: Super Straight Splinterhead


As fat as that guy was there was no way he does meth. Sorry , don't buy it.

Ive seen enough of these shitheads and almost all of them are white beanpoles with rotten teeth with dead eyes that look like pissholes in the snow, and generally speaking the police dont bother them because the police control the drugs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80128991


We could play what if all day long....almost all ? Guy should have listened to the commands of the police.when their guns are drawn is a good time to pay attention.
 Quoting: Super Straight Splinterhead


You could argue that no matter who has several rifles trained on you, it is the "smart" thing to obey them, no matter who they are. Doe that mean your best move isnt to try to get away?

I know a few people who are still alive because they didnt listen, and ran and got away, people who would be dead right now if they didnt.

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If you want to gamble, you should realize your not always going to win.
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He ded
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One less tweaker.
 Quoting: Super Straight Splinterhead


As fat as that guy was there was no way he does meth. Sorry , don't buy it.

Ive seen enough of these shitheads and almost all of them are white beanpoles with rotten teeth with dead eyes that look like pissholes in the snow, and generally speaking the police dont bother them because the police control the drugs.
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We could play what if all day long....almost all ? Guy should have listened to the commands of the police.when their guns are drawn is a good time to pay attention.
 Quoting: Super Straight Splinterhead


I noticed you switched from "he was a meth head, good riddance" to another angle. Why?

People like you will justify a white police officer killing a non white person NO MATTER the circumstances, it is just that simple. You will jump through hoops like a trained poodle talking about officer safety and it was the dead mans fault. I wonder what you would say if a Hispanic cop shot YOUR son under he exact same circumstances.

I bet you would have a very different perspective , wouldnt you??
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As fat as that guy was there was no way he does meth. Sorry , don't buy it.

Ive seen enough of these shitheads and almost all of them are white beanpoles with rotten teeth with dead eyes that look like pissholes in the snow, and generally speaking the police dont bother them because the police control the drugs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80128991


We could play what if all day long....almost all ? Guy should have listened to the commands of the police.when their guns are drawn is a good time to pay attention.
 Quoting: Super Straight Splinterhead


You could argue that no matter who has several rifles trained on you, it is the "smart" thing to obey them, no matter who they are. Doe that mean your best move isnt to try to get away?

I know a few people who are still alive because they didnt listen, and ran and got away, people who would be dead right now if they didnt.

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If you want to gamble, you should realize your not always going to win.
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That's why citizens should travel in armed groups of at least four. I noticed the police dont mess with them much when they do. Did you notice that too?

None of that "I saw a gun" shit.
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Premeditated murder, no ifs, ands or buts.
If I were prosecutor I guarantee 100% murder conviction with death penalty.
They planned it, they have no defense. And I am sure that the video has been edited as well as statements redacted. The video they released is the most distorted sound and obstructed view that they could pick from all who were on scene.
There is a hell of a lot more to this picture than meets the eye.
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Premeditated murder, no ifs, ands or buts.
If I were prosecutor I guarantee 100% murder conviction with death penalty.
They planned it, they have no defense. And I am sure that the video has been edited as well as statements redacted. The video they released is the most distorted sound and obstructed view that they could pick from all who were on scene.
There is a hell of a lot more to this picture than meets the eye.
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Yep, the key to proving premeditation is linking one or more of the officers to the muffled caller. There is a motive here, most likely drugs or a biracial relationship involving the dead man and one of the cops sister would be a good bet.


That's why they digitized the voice, so we couldn't pin him down and make the connection.
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We could play what if all day long....almost all ? Guy should have listened to the commands of the police.when their guns are drawn is a good time to pay attention.
 Quoting: Super Straight Splinterhead


You could argue that no matter who has several rifles trained on you, it is the "smart" thing to obey them, no matter who they are. Doe that mean your best move isnt to try to get away?

I know a few people who are still alive because they didnt listen, and ran and got away, people who would be dead right now if they didnt.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80128991

If you want to gamble, you should realize your not always going to win.
 Quoting: Super Straight Splinterhead

That's why citizens should travel in armed groups of at least four. I noticed the police dont mess with them much when they do. Did you notice that too?

None of that "I saw a gun" shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80128991


Are you for war lords,gangs,and mad Max, cause that's what you have without police. Everybody makes mistakes and controlling violent drug offenders is not an easy task.





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