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Mental Health Issues Silver Bullet? Are You Arrogant?

 
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I listened to nearly everything Jordan Peterson put online.

Out of the hundreds of hours of lectures, this is the most valuable thing I heard him say.

As a clinical psychologist, Dr. Peterson would listen to and engage a person's problems for weeks and months and years. When he finally got to deepest cause, his clients had one thing in common:

arrogance.

The deepest cause of their problems was arrogance. He said this was true for nearly all his patients.

Arrogance had grown inside them and prevented them from connecting with others and prevented them from connecting with the deepest parts of themselves.

Arrogance had strangled them from growth and meaning.

I still am floored by the implications this. Could it be that we are our own worst enemy and there really is a simple (but not easy) solution to many problems?

Is humility the silver bullet for mental health issues?
"We are lived by powers we pretend to understand."
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Self importance is a synonym for arrogance.

So what is some practical advice to reduce self importance?

Having a 'working with others' mentality rather than a 'power over others' mentality.
"We are lived by powers we pretend to understand."
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Re: Mental Health Issues Silver Bullet? Are You Arrogant?
Pride as well..

It's the reason why people won't learn, won't change, won't forgive and they remain frustrated, angry, bitter, ignorant, unhappy..

Humility is powerful

It makes sense as a panacea for mental illness

I know it's true for depression

Depressed people have turned inward, which explains why many want to lay down and die.. no greater cause.. no greater connections of love with others..

Love and humility, the best natural cures

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Arrogance sometimes is just the mask to hide our own insecurities.

One of skitzo friends is quite arrogant and confident often regard chain of events that has no basis in reality and resulting in his own downfall, still, he persists.

Being healthy mental wise, and consider myself humble I can attest to being decisive when confronted with stupidity.
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I listened to nearly everything Jordan Peterson put online.

Out of the hundreds of hours of lectures, this is the most valuable thing I heard him say.

As a clinical psychologist, Dr. Peterson would listen to and engage a person's problems for weeks and months and years. When he finally got to deepest cause, his clients had one thing in common:

arrogance.

The deepest cause of their problems was arrogance. He said this was true for nearly all his patients.

Arrogance had grown inside them and prevented them from connecting with others and prevented them from connecting with the deepest parts of themselves.

Arrogance had strangled them from growth and meaning.

I still am floored by the implications this. Could it be that we are our own worst enemy and there really is a simple (but not easy) solution to many problems?

Is humility the silver bullet for mental health issues?
 Quoting: All My Hemispheres


APA hint:

There is no such thing as mental disease. We really enjoy tracking what you stare at in your reality show cubes.
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Self importance is a synonym for arrogance.

So what is some practical advice to reduce self importance?

Having a 'working with others' mentality rather than a 'power over others' mentality.
 Quoting: All My Hemispheres


Jack and Jill went up the Hill to fetch a pail of Water.
Jack fell down and broke his crown and Jill came tumbling after.

This is the domain of psych-craftwerk.

Few take the trail to the other side of the crest. Jung saw glimpses, a la Moses.
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The primary problem I see people making is confusing pleasure and fun with happiness...Happiness often requires delayed gratification which is counterproductive to instant fun and pleasure...Those choices ultimately lead to a catastrophic end...
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can't eat silver
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can't eat silver
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Colloidal silver
I never forgive and I never forget

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Those clients of his were very successful people paying a high end doctor in private practice.
Or people who sacrificed all meals and coffee out, vacations, new clothes and home decor etc. to pay him for therapy. & He's going to call them arrogant? I don't know about that.
Incidentally, did you hear he became addicted to benzos and the hospital diagnosed him with schizophrenia? No such thing as benzo withdrawal existed. He had to leave the country for real help. Now, a humble person would had just accepted the schizophrenia diagnosis!
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I can see this, also maybe judgmentalness
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Self importance is a synonym for arrogance.

So what is some practical advice to reduce self importance?

Having a 'working with others' mentality rather than a 'power over others' mentality.
 Quoting: All My Hemispheres


Well, I'm the most important guy in any room, so....
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Perhaps simplified, but if you had to put it in one word, yes, he is correct, at least in my opinion. This started with the masses in 1967 with I'm OK, You're OK. It progressed to the next generation and everyone getting trophies for participation. But many of those individuals never learned that there is a disconnect between how they feel about themselves - what they feel they are entitled to - and the real world. So on the one hand you have the arrogance, and on the other you have the scared little person who thinks they can't measure up and somebody is going to find out they are a fraud. In short - there comes the mental illness - the NPDs, the BPDs...

I once said that it's OK for a kid to feel "lower than dirt on a sow's belly" and almost got crucified for it. LOL! Of course, you can't leave them down there, but they have to learn to take responsibility for their own actions and fix what can be fixed, admit they are wrong, apologize. Nobody today wants to own their mistakes, preferring to pass the buck, and that stunts them in the long run.

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Pride as well..

It's the reason why people won't learn, won't change, won't forgive and they remain frustrated, angry, bitter, ignorant, unhappy..

Humility is powerful

It makes sense as a panacea for mental illness

I know it's true for depression

Depressed people have turned inward, which explains why many want to lay down and die.. no greater cause.. no greater connections of love with others..

Love and humility, the best natural cures

My source is from God, the wellspring
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Yes, this!
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I can see this, also maybe judgmentalness
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Arrogance and judgmentalism are Karen-Gestapo liberalism to the 10th degree.

A lack of honesty, ethics and empathy - weakness in all three of those - breeds a particularly nasty form of arrogance. A lot of obnoxious traits in general.
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Self importance is a synonym for arrogance.

So what is some practical advice to reduce self importance?

Having a 'working with others' mentality rather than a 'power over others' mentality.
 Quoting: All My Hemispheres


Well, I'm the most important guy in any room, so....
 Quoting: Where Eagles Dare


only when i'm not there.... :P
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you avoid feeling your own feelings
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Call it arrogance. It can also be fear of looking inside and figuring out why you're the way you are. It's the most painful process and easier to deny yourself.

Society is very sick. Most are too arrogant to realize how affected we have been, since childhood
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"pride commeth before a fall"
the gods on olympus hated pride the most, many myths are about putting the prideful back in their place.
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can't eat silver
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Colloidal silver
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Correction: shouldnt eat silver

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"Could it be that we are our own worst enemy..."

Yes. Pride, ego, and greed make us the worst kind of person

when we have no balance and respect for life, ours and

others. That is our problem that brings us down---

every time!

All you have to do is look at 'real history' and you realize

this. The smartest men that founded this Nation---

had a strong belief in God.

Therefore, they understood where there strengths ended

and a spiritual understanding was necessary to sustain a

hard life.

I was making my life hard because of these bad decisions.

When I let my spiritual life lead, and let God be my guide,

my needs were met. My life was more manageable.

Not easier by any means. Just more manageable.
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I agree!
I was depressed 20 years ago because I was an introvert
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How about a shrink wanted to judge every one in their office as nuts, so people reacted with arrogance.
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Self importance is a synonym for arrogance.

So what is some practical advice to reduce self importance?

Having a 'working with others' mentality rather than a 'power over others' mentality.
 Quoting: All My Hemispheres


Honestly

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Ever hear of a "Project Manager"?

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Re: Mental Health Issues Silver Bullet? Are You Arrogant?
Self importance is a synonym for arrogance.

So what is some practical advice to reduce self importance?

Having a 'working with others' mentality rather than a 'power over others' mentality.
 Quoting: All My Hemispheres


Well, I'm the most important guy in any room, so....
 Quoting: Where Eagles Dare


only when i'm not there.... :P
 Quoting: CitizenPerth


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Self importance is a synonym for arrogance.

So what is some practical advice to reduce self importance?

Having a 'working with others' mentality rather than a 'power over others' mentality.
 Quoting: All My Hemispheres


Arrogance and Pride are the original sin.

Lucifer was destroyed because of this.

God cannot work with a proud heart.

Only when a person admits their faults and weaknesses can God begin to turn them back to the truth.

A person who thinks they know everything is incapable of learning.
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I listened to nearly everything Jordan Peterson put online.

Out of the hundreds of hours of lectures, this is the most valuable thing I heard him say.

As a clinical psychologist, Dr. Peterson would listen to and engage a person's problems for weeks and months and years. When he finally got to deepest cause, his clients had one thing in common:

arrogance.

The deepest cause of their problems was arrogance. He said this was true for nearly all his patients.

Arrogance had grown inside them and prevented them from connecting with others and prevented them from connecting with the deepest parts of themselves.

Arrogance had strangled them from growth and meaning.

I still am floored by the implications this. Could it be that we are our own worst enemy and there really is a simple (but not easy) solution to many problems?

Is humility the silver bullet for mental health issues?
 Quoting: All My Hemispheres


Interesting! I had just been discussing with a friend how that lack of self confidence can lead to substituting with over enflated ego. This finding is definitely related.

Last Edited by Rev Woo-Woo on 03/18/2021 09:38 PM
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Very insightful. Thanks OP
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Re: Mental Health Issues Silver Bullet? Are You Arrogant?
Self importance is a synonym for arrogance.

So what is some practical advice to reduce self importance?

Having a 'working with others' mentality rather than a 'power over others' mentality.
 Quoting: All My Hemispheres


Honestly

Get to know JESUS
 Quoting: Bodiless


^ this

It's a spiritual problem, not just mental/emotional

Interesting that all the major religions emphasize ridding oneself of the ego as a critical part of walking the path
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Self importance is a synonym for arrogance.

So what is some practical advice to reduce self importance?

Having a 'working with others' mentality rather than a 'power over others' mentality.
 Quoting: All My Hemispheres


This sounds like commie propaganda bullshit





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