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tkwasny User ID: 77839169 ![]() 03/20/2021 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like you answered your own question. Go OEM - take the hit but less hours involved. Quoting: PopyyPantz Brother-in-law is ASE shop owner and certified (Ex-NASCAR owner/driver) and he ALWAYS only uses OEM or doesn't take the job. Matches VIN up and factory direct for anything drive train, engine or any moving part. |
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Swamprat User ID: 80131978 ![]() 03/20/2021 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've worked on my cars since high school and never have I had an issue like this where I can't seem to resolve it. Quoting: Seabass69 I'm literally on the 3rd hub assembly (pre-pressed w/bearings) and this truck will not accept them. First two were Dorman's, 2nd was Carquest. Typically I'd go OEM but the Dorman's actually looked like a direct OE fit so I don't see how that can bee the problem. Proper torque applied to all nuts and bolts with a good torque wrench. Axle nut was torqued to 175. First installation was on tight with no wobble, but made a lot of grinding noise and you could tell the bearings weren't spinning freely. I replaced it, and when it removed it you could see the bearings overheated and shot their grease out so it must have been bound in there pretty good. Second hub assembly+bearings, slightly more wobble than first time but still fairly tight feeling but the grinding howling noise was bad. THIRD time, I get it out of town and up to 60mph and the wheel starts violently wobbling and shaking and feeling like it was going to go flying off. It had a horrible burning smell, possibly stuck brakes not entirely sure, and definitely felt unsafe to drive. WTF is going on here? Everything was taken apart and reassembled as per the Dorman and Carquest manuals with proper torque. Maybe that axle nut torque is too high. If the pressure is directly on the bearing... If that is a castellated nut with a cotter key, I guarantee it is over torqued. Last Edited by Swamprat on 03/20/2021 11:15 PM We aren't cut out to be socialists.We are the people who couldn't be constrained by Europe. We are the malcontents, idealists, speculators, dreamers, inventors, debtors and criminals who would not be chained. We don't play well with others, we are brash, outlandish and cunning. let us do what we do best; let us be Americans. |
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Swamprat User ID: 80131978 ![]() 03/20/2021 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this thread is bs, toyotas run forever and don't have multiple hub assemblies go bad. Quoting: NunyaBizz Correct. He is just having trouble on the one side. We aren't cut out to be socialists.We are the people who couldn't be constrained by Europe. We are the malcontents, idealists, speculators, dreamers, inventors, debtors and criminals who would not be chained. We don't play well with others, we are brash, outlandish and cunning. let us do what we do best; let us be Americans. |
PoliceYourOwn User ID: 80151960 ![]() 03/20/2021 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How 'bout start by telling us what in hell you're working on instead of a story. Last Edited by PoliceYourOwn on 03/20/2021 11:34 PM PoliceYourOwn |
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Seabass69 (OP) User ID: 73568822 ![]() 03/21/2021 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some Toyota's changed mid-year...You may want to see where it was manufactured and the production date... Quoting: BRIEF You talking torque specs may have been updated or the part itself (hub assembly) may have a newer model? Good points if so. I do believe the axle nut torque spec is already updated and dropped from 214ft/lb or so so they must have been having issues at the spec and updated it already but I will re-verify. The Ladies Man |
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Seabass69 (OP) User ID: 73568822 ![]() 03/21/2021 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How 'bout start by telling us what in hell you're working on instead of a story. Quoting: PoliceYourOwn 2006 4Runner Limited. Has the full time AWD. Last Edited by _Lumberghini_ on 03/21/2021 10:08 AM The Ladies Man |
WhiskeyBunker User ID: 80005771 ![]() 03/21/2021 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like a quality control issue with the parts. This pandemic has messed up lots of things. I just recently went through 4 starters in my vehicle. The first three were all defective. 2 Bosch Remans (in the United States), 1 AutoZone Duralast New (China) and the last is a AutoZone Duralast Reman (China) and that is working well for three weeks. It was a nightmare. Major quality control issues now due to Covid restrictions crap. |
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Seabass69 (OP) User ID: 73568822 ![]() 03/21/2021 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you check ball joints and control arms? 1) Probably. The bearing for sure is a goner and maybe the axle overheated too 2) Replaced all of those last year (albeit with non-OEM parts lol) and should be ok. Will double check though. The Ladies Man |
BRIEF User ID: 79662918 ![]() 03/21/2021 10:25 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you are on to something...3 smokey and melted hub assemblies later I'd imagine something else could've been cooked too. If the caliper is sticking to the rotor, it would generally pull to that side...I assumed you are not having "pulling" issues... Last Edited by BRIEF on 03/21/2021 10:26 AM I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. ![]() |
Seabass69 (OP) User ID: 73568822 ![]() 03/21/2021 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've worked on my cars since high school and never have I had an issue like this where I can't seem to resolve it. Quoting: Seabass69 I'm literally on the 3rd hub assembly (pre-pressed w/bearings) and this truck will not accept them. First two were Dorman's, 2nd was Carquest. Typically I'd go OEM but the Dorman's actually looked like a direct OE fit so I don't see how that can bee the problem. Proper torque applied to all nuts and bolts with a good torque wrench. Axle nut was torqued to 175. First installation was on tight with no wobble, but made a lot of grinding noise and you could tell the bearings weren't spinning freely. I replaced it, and when it removed it you could see the bearings overheated and shot their grease out so it must have been bound in there pretty good. Second hub assembly+bearings, slightly more wobble than first time but still fairly tight feeling but the grinding howling noise was bad. THIRD time, I get it out of town and up to 60mph and the wheel starts violently wobbling and shaking and feeling like it was going to go flying off. It had a horrible burning smell, possibly stuck brakes not entirely sure, and definitely felt unsafe to drive. WTF is going on here? Everything was taken apart and reassembled as per the Dorman and Carquest manuals with proper torque. Maybe that axle nut torque is too high. If the pressure is directly on the bearing... If that is a castellated nut with a cotter key, I guarantee it is over torqued. It does have the castellated nut with cotter pin and I had the same thoughts but the manuals all say 173ft/lb so I thought she'd be good at 175 but then again, it keeps failing. The Ladies Man |
Seabass69 (OP) User ID: 73568822 ![]() 03/21/2021 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you are on to something...3 smokey and melted hub assemblies later I'd imagine something else could've been cooked too. If the caliper is sticking to the rotor, it would generally pull to that side...I assumed you are not having "pulling" issues... Now that you mention it, the truck was pulling to the left a bit and when I hit the brakes it pulled a lot harder to the left. Would the caliper be sticking to the rotor because the rotor got warped from heat or? The Ladies Man |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77640440 ![]() 03/21/2021 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bearing relies on the clamping force of the CV axle shaft to keep the unit assembled. If the CV axle is stretched or damaged, then the nut may torque to spec, but the proper clamp load isn't applied to the bearing races and it'll destroy itself in short order. |
Seabass69 (OP) User ID: 73568822 ![]() 03/21/2021 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it a unitized hub and bearing? Quoting: CosmicFire The bearing relies on the clamping force of the CV axle shaft to keep the unit assembled. If the CV axle is stretched or damaged, then the nut may torque to spec, but the proper clamp load isn't applied to the bearing races and it'll destroy itself in short order. I believe it is. Good info. So in that scenario I'd be looking at replacing the CV axle and then reinstalling new hub assembly, being careful to not over torque the axle nut? The Ladies Man |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77640440 ![]() 03/21/2021 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it a unitized hub and bearing? Quoting: CosmicFire The bearing relies on the clamping force of the CV axle shaft to keep the unit assembled. If the CV axle is stretched or damaged, then the nut may torque to spec, but the proper clamp load isn't applied to the bearing races and it'll destroy itself in short order. I believe it is. Good info. So in that scenario I'd be looking at replacing the CV axle and then reinstalling new hub assembly, being careful to not over torque the axle nut? Yep. Unless you can identify why it isn't clamping the unit. There could be a sleeve or washer missing. I'd look for a youtube vid and watch close. What year and model Toyota? |
Swamprat User ID: 80131978 ![]() 03/21/2021 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Regarding BRIEF'S post, you may have air in the brake line. We aren't cut out to be socialists.We are the people who couldn't be constrained by Europe. We are the malcontents, idealists, speculators, dreamers, inventors, debtors and criminals who would not be chained. We don't play well with others, we are brash, outlandish and cunning. let us do what we do best; let us be Americans. |
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BRIEF User ID: 79662918 ![]() 03/22/2021 05:51 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you are on to something...3 smokey and melted hub assemblies later I'd imagine something else could've been cooked too. If the caliper is sticking to the rotor, it would generally pull to that side...I assumed you are not having "pulling" issues... Now that you mention it, the truck was pulling to the left a bit and when I hit the brakes it pulled a lot harder to the left. Would the caliper be sticking to the rotor because the rotor got warped from heat or? Yeah, the excess heat is cooking your bearings...Fix your brakes... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. ![]() |