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ZMA is just Zinc and Magnesium, just has a weird side effect for some
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Also i know what cause it..
at least ON MY case...

it is 100% related to sleep hours..
or oversleep...if i oversleep
i can cause 3 or 4 sleep paralysis
in a day..

i m able to sleep as much as i want
for some reason but i do pay the
sleep paralysis price..specially if i join it with radically change sleep hours..

lets say i dont sleep from 00:00
and i go to take a nap from 14:00 foward
i m goin to take up..soon as 15:00
i can repeat as much as i want
but i wont be able to sleep more than 1 hour.. and for every time i do i will pay with sleep paralysis
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When I fast 48-72 hours I have very lucid dreams, so much I prefer to dream than awake to the real world.
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Also when i was younger..
i had like 30 differents dreams scenarios
in with a gust of wind insanely strong
suddenly push me back , hard enough
to make me fly of the ground.. hurricane
kind of wind,.. very strange
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What makes dreaming so much fun is the realism of the dream experience. When we are in a dream, it can appear as real as our waking life but without the constraints of physical rules as dreaming isn't a physical system rather it's entirely cognitive where the mind is rendering out a virtual reality for us to have 'what if' scenarios. And yes we can fly, teleport, walk through walls, simulate anything limited by our imagination and skill while in this medium of self-expression.

For those who develop and participate in their 3-5 dreams, they get to have a second-life experience with different perspectives and experiences you'll never have while awake because you are dreamer. The architect of your own dream experiences.
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Just wanted to toss this out here in case someone is more familiar with this kind of thing:

Last year I had a powerful dream eerily similar to what happened in Lebanon with the Beirut blast - 2 days before it happened.

First dream I've ever had like that, where there was a massive explosion, or one that was so vivid and seemingly significant, even before the event came to pass.

It could just be a strange coincidence, but I don't personally believe it was.

Any thoughts on how something like that might occur?
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Émile Boirac coined the term Deja Vu (French for Already Seen) in the late 1800s but if you read his letters he was talking about the link to this deja expeirence and past dreams. Had he coined the term Deja Reve (French for Already Dreamed) we'd probably have more realization of the source of deja expeirences and their relationship to past dream expeirences.

Having Deja reve is not uncommon, a lot of people will link the memory and familiarity of a deja experience to something they dreamed of days, weeks, months and even years in the past. Although this is rejected currently by most skeptical thinkers that doesn't negate that it's a common theme in the dream expeirence going back to the written record and influences emerge in every religion, culture and era where precognitive dreaming is a part of the human expeirence. Aristotle debated it in 350BC in his paper, "On Prophesizing in dreams" [link to classics.mit.edu]

There are lots of studies on Rats and the hippocampal replay of dreaming where they had hooked rats up to electrodes in the brain (neural link research also) and found that they replayed the mazes they walked through when place/time cells in the hippocampus during the day produced patterns that replayed during the dream indicating to the researchers the rats were replaying their walking through the maze. In this research however they discovered the rats had patterns of mazes they didn't yet run replaying in their dreams which later matched new mazes setup by the researchers.

[link to www.sci-news.com]

No one said the memory-replay is linear when it comes to dreaming ;)
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ZMA is just Zinc and Magnesium, just has a weird side effect for some
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Thanks, I didn't know. I do know that foods and vitamins for dreaming is a better way to go. For example the B3/B6 and tryptophan (found in chicken/beans/lentils) help promote niacin and improve dreaming.

Also anything that boosts cognition like Omega3 fats and exercise (20 minutes of jogging promotes blood flow to the brain and improves cognition) also benefits dreaming because the brain repurposes itself for dreaming. Healthy brain, healthy dreams.
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Also i know what cause it..
at least ON MY case...

it is 100% related to sleep hours..
or oversleep...if i oversleep
i can cause 3 or 4 sleep paralysis
in a day..

i m able to sleep as much as i want
for some reason but i do pay the
sleep paralysis price..specially if i join it with radically change sleep hours..

lets say i dont sleep from 00:00
and i go to take a nap from 14:00 foward
i m goin to take up..soon as 15:00
i can repeat as much as i want
but i wont be able to sleep more than 1 hour.. and for every time i do i will pay with sleep paralysis
 Quoting: MRF


I used SPI or sleep-paralysis induction for self-aware dreaming in my initial learning curve because it worked and it naturally occurred when trying to stay aware during the process of falling asleep. You get used to it and the fear which is the only barrier because of the intensity of mind-awake/body-asleep goes away once you realize it's normal and natural, also expected if taking this approach to dreaming.

However, I learned to bypass it entirely with a different technique that I call sensory-replay construction which lets me build up the dream during the hypnagogic transition into the desired dream outcome. By having my attention on the actual emerging dream content and not my body I found myself moving into the dream content as awareness unaware of the body as it naturally fell asleep and never had sleep-paralysis since switching to it.

Plus it produced all my best artistic dreams so win win for me.
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ZMA is just Zinc and Magnesium, just has a weird side effect for some
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Thanks, I didn't know. I do know that foods and vitamins for dreaming is a better way to go. For example the B3/B6 and tryptophan (found in chicken/beans/lentils) help promote niacin and improve dreaming.

Also anything that boosts cognition like Omega3 fats and exercise (20 minutes of jogging promotes blood flow to the brain and improves cognition) also benefits dreaming because the brain repurposes itself for dreaming. Healthy brain, healthy dreams.
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Its actually a supplement for weightlifters to get better sleep, extreme lucid dreams are just a side effect for some
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No one said the memory-replay is linear when it comes to dreaming ;)
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This!
Unless...

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When I fast 48-72 hours I have very lucid dreams, so much I prefer to dream than awake to the real world.
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Self-aware dreaming is awesome. I do BTL or better-than-life dreaming for obvious reasons. No need to self-explain or self-justify that having a rich dream second-life that can be equal too or greater than your waking life as a bad thing. It's what keeps me always engaged in my dream participation since starting in 1987.

The bounty of endless amazing experiences is noted.
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ZMA is just Zinc and Magnesium, just has a weird side effect for some
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Thanks, I didn't know. I do know that foods and vitamins for dreaming is a better way to go. For example the B3/B6 and tryptophan (found in chicken/beans/lentils) help promote niacin and improve dreaming.

Also anything that boosts cognition like Omega3 fats and exercise (20 minutes of jogging promotes blood flow to the brain and improves cognition) also benefits dreaming because the brain repurposes itself for dreaming. Healthy brain, healthy dreams.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Its actually a supplement for weightlifters to get better sleep, extreme lucid dreams are just a side effect for some
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That's awesome and since it's natural I'm going to look into it more because I always encourage natural foods, diet and exercise to promote healthy cognition for both real-life and dream life. Greatly appreciated.
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I can go from having 'float n fly' dreams, where I'm anywhere from floating through my hallway to jumping higher and higher until I fly, to nightmares.

Such as, I helped hide the body someone else killed, while wondering throughout the dream if I had anything to do with the murder. I don't really watch a lot of whodunnits, but I hate feeling like I was part of some horrible crime. Or, it's an all out demon dream and it's attacking either me or a loved one. I never see the damn thing, I just 'know' it's there and it's wreaking havoc. And that feeling is the WORST.

I figure it must be feeling a sense of guilt in my waking life, but who doesn't have that from time to time. I just wish I could turn off the guilts, and have more of the high flying type!
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Also when i was younger..
i had like 30 differents dreams scenarios
in with a gust of wind insanely strong
suddenly push me back , hard enough
to make me fly of the ground.. hurricane
kind of wind,.. very strange
 Quoting: MRF


What makes dreaming so much fun is the realism of the dream experience. When we are in a dream, it can appear as real as our waking life but without the constraints of physical rules as dreaming isn't a physical system rather it's entirely cognitive where the mind is rendering out a virtual reality for us to have 'what if' scenarios. And yes we can fly, teleport, walk through walls, simulate anything limited by our imagination and skill while in this medium of self-expression.

For those who develop and participate in their 3-5 dreams, they get to have a second-life experience with different perspectives and experiences you'll never have while awake because you are dreamer. The architect of your own dream experiences.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Mine were always future-tense. For example, in my earlier post about the store robbery... I could look forward in time. Where the safe "would" be. What the code "would" be. Not where/what it presently was. And I could only go so far forward. 5-7 days max. Another example, I wanted to "look in" on a girl I liked. Well I couldn't look in the present-tense. It'd be a day or more later & I could recall exactly what she'd wear, where she'd be & what she was doing. I proved this to multiple people. That's about the time I started getting cocky with it.
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Yes, practice, nutrition and a 2nd sleep stage in the early morning. I wake about 3, eat some protein, sip some B vitamins from a redbull and go back to sleep. Lucid, colorful, compassionate, psychic, some horror but quit that thru prayer. I could draw a place, a face and a room then a couple of weeks later it would be splashed across the news in a tragedy. My soul hurt from those so I prayed for those to quit. They quit.

Good luck OP. Remember to move around, look at your hands, and ask questions in your dreams.
Don't dismiss your own experience to allow other people’s perceptions.
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I can go from having 'float n fly' dreams, where I'm anywhere from floating through my hallway to jumping higher and higher until I fly, to nightmares.

Such as, I helped hide the body someone else killed, while wondering throughout the dream if I had anything to do with the murder. I don't really watch a lot of whodunnits, but I hate feeling like I was part of some horrible crime. Or, it's an all out demon dream and it's attacking either me or a loved one. I never see the damn thing, I just 'know' it's there and it's wreaking havoc. And that feeling is the WORST.

I figure it must be feeling a sense of guilt in my waking life, but who doesn't have that from time to time. I just wish I could turn off the guilts, and have more of the high flying type!
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I totally understand. When addressing the dream experience the neurological development of memory, perception and self-awareness is done with repeat participation in our 3-5 naturally occurring dreams.

The psychological side of the dream experience is what Jung and Frued covered because they lacked the fMRI research we have today to see how the brain develops neurologically with dreaming.

The psychoanalytical influence on dream culture is dominated right now due to those old early sciences. What we do gain from it is the nature of our dreams to have a psychological component where we have fears in our dream-replay that come from waking life influences.

For many the psychological inhibitors derived from beliefs, misconceptions and fears of the dream experience makes them shut dreaming down entirely. Which is a shame because when these psychological traits are released and resolved you get to have more exploratory and adventurous dreams without the negative influences but I call that house-cleaning.

If we don't house-clean we end up dreaming in the wildness of our subconscious mind and that tends to produce the dreams we don't want. But we are having them because of influences in our waking life.

I do active dream programming and can dream anything I want as a result. Naturally we develop mindfullness because it becomes so self-evident that waking world influences are impacting our subconscious dream-replay so one learns to filter out the negative shit ie... garbage in/garbage out with dreaming turning one's attention to more positive and rewarding influences making the dream experience what you want it to be as a dream artist.

I like to think we all want to have awesome dream experiences from time to time and learning to take in positive influences and filtering out negative ones is just self-evident for seasoned dreamers.

A classic example is watch a horror movie may invoke nightmares as the subconscious mind is going to replay that influence to make sense of the experience. This is why quite often if you like horror movies and ask a friend to watch one with you they may say no, it will give me nightmares. We intrinsically know things here influence dream content so the obvious choice is choosing what to dream based on these influences and changing the influences to something you want to experience. Maybe a vacation from travel videos, or a sci-fi adventure from watching a fun sci-fi movie. Lot's of ways to influence fun dream content knowing it replays in our dreams.

That is an area I really hone in on as an active dream programmer because I love fantasy, sci-fi, comedies and like seeing that paint my dream content from time to time for a fun adventure.
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Also i know what cause it..
at least ON MY case...

it is 100% related to sleep hours..
or oversleep...if i oversleep
i can cause 3 or 4 sleep paralysis
in a day..

i m able to sleep as much as i want
for some reason but i do pay the
sleep paralysis price..specially if i join it with radically change sleep hours..

lets say i dont sleep from 00:00
and i go to take a nap from 14:00 foward
i m goin to take up..soon as 15:00
i can repeat as much as i want
but i wont be able to sleep more than 1 hour.. and for every time i do i will pay with sleep paralysis
 Quoting: MRF


I used SPI or sleep-paralysis induction for self-aware dreaming in my initial learning curve because it worked and it naturally occurred when trying to stay aware during the process of falling asleep. You get used to it and the fear which is the only barrier because of the intensity of mind-awake/body-asleep goes away once you realize it's normal and natural, also expected if taking this approach to dreaming.

However, I learned to bypass it entirely with a different technique that I call sensory-replay construction which lets me build up the dream during the hypnagogic transition into the desired dream outcome. By having my attention on the actual emerging dream content and not my body I found myself moving into the dream content as awareness unaware of the body as it naturally fell asleep and never had sleep-paralysis since switching to it.

Plus it produced all my best artistic dreams so win win for me.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


I cant say i was able to reach Lucid dream or a total control of it.. except for ddcide to wake up In the dream and then do it for real..thats the best control i had... i remember just once.. just one time i dream( or i belief it was a dream , i was fliying trough my house and i see myself sleep.. once i aproach myself i wake uo)
that happen just once..

i heard sleep paralisis can be the jump.off point to other things, sadly i Do try to wait.. or even keep waiting inside my own paralisis to something to happen..

i had such control over sp.. that when i was younger i was able to simply and calmly choose between the fast motion option or the waving head mode to broke out of it...

i do try to help those who suffer it and becomes super scared of it.. most of them . hate it and doesnt want to suffer more than once in their life

as for the people who claims to see demons
and shadows i cant comment on dat..
it is something never happened to me
the only time i barely open one eye
it was just my daam wall...

the feel is like some magnetic force
keep me down to my bed.. but i never ever related it to something paranormal
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Also when i was younger..
i had like 30 differents dreams scenarios
in with a gust of wind insanely strong
suddenly push me back , hard enough
to make me fly of the ground.. hurricane
kind of wind,.. very strange
 Quoting: MRF


What makes dreaming so much fun is the realism of the dream experience. When we are in a dream, it can appear as real as our waking life but without the constraints of physical rules as dreaming isn't a physical system rather it's entirely cognitive where the mind is rendering out a virtual reality for us to have 'what if' scenarios. And yes we can fly, teleport, walk through walls, simulate anything limited by our imagination and skill while in this medium of self-expression.

For those who develop and participate in their 3-5 dreams, they get to have a second-life experience with different perspectives and experiences you'll never have while awake because you are dreamer. The architect of your own dream experiences.
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Mine were always future-tense. For example, in my earlier post about the store robbery... I could look forward in time. Where the safe "would" be. What the code "would" be. Not where/what it presently was. And I could only go so far forward. 5-7 days max. Another example, I wanted to "look in" on a girl I liked. Well I couldn't look in the present-tense. It'd be a day or more later & I could recall exactly what she'd wear, where she'd be & what she was doing. I proved this to multiple people. That's about the time I started getting cocky with it.
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Thats insanely crazy, no wonder you try to use it that way... your mind was able to project himself properly to a real world location in a proper time and space

Mines never messed or interact with reality in such a way
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Mine were always future-tense. For example, in my earlier post about the store robbery... I could look forward in time. Where the safe "would" be. What the code "would" be. Not where/what it presently was. And I could only go so far forward. 5-7 days max. Another example, I wanted to "look in" on a girl I liked. Well I couldn't look in the present-tense. It'd be a day or more later & I could recall exactly what she'd wear, where she'd be & what she was doing. I proved this to multiple people. That's about the time I started getting cocky with it.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


That area of dreaming often occurs in DELTA or NREM sleep cycles hence why many don't have it surface. Most assumptions about dreaming is we only do it in REM which is false, research into all stages of dreaming REM/NREM1-4 show we dream and yes people who are more developed for dreaming can remember dreams in all the REM cycles.

As to the science of future-tense dreaming goes is limited to the usual psychic tropes rather than a scientific model regarding the nature of time and our entanglement with it.

To this date, science really has missed this natural part of cognition due to the cultural biases adapted to mysticism, the occult et al however myself and others I know (physicists like Dr. Fred Allan Wolf, Tom Campbell) and dream researchers like Robert Wagonner, Dr. Art Funkhouser, Dr. Vernon Neppe and Dr. Ed Kellog to name a few) know there is this aspect exhibiting in our dream content.

In current science, we know that information can flow from the future to the past with retrocausality experiments. And rats show this anomaly with dream-replay of future maze patterns. Among all the precognitive dream studies spanning the last 100 years which builds a big body of 'ancedotal' evidence and verified examples for those willing to accept the research not the biases.

It's another area of the dream experience that emerges naturally for many people but very neglected and debated as evident from Aristotle's paper in 350BCE due to misconceptions or disbelief that such a thing occurs in our dream experience.

My view is once you have enough of it, it's not an issue of belief rather a self-edified known through direct experiences over time validating the veridical evidence needed to bridge into this other perspective offered in a deeper layer of dreams and their relationship with reality.
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Just wanted to toss this out here in case someone is more familiar with this kind of thing:

Last year I had a powerful dream eerily similar to what happened in Lebanon with the Beirut blast - 2 days before it happened.

First dream I've ever had like that, where there was a massive explosion, or one that was so vivid and seemingly significant, even before the event came to pass.

It could just be a strange coincidence, but I don't personally believe it was.

Any thoughts on how something like that might occur?
 Quoting: Teioh


Émile Boirac coined the term Deja Vu (French for Already Seen) in the late 1800s but if you read his letters he was talking about the link to this deja expeirence and past dreams. Had he coined the term Deja Reve (French for Already Dreamed) we'd probably have more realization of the source of deja expeirences and their relationship to past dream expeirences.

Having Deja reve is not uncommon, a lot of people will link the memory and familiarity of a deja experience to something they dreamed of days, weeks, months and even years in the past. Although this is rejected currently by most skeptical thinkers that doesn't negate that it's a common theme in the dream expeirence going back to the written record and influences emerge in every religion, culture and era where precognitive dreaming is a part of the human expeirence. Aristotle debated it in 350BC in his paper, "On Prophesizing in dreams" [link to classics.mit.edu]

There are lots of studies on Rats and the hippocampal replay of dreaming where they had hooked rats up to electrodes in the brain (neural link research also) and found that they replayed the mazes they walked through when place/time cells in the hippocampus during the day produced patterns that replayed during the dream indicating to the researchers the rats were replaying their walking through the maze. In this research however they discovered the rats had patterns of mazes they didn't yet run replaying in their dreams which later matched new mazes setup by the researchers.

[link to www.sci-news.com]

No one said the memory-replay is linear when it comes to dreaming ;)
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Woah. Great answer! hf

Thanks for taking the time to share that

I've decided to try out your free course, doing the first assignment tonight :)
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Guayusa is a Mayan herb used in tea that was used to help improve night vision for hunters.

This tea helps connect the dreamer to the awareness of dreams as well.

:-)
Unless...

"The truth shall set you free, but first it will piss you off."

Res ipsa loquitur
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I cant say i was able to reach Lucid dream or a total control of it.. except for ddcide to wake up In the dream and then do it for real..thats the best control i had... i remember just once.. just one time i dream( or i belief it was a dream , i was fliying trough my house and i see myself sleep.. once i aproach myself i wake uo)
that happen just once..

i heard sleep paralisis can be the jump.off point to other things, sadly i Do try to wait.. or even keep waiting inside my own paralisis to something to happen..

i had such control over sp.. that when i was younger i was able to simply and calmly choose between the fast motion option or the waving head mode to broke out of it...

i do try to help those who suffer it and becomes super scared of it.. most of them . hate it and doesnt want to suffer more than once in their life

as for the people who claims to see demons
and shadows i cant comment on dat..
it is something never happened to me
the only time i barely open one eye
it was just my daam wall...

the feel is like some magnetic force
keep me down to my bed.. but i never ever related it to something paranormal
 Quoting: MRF


It's common for newbies who have sleep-paralysis to experience the 'old-hag' or shadow-people effect. This is actually a fear response manifesting in the dream-replay like a knee-jerk reaction and quite often people who have belief in demons and the occult will have dream-replay that invokes those beliefs. Because dreams are our beliefs/thoughts in reflection during sleep. They often get spooked by their own imaginations and cease participation due to fear.

In our waking life we look into the mirror and see our body reflecting, but when we sleep our dreams reflect our mind.

In an SP dream for a beginner, it also will reflect the stunted dream development that I talk about so our perception can be weak, muddy, noisy. Our cognition also can reflect deficiencies in our ability to think, reason, and act on the current focus-state effectively because aspects of our mind are in various stages of inactivity during that process.

As we develop, this all clears up so you can sleep, enter SP and go into a fully sensory-rich self-aware dream experience that you are influencing to your heart's intent. That is where dreaming gets to be really fun and creative 'run-time' self-expressions for the dream artist within you.
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so what cayce do was true...

mind is not bound for time and space
and it can be properly trained as a way
to peek trough Any time and any space
IN THE real world..past present future

i think what you had it was similar to dat
but compared to cayce control you r still far away... if what you say is true
and you were able to see where it will be
an object of the real world in the future..

i think it would be so amazing if you manage to get that ability back

my stuff is just totally related to my own dream.. and about the SP itself.. is nowhere near of dat
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Yes, practice, nutrition and a 2nd sleep stage in the early morning. I wake about 3, eat some protein, sip some B vitamins from a redbull and go back to sleep. Lucid, colorful, compassionate, psychic, some horror but quit that thru prayer. I could draw a place, a face and a room then a couple of weeks later it would be splashed across the news in a tragedy. My soul hurt from those so I prayed for those to quit. They quit.

Good luck OP. Remember to move around, look at your hands, and ask questions in your dreams.
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Absolutely, dreaming is an active skill and requires participation to really gain from it. It should be natural because it occurs naturally for every living organism that dreams so just having a dream plan, a dream routine and knowing how to train the skill is how we gain leverage on our dream quality.

The second-sleep cycle known as 'Napping' or wake-back-to-bed was extensively studied by Dr. Stephan LaBerge and the Lucidity Insititute showing people who slept 4-6 hours in the first sleep cycle, then waking up getting out of bed for 30-60 minutes before returning for the second sleep cycle can improve their chance of lucidity by 10x. I am a WBTB lucid dreamer as the first-sleep cycle is actually very difficult to achieve lucidity regularly due to the need of our brain to do maintenance during that time but that said you can achieve lucidity in the first-sleep cycle but using MILD vs WILD is the better strategy imo.
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Woah. Great answer! hf

Thanks for taking the time to share that

I've decided to try out your free course, doing the first assignment tonight :)
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Great, I hope you like the course it took me 24 years to develop it from my first set of courses in 1998. A lot more science and knowledge packed into it coupled by 34 years of being an active dreamer nearly every night.
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A little backstory...

Around the age of 16 I had the ability to lucid dream. I don't know all the technical words so I'll just explain it in simple terms. I could think of a subject/place/person, etc before going to sleep & then while asleep with 100% accuracy literally every single time I could tell you where a person was, what they were wearing, what they were doing, what they were going to do etc. I got a little cocky with this talent & started abusing it for personal gain. Long story short, the law got involved & I lost the ability seemingly overnight.

So here's my question: Can I regain this skill or did I f*ck that all up karma-wise? Previously I had the ability without aids such as background noises or whatever people use nowadays to enter that state of mind. I've sworn I'll never abuse that talent again (and I believe talents like this come from God) but I kinda feel like I had my chance & I abused it so He took it from me.

I'd like to hear what the experts in this field have to say about my query. Can I get it back? If so, how?
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You can get it back, You just have to think about it every single day, a lot.
It has to be in your mind. In your thoughts during the day and they will seep into your thoughts at night. Has nothing to do with karma it’s just an ability the brain provides.
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one more thing i didnt mentioned...
when i just decided to wake up..

it is trough a hard blinking..
100% SIMILAR to Bewitched..

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so what cayce do was true...

mind is not bound for time and space
and it can be properly trained as a way
to peek trough Any time and any space
IN THE real world..past present future

i think what you had it was similar to dat
but compared to cayce control you r still far away... if what you say is true
and you were able to see where it will be
an object of the real world in the future..

i think it would be so amazing if you manage to get that ability back

my stuff is just totally related to my own dream.. and about the SP itself.. is nowhere near of dat
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I was definitely getting better with it as time went on. I would challenge people to give me any subject, any person & I could tell them whatever they wanted to know but they had to be specific beforehand. Ex. If you wanted to know how many customers I'd have in 3 days I could tell you. If you wanted to know what they'd be wearing I could tell you. What they discussed, etc. but in each case I had to have the foreknowledge of what I'm seeking otherwise it was like watching the show "Lost" on tv mid season without knowing what the show was about. In other words, they wouldn't make much sense. They'd be accurate but no purpose. And then one day, after abusing it more-so than usual, boom, gone. I really, REALLY miss being able to do that.
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A little backstory...

Around the age of 16 I had the ability to lucid dream. I don't know all the technical words so I'll just explain it in simple terms. I could think of a subject/place/person, etc before going to sleep & then while asleep with 100% accuracy literally every single time I could tell you where a person was, what they were wearing, what they were doing, what they were going to do etc. I got a little cocky with this talent & started abusing it for personal gain. Long story short, the law got involved & I lost the ability seemingly overnight.

So here's my question: Can I regain this skill or did I f*ck that all up karma-wise? Previously I had the ability without aids such as background noises or whatever people use nowadays to enter that state of mind. I've sworn I'll never abuse that talent again (and I believe talents like this come from God) but I kinda feel like I had my chance & I abused it so He took it from me.

I'd like to hear what the experts in this field have to say about my query. Can I get it back? If so, how?
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Only the pure of heart have this ability and would NEVER abuse it in the way you have.

No.
You cannot get it back.

You have been weighed and found lacking.

Maybe in a few thousand more lifetimes.
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so what cayce do was true...

mind is not bound for time and space
and it can be properly trained as a way
to peek trough Any time and any space
IN THE real world..past present future

i think what you had it was similar to dat
but compared to cayce control you r still far away... if what you say is true
and you were able to see where it will be
an object of the real world in the future..

i think it would be so amazing if you manage to get that ability back

my stuff is just totally related to my own dream.. and about the SP itself.. is nowhere near of dat
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I wrote a paper on this which is on academia worth checking out.

[link to www.academia.edu (secure)]

You'd be amazed at how many people actually have this surface in their lives. Where it gets really interesting for those having the experience is when you can bridge into this specific type of dream with full self-awareness. A lucid precognitive dream is a must-have experience, especially if you change the initial dream while that opportunity is there to do so.





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