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Experts in Lucid Dreaming: A Question

 
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 Quoting: President of TABTX


You can get it back, You just have to think about it every single day, a lot.
It has to be in your mind. In your thoughts during the day and they will seep into your thoughts at night. Has nothing to do with karma it’s just an ability the brain provides.
 Quoting: Fossy


Our friend "Youaredreaming" is going to help retrain me. I'm excited to try this again. Btw LONG TIME NO SEE! I hope you've been well!
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Unfortunately in my personal opinion you are basically forever cut off from that synchronization. If it's any consolation even if you hadn't got cocky and brought down drastic ego frame-breaking corporeal punishment upon yourself that apparent power would have begun to fade away soon anyways and there are dozens of scenarios in which things could have went wayyyy worse for your sanity and your conciousness in general so just learn the lesson and don't beat yourself up about it.

Also, don't try and chase the "power" again because it won't end well for you. Lucid dreaming and astral adventures are of little objective importance and ultimately don't produce any real spiritual fruit in the long run. It's a form of self-abuse mental masturbation that does little but drain you of energy.
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A little backstory...

Around the age of 16 I had the ability to lucid dream. I don't know all the technical words so I'll just explain it in simple terms. I could think of a subject/place/person, etc before going to sleep & then while asleep with 100% accuracy literally every single time I could tell you where a person was, what they were wearing, what they were doing, what they were going to do etc. I got a little cocky with this talent & started abusing it for personal gain. Long story short, the law got involved & I lost the ability seemingly overnight.

So here's my question: Can I regain this skill or did I f*ck that all up karma-wise? Previously I had the ability without aids such as background noises or whatever people use nowadays to enter that state of mind. I've sworn I'll never abuse that talent again (and I believe talents like this come from God) but I kinda feel like I had my chance & I abused it so He took it from me.

I'd like to hear what the experts in this field have to say about my query. Can I get it back? If so, how?
 Quoting: President of TABTX


Only the pure of heart have this ability and would NEVER abuse it in the way you have.

No.
You cannot get it back.

You have been weighed and found lacking.

Maybe in a few thousand more lifetimes.
 Quoting: Triteia


Not sure if that was a troll response or not but that's actually how I felt about it. I'm still going to try regardless. Otherwise I'm left wondering, "what if...".
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A little backstory...

Around the age of 16 I had the ability to lucid dream. I don't know all the technical words so I'll just explain it in simple terms. I could think of a subject/place/person, etc before going to sleep & then while asleep with 100% accuracy literally every single time I could tell you where a person was, what they were wearing, what they were doing, what they were going to do etc. I got a little cocky with this talent & started abusing it for personal gain. Long story short, the law got involved & I lost the ability seemingly overnight.

So here's my question: Can I regain this skill or did I f*ck that all up karma-wise? Previously I had the ability without aids such as background noises or whatever people use nowadays to enter that state of mind. I've sworn I'll never abuse that talent again (and I believe talents like this come from God) but I kinda feel like I had my chance & I abused it so He took it from me.

I'd like to hear what the experts in this field have to say about my query. Can I get it back? If so, how?
 Quoting: President of TABTX


Only the pure of heart have this ability and would NEVER abuse it in the way you have.

No.
You cannot get it back.

You have been weighed and found lacking.

Maybe in a few thousand more lifetimes.
 Quoting: Triteia


That's not true. This particular part of the dreaming spectrum is always there but because our access to it during sleep takes place in the highest frequency oscillation which is usually Delta sleep or NREM3 and that is hard to remember for most, rare in fact.

As we age, we produce less dream activity and the decline in this ability is noted in age and frequency studies. It's most common with people who are still developing their brains so 25 years and younger and often presents in the teens to mid-adult.

I do agree with you that one should not abuse it and use it to learn more about your relationship with reality. I like it for the self-edifying nature it presents.

You can navigate into that focus-state while in the dream by focusing on previous memories of being there can help. Following the deja vu threads so to speak.

Why? Because you are already there always, even now but not aware while in this deep immersion flooded by your sensory input hence why getting out of that noise into a clear dream focus state makes access a little easier.

Like anything dream, we can train for it should we chose.
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Unfortunately in my personal opinion you are basically forever cut off from that synchronization. If it's any consolation even if you hadn't got cocky and brought down drastic ego frame-breaking corporeal punishment upon yourself that apparent power would have begun to fade away soon anyways and there are dozens of scenarios in which things could have went wayyyy worse for your sanity and your conciousness in general so just learn the lesson and don't beat yourself up about it.

Also, don't try and chase the "power" again because it won't end well for you. Lucid dreaming and astral adventures are of little objective importance and ultimately don't produce any real spiritual fruit in the long run. It's a form of self-abuse mental masturbation that does little but drain you of energy.
 Quoting: Zerubayah


Part of me is a bit apprehensive about trying again because let's face it, I'm human, I'm flawed & I could easily revert back to abusing it. lol, your description... "self abuse mental masturbation". That's really how this all started if you wanna know the truth. I wanted my dreams to go the way I wanted which initially was me just flying around everywhere I wanted. Once I realized I could do that I could control pretty much every detail of my dream. There were times I'd be having a "bad" dream & I'd think, "I sure could use a gun", realize I was in a dream & go, "well now I got one!". Money, same thing. And yes, even being able to control "wet" dreams since we're on the subject.
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A little backstory...

Around the age of 16 I had the ability to lucid dream. I don't know all the technical words so I'll just explain it in simple terms. I could think of a subject/place/person, etc before going to sleep & then while asleep with 100% accuracy literally every single time I could tell you where a person was, what they were wearing, what they were doing, what they were going to do etc. I got a little cocky with this talent & started abusing it for personal gain. Long story short, the law got involved & I lost the ability seemingly overnight.

So here's my question: Can I regain this skill or did I f*ck that all up karma-wise? Previously I had the ability without aids such as background noises or whatever people use nowadays to enter that state of mind. I've sworn I'll never abuse that talent again (and I believe talents like this come from God) but I kinda feel like I had my chance & I abused it so He took it from me.

I'd like to hear what the experts in this field have to say about my query. Can I get it back? If so, how?
 Quoting: President of TABTX


Only the pure of heart have this ability and would NEVER abuse it in the way you have.

No.
You cannot get it back.

You have been weighed and found lacking.

Maybe in a few thousand more lifetimes.
 Quoting: Triteia


Not sure if that was a troll response or not but that's actually how I felt about it. I'm still going to try regardless. Otherwise I'm left wondering, "what if...".
 Quoting: President of TABTX


I know you don't know me from Adam but trust me when I say you were given an out when you lost the synchronization and you'd be much better off in the long run focusing on more pragmatic self development rather than chasing a fleeting moment of vainglory. Grow as a person and you may even spontaneously get your "gift" (may have been a curse too, thats how these things work) back spontaneously for some good deed or another... it's just not a door you should be trying to break into or sneak around if its not already unlocked and open (sometimes then its still even better to not go through).

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so what cayce do was true...

mind is not bound for time and space
and it can be properly trained as a way
to peek trough Any time and any space
IN THE real world..past present future

i think what you had it was similar to dat
but compared to cayce control you r still far away... if what you say is true
and you were able to see where it will be
an object of the real world in the future..

i think it would be so amazing if you manage to get that ability back

my stuff is just totally related to my own dream.. and about the SP itself.. is nowhere near of dat
 Quoting: MRF


I wrote a paper on this which is on academia worth checking out.

[link to www.academia.edu (secure)]

You'd be amazed at how many people actually have this surface in their lives. Where it gets really interesting for those having the experience is when you can bridge into this specific type of dream with full self-awareness. A lucid precognitive dream is a must-have experience, especially if you change the initial dream while that opportunity is there to do so.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming



amazing i m goin to read it , thanks..

also i think if we are talking about dream control, on my latests dreams not only i decide to Wake Up in the dream... While i m on it and im totally aware of this power.. as a wild card to escape any dangerous situation...

i think that count as mere fraction of
what can be considered "control" of a dream

as for Redo-Reality i just manage to pull that once.. in the dream.i described..
they get so fricking tired.. i made them ask them.nicely to me...

when i was in swimming training i do really enjoy floating .. i can float just with air control without the need of move my body..completely still...

i found out that feeling have translated to dreams and i was able to pull the same... but i was bound by the same rule of the pool...

so if just want to.float i do it just 1 meter of ground and cant move from there...just very slowly like when doing at the pool

to make it.fun i simply climb a building do it from that high.. and move out of it..

it was a real world reality Logic in a place where logic and real.world rules should not apply lol
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Unfortunately in my personal opinion you are basically forever cut off from that synchronization. If it's any consolation even if you hadn't got cocky and brought down drastic ego frame-breaking corporeal punishment upon yourself that apparent power would have begun to fade away soon anyways and there are dozens of scenarios in which things could have went wayyyy worse for your sanity and your conciousness in general so just learn the lesson and don't beat yourself up about it.

Also, don't try and chase the "power" again because it won't end well for you. Lucid dreaming and astral adventures are of little objective importance and ultimately don't produce any real spiritual fruit in the long run. It's a form of self-abuse mental masturbation that does little but drain you of energy.
 Quoting: Zerubayah


Well, first of all it's not a power. It's a part of what we are. Even animals exhibit it. Although no doubts humans who end up experiencing it may want to exploit it for power because some (not all) humans seem to have some egotistical drive for power but because that trait is a lower-conscious trait it likely won't let them get there as this area does involve a quality of higher-consciousness.

Being self-aware during sleep is actually beneficial to us as it does help promote a lot of cognitive development and can be beneficial to our mental health when used for those reasons.

There is no drain in energy because we always dream, and simply participating in your own dreams is a choice.

But being altruistic I would say everything we do should come from egoless selflessness and love and for the betterment of the whole of which we are all parts of.
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I only have nightmares, I wish I could turn dreaming off.
 Quoting: A Deplorable Neanderthal



You don't want your body going through the constant fight-or-flight response during sleep when there is no threat because it's preparing itself for this action when there is no reason too.

 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Ok that is creepy.....all my nightmares are the same, just different settings.
All of them start with trying “flight”...then end up having to “fight”.
How did you know???
Actually, don’t answer, I’m freaked out...and sorry OP for hi jacking your thread.
 Quoting: A Deplorable Neanderthal


I know because I have studied dreaming since 1987 and focus on the neurological development and psychological development of the dream experience.

The science of dreaming and dream psychology shows we go through this fight-or-flight response with nightmares and you are simply in that statistical area of your own dream experiences.

The thread asked for an expert so here I am. And yes I can help you resolve nightmares for the remainder of your dream experiences so they go the way of the dodo bird as they should.

Dreaming should be a nighttime adventure and vacation destination, not a psychological torture chamber. I haven't had a nightmare in over 34 years now since I first learned to actually dream properly, but that is because I chose to learn how and participate in my own dream experiences.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


I'm sorry but your indoctrinated views on dreaming aren't even close.
By the way, this person is remote viewing not dreaming.
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Unfortunately in my personal opinion you are basically forever cut off from that synchronization. If it's any consolation even if you hadn't got cocky and brought down drastic ego frame-breaking corporeal punishment upon yourself that apparent power would have begun to fade away soon anyways and there are dozens of scenarios in which things could have went wayyyy worse for your sanity and your conciousness in general so just learn the lesson and don't beat yourself up about it.

Also, don't try and chase the "power" again because it won't end well for you. Lucid dreaming and astral adventures are of little objective importance and ultimately don't produce any real spiritual fruit in the long run. It's a form of self-abuse mental masturbation that does little but drain you of energy.
 Quoting: Zerubayah


Well, first of all it's not a power. It's a part of what we are. Even animals exhibit it. Although no doubts humans who end up experiencing it may want to exploit it for power because some (not all) humans seem to have some egotistical drive for power but because that trait is a lower-conscious trait it likely won't let them get there as this area does involve a quality of higher-consciousness.

Being self-aware during sleep is actually beneficial to us as it does help promote a lot of cognitive development and can be beneficial to our mental health when used for those reasons.

There is no drain in energy because we always dream, and simply participating in your own dreams is a choice.

But being altruistic I would say everything we do should come from egoless selflessness and love and for the betterment of the whole of which we are all parts of.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


I'm in the middle on this. I believe that ability is a gift from God like singing or playing music. Sure anyone can learn to play piano but some people are just born with that God-given talent while others spend a lifetime trying to perfect it. I feel like God gave me this talent, I abused it so He took it away but just like any talent, I can relearn it.
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You don't want your body going through the constant fight-or-flight response during sleep when there is no threat because it's preparing itself for this action when there is no reason too.

 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Ok that is creepy.....all my nightmares are the same, just different settings.
All of them start with trying “flight”...then end up having to “fight”.
How did you know???
Actually, don’t answer, I’m freaked out...and sorry OP for hi jacking your thread.
 Quoting: A Deplorable Neanderthal


I know because I have studied dreaming since 1987 and focus on the neurological development and psychological development of the dream experience.

The science of dreaming and dream psychology shows we go through this fight-or-flight response with nightmares and you are simply in that statistical area of your own dream experiences.

The thread asked for an expert so here I am. And yes I can help you resolve nightmares for the remainder of your dream experiences so they go the way of the dodo bird as they should.

Dreaming should be a nighttime adventure and vacation destination, not a psychological torture chamber. I haven't had a nightmare in over 34 years now since I first learned to actually dream properly, but that is because I chose to learn how and participate in my own dream experiences.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


I'm sorry but your indoctrinated views on dreaming aren't even close.
By the way, this person is remote viewing not dreaming.
 Quoting: Lazzathegreek


That's my bad on that part. I don't know the proper terminology for this stuff but I'm learning.
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amazing i m goin to read it , thanks..

also i think if we are talking about dream control, on my latests dreams not only i decide to Wake Up in the dream... While i m on it and im totally aware of this power.. as a wild card to escape any dangerous situation...

i think that count as mere fraction of
what can be considered "control" of a dream

as for Redo-Reality i just manage to pull that once.. in the dream.i described..
they get so fricking tired.. i made them ask them.nicely to me...

when i was in swimming training i do really enjoy floating .. i can float just with air control without the need of move my body..completely still...

i found out that feeling have translated to dreams and i was able to pull the same... but i was bound by the same rule of the pool...

so if just want to.float i do it just 1 meter of ground and cant move from there...just very slowly like when doing at the pool

to make it.fun i simply climb a building do it from that high.. and move out of it..

it was a real world reality Logic in a place where logic and real.world rules should not apply lol
 Quoting: MRF


The nice thing about dreaming is, we all dream. We are all dreamers and as a skill and practice we can simply become better at it. Has it's own intrinsic perks to say the least ;)
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Unfortunately in my personal opinion you are basically forever cut off from that synchronization. If it's any consolation even if you hadn't got cocky and brought down drastic ego frame-breaking corporeal punishment upon yourself that apparent power would have begun to fade away soon anyways and there are dozens of scenarios in which things could have went wayyyy worse for your sanity and your conciousness in general so just learn the lesson and don't beat yourself up about it.

Also, don't try and chase the "power" again because it won't end well for you. Lucid dreaming and astral adventures are of little objective importance and ultimately don't produce any real spiritual fruit in the long run. It's a form of self-abuse mental masturbation that does little but drain you of energy.
 Quoting: Zerubayah


Well, first of all it's not a power. It's a part of what we are. Even animals exhibit it. Although no doubts humans who end up experiencing it may want to exploit it for power because some (not all) humans seem to have some egotistical drive for power but because that trait is a lower-conscious trait it likely won't let them get there as this area does involve a quality of higher-consciousness.

Being self-aware during sleep is actually beneficial to us as it does help promote a lot of cognitive development and can be beneficial to our mental health when used for those reasons.

There is no drain in energy because we always dream, and simply participating in your own dreams is a choice.

But being altruistic I would say everything we do should come from egoless selflessness and love and for the betterment of the whole of which we are all parts of.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


There actually is a very large drain in energy when you consider your waking conscious attention as the primary energy of consciousness. Active lucid dreaming and it's commonly attendant astral activities seem to draw an inordinate amount of the conscious self-reflective attention of those who take a serious dive into it, and in my experience it usually doesn't end well (in a moral sanity sense) for those who take it too seriously.
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I'm sorry but your indoctrinated views on dreaming aren't even close.
By the way, this person is remote viewing not dreaming.
 Quoting: Lazzathegreek


Here's a picture of me (on the right) hanging out with Joseph McMoneagle retired US army intelligence officer with 40 years of remote viewing.

[link to youaredreaming.org (secure)]

And guess what, Joe learned something from me that no one in his entire career in this field knew. Something that went way beyond his remote-viewing training. Something he had experience with but never talked about with anyone.

To find I went further into it than he.

Hmm... what I know that you do not would shock you but I have no ego rather just presenting there is more here than you realize at the end of the keyboard in terms of real applicable knowledge.

I've also been written about and my work has been used in a couple of University studies and I could have been involved in the US military psychic research but declined decades ago, as well as another organization that I won't mention that wanted me but also declined.

I prefer the lone-wolf student of reality path for so many obvious reasons.
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I'm sorry but your indoctrinated views on dreaming aren't even close.
By the way, this person is remote viewing not dreaming.
 Quoting: Lazzathegreek


Here's a picture of me (on the right) hanging out with Joseph McMoneagle retired US army intelligence officer with 40 years of remote viewing.

[link to youaredreaming.org (secure)]

And guess what, Joe learned something from me that no one in his entire career in this field knew. Something that went way beyond his remote-viewing training. Something he had experience with but never talked about with anyone.

To find I went further into it than he.

Hmm... what I know that you do not would shock you but I have no ego rather just presenting there is more here than you realize at the end of the keyboard in terms of real applicable knowledge.

I've also been written about and my work has been used in a couple of University studies and I could have been involved in the US military psychic research but declined decades ago, as well as another organization that I won't mention that wanted me but also declined.

I prefer the lone-wolf student of reality path for so many obvious reasons.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Why didn't you use the correct terminology beforehand?
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There actually is a very large drain in energy when you consider your waking conscious attention as the primary energy of consciousness. Active lucid dreaming and it's commonly attendant astral activities seem to draw an inordinate amount of the conscious self-reflective attention of those who take a serious dive into it, and in my experience it usually doesn't end well (in a moral sanity sense) for those who take it too seriously.
 Quoting: Zerubayah


Well, I've been doing this for 34 years almost every night. I've already mentioned the self-edification and moral-edification aspect of the experience in prior posts that come with the practice.

Everyone has 3-5 dreams, some birds dream and every mammal with a brain dreams. To say dreaming is bad or leads to stupid shit is really a big draw and stretch. That's like saying learning to master playing the piano is going to turn you into a psychotic monster.

How someone uses their dreams can be beneficial or consequential that much is clearly studied in history and the Jungian shadow-self is very real, I call it the anti-self.

And this doesn't apply to just dreams, we can either express our true-self or our anti-self in both our waking and dream life because that reflects our true nature and quality, no escaping that we exist and we are something that is both good and evil in potential.

The way I see it... if a person is evil by nature they will express that both in their waking life and in the dreams but their dreams may exaggerate it even more.

I view that as lower-consciousness and that path is the path to self-destruction, self-sabotage, and the anti-self.

When observed and known that we have a true-self, that comes from higher-consciousness our dreams can also connect us to that.

It is all in how the individual chooses to transgress themselves. Do they choose to evolve and become their highest potential or do they make bad choices and de-evolve into self-destruction?

Dreams will reflect our nature and we can use them to transgress towards our true self or not. But that is again something that comes with the self-edifying nature of this practice that has to be learned through direct experience ie... can't be taught like telling the student the answer to a question so they can't figure out how to get to that result themselves.

Self-edifying truth is all about epiphanies and self-realized moments in this system and is earned by the merits of oneself.
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I personally never goes that far...

but in people who had 100% control
of their dreams and are able to pull it
off at will, the things they r able.to see or experiment they cannot be expressed in words, it also true military Was or still is interested in such stuff..

if cayce were alive.. he would probably be receiving millons in job offerings to work with the goverment..

i was always super interested in what he says about what was under the right paw of the sphinx and Atlantis itself..

i wonder if currently anyone alive is able to see as much as he was
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It's easy to control them as dreams are just a form of memeory-replay and thinking.
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Sorry, but that's bullshit. I dream people I've never met in real life. I do things I never did. Everything is completely unknown to me. Memories my ass.
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 Quoting: President of TABTX


You can get it back, You just have to think about it every single day, a lot.
It has to be in your mind. In your thoughts during the day and they will seep into your thoughts at night. Has nothing to do with karma it’s just an ability the brain provides.
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Our friend "Youaredreaming" is going to help retrain me. I'm excited to try this again. Btw LONG TIME NO SEE! I hope you've been well!
 Quoting: President of TABTX


You too darlin! hugs I think he will help you greatly! I wish you luck, it's the funnest thing!
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but whats the difference between
lucid dream and remote viewing

it is possible to have 100% control of a dream.. and see trough it at the future?
i mean real world future..

or remote viewing is a state of mind
not related anything to dreams in with it is merely to see things and places of the real.world disregaring time and space rules..
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Why didn't you use the correct terminology beforehand?
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I didn't. Remote Viewing is done while we are awake sitting at a table with a paper to sketch on. It doesn't involve the body being asleep and being in a dream because one cannot sketch the result on the paper ;)

Precognitive dreaming or Deja reve occurs during sleep and often occurs as an anomalous cognitive event for most where they are not willfully directing it with intent as one can when awake using a sheet of paper sensing this information.

Both have pros and cons. Remote Viewing can be biased by our intellectual ego and doesn't involve a sensory-replay model of the event if it's future tense like a dream would.

A precognitive dream has similar qualities in that it can be a spectrum of symbolic precognitive noise to literal precognitive information that matches the event with 100% accuracy down to the finest granular detail.

When you have a literal precognitive dream waking life becomes like a re-run of a movie you first watched in your dreams because the literal context is pristine. But that too can be muddled with noise so it can be degraded also.

Both are subject to changes in probability however as the future isn't entirely deterministic rather probabilistic and that comes through both these types of experience.
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what they say in here..
could be true..?

¿,,it is remote viewing
more than just lucid dreaming?

still i consider a freaking cool ability 2 have.
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I personally never goes that far...

but in people who had 100% control
of their dreams and are able to pull it
off at will, the things they r able.to see or experiment they cannot be expressed in words, it also true military Was or still is interested in such stuff..

if cayce were alive.. he would probably be receiving millons in job offerings to work with the goverment..

i was always super interested in what he says about what was under the right paw of the sphinx and Atlantis itself..

i wonder if currently anyone alive is able to see as much as he was
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Well, I personally find having precognitive dreams part of my self-edifying nature so to me they are part of lessons I am learning from, but then I look at life as a school and we are all learning lessons, some slower than others.

But I go further than just the precognitive aspect offered in this more anomalous cognitive state but that gets even more off the charts for most here such as past-life and pre-Earth aspects of oneself.
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Dreams are not a form of memory replay.. How can a nightmare or dying in a dream have anything to do with memory?
Dreams are not even closely related to us, they are given to us, yes, given to us.

OP's dilemma is completely different, he/She is experiencing real time viewing, something lm not familiar with. But l do know this, if you are or have been psychology scarred or hurt by someone it will affect your abilities to leave your body.. OP's capture by the police would have affected him/her mentally, it's not Karma (doesn't exist) it's trauma.
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I personally never goes that far...

but in people who had 100% control
of their dreams and are able to pull it
off at will, the things they r able.to see or experiment they cannot be expressed in words, it also true military Was or still is interested in such stuff..

if cayce were alive.. he would probably be receiving millons in job offerings to work with the goverment..

i was always super interested in what he says about what was under the right paw of the sphinx and Atlantis itself..

i wonder if currently anyone alive is able to see as much as he was
 Quoting: MRF


Well, I personally find having precognitive dreams part of my self-edifying nature so to me they are part of lessons I am learning from, but then I look at life as a school and we are all learning lessons, some slower than others.

But I go further than just the precognitive aspect offered in this more anomalous cognitive state but that gets even more off the charts for most here such as past-life and pre-Earth aspects of oneself.
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Wow! You are either a bit crazy or crazy in the deeps with your subconscious states. ohyeah Either way, you're interesting. hf
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what they say in here..
could be true..?

¿,,it is remote viewing
more than just lucid dreaming?

still i consider a freaking cool ability 2 have.
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Remote viewing is done while we are awake. It was a tool developed by the CIA and military as a response to Chinese and Russian psychic research. Why they went with RV over Dreams is because RV can be done all day while you are awake and you can have a team of trained RV people so the data can then be analysed because there are intellectual biases that emerge in the data. Joe had an 80% accuracy which is amazing.

That said, they looked at dreams too but because dreaming has a lot more going on there is often other things one's subconscious self may want to work on than fulfilling some military target request.

For myself, there is precognitive dreaming and there is also lucid precognitive dreaming and active lucid precognitive dreaming all with interesting qualities that emerge.

The peak of the experience imo is Active Lucid Precognitive Dreaming.

That's when you can hack reality by changing the lucid precognitive dream before it comes true and then observe those changes happening here.

That's pretty amazing to experience.
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You don't want your body going through the constant fight-or-flight response during sleep when there is no threat because it's preparing itself for this action when there is no reason too.

 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Ok that is creepy.....all my nightmares are the same, just different settings.
All of them start with trying “flight”...then end up having to “fight”.
How did you know???
Actually, don’t answer, I’m freaked out...and sorry OP for hi jacking your thread.
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I know because I have studied dreaming since 1987 and focus on the neurological development and psychological development of the dream experience.

The science of dreaming and dream psychology shows we go through this fight-or-flight response with nightmares and you are simply in that statistical area of your own dream experiences.

The thread asked for an expert so here I am. And yes I can help you resolve nightmares for the remainder of your dream experiences so they go the way of the dodo bird as they should.

Dreaming should be a nighttime adventure and vacation destination, not a psychological torture chamber. I haven't had a nightmare in over 34 years now since I first learned to actually dream properly, but that is because I chose to learn how and participate in my own dream experiences.
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I'm sorry but your indoctrinated views on dreaming aren't even close.
By the way, this person is remote viewing not dreaming.
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I’m remote viewing?
Youaredreaming theories make much more sense.
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I personally never goes that far...

but in people who had 100% control
of their dreams and are able to pull it
off at will, the things they r able.to see or experiment they cannot be expressed in words, it also true military Was or still is interested in such stuff..

if cayce were alive.. he would probably be receiving millons in job offerings to work with the goverment..

i was always super interested in what he says about what was under the right paw of the sphinx and Atlantis itself..

i wonder if currently anyone alive is able to see as much as he was
 Quoting: MRF


Well, I personally find having precognitive dreams part of my self-edifying nature so to me they are part of lessons I am learning from, but then I look at life as a school and we are all learning lessons, some slower than others.

But I go further than just the precognitive aspect offered in this more anomalous cognitive state but that gets even more off the charts for most here such as past-life and pre-Earth aspects of oneself.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming

Wow! You are either a bit crazy or crazy in the deeps with your subconscious states. ohyeah Either way, you're interesting. hf
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See? Just a minor brush with you and I have already come up with a unique phrase I can use in my book. Thanks My Friend!!!!!! Interesting...
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It's easy to control them as dreams are just a form of memeory-replay and thinking.
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Sorry, but that's bullshit. I dream people I've never met in real life. I do things I never did. Everything is completely unknown to me. Memories my ass.
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I didn't say all memories are limited to your waking life.
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Dreams are not a form of memory replay.. How can a nightmare or dying in a dream have anything to do with memory?
Dreams are not even closely related to us, they are given to us, yes, given to us.

OP's dilemma is completely different, he/She is experiencing real time viewing, something lm not familiar with. But l do know this, if you are or have been psychology scarred or hurt by someone it will affect your abilities to leave your body.. OP's capture by the police would have affected him/her mentally, it's not Karma (doesn't exist) it's trauma.
 Quoting: Lazzathegreek


How can you possibly say it doesn't?
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