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North Korean Missiles Getting More Agile, Evasive: Experts

 
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North Korean Missiles Getting More Agile, Evasive: Experts

North Korea’s state media said Friday the weapons it fired a day earlier from its eastern coast were a new type of "tactical guided projectile" that borrowed the core technology of an earlier system.

According to the Korean Central News Agency, the new solid-fuel missiles, which are designed to be fired from land vehicles, could be armed with warheads weighing as much as 2.5 tons. During Thursday’s tests, the missiles demonstrated low-altitude, maneuverable flight and accurately hit a sea target 600 kilometers (372 miles) away...

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"Analysts say the North likely tested an upgraded version of a system modeled after Russia’s Iskander mobile ballistic missiles. Their flatter trajectories compared to conventional ballistic weapons make them fly at an altitude where air is dense enough to allow for maneuverability. The unpredictability makes them harder to be intercepted by missile defense systems, experts say."
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Scientists agree, the puppet masters want war with North Korea.
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As far as I know, the US doesn't have a missile that can do what this North Korean missile can do with such a massive warhead.
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As far as I know, the US doesn't have a missile that can do what this North Korean missile can do with such a massive warhead.
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The US doesn't *need* that kind of missile. We haven't needed a missile with that kind of weapons payload capacity since the late 1960s. We can place ten miniaturized warheads on a missile with less payload capacity than what DPRK is using for a single warhead.
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They get all the top technology from the Chinese and Russians.
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As far as I know, the US doesn't have a missile that can do what this North Korean missile can do with such a massive warhead.
 Quoting: Adaluncatif


The US doesn't *need* that kind of missile. We haven't needed a missile with that kind of weapons payload capacity since the late 1960s. We can place ten miniaturized warheads on a missile with less payload capacity than what DPRK is using for a single warhead.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Correct.
But we never deployed a purpose-built EMP weapon.
This is an Xray laser/MASER or Gamma focusing fission device built for the express purpose of detonating about 300 miles overhead in the central USA to cause a nation-wide black out via EMP.
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They get all the top technology from the Chinese and Russians.
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Actually, the speculation is that they have been working most closely with the Iranians. It has long been my theory that when the so-called "nuclear deal" was reached with Iran, they simply transferred their entire nuclear weapons program to North Korea, where they took it over with some assistance from Iranian nuclear scientists.

The timeline fits perfectly with nuclear weapons tests performed by the DPRK. Prior to 2015, which is when the JCPOA was signed with Iran, North Korea had conducted three nuclear tests, the first of which was considered a fizzle, and were crude single-stage weapons of very low yield. They were also much too large to be mounted on any kind of delivery system available to the DPRK at that time.

In 2016, they conducted two more nuclear tests, the second of which was the largest yield to that date and was also potentially small enough to be delivered by missile. In 2017 they conducted a test of a multi-stage thermonuclear weapon exceeding 100 kilotons in yield. This is an amazing jump in technology for only two years worth of development.

This is also why a lot of analysts think Iran already has nuclear weapons in their possession. They were tested and constructed in North Korea, then transferred to the Iranians.

All of this is pure theory based on circumstantial evidence, of course. I have no actual proof to back it up.
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As far as I know, the US doesn't have a missile that can do what this North Korean missile can do with such a massive warhead.
 Quoting: Adaluncatif


The US doesn't *need* that kind of missile. We haven't needed a missile with that kind of weapons payload capacity since the late 1960s. We can place ten miniaturized warheads on a missile with less payload capacity than what DPRK is using for a single warhead.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Correct.
But we never deployed a purpose-built EMP weapon.
This is an Xray laser/MASER or Gamma focusing fission device built for the express purpose of detonating about 300 miles overhead in the central USA to cause a nation-wide black out via EMP.
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True. I've seen some intel on that being a possible strategy for North Korea. And people seem to have forgotten about the two DPRK "earth observation" satellites still in a polar orbit which takes them over the US quite frequently. North Korea knows they cannot take on the US warhead for warhead and achieve a "MAD" capability. But they *could* achieve a different type of MAD with an orbital EMP weapon.

No proof for this, of course.
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They get all the top technology from the Chinese and Russians.
 Quoting: Hal McCoy


Actually, the speculation is that they have been working most closely with the Iranians. It has long been my theory that when the so-called "nuclear deal" was reached with Iran, they simply transferred their entire nuclear weapons program to North Korea, where they took it over with some assistance from Iranian nuclear scientists.

The timeline fits perfectly with nuclear weapons tests performed by the DPRK. Prior to 2015, which is when the JCPOA was signed with Iran, North Korea had conducted three nuclear tests, the first of which was considered a fizzle, and were crude single-stage weapons of very low yield. They were also much too large to be mounted on any kind of delivery system available to the DPRK at that time.

In 2016, they conducted two more nuclear tests, the second of which was the largest yield to that date and was also potentially small enough to be delivered by missile. In 2017 they conducted a test of a multi-stage thermonuclear weapon exceeding 100 kilotons in yield. This is an amazing jump in technology for only two years worth of development.

This is also why a lot of analysts think Iran already has nuclear weapons in their possession. They were tested and constructed in North Korea, then transferred to the Iranians.

All of this is pure theory based on circumstantial evidence, of course. I have no actual proof to back it up.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


The Iranians get all their top Technology from the Russians and Chinese too.

They are the Mules.

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