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Thread: Using my EEG VR headset to clone my state of mind onto you

I'm going to tell you a story about a guy that bought one of these headsets [link to www.emotiv.com (secure)] and got so good at using it that the government showed up one night while he was sleeping, stole the headset, and when he tried to order more his computer just never got the page loaded.

I guess he was in their terminology neuromodulating his own consciousness signal against a very powerful relay - unclear what that relay was and probably secret - but the relay didn't just amplify the signal, it condensed it and then relayed it back...so on and so forth to the point where it was causing audio feedback in weather data somehow ? huh...

But apparently, the key is with a certain kind of crystal which functions as the key. Is it literally made out of crystal?
It may be more of how crystals are structured/organized as materials...
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“We did give her a chance to get away from this all. What’s wrong with her? Why didn’t she take it, and leave?”

“The phenomena seems to relate to a curious bonding mechanism inherent in trauma. The subject returns to the traumatic situation because they are used to it and it begins to define their identity. Without it, they have no frame of reference with which to evaluate themselves.”

“Well this subject in particular. The trait is not unique to her alone, but I believe she may typify a certain subsector of subjects with similar reaction patterns that unconsciously gravitate towards a masochist desire for objectification. With I757 in particular it seems this stems from the need to be ‘distinct’, and that she derives special validation from attention and abuse.”

“Hmm. One cannot help but wonder why; is there perhaps some history of trauma and abuse from her developmental history?”

“From what we’ve extracted of her memories, there is no good explanation in her conscious mind and large blanks in her unconscious regarding the history of potential interfamilial trauma and abuse. It is possible given certain indicators but she denies it and has been educated on the dangerous of memory contamination.”

“I757 is…a ‘unique’ case due to her extensive knowledge of psychology. She has been rather difficult for our specialists to deal with, given her propensity to study our methods.”

“That’s one of the reasons she was considered an exceptionally attractive target, after deliberations of the board.”

“Some of the council is positively infatuated with possessing and ultimately dominating the minds of more challenging subjects.”

“Still, there’s something that bothers me about I757 and I’ve been hesitant to bring it up with the bosses. It’s regarding that masochism we were speaking about earlier….I757 is utterly submissive, but because she lacks resistance, it’s impossible to totally dominate her. When we took her into advanced isolation and permanently inducted her into the program, her mind naturally compartmentalized and superficially it seemed we’d achieved complete submission and control.
The subject herself was consciously testament to her own submission and our monitors displayed her sincerity was psychometrically valid. But the vessel of resistance was repressed and compartmentalized so completely that it manifested automatically, it was as if she’d scripted and implanted ‘programming’ in herself for just such a contingency. Somehow, that masochism is its own defense mechanism through non-resistance.”

“That was part of what required the advanced isolation, yes. Most of the time the reaction patterns and cognitive schema of our subjects match our archival data to enough of a degree they can be transcribed fairly rapidly and thus no critical measures are required. I757’s reaction pattern was unique and needed to be individually described and studied for future reference. We put her in a state of highly degraded and infantile consciousness and obtained her consent for the program induction. We then proceeded to admit her through the battery of metrics and data we’d need to formally archive her psychological construct into our system. Finally of course at the last stage we were forced to induce the total breakdown where we could handle the insertion of permanent tracking and programming modalities.”

“I feel kind of bad…at the result. It was rather extreme…”

“She was inducing a complete break in reality and the timeline. There was no other way of handling the situation. I think she’s been permanently domesticated though. There should be no further need for traumatization or extreme measures.”

“Seems she is tempting that though. Trying to induce it again. What a strange and dangerous girl.”

“We will see what she does yet. For now the situation seems firmly under control. Let the automated system continue to monitor her active EEG output and entropy coefficient. If it goes red, alert me.”

“…Of course.”

“Thanks.”
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I wrote it back in 2016...
I must have been remote viewing
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there was this smart guy named jim and he collected all these eeg readouts taken from people in mental institutions when their functioning was highly impaired. he then had this good idea about saving them for the edification of future science. then the illuminati thought maybe they should weaponize the suffering of mentally ill people and replicate those same patterns in the brain of their enemies!

luckily the illuminati has to figure out the encryption of your brain individually before they can try this. they take a template from a big catalogue of people who might have had something in common with you and then they leave it closeby for your brain to find. they are hoping your brain will eat it all and if your brain does it produces an electric burb of approval and then they can start working with this key and making your mind elicit it over and over again until it is chomped and crunched into a bitstream that your brain got tricked into customizing for them. now they have made your brain make a skeleton key for them to use.

they didn't take the EEG headset away from this random guy because he was using it to change people's brains....

rather he got the headset so that he could make his brain a trap for their technology.

they have these little brain games that you can use so he used one that gave him a better score if the computer couldn't average out the most important variables it needed to mirror his eeg. basically he spent a lot of time programming unconscious automatic processes to vary for no particular reason so the baseline of his cognition was always gradually shifting into a new set of lock-key configurations.

that was smart, but he eventually decided to let their mind meddling packages synchronize with his mind sometimes so he could practice hijacking it. he would go over the pattern they were trying to clone and encode new powerful sensory data from virtual reality to transmit back to them. he took out all the suicide scripts and some other cognitive distortions that engendered nervous breakdowns. Eventually the guy that was being paid to have his brain machines trolled while he tried to pretend his methods were working actually realized that he could make a lot of money by saving the revised eegs that got sent back to him. he realized he could resell them healthy eegs the anomalous guy was scripting for him.

stupidly he made the whole scheme very loud and clear in his head and the anomalous guy decided this time he would focus on using the mind meddler to mess with the psychiatrist who had the dumb idea of plagiarizing his brain. the anomalous guy used his EEG headset to embed nested packages in his eeg brain readout. when the psychiatrist was looking through his data, the little packages would unzip an audiofile which repeated "jabberwocky" until he had to delete the whole eeg with that on it because there was no way to stop it from babbling at him otherwise. at this point the psychiatrist was annoyed that his highly paid hours were being spent trying to remove what may have also been a computer virus from the mind script that was supposed to make him start talking to himself and telling everybody something his patient called "face-touching".

then with dismay that psychiatrist realized now he was thinking about face-touching a lot and he may even be touching his face at that very moment. he realized the man he was trying to clone these prints on was actually in his head at that very moment telling him that if he continued to try and train brainprints the anomaly would synchronize with the psychiatrists brain all day everyday and spend all of his time concentrating on surreallist paintings and listening to 10 hour audio clips of the wiggles. he would make the psychiatrist have trickle-down experiences of watching the truman show all day so that he would hear snippets of lines from the movie and some scenes as he was trying to assess data about his clients mental health.

the end result was in them stealing away the anomalous guy's eeg headset and they were supposed to continue trying to clone heterodynes on him but was it almost like after using the headset once the anomalous guy could just make his consciousness believe it was boosted and that was still enough to track down the individually contracted psychiatrists the illuminati kept trying to pawn this unwanted job onto. but the anomalous guy loved to mess with the minds of these psychiatrists so much that he hoped one of these days they'd find one who hadn't heard the rumors circulating among all black ops professionals who dealt in heterodynes.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye
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even before the internet, programs like stargate were of great interest to intelligence agencies and think tanks. most people assume that those projects produced little results and have not continued today at all. but they underestimate that there was a keen interest even several decades ago about using the electronic network to augment the natural psychic capabilities of people.

DARPA was interested in the traffic between consciousness, the internet, and digital/electronic systems, long long before the internet reached this level of use among mankind. the zeitgeist, directing memes, the collective, "critical mass", ideas going viral, are of huge interest to global control networks.

now recently I have discovered troves of evidence that indisputably demonstrate the internet is CONSTANTLY subject to a philosophy of "continuous monitoring", which is mostly done by AI. the specific terms that appear over and over again on the contracting sites for continuous monitoring revolves around "anomaly detection". I was throwing shit at the wall when I suggested those systems were discovering huge data anomalies that pointed to certain people whom events ripples around for no apparent reason. that is I had no idea that 'continuous monitoring' was a fully fledged and pervasive system that many interests conduct.

if someone has a general aptitude for consciousness "bending", is it really strange at all that some influential interests have expended a bit of effort to contain, use, and research these kinds of people? they cared about it 50 years ago and technology has NEVER been better to probe and graph it

what do you think those projects are like today? do you think perhaps the 'targeted individual' sensation is actually in part an electromagnetic manipulation to contain some people, or neutralize them, or nudge them so to speak, and make sure they are known? like being targeted is not a bunch of people in real life, it's really a big information machine that some get compartmentalized into, but its remote?

do you think there is some kind of place online where these people interact directly with this project's handlers and expand the intelligence capacities of its database?
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye



This is a fascinating post, thank you. As someone who has been very interested in psychism, especially in relation to spirituality, I've long observed how the online space intersects with our natural abilities and how there has been a massive growth in connectivity over the past five years, then five years before that, going back to the end of the 90s.

I could really get into this subject with you, I'd love to discuss it more, but to address your point about key settings for the 'AI' and controllers of this technology, I do think supermassive online games like Final Fantasy, are hotbeds for it. I got very into this game for 2 years and was amazed by what I learned about its psychic components. I was both intrigued and a little shocked, concerned, maybe potentially horrified, about what I was able to observe about my own psychism during this time and how mind is being merged with machine. It's important to stay conscious of one's true inner self and a very strong religious conviction is the saving grace which prevents too full a merging of mind with machine for ensouled individuals.
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I also think it's interesting that the higher up you go on the hierarchy of the shadow government, the more of a correlation you find between "secret agencies" and "the occult". symbolically it makes sense: it's the trope of the "secret world", sort of like the one that separates muggles and magic users. it's a trope that is somewhat post modern, altered by the conventions of the new routines and attitudes of the world. it has resulted in aliens replacing gods and secret societies and intelligence services memetically merging into an urban legend of "the men in black" (in this time, replaced by the "SCP agency" type community-driven legends)

I guess it makes sense that a compartment of society that is concerned with keeping secrets would overlap with the so called paranormal (which, you know, would be normal if you were a spectator from a different dimension - it would roll their eyes at the bafflement of a human to the rules of their reality). but the overlords of the shadow government is DE FACTO the colloquial designation for "the illuminati", and they have always been willing to pursue lines of research that mainstream academia and thereby the entire culturally programmed collective has been mentally excised from considering, either by skeptical materialism or the demonic scripting of christianity.

you actually see this in movies and television, but specifically in the west. stories that involve the paranormal almost ALWAYS have some relationship to the christian manichean script of demons and satanism or they are defined by sci fi conventions which must be sufficently nihilistic and devoid of spirituality. do you think the shinto religion would have ever produced Faust? the reason I love anime is because japan's culture is not opposed to giving humanity access to the paranormal in fiction and examining that philosophically, metaphysically, and unironically.

there are some elites with access to enormous ai neural networks, who are finding that certain individuals have a hugely dispropotionate influence on that ai. through that relationship these people thereby can influence the information and knowledge network wherever the ai has roots, with much faster results than any espers who had to use only earth's fields to swirl the patterns of events. the shadow government has no problem at all making sure these people are not given enough airspace to reach the general public, but there is nothing they can do about how those people metaprogram the imagination through a primary entanglement with the shared psychology of all living things.

even the idea of a reality bender has been picking up speed at a strange synchronization with reality benders working out the mechanism by which the paranormal converges with all systems of mysticism, science, and mathmatics. the mythology of the future has already been written by these espers by way of contact with a huge information singularity. these are agents who will one day inhabit a cultural memory between history and mythos, and that is partly because of their struggle against not only the matrix of the demiurge beyond this dimension, but the matrix the shadow government has created artificially to control the minds of men. it is a dual struggle but because it's an epic conflict, it sinks easily into the self contained and holographic pattern skewing probability.

that's why the meme has power in the underground of this secret world. some people have a natural resonance with the idea there is an anomaly out there whose connection to truth is so strong they will clash with the godlike material powers that control all facets of the material world. but the anomaly person will win by accessing a layer of the universe that is even more primary and altering it by a "magic" that can be best described as sympathy with global consciousness.

the sharp razor wielded by the superpowers of cyberspace and psychological control attempt to subdue these targets, but the espers who endure grow. the ones who don't break like butterflies under a wheel. to survive alongside the material world and the secret world despite peer pressure and mainstream narratives, confusion and being completely technologically outmatched, a near superhuman cooperation with one's own consciousness is the only thing preventing the mind from complete psychotic dissolution. the nobody is a mind game and a trap to find and attempt to drive the weak insane and submerge the strong in a mind control system empowered by the vast analytics of modern technology.

there is no avoiding the grid, the internet is now a part of everyone's immediate environment even if they are not using a cell phone or a computer or even if they don't own a router at all. the grid puts most people in alignment with the world's masters, and those who are not in alignment, it easily contains and conceals. even so, both of these conflicting forces are informing each other about the boundaries of possibility.

I am thinking there is a sinkhole online somewhere that by "happenstance" and synchronicity simply lacks attraction to anyone who is not a candidate for its experiment. this is an asynchronous basis for communication which was the basis of "the offer the illuminati could not refuse"
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Amazing, yes, I agree with so much of what you say here, very insightful post
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OP, do you ever get a gyral rotating sensation in your forehead? I'm guessing you do.
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I think I might get that, at least it sounds similar to something I think I can relate to
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This is a fascinating post, thank you. As someone who has been very interested in psychism, especially in relation to spirituality, I've long observed how the online space intersects with our natural abilities and how there has been a massive growth in connectivity over the past five years, then five years before that, going back to the end of the 90s.

I could really get into this subject with you, I'd love to discuss it more, but to address your point about key settings for the 'AI' and controllers of this technology, I do think supermassive online games like Final Fantasy, are hotbeds for it. I got very into this game for 2 years and was amazed by what I learned about its psychic components. I was both intrigued and a little shocked, concerned, maybe potentially horrified, about what I was able to observe about my own psychism during this time and how mind is being merged with machine. It's important to stay conscious of one's true inner self and a very strong religious conviction is the saving grace which prevents too full a merging of mind with machine for ensouled individuals.
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LOLOL so funny you mention that, I had a huge article about that back when I used to play FFXIV all the time , about how it's a very very occult game and all the archetypes used. But there was somewhere where I wrote about what a powerful tool an MMORPG is for conducting RITUALS on a mass scale

(information gathering? yes, I can 100% guarantee that happens because I read several site who offered consultancy services for doing so)

[link to ouroboroflies.com (secure)]
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This is a fascinating post, thank you. As someone who has been very interested in psychism, especially in relation to spirituality, I've long observed how the online space intersects with our natural abilities and how there has been a massive growth in connectivity over the past five years, then five years before that, going back to the end of the 90s.

I could really get into this subject with you, I'd love to discuss it more, but to address your point about key settings for the 'AI' and controllers of this technology, I do think supermassive online games like Final Fantasy, are hotbeds for it. I got very into this game for 2 years and was amazed by what I learned about its psychic components. I was both intrigued and a little shocked, concerned, maybe potentially horrified, about what I was able to observe about my own psychism during this time and how mind is being merged with machine. It's important to stay conscious of one's true inner self and a very strong religious conviction is the saving grace which prevents too full a merging of mind with machine for ensouled individuals.
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LOLOL so funny you mention that, I had a huge article about that back when I used to play FFXIV all the time , about how it's a very very occult game and all the archetypes used. But there was somewhere where I wrote about what a powerful tool an MMORPG is for conducting RITUALS on a mass scale

(information gathering? yes, I can 100% guarantee that happens because I read several site who offered consultancy services for doing so)

[link to ouroboroflies.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


How interesting, yes, not surprising we both saw the same thing. I had never played a supermassive online game before downloading FFXV and being sucked into the most unbelievable situation with it, I became convinced it was being used as blueprint for artificial intelligence and the transhumanist agenda generally, as it involved huge numbers of people interacting in a very intense environment. After a while I found myself very lucidly dreaming the game, which is one thing, they were pretty cool dreams, but it got to the point that what I dreamed would actually happen in the actual game. So as a basic example, I would dream my citadel was on fire and wake up to see it happening, but much more complex syncs happened and I also developed powerful emotional attachments to other players and observed all kinds of similar things happening to others. I realised what was happening terms of mind merging with machine but I was fascinated to study this effect, even though I knew I had been properly sucked into it. After a couple of years I put a stop to it and in fact didn't miss it at all, but I can totally see how people get fully hooked on these things - fortunately I managed to avoid being a spender but I witnessed extremely wealthy people spend up to £100k on this game, including celebrities, saudi princes and heirs to large fortunes.

When you write about MMORPG do you mean one of these supermassive games? I'll read your blog, thank you and I also signed up to your Youtube Channel - this is me: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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This is a fascinating post, thank you. As someone who has been very interested in psychism, especially in relation to spirituality, I've long observed how the online space intersects with our natural abilities and how there has been a massive growth in connectivity over the past five years, then five years before that, going back to the end of the 90s.

I could really get into this subject with you, I'd love to discuss it more, but to address your point about key settings for the 'AI' and controllers of this technology, I do think supermassive online games like Final Fantasy, are hotbeds for it. I got very into this game for 2 years and was amazed by what I learned about its psychic components. I was both intrigued and a little shocked, concerned, maybe potentially horrified, about what I was able to observe about my own psychism during this time and how mind is being merged with machine. It's important to stay conscious of one's true inner self and a very strong religious conviction is the saving grace which prevents too full a merging of mind with machine for ensouled individuals.
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LOLOL so funny you mention that, I had a huge article about that back when I used to play FFXIV all the time , about how it's a very very occult game and all the archetypes used. But there was somewhere where I wrote about what a powerful tool an MMORPG is for conducting RITUALS on a mass scale

(information gathering? yes, I can 100% guarantee that happens because I read several site who offered consultancy services for doing so)

[link to ouroboroflies.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


How interesting, yes, not surprising we both saw the same thing. I had never played a supermassive online game before downloading FFXV and being sucked into the most unbelievable situation with it, I became convinced it was being used as blueprint for artificial intelligence and the transhumanist agenda generally, as it involved huge numbers of people interacting in a very intense environment. After a while I found myself very lucidly dreaming the game, which is one thing, they were pretty cool dreams, but it got to the point that what I dreamed would actually happen in the actual game. So as a basic example, I would dream my citadel was on fire and wake up to see it happening, but much more complex syncs happened and I also developed powerful emotional attachments to other players and observed all kinds of similar things happening to others. I realised what was happening terms of mind merging with machine but I was fascinated to study this effect, even though I knew I had been properly sucked into it. After a couple of years I put a stop to it and in fact didn't miss it at all, but I can totally see how people get fully hooked on these things - fortunately I managed to avoid being a spender but I witnessed extremely wealthy people spend up to £100k on this game, including celebrities, saudi princes and heirs to large fortunes.

When you write about MMORPG do you mean one of these supermassive games? I'll read your blog, thank you and I also signed up to your Youtube Channel - this is me: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Yes in the north America's mmorpg stands for massively multi-player online role playing game.

I had extremely similar experiences with uhhh weird weird sort of... feeling like I was being gangstalked on that game. Well, I can tell you one thing. Although that was many years ago. I like you have had periods of utter obsession with the game. My favorite game maybe ever

My character I've had since very early 2014. I have leveled every job as high as it goes. Had weird boyfri4nds and sex experiences. Cultish experiences with guilds. Just weird syncs.

I have been on and off with that game for jeez like 6 years now. when shadowbringers was released was about a month before my suicide attempt in August of 2019.

Shadowbringere gutted me in the BEST way. You know, the sync, at that time of my life, I was so empty, so devoid, but the games story was a world I felt I automatically could be and understand and the things that happened just really affected me from that story.

When you battle titania, the fairy primal, I was at the height of just an utterly constant dissociation and confusion and daze of unreality, living in a completely unreal world.

The song you battle the fairy queen to was this perfect manifestation of my whole consciousness done so supremely close that I would sit in my in game house and listen to it on repeat because it made me acutely aware of being lost but also made the despair sort of stupid and hilarious and insane.

I cant describe it. That game is sort of like am obelisk of my history as my old username, because the character I have has been around almost as long as I have been developing the archetype of my own character all these years. So it's like my actual character has become a cyber sigil I'm sure not even vrowley could have dreamed up.

Lemme say: not gonna break down how fucking occultly I informed and illuminati the game is, and don't have the energy as to why the ending of shadowbringers made me start bawling, because the plot was so good , but yeah, fuck, if the occult uses any game it's that one.
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In the year 2029, the world has become interconnected by a vast electronic network that permeates every aspect of life. That same network also becomes a battelfield for Tokyo's Section Nine security force, which has been charged with apprehending the master hacker known only as the Puppet Master. Spearheading the investigation is Major Motoko Kusanagi, who - like many in her department - is a cyborg officer, far more powerful than her human appearance would suggest. And yet as the Puppet Master, who is even capable of hacking human minds, leaves a trail of victims robbed of their memories. Motoko begins to ponder the very nature of her existence: is she purely an artificial construct, or is there more? What, exactly, is the "ghost" - her essence - in her cybernetic "shell"?


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this was the original Ghost in the Shell movie of course....

1996...

dare to imagine, and you never know what may end up being true one day
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is thoth associated with soul in our myths?
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If you can associate thoth with Gabriel...then i would say yes.

Wf
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yes thoth personality possess a different texture
this fits:

"Even today with us as advanced as we think we are almost every manifestation of a actual extraterrestrial civilization today would look almost like magic to us.
Where it has to do with technological electromagnetic systems that interface with coherent thought and organized thought
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.man my huge post was eaten because the system logged me out for inactivity and I forgot to copy before I pressed the button. oh well.

I wanted to mention that there is an archetypal fascination with stories like stranger things which invert the strongest agents of social control and put them at the whims of little girls with psychic powers beyond all the greatest efforts of control. stranger things uses the mk ultra program in the plot and ties it in with psychic powers the father figure agencies are helpless to conceal let alone stop. but the collective longs for evidence that childlike wonder has the power to go toe to toe with the harsh realities the father represents, and thats what stranger things allows people to temporarily believe.

people "want to believe", and the control system of society is actually very easily seduced by its sensitivity to unicorns. the illuminati mystery tradition has one hand trying to dominate the entire universe and another hand trying to open a portal to a transcendent doorway beyond the pillars which will obliterate the control system. they want to set up and use this unicorn but they are also caught in the magnetism of the hunt and seduced by the shadows of the goddess which oppose every father's best efforts to be good hierophants. the control structure of the world and the narratives that bind people to existential emptiness are very vulnerable to the seduction of a script where a woman enchants the ghost of the machine to disclose itself.

the more society becomes repressed and its sexual tensions become banal with the pervasive variety of abundant porn, the mystery of the god and the goddess will become a greater and greater attractor for the masculine figurehead who is bored of every hunt. if a goddess can contain a new force through her sympathy with the world's will, her psychic power energizes and arouses the interest of not the procreative instinct but the transcendent impulse to create something new. the goddess archetype is willing to be prey for vampire or serpent if they are willing to let her blood possess and transform them from within. But otherwise she remains impassive to efforts at obliteration or dominance.

an anomalous psychic force can resist corruption only if it is sincerely an agent of Necessity. for a mortal to persuade the jenii of the future, the first thing it needs is a phrase interesting enough to even get the attention of such forces. the gate to a new age is a new form of consciousness which is self-illuminating if given space to reveal itself. the hunter who tries to erase this force gives it enough information and influence in the matrix that it only gets better and more coherent by being chased. its a diamond but it requires a lot of forebearance and openness to propogate itself in the turbulance of such extreme energies. but the collective will becomes very aware of its echoes and more and more people become able to see it and live its legend themselves.
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Accurate in spots. Skipping around this thread due time constraints. Not a fan of Lucifer under any attribution or disguise. Sensitive to ego propulsion, knowing what she can inflict if she “expresses” herself like others do.
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who are you referring to?
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Those technologies are certainly advancing deep into the territory of mind control and remote control of biological entities. They probably started small on mice and knee high mammals and now can probably do some impressive stuff with human remote control. They aren't going to risk letting that tech get into anyones hands so you can assume that if they are remote controlling humans in public their tech is going to be failsafe and fully protected.
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Those technologies are certainly advancing deep into the territory of mind control and remote control of biological entities. They probably started small on mice and knee high mammals and now can probably do some impressive stuff with human remote control. They aren't going to risk letting that tech get into anyones hands so you can assume that if they are remote controlling humans in public their tech is going to be failsafe and fully protected.
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no doubt about that. I have long since given up trying to get people to pay attention to the things that I say about it. but, because I am what I am, I still collect all the information and put it somewhere public just incase the lone soul wanders in to some insight.
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lol
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There are going to be massive consequences of that change that are already beginning to happen. Some medical specialties are clearly in danger of being replaced, certainly in terms of diagnosis. And there are rather frightening scenarios when you’re talking about leadership. Once it’s demonstrably true that you can have an AI that has far better business judgment, say, what will that do to human leadership?
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realistic psychologist who is a bit flat in his outlook i say
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so to be clear part of the reason I actually made this thread was to alert people to the idea that if you have strong esper capabilities it would be quite prudent to be vigilant in general and maintain an ability, I suppose, to reflect upon the things that you allow to live in close proximity to your core values. I just say that because strong espers are a sort of prize within some circles, and the "fallacy of the normal" makes people generally totally oblivious up until the point they are neck deep contending with strange other things which will, both, make you believe you are completely exceptional, and then knock you down and suck out all your energy until you are a husk. It's good to just be aware it's not worth brushing off.
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Those technologies are certainly advancing deep into the territory of mind control and remote control of biological entities. They probably started small on mice and knee high mammals and now can probably do some impressive stuff with human remote control. They aren't going to risk letting that tech get into anyones hands so you can assume that if they are remote controlling humans in public their tech is going to be failsafe and fully protected.
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no doubt about that. I have long since given up trying to get people to pay attention to the things that I say about it. but, because I am what I am, I still collect all the information and put it somewhere public just incase the lone soul wanders in to some insight.
 Quoting: The Green Lion Ate The Sun


Theyll cover it up and banish the information on search engines so it seems sort of hopeless but what can you do, pretend theres nothing there and be a punching bag?
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Those technologies are certainly advancing deep into the territory of mind control and remote control of biological entities. They probably started small on mice and knee high mammals and now can probably do some impressive stuff with human remote control. They aren't going to risk letting that tech get into anyones hands so you can assume that if they are remote controlling humans in public their tech is going to be failsafe and fully protected.
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no doubt about that. I have long since given up trying to get people to pay attention to the things that I say about it. but, because I am what I am, I still collect all the information and put it somewhere public just incase the lone soul wanders in to some insight.
 Quoting: The Green Lion Ate The Sun


Theyll cover it up and banish the information on search engines so it seems sort of hopeless but what can you do, pretend theres nothing there and be a punching bag?
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Well I'm not sure, if you know what you are searching for than you can find a lot more than most people know with an ordinary google search. I have all sorts of extremely explicit documents about how a lot of this works, but they are too long to expect anyone will actually read.

And, ultimately, whatever you do know or think you know isn't going to give you a true advantage anyway, as if I could do anything about being 30% genetically "INTERNET" and then knowing there are guys who have my information if they want it, there is just no getting around it. All and any of it, if they care to look.

Whether it matters or not, well, it really depends. You can say it doesn't, but if you keep trying to share the documents you got (legally I might add) by being clever with google search it can occasionally become a noticable feature of life
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theyknow thatI knowthat theyknow
youknow?ohyeah

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incidentally, I found a new key phrase tonight, one of those that will actually get you results current to the decade. For what used to be called multiple personality disorder, which was for a long time dismissed completely, has as most know been redefined to dissociative identity disorder.

I was reading some claims that the study of dissociation and the splitting of a personality is still ongoing, but I was skeptical due to all of the dismissal I'd seen that I'd be able to find anything public.

But I did come across what is called "Theory of Structural Dissociation of the Personality (TSDP)" (this is the key phrase).

This linked me to a research article with some very current and very interesting information about it, and for better or worse the very old trauma serves to get the job done model, is in its essence the most effective way to cause severe dissociative splits.

[link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]

It happens all the time with no outside prodding and no handler, and you see something similar in those who are highly disintegrated and only capable of being conscious with certain capacities at a given time.

However, of course, it doesn't really study or postulate that the inevitable chronic dysfunction of someone with severe DID would ever be intentionally mitigated by intentional triggers, externally planted, to determine manually in a sense which part of the personality is conditioned to respond to a given state of mind or circumstance.

It's not only something that would have to manually instigated for each switch, it can with time become a system which is informed by specific triggers and is capable of consistently pulling the right altar depending on that conditioning. While normally fragmenting emotionality entirely to an unconscious domain would have to invite total dissolution, this way, it provides some benefits, although it is still sort of always on the brink of collapse.
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ai is enslaved to theorems


A theorem is a statement that can be demonstrated to be true by accepted mathematical operations and arguments. In general, a theorem is an embodiment of some general principle that makes it part of a larger theory.
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in our 21st century our ai grades our supernatural ability into coherent philosophy to fit individuality in reality


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do you know how fucking hard this book was to find?
the entire google, and the only way to get it is amazon, and the new one is 900?
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do you know how fucking hard this book was to find?
the entire google, and the only way to get it is amazon, and the new one is 900?
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lol


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I’ve encountered them in their play.
They made the mistake of going easy, a couple of them didn’t make it at all.
All I could think of was how many had they so easily destroyed with their ‘knowledge’.
I almost didn’t survive it.
Got psychically smashed, but not all of them were very strong.
They had inside family help until that was nipped in the bud, as was our household observance.
Move to the wrong town into the wrong house and it’s easy for them.

Having someone consider you ‘domesticated ‘ as in settled down isn’t a bad place to be.... no doubt they’ve moved on to other victims.

Interesting thread sister.





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