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John 8:58 John 8:24 - "I am" means "I EXIST" from the Greek - KJV Bible Study

 
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Phrases about Jesus in the New Testament

"God the Son" occurs 0 time in 0 verses in the New Testament in the KJV.

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"the Son of God is God" occurs 0 time in 0 verses in the New Testament in the KJV.

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"I am God" occurs 0 time in 0 verses in the New Testament in the KJV.

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"Jesus is God" occurs 0 time in 0 verses in the New Testament in the KJV.

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"God Jesus" occurs 0 time in 0 verses in the New Testament in the KJV.

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"Son of God" occurs 47 times in 46 verses in the New Testament in the KJV.

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Here is a list of the people in the Bible who claim that Jesus is the Son of God, and then those who claim that he is God the Son. I will keep it simple and not list the verses that claim that Jesus is the Messiah, the Christ, the Son of Man, or the king of Israel. All these titles are synonymous.

Son of God

God Himself refers to Jesus as His Son: Matthew 2:15, 3:17, 17:5, Mk 1:11, 9:7,Luke 9:35

Jesus says that he is the Son of God: Mark 14:61-62, John 3:16, John 3:18, John 9:35, 10:36

The angel Gabriel says Jesus is the Son of God: Luke 1:35

Peter says that Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 16:16

John the Apostle says Jesus is the Son of God: John 20:31, 1 John 3:23, 4:15, 5:5

All the Apostles say Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 14:33, John 6:69

John the Baptist says Jesus is the Son of God: John 1:34

John Mark says Jesus is the Son of God: Mark 1:1

Paul says Jesus is the Son of God: Acts 9:20, Romans 1:4, 1 Corinthians 1:9, 2 Corinthians 1:19, Galatians 2:20, Hebrews 4:14

Nathanael says Jesus is the Son of God: John 1:49

Centurions says Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 27:54, Mark 15:39

Satan says Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 4:3

Demons say Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 8:29, Mark 3:11, 5:7,Luke 4:41, 8:28

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People in the Bible who say Jesus IS "my God".

Thomas

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People in the Bible who say Jesus is "God the Son" OR call Him "God Jesus"

Nobody.
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Jesus' own words in the 4 Gospels, His use of phrases like "My Father", "My God", "the Father", "SENT Me", "the kingdom OF God" etc...tell me, and SHOULD tell other folks exactly who He is.

God Himself would NOT have spoken this way, and those terms, and the ones below, wouldn't even EXIST if Jesus was actually the Father Himself.

What was Jesus called?

"My beloved Son" - by Father God at the Baptism and the Transfiguration.

"the Son OF God" 46 times in the KJV NT
"the Christ" - 19 times in the KJV NT

"Son of the most High God" Mark 5:7
"Son of the Highest" Luke 1:32
"Son of the Father" 2 John 1:3
"Son of the Living God" Matthew 16:16 & John 6:69
"Son of the Blessed" Mark 14:61

"the Messiah" Daniel 9:25
"the Lamb OF God" John 1:29
"Holy One OF God" Mark 1:24
"the Holy One" Acts 3:14
"Prince of life" Acts 3:15


"advocate with the Father" 1 John 2:1
"a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec" Hebrews 5:6
"one mediator between God and men" 1 Timothy 2:5

"the faithful witness" Revelation 1:5
"the first begotten of the dead" Revelation 1:5
"the prince of the kings of the earth" Revelation 1:5

"the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;" Revelation 3:14

These are titles for Jesus....NOT for God the Father Himself.
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Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ,
the Son of the living God.


17 And Jesus answered and said unto
him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona:
for flesh and blood hath not revealed it
unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

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It’s not a matter of interpretation. The passage literally says, in Greek, “our God (theos) and savior Jesus Christ”. Do you believe Peter when he says that?
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


Utter Trinitarian NONSENSE.

'Believe in the SON OF God'.

THAT is the message.

NO verse says to believe that 'Jesus is God'.

It's a manmade doctrine.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

"Salvation is found in no one else and no other name given by which we must be saved"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84247739

Who SENT Jesus? The Father did.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


The Scripture says salvation is only found in Jesus and His Name. Read the Bible. Salvation is ONLY found in God and in HIS Name.
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Jesus NEVER said 'I am God'. ONLY the Father did.

The phrase "I am God" occurs 10 times in the Old Testament in the KJV.

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Isaiah 46:9 Remember the former things of old:

for I am God, and there is none else;

I am God, and there is none like me,


...

WHO is Jesus' God???

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"


John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,


and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God
,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name


.....

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.


.....

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?


.....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,


that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father’s name bear witness about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
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Jesus NEVER said 'I am God'. ONLY the Father did.

The phrase "I am God" occurs 10 times in the Old Testament in the KJV.

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Isaiah 46:9 Remember the former things of old:

for I am God, and there is none else;

I am God, and there is none like me,


...

WHO is Jesus' God???

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"


John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,


and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God
,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name


.....

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.


.....

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?


.....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,


that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life.


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"The Gish gallop /&#712;&#609;&#618;&#643; &#712;&#609;æl&#601;p/ is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments. In essence, it is prioritizing quantity of one's arguments at the expense of quality of said arguments. The term was coined in 1994 by anthropologist Eugenie Scott, who named it after American creationist Duane Gish and argued that Gish used the technique frequently when challenging the scientific fact of evolution.[1][2] It is similar to another debating method called spreading, in which one person speaks extremely fast in an attempt to cause their opponent to fail to respond to all the arguments that have been raised.

During a Gish gallop, a debater confronts an opponent with a rapid series of many specious arguments, half-truths, misrepresentations, and outright lies in a short space of time, which makes it impossible for the opponent to refute all of them within the format of a formal debate.[3][4] Each point raised by the Gish galloper takes considerably more time to refute or fact-check than it did to state in the first place, which is known online as Brandolini's law.[5] The technique wastes an opponent's time and may cast doubt on the opponent's debating ability for an audience unfamiliar with the technique, especially if no independent fact-checking is involved or if the audience has limited knowledge of the topics."

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This is what OP does. It's a falacious form of debating.
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And I'm sorry for having to speak with him but he's too cowardly to answer your questions.
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cheers
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"Our God and Savior Jesus Christ" 2 Peter 1:1
Now you shut your mouth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42314061

14 verses say your interpretation of that verse is WRONG.

Instead, all these 14 verses say...

...'Believe in the SON OF God'.


John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

"Witness verses"

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ,
the Son of the living God.


17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:...


John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

1 Peter 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

1 John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

It’s not a matter of interpretation. The passage literally says, in Greek, “our God (theos) and savior Jesus Christ”. Do you believe Peter when he says that?
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


Utter Trinitarian NONSENSE.

'Believe in the SON OF God'.

THAT is the message.

NO verse says to believe that 'Jesus is God'.

It's a manmade doctrine.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Ah I see - the “message.”

Peter, the rock upon which the church was built, literally said Jesus was God. The message is quite clear.
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30 I and the Father are one.”
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

Johnn 10:36 Say ye of him,

whom the Father hath sanctified,

and sent into the world,


Thou blasphemest; because

I said, I am the Son of God?

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OP, could you please stop copying and pasting from your Word document of Bible quotes? I’m wading through pages of the same stuff.
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

So typical of 'Christian's these days.

You don't teach the Bible. You teach doctrines and how to defend them.

Bible study proves many of your doctrines are wrong.

Ya'all just butthurt.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

You literally have no idea what I believe about Christianity and Christian doctrine. I’m asking you to stop pasting the same quotes repeatedly so this thread can become something other than 20 pages of your Ctrl + V skills.
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

More theologian scholar speak.

You don't like to argue scriptures that prove you wrong so you bitch and whine about them wnen they get posted.

Scripture is right.

You're nanmade doctrines are not.
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I’ve been arguing with you in many other posts. Asking you to stop pasting the same passages repeatedly is not scholar speak.
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Utter Trinitarian NONSENSE.

'Believe in the SON OF God'.

THAT is the message.

NO verse says to believe that 'Jesus is God'.

It's a manmade doctrine.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Ah I see - the “message.”

Peter, the rock upon which the church was built, literally said Jesus was God. The message is quite clear.
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

No he didn't.

He said

1. Great God - that's the Father.
2. Savior - Jesus

For reference....

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said,

Thou art the Christ,

the Son of the living God.


17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,

Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:

for flesh and blood hath not revealed

it unto thee, but my Father


which is in heaven.

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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They wanted to stone him because he was implying he is God. but it wasnt his time yet.
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Exactly.
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I’ve been arguing with you in many other posts. Asking you to stop pasting the same passages repeatedly is not scholar speak.
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

I'll repeat Bible verses in MY topic as many times as I wish.

Bible verses aren't spam.

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said,

Thou art the Christ,

the Son of the living God.


17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,

Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:

for flesh and blood hath not revealed

it unto thee, but my Father


which is in heaven.

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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30 I and the Father are one.”
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

Johnn 10:36 Say ye of him,

whom the Father hath sanctified,

and sent into the world,


Thou blasphemest; because

I said, I am the Son of God?

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Quoting another passage does not change the truth of Jesus’ own words.
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7ey don't exist.
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NO verse says to believe that 'Jesus is God'.

It's a manmade doctrine.


Romans 10:13
for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
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Exactly.
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1. You believe...

"Holy Spirit Jesus impregnated Mary with Himself"???


2. At The Baptism of Jesus, you believe...

"Holy Spirit God Jesus spoke from heaven...

...then Holy Spirit Jesus landed on his own shoulder...

...filled himself WITH himslef...

...then LED himself into the wilderness"???



3. You believe...

"Holy Spirit Jesus died on the Cross"??


4. You believe...

"Holy Spirit Jesus esurrected Himself"????


5. On the Day of Pentecost, you believe...

"And Holy Spirit Jesus danced on the heads of the Apostles and disciples on the day of Pentecost"???


6. You believe...

"God can die"????


7. You believe...

"God Jesus is first born of the dead.".


8. You believe...

"God is a spirit - who has blood".


9. You believe...

"Holy Spirit Jesus descended FROM Heaven in a 'physical body"???


10.. You believe...

"Bible verses are SPAM when other people post them"???


11.. You believe...

"God has a mother."???


12. You believe....

'God Jesus descended as a man into Mary's womb'
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30 I and the Father are one.”
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

Johnn 10:36 Say ye of him,

whom the Father hath sanctified,

and sent into the world,


Thou blasphemest; because

I said, I am the Son of God?

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Quoting another passage does not change the truth of Jesus’ own words.
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


He thinks he can use certain verses to nullify certain other he denies, rather then training his mind to agree with verses which may seem to contradict.
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30 I and the Father are one.”
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

Johnn 10:36 Say ye of him,

whom the Father hath sanctified,

and sent into the world,


Thou blasphemest; because

I said, I am the Son of God?

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Quoting another passage does not change the truth of Jesus’ own words.
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

It's 6 verses away you dumbass.

Thses are ALL Jesus' words.

WHO is Jesus' God???

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"


John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,


and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God
,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name


.....

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.


.....

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?


.....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,


that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life.

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Utter Trinitarian NONSENSE.

'Believe in the SON OF God'.

THAT is the message.

NO verse says to believe that 'Jesus is God'.

It's a manmade doctrine.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Ah I see - the “message.”

Peter, the rock upon which the church was built, literally said Jesus was God. The message is quite clear.
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

No he didn't.

He said

1. Great God - that's the Father.
2. Savior - Jesus

For reference....

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said,

Thou art the Christ,

the Son of the living God.


17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,

Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:

for flesh and blood hath not revealed

it unto thee, but my Father


which is in heaven.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Yes he did.

“Symeon Petros (Simon Peter) doulos (a slave) kai (and) apostolos (Apostle) Iesou Christou (of Jesus Christ) tois isotimon hemin (to those equal in honors to us) lachousin (who have) pistin (a belief) en dikaiosyne (in the righteousness) tou theou hemon (of our god) kai (and) soteros (savior) Iesou Christou (Jesus Christ).”
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30 I and the Father are one.”
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

Johnn 10:36 Say ye of him,

whom the Father hath sanctified,

and sent into the world,


Thou blasphemest; because

I said, I am the Son of God?

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Quoting another passage does not change the truth of Jesus’ own words.
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

It's 6 verses away you dumbass.

Thses are ALL Jesus' words.

WHO is Jesus' God???

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"


John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,


and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God
,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name


.....

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.


.....

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?


.....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,


that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Did it cross your mind that all the passages you cite might be compatible with the divinity of Jesus? And even with the Trinity?
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Utter Trinitarian NONSENSE.

'Believe in the SON OF God'.

THAT is the message.

NO verse says to believe that 'Jesus is God'.

It's a manmade doctrine.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Ah I see - the “message.”

Peter, the rock upon which the church was built, literally said Jesus was God. The message is quite clear.
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

No he didn't.

He said

1. Great God - that's the Father.
2. Savior - Jesus
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Only GOD is our savior.

Read the BIBLE.

Hosea 13:4
there is no savior besides Me.
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NO verse says to believe that 'Jesus is God'.

It's a manmade doctrine.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Romans 10:13
for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
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1. Great God - that's the Father.
2. Savior - Jesus
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Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior.
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2. Savior - Jesus
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Isaiah 45:21
Declare what is to be, present it— let them take counsel together. Who foretold this long ago, who declared it from the distant past? Was it not I, the LORD? And there is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but me.
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Romans 10:13
for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
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This verse says you must believe Jesus is God to be saved.
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...

Johnn 10:36 Say ye of him,

whom the Father hath sanctified,

and sent into the world,


Thou blasphemest; because

I said, I am the Son of God?

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Quoting another passage does not change the truth of Jesus’ own words.
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

It's 6 verses away you dumbass.

Thses are ALL Jesus' words.

WHO is Jesus' God???

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"


John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,


and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God
,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name


.....

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.


.....

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?


.....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,


that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Did it cross your mind that all the passages you cite might be compatible with the divinity of Jesus? And even with the Trinity?
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind

Hogwash.

God doesn't proclaim 'my God'.

The SON of God proclaims it.

So... Father God SENT "God Jesus"? John 12:49-50

So... Father God is GREATER than God Jesus? John 14:28 & John 10:29

So... God Jesus does ONLY the Father God's Will? John 6:37-39

So....God Jesus PRAYS to Father God? Matthew 26:36-42, Mark 14:32-39 & John 17

So...God Jesus says ONLY what Father God has said? John 12:49-50

So...God Jesus learned / does as Father God has showed Him? John 5:19 & John 8:28

So...God Jesus gives THANKS to Father God? Luke 10:21 & John 11:41

So...God Jesus doesn't KNOW when God Jesus will return...ONLY Father God KNOWS? Matthew 24:36

So....od Jesus says to ask Father God "in MY name"? John 14:13

So...God Jesus goes to sit at Father God's right hand? Matthew 26:64 Mark 16:19

So...God Jesus ASCENDs to Father God, "MY GOD and YOUR GOD"? John 20:17

So... Father God has given God Jesus authority? Matthew 28:18

So... God Jesus says only Father God is good? Luke 18:19
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Re: John 8:58 John 8:24 - "I am" means "I EXIST" from the Greek - KJV Bible Study


Utter Trinitarian NONSENSE.

'Believe in the SON OF God'.

THAT is the message.

NO verse says to believe that 'Jesus is God'.

It's a manmade doctrine.

Peter said...

1. Great God - that's the Father.
2. Savior - Jesus

For reference....

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said,

Thou art the Christ,

the Son of the living God.


17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,

Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:

for flesh and blood hath not revealed

it unto thee, but my Father


which is in heaven.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Yes he did.

“Symeon Petros (Simon Peter) doulos (a slave) kai (and) apostolos (Apostle) Iesou Christou (of Jesus Christ) tois isotimon hemin (to those equal in honors to us) lachousin (who have) pistin (a belief) en dikaiosyne (in the righteousness) tou theou hemon (of our god) kai (and) soteros (savior) Iesou Christou (Jesus Christ).”
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


1 Peter 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.





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