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Ragnarok Maeg Thread (Update: 80,000 Russian Troops still on Ukraine's Border p.81)

 
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If a full scale war starts out in Ukraine they might loose very fast because they lack good air defence systems they might have good training now and all the anti tank rockets but if you dont control the skies thats a huge problem they will be on constant retreat like what we seen in syria.
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Now Ukraine lives better than Russia. In Ukraine, salaries are higher, taxes are lower, we retire 10 years earlier. We have freedom. There is no freedom in Russia and Belarus, it is a prison. In Russia there is a law, if you criticize Putin, then for this article they give a prison term more than for the murder of a person. For a funny picture about the government, the same prison term.
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You are right minimal salary in ukraine is 197 euros while in russia its 135 euros a month. Might not sound alot but its a huge progress
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Question that needs to be asked; 'How many Ukrainians are working at minimum wage vs how many Russians??

That is critical to the prosperity of a nation. Not minimum wages!!



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 Quoting: Tim the Enchanter


I think Americans would generally disagree that minimum wage is a good measure of income in a country.



But if people persist in this off-topic discussion I may remove posts or posters.

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Starting January 1st 2021, the gross minimum wage for a Ukrainian citizen amounts UAH 6000, and UAH 6500 from December 1st 2021.
Which ls 215 dollars than later this year its going to be 233 dollars.

Minimum Wages in Russia increased to 12792 RUB/Month in 2021 from 12130 RUB/Month in 2020.

Which is 168 dollars..

The guy wasnt wrong
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Min. wage is not average income.
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Than again you cant really calculate the average income. Because in russia as well in ukraine there is huge wealth gaps.. there are no middle class really with so many oligarchs. So the minimum wage would help tons of people.
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OK, but this is so far from the topic of this thread.



Yes, the min. wage in Ukraine may be higher than the minimum wage in Russia, but what that has to do with the price of tea in China...
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It's called 'diversion'. Must be a Ukrainian trying to get our mind off the ass kicking Ukraine is about to get.

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Min. wage is not average income.
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Than again you cant really calculate the average income. Because in russia as well in ukraine there is huge wealth gaps.. there are no middle class really with so many oligarchs. So the minimum wage would help tons of people.
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OK, but this is so far from the topic of this thread.



Yes, the min. wage in Ukraine may be higher than the minimum wage in Russia, but what that has to do with the price of tea in China...
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum



It's called 'diversion'. Must be a Ukrainian trying to get our mind off the ass kicking Ukraine is about to get.

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It is becoming very distracting.


Whatever the motive.
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Nord Stream 2 announced the activity of foreign vessels in the construction area of Nord Stream 2

The company noted that the actions of the courts are provocative and may damage the gas pipeline

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Two E6's still up over the CONUS


One off the coast of NorCal
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Two E6's still up over the CONUS


One off the coast of NorCal
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Other is over MO
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Translation?
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Translation?
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Two EAM's in the last hour.

Probably related to the two E6 doomsday planes.


Doom scale: maybe 2 out of 8.

Imma have another coffee and a cigarette.

BRB
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Two E6's still up over the CONUS


One off the coast of NorCal
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Other is over MO
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


It's real Interesting how there seems to be a concerted effort going on to muddy the waters and bury the actual conflict information in inane bullshit that's only tangentially related...

Which definitely isn't a known tactic information warfare types use to hide obfuscate and generally make good information too time consuming and difficult to find for the attention spans of average people or anything.

I've been sorta on the fence about when or if this thing will kick off up to even a few hours ago.

But now that the bury brigade is out in force trying to throw people off the scent and send them chasing down rabbit holes, I do believe that we're getting pretty close to the start of whatever is planned.

From past experience it seems like this always happens at around the 12-24 hours to jumpoff time in order to have many if not most people who are actively watching for stuff distracted and slower to catch new, time sensitive, and just plain sensitive developments that they don't necessarily want being shared.

It seems like this happens specifically so that they can scrub anything that pops up that wasn't supposed to get out quickly and quietly enough that very few people see it much less manage to grab and save proof that they did in order to prevent those things from being widely shared/known once all eyes are on the situation.
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 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Translation?
 Quoting: LivingLight


Two EAM's in the last hour.

Probably related to the two E6 doomsday planes.


Doom scale: maybe 2 out of 8.

Imma have another coffee and a cigarette.

BRB
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


10/4
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Two E6's still up over the CONUS


One off the coast of NorCal
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Other is over MO
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


It's real Interesting how there seems to be a concerted effort going on to muddy the waters and bury the actual conflict information in inane bullshit that's only tangentially related...

Which definitely isn't a known tactic information warfare types use to hide obfuscate and generally make good information too time consuming and difficult to find for the attention spans of average people or anything.

I've been sorta on the fence about when or if this thing will kick off up to even a few hours ago.

But now that the bury brigade is out in force trying to throw people off the scent and send them chasing down rabbit holes, I do believe that we're getting pretty close to the start of whatever is planned.

From past experience it seems like this always happens at around the 12-24 hours to jumpoff time in order to have many if not most people who are actively watching for stuff distracted and slower to catch new, time sensitive, and just plain sensitive developments that they don't necessarily want being shared.

It seems like this happens specifically so that they can scrub anything that pops up that wasn't supposed to get out quickly and quietly enough that very few people see it much less manage to grab and save proof that they did in order to prevent those things from being widely shared/known once all eyes are on the situation.
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Thanks for that.

I sometimes wonder what kind of information might be available in deep web forums/websites.
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Two E6's still up over the CONUS


One off the coast of NorCal
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Other is over MO
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


It's real Interesting how there seems to be a concerted effort going on to muddy the waters and bury the actual conflict information in inane bullshit that's only tangentially related...

Which definitely isn't a known tactic information warfare types use to hide obfuscate and generally make good information too time consuming and difficult to find for the attention spans of average people or anything.

I've been sorta on the fence about when or if this thing will kick off up to even a few hours ago.

But now that the bury brigade is out in force trying to throw people off the scent and send them chasing down rabbit holes, I do believe that we're getting pretty close to the start of whatever is planned.

From past experience it seems like this always happens at around the 12-24 hours to jumpoff time in order to have many if not most people who are actively watching for stuff distracted and slower to catch new, time sensitive, and just plain sensitive developments that they don't necessarily want being shared.

It seems like this happens specifically so that they can scrub anything that pops up that wasn't supposed to get out quickly and quietly enough that very few people see it much less manage to grab and save proof that they did in order to prevent those things from being widely shared/known once all eyes are on the situation.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


Thanks for that.

I sometimes wonder what kind of information might be available in deep web forums/websites.
 Quoting: LivingLight


Maybe stuff I don't want to see.


Sometimes things are too dark and negative even for me -- and I think I have a high tolerance.
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Other is over MO
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


It's real Interesting how there seems to be a concerted effort going on to muddy the waters and bury the actual conflict information in inane bullshit that's only tangentially related...

Which definitely isn't a known tactic information warfare types use to hide obfuscate and generally make good information too time consuming and difficult to find for the attention spans of average people or anything.

I've been sorta on the fence about when or if this thing will kick off up to even a few hours ago.

But now that the bury brigade is out in force trying to throw people off the scent and send them chasing down rabbit holes, I do believe that we're getting pretty close to the start of whatever is planned.

From past experience it seems like this always happens at around the 12-24 hours to jumpoff time in order to have many if not most people who are actively watching for stuff distracted and slower to catch new, time sensitive, and just plain sensitive developments that they don't necessarily want being shared.

It seems like this happens specifically so that they can scrub anything that pops up that wasn't supposed to get out quickly and quietly enough that very few people see it much less manage to grab and save proof that they did in order to prevent those things from being widely shared/known once all eyes are on the situation.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


Thanks for that.

I sometimes wonder what kind of information might be available in deep web forums/websites.
 Quoting: LivingLight


Maybe stuff I don't want to see.


Sometimes things are too dark and negative even for me -- and I think I have a high tolerance.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Yeah. I relate.

I think gold exists in the deep web, you just need the proper sites.
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Interesting...

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Three E6's, one U2 and one E3 over the CONUS on ads-b right now
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GRADs flying?!?!? Finally! Gotta go grab the AR and some popcorn. Brb

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GRADs flying?!?!? Finally! Gotta go grab the AR and some popcorn. Brb
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Lots of helicopters flying over Crimea.

Apparently lots of recon drones from UKR.

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sukablyat

GRADs flying?!?!? Finally! Gotta go grab the AR and some popcorn. Brb
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Lots of helicopters flying over Crimea.

Apparently lots of recon drones from UKR.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Some brave soul in Donbas needs to climb a church steeple and set up a live feed for posterity.
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sukablyat

GRADs flying?!?!? Finally! Gotta go grab the AR and some popcorn. Brb
 Quoting: Gummedchromeroller


Lots of helicopters flying over Crimea.

Apparently lots of recon drones from UKR.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Some brave soul in Donbas needs to climb a church steeple and set up a live feed for posterity.
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That would be epic.
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i dont know if ukranians realise what will hit them

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Now Ukraine lives better than Russia. In Ukraine, salaries are higher, taxes are lower, we retire 10 years earlier. We have freedom. There is no freedom in Russia and Belarus, it is a prison. In Russia there is a law, if you criticize Putin, then for this article they give a prison term more than for the murder of a person. For a funny picture about the government, the same prison term.
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Your assessment of Russia and Putin is accurate. I've been saying all along, he's a ruthless communist dictator. People are so easily fooled by his "let's be friends" tactics.





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