The pre-tribulation doctrine is a lie.

The message of this video is "we all deserve to go to hell." The whole thing is just made up.

This is not a holy thread.. it is fable. I made my statement of Truth and I will not visit to post again.

POSTMIL?!?!?!?!?!

I sincerely hope you're joking.....

There will be NO need for rapture AFTER the Tribulation AND AFTER the 1,000 yr millenial reign.

We will all then enter heaven and sit at the Bride & Groom's wedding feast.

the 1000 year reign has started... 2 years and 5 days ago tomorrow. I think I posted that above.

you ones have some really screwed up stuff around this.. I have heard you get raptured first.. and then you get to come back to earth to reign with Christ.. How will that be done... you all wanta incarnate as babies again or what... There is some ODD stuff going on these BeLIEfs

Because one is meant for deception. Which one leads people to hell?

You must not have watched the same video I did. But the Bible does say we have all fallen short. Why else would we need Jesus?

I thought you said you were leaving.

well now and then I forget which thread I am in..or don't read the title.. sorry. But if I forget as i guess I just did.. you are going to get the truth anyway. Your religion meaning Christianity in general if full of sill irrational beliefs that are not possible:hugs 1:

Double post.

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And after the parables Christ began to speak plainly to his disciples and proceeded to say immediately after the tribulation the angles gather his elect.

Matt 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given

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For those of you who would like to know more about the Rapture here are some interesting and well written Chick illustrated tracts on this important subject.

WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

HERE HE COMES!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

LETS FLY AWAY!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

THINGS TO COME?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

You cannot prove it's a lie in a simple video with no rebuttal. Plus academics, hillbilly's have been user their finer points either way.

1 Corinthians 13:12

“For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.”

Just in time, I was eyeing my proteins with suspicion!

Read the words from Christ.

Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

Mar 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

I find it funny the only thing pre-tribbers can post is red karma lacking scripture to support their position.

It's already the tribulation for a lot of people.

Wrong. How many times did Jesus warn YOU "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come."? You're saying this statement isn't true with all of your Bible twisting.

Are you equating tbe day of the Lord with the rapture? Good so does post trib/prewrath.

1st the trib and then the rapture.

Interesting film, not quite sure what to make of it but never has Beethoven's 7th been used so effectively.

Rubbish we have been clearly warned that the Rapture can happen at any time, people who listen to the likes of you are in great danger of being left behind, because they where not right with the Lord.
Here is a great video from Melissa of Midnight Hour Oil Ministries. In it she sets out clearly, logically and truthfully why there will be a Pre-Tribulation Rapture. If you are at all interested in the salvation of your soul it would be well worth a little of your time to watch this. [link to youtu.be (secure)]

By all means do not listen to me but do listen to Christ.

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

Mar 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

How do YOU know Christ ever said this? and what and where is the uttermost post of earth and heaven?

How will the sun be darkened? Should that happen.. a HUGE craft will block the sun..one bigger that moon.. it will be a eclipse of sorts..

The angels that would gather are craft. and if there are elect from one end of heaven to the other why does he have to gather those in heave.. PEOPLE this crap.. READ IT

Lol. And here you are again. Lol.

I am sorry I am normally unable to respond to you. I do not respond to urantia messages.

The IGNORE button works wonders for me!

Go ahead and use it.. I have earned the "honor" of being the most ignored person ever on GLP
:KD most ignored :

Let's compare what Paul says to what Jesus says.

See how these verses are ALL the same event. They compare what Paul said to what Jesus said.

1. Notice that Verses 16 & 17 are pretty much EXACTLY what Jesus says in the Gospel descriptions.


1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all nopes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

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2. Then notice how well Paul's verses 15 & 17 match....


1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

That's what annoys me about it too.
It frustrates me because part of me wants to believe it but part of me doesn't. I'm like I hope for it. But also prepared for if it doesn't.
I do wonder about that point too. Won't people expecting to be outta here unknowingly accept the mark?
I do find many believers disinterested in end times mark of the beast.
And why would they be interested if they've been taught not to worry about it.

That's exactly what is happening. My normie christian friends have already taken the vax. Not even questioning if it could be the mark.

They love their earthly life more than anything and want to get back to "normal". Even if the vax is not the mark... I can see them doing the same thing for the mark.

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