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Rural Trump Voters Already Live in the Safe, Tolerant Utopia Leftists Claim to Want

 
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Don't forget folks, Biden is right now working on destroying suburbia and probably rural areas too. He's resurrected the old Obama plan of FEDERALIZING HOUSING ZONING LAWS to eliminate single family housing and bring in multi-unit housings....also known as PROJECTS.

I don't particularly mind if a black family move into the neighborhood in a single family house (although I have to admit that since George Floyd/BLM I have become more inclined to segregationism) but I don't want to live near a PROJECT.

And it's coming.
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Are liberal entities like a San Francisco, Illinois or Silicon Valley somehow more wonderful and more beautiful because they're also very "progressive?"
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Ask all the people who complain about living in Metro Chicago (where they all have reasonably high paying jobs) why they don't just relocate to somewhere around Carbondale, and they'll talk about how boring and flat and uninteresting it is because that's what rural america is, by and large. Flat, boring, uninteresting, far from everything.

Is the education system more wonderful and more beautiful because it's way more "progressive" today than it was decades ago?


Where do you think you're going to find your kids getting better math instruction: an area where the average household income is 6 figures or an area where the average household income hovers around the poverty line?
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You should stick with the city.
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I do because I want to have a job that isn't minimum wage retail or staffing a fast food restaurant near a highway exit ramp.
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Lol I know rednecks making six figures doing vital jobs like concrete electric plumbing. Live in gods country. Even the people of color in my area would t move to city shitholes because we all get along just fine without the intrusion of liberal filthy psychology.
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As someone who lives in Hickory, I can attest to the truth of the article.
But as the video on Dan B's podcast mentioned couple of week ago, libs, no matter how and what you show them will not believe.
They are immune to the facts. Therein lies the problem.
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Wait, what, here?

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

That's your version of rural?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79627370


Yeah.
I am 40 miles south of Boone. Yes, while I live 40 miles NW of Charlotte, going pretty much in other direction is rural.
But, I will state, having lived near Charlotte for the past 40 yrs,it has declined because many, and I mean many, individuals have moved south and brought their stupid ideas with them.
In fact Tucker Carlson mentioned last night how this is happening exponentially in the past yr here and other states.
They leave their states because of decline but brought their policies.
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What is the average home price?
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NC 230K. My area 190K
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Lol I know rednecks making six figures doing vital jobs like concrete electric plumbing. Live in gods country. Even the people of color in my area would t move to city shitholes because we all get along just fine without the intrusion of liberal filthy psychology.
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Yeah, someone's putting lift kits on pickups. I don't work in the trades (and specifically trades that have relevance to rural places/businesses), so why would I move somewhere that the only options for significant income are that and sales of equipment/trucks? That would be idiotic of me.
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If I had to boil down the political wisdom I’ve learned over four decades of observing, studying, writing, and debating, it would be this…

Life in Rural America (which is where Republican Trump voters live and govern), is clean, safe and racially tolerant. Most places in America where life is dirty, polluted, dangerous, violent, and plagued with racial hate and race riots, are cities that are almost exclusively populated by and governed by Democrats.

Outside of these Democrat-run cities, America is peaceful, safe, clean, and racially tolerant.
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LOL, the only "rural" areas that are remotely decent to live in are ones which are within driving distance of cities where the population generally ends up working. I've driven through half the US counties. Much of rural America is a dump where the only grocery store is a Dollar General in a dilapidated downtown where much of the commercial real estate has either been abandoned or consists of nothing but antique shops and bars and it's pure guess work if one of the endless abandoned homes is a meth house or simply a farm let go fallow. US Census checks out on this too, since those places constantly see an outflow of people as there aren't any jobs and no future hope of them.
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Stop lying...You've never been out of your parents' basement.
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Where do you think you're going to find your kids getting better math instruction: an area where the average household income is 6 figures or an area where the average household income hovers around the poverty line?
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You're mixing demographics with politics.

Although if you admit that parts of a society are more skilled or gifted ("white supremacy!" in Silicon Valley), and that all the money and "progressivism" in the world will not offset a lack of good demographics, I can't argue with you.

But with all things being equal, the idiocy of social, political liberalism makes a bad situation even worse.

Inner-city schools would be shaky and non-ideal even if they were dominated by conservative or rightwing people and policies. But with decades of liberalism or leftism throughout public education, a bad situation is even worse.

Liberalism is anything but wonderful and beautiful. Anything but.
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A fake war of rural vs. urban is exactly what TPTB want.

Don't buy into the bullshit.

Rural life and city life have different things to offer, and depending on who you are and what lifestyle you enjoy you'll probably end up appreciating one more than the other.

But make no mistake the people in each part of the country are getting equally fucked over.
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If I had to boil down the political wisdom I’ve learned over four decades of observing, studying, writing, and debating, it would be this…

Life in Rural America (which is where Republican Trump voters live and govern), is clean, safe and racially tolerant. Most places in America where life is dirty, polluted, dangerous, violent, and plagued with racial hate and race riots, are cities that are almost exclusively populated by and governed by Democrats.

Outside of these Democrat-run cities, America is peaceful, safe, clean, and racially tolerant.
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LOL, the only "rural" areas that are remotely decent to live in are ones which are within driving distance of cities where the population generally ends up working. I've driven through half the US counties. Much of rural America is a dump where the only grocery store is a Dollar General in a dilapidated downtown where much of the commercial real estate has either been abandoned or consists of nothing but antique shops and bars and it's pure guess work if one of the endless abandoned homes is a meth house or simply a farm let go fallow. US Census checks out on this too, since those places constantly see an outflow of people as there aren't any jobs and no future hope of them.
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Stop lying...You've never been out of your parents' basement.
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I've lived in both rural and city environments.

There are absolutely shithole rural areas as much as there are shithole urban areas.

Stop lying to YOURself and get out and see the world some.
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Imagine thinking a shit hole with no public maintenance festering with rednecks and illegals is a utopia. Hold on gonna go outside and drive down my street that has 57 potholes that have been there since 2005 and head down to my local ace hardware to observe some illegals there buying nothing but candy.
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Much of what you say is true, but if you can find a way to support yourself, those dumps are still far better places to live and raise kids in. Those places are also overwhelmingly white, and in the end that almost the only thing that matters.
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I have no interest in picking fruit for a living or being the clerk at an ACE Hardware/Rural King. I grew up in a semi-rural suburb and all the kids that stayed got into heroin and meth because there wasn't anything else to do and no meaningful jobs. If that's a "far better place" than where I live and it's high end public schools that the kids I don't have could walk to from the house instead of riding a bus for a half hour, then I guess we're pretty far off in terms of defining what good is.
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According to your criteria in order for someone to live in a rural area then they must live like Daniel Boone.

A smaller city and its locale is rural. Virtually every county has a county seat(town) that is the main hub.

Many people live in one area but travel to work in a different one. A lot of things in these rural areas (such as small towns) must be maintained or constructed. There are hospitals with staff located in small cities all over the place and those hospitals must be supplied and maintained. Every structure and road must be built because they don't magically appear and people must repair/maintain them (plumbers/electricians/carpenters).

Large cities and some smaller ones have industries which tend to be supported by other industries in smaller towns.

The economic prosperity of an area requires some sort of wellspring and that could be something random, local, or in a nearby metro area.

The variety of occupations are not going to be that diverse but that will depend upon each locale.

There are a lot of rural (small town) areas where high paying jobs are to be found that also have a low cost of living. Additionally, people in the medical field can work in hospitals virtually anywhere. The same applies to many other occupations, especially ones which require travel.
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Zero race relation problems in my small town in NC.

Drive into the big city though, tons of racist white liberals and blacks they encourage to be racist.

It's weird how the scenery changes to dramatically, and how misled people in the city are.

I have intelligent black cattle farmers in my area and they can't stand leftists.
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I've lived in both rural and city environments.

There are absolutely shithole rural areas as much as there are shithole urban areas.

Stop lying to YOURself and get out and see the world some.
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Yep, but the percentage or degree of shittiness varies from place to place. Liberal-leftwing communities foster even more shittiness than conservative communities do.

However, there are some good or negative aspects of any place that go beyond politics. But generally there are fewer instances where a person can say, "this town wouldn't be so screwed up if it were more liberal" versus "this town wouldn't be so screwed up if it were more conservative."

This same thing applies to not just cities or towns but entire states too. Also to Hollywood and pro-sports. To education and corporations. To just about everything out there.

Liberals and leftism are to a society what SARS-CoV-2 is to human health.
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Any of you morons ever heard of commuting?
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This post is ridiculous and OP should be fucking ashamed.

Rural = good and City = bad. That's the argument you're making, right?

If that's your "political wisdom" from over 4 decades of "observing" (whatever that means), you haven't been outside very much.

There are plenty of issues with rural areas. Lack of access to resources (legal, medical, educational) being chief among those. Environmental contamination is extreme in certain rural areas with various polluting industries, including mining, plating, fracking, factory farming, etc.


Cities are overly expensive, and have the issues you noted - crime and pollution. Do you even have a solution to environmental issues in cities? What is that? Easy to complain about something without proposing a solution, isn't it? Any method of resolving environmental problems in cities is going to require more of the big bad REGULATION that so many seem to hate so much.

But even most cities are more or less decent enough to live in with the exception of some problem areas and neighborhoods. As is the case with rural areas.

All of this to say = your distinction is a false one. Rural areas are plagued with problems of their own, some similar to those experienced by cities and some not.

But sure, just falsely divide the rural and the cities against each other. Sure, just pit poor rubes against other poor rubes because why not? Easier than pointing out the very real problems with how EVERYONE, rural or city, is getting fucked over.
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Here’s a list of 2020’s top ten most dangerous cities per capita (violent crime incidents per 100,000 residents) and which party runs those cities… Spoiler alert: Democrats.

Detroit – 1,965 per 100,000 – Democrats have run Detroit since 1962
St. Louis – 1,927 per 100,000 – Democrats have run St. Louis since 1949
Memphis – 1,901 per 100,000 – Democrats have run Memphis since 1992
Baltimore – 1,859 per 100,000 – Democrats have run Baltimore since 1967
Springfield (MO) – 1,519 per 100,000 – mayoral office is non-partisan, but the city is left-leaning
Little Rock – 1,517 per 100,000 – ruled by Democrats for decades
Cleveland – 1,517 per 100,000 – Ruled by Democrats since 1990
Stockton – 1,397 per 100,000 – Alternates between GOP and Dem mayors.
Albuquerque – 1,352 per 100,000 – One Republican since 1985
Milwaukee – 1,332 per 100,000 – Only Socialist and Democrat mayors since 1906
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Wait, what, here?

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

That's your version of rural?
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Yeah.
I am 40 miles south of Boone. Yes, while I live 40 miles NW of Charlotte, going pretty much in other direction is rural.
But, I will state, having lived near Charlotte for the past 40 yrs,it has declined because many, and I mean many, individuals have moved south and brought their stupid ideas with them.
In fact Tucker Carlson mentioned last night how this is happening exponentially in the past yr here and other states.
They leave their states because of decline but brought their policies.
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What is the average home price?
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NC 230K. My area 190K
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Can I buy one quarter of your house?
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Stop lying...You've never been out of your parents' basement.
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It would be convenient for you if that were true. Unfortunately I've taken the Dixie Hightway through the state in your screen name. Great scenery interspersed with Dollar Generals, antique stores, and the occasional community of rusted out and desperate looking trailer homes.
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This post is ridiculous and OP should be fucking ashamed.

Rural = good and City = bad. That's the argument you're making, right?

If that's your "political wisdom" from over 4 decades of "observing" (whatever that means), you haven't been outside very much.

There are plenty of issues with rural areas. Lack of access to resources (legal, medical, educational) being chief among those. Environmental contamination is extreme in certain rural areas with various polluting industries, including mining, plating, fracking, factory farming, etc.


Cities are overly expensive, and have the issues you noted - crime and pollution. Do you even have a solution to environmental issues in cities? What is that? Easy to complain about something without proposing a solution, isn't it? Any method of resolving environmental problems in cities is going to require more of the big bad REGULATION that so many seem to hate so much.

But even most cities are more or less decent enough to live in with the exception of some problem areas and neighborhoods. As is the case with rural areas.

All of this to say = your distinction is a false one. Rural areas are plagued with problems of their own, some similar to those experienced by cities and some not.

But sure, just falsely divide the rural and the cities against each other. Sure, just pit poor rubes against other poor rubes because why not? Easier than pointing out the very real problems with how EVERYONE, rural or city, is getting fucked over.
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You make a good argument but here is my distinction. When an EMP hits, dollar collapses, whatever calamity for worst case scenario you can conjure...do you want to be in a city or in the country?
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This post is ridiculous and OP should be fucking ashamed.

Rural = good and City = bad. That's the argument you're making, right?

If that's your "political wisdom" from over 4 decades of "observing" (whatever that means), you haven't been outside very much.

There are plenty of issues with rural areas. Lack of access to resources (legal, medical, educational) being chief among those. Environmental contamination is extreme in certain rural areas with various polluting industries, including mining, plating, fracking, factory farming, etc.


Cities are overly expensive, and have the issues you noted - crime and pollution. Do you even have a solution to environmental issues in cities? What is that? Easy to complain about something without proposing a solution, isn't it? Any method of resolving environmental problems in cities is going to require more of the big bad REGULATION that so many seem to hate so much.

But even most cities are more or less decent enough to live in with the exception of some problem areas and neighborhoods. As is the case with rural areas.

All of this to say = your distinction is a false one. Rural areas are plagued with problems of their own, some similar to those experienced by cities and some not.

But sure, just falsely divide the rural and the cities against each other. Sure, just pit poor rubes against other poor rubes because why not? Easier than pointing out the very real problems with how EVERYONE, rural or city, is getting fucked over.
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Adding to this to say rural areas also have a lack of meaningful job opportunities as well.
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Cities are overly expensive, and have the issues you noted - crime and pollution. Do you even have a solution to environmental issues in cities? What is that? Easy to complain about something without proposing a solution, isn't it? Any method of resolving environmental problems in cities is going to require more of the big bad REGULATION that so many seem to hate so much.
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It figures you'd focus on so-called environmentalism as the major flaw of urban America.

Although lots of cars do offset cleaner air, most of the brownness of cities' air quality of years ago (such as in LA) has been largely corrected.

Now that idiotic liberals, however, are politically masturbating in order to achieve a no-C02, no-"climate-change" orgasm, the environmentalism of the past has become a fetish in 2021 and is not solvable in urban America.
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This post is ridiculous and OP should be fucking ashamed.

Rural = good and City = bad. That's the argument you're making, right?

If that's your "political wisdom" from over 4 decades of "observing" (whatever that means), you haven't been outside very much.

There are plenty of issues with rural areas. Lack of access to resources (legal, medical, educational) being chief among those. Environmental contamination is extreme in certain rural areas with various polluting industries, including mining, plating, fracking, factory farming, etc.


Cities are overly expensive, and have the issues you noted - crime and pollution. Do you even have a solution to environmental issues in cities? What is that? Easy to complain about something without proposing a solution, isn't it? Any method of resolving environmental problems in cities is going to require more of the big bad REGULATION that so many seem to hate so much.

But even most cities are more or less decent enough to live in with the exception of some problem areas and neighborhoods. As is the case with rural areas.

All of this to say = your distinction is a false one. Rural areas are plagued with problems of their own, some similar to those experienced by cities and some not.

But sure, just falsely divide the rural and the cities against each other. Sure, just pit poor rubes against other poor rubes because why not? Easier than pointing out the very real problems with how EVERYONE, rural or city, is getting fucked over.
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You make a good argument but here is my distinction. When an EMP hits, dollar collapses, whatever calamity for worst case scenario you can conjure...do you want to be in a city or in the country?
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Thanks - for my own personal safety? Rural most definitely. But I wouldn't move to a rural area based strictly on a fear of that happening. Also, if a city gets hit with an EMP the surrounding rural areas are going to struggle immensely without access to all the supply chains, medical/legal/financial resources, etc. In other words, rural areas are dependent on cities and vice versa, and without one the other will suffer immensely.
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I would repost but I would rather not advertise. Don't want them coming to ruin it.
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True. The Left ruins everything they touch. But they would hate living in rural America. Their degenerate lifestyle is better suited to the city.
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Dude, your hate for "the left" is liberal and libertarians. They are not leftists. Not even close.

Real leftists absolutely embrace rural life. Stop listening to government propaganda. You are letting them win by believing their bullshit about the "evil leftists"

This left/right fighting is ridiculous. They succeed when you give in to it. It is rich vs the rest of us.

Both sides are one in the same. They push this left/right bullshit, to keep you fighting the people you need to be teaming up with to fight the real problem. The rich elite control so much more of things than most people realize, and they have succeeded in getting the working class to defend them and turn their hatred towards each other.
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"Liberal farmers" that's some funny shit right there,what happens when your farm animals identify as transgender. And just how rich must one be to be your enemy? As someone who is working class the only people I look down on are those who do not work,usually they are of the left and want everything handed to them welfare,ubi,reparations ect.ect.
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I would repost but I would rather not advertise. Don't want them coming to ruin it.
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True. The Left ruins everything they touch. But they would hate living in rural America. Their degenerate lifestyle is better suited to the city.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


It's obvious isn't it?

Weird how they can't see their own hypocrisy.
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This post is ridiculous and OP should be fucking ashamed.

Rural = good and City = bad. That's the argument you're making, right?

If that's your "political wisdom" from over 4 decades of "observing" (whatever that means), you haven't been outside very much.

But even most cities are more or less decent enough to live in with the exception of some problem areas and neighborhoods. As is the case with rural areas.
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You sidestep the focus of the OP's post, which is that sociopolitical liberalism is wrecking urban areas. Although you're correct to point out that doesn't mean right-leaning rural areas are necessarily utopia.

I'd say that whether big city or small, urban or suburban, San Francisco or Des Moines, liberals and leftism generally shit up everything and anything.

Liberalism only works if everything else about a people or place are in good working order. But most people and places are average to below average.
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I certainly do
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Have you been deep in the sticks suburban jackass? Meth, boredom and poverty. No utopia dude!
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Stop lying...You've never been out of your parents' basement.
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It would be convenient for you if that were true. Unfortunately I've taken the Dixie Hightway through the state in your screen name. Great scenery interspersed with Dollar Generals, antique stores, and the occasional community of rusted out and desperate looking trailer homes.
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You are truly clueless about economics.

If there is no economic wellspring nearby then there will be little economic opportunities. If there is then there will be opportunities.

According to you, all rural areas are the same when the fact is that MOST METRO AREAS are alike.

RURAL AREAS VARY GREATLY.
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I can make more money here, and the medical care is significantly better, but in every other way I can think of life is better back in the small towns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45208428


Parts A and B kinda matter a lot. I'm not ill equipped to compete in the work place and so I want to. I have no desire whatsoever to be a line cook or cut hair out of a barber shop I turned my living room into. And like I said earlier, what people are calling "rural" here is just living in a suburb and commuting a long distance. No one here is going to move to Northern Iowa or Western Nebraska. They all want to be able to get delivery pizza and go to a real grocery store. Clearly the motivating factor for damn near everyone in this thread is they just want to be around white people, which considering the argument the original post makes is pretty ironic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79627370


They do matter a lot, but so does your last point. There is just a lot less crime and stress that way. In my preferred location, I carry a gun everywhere but never feel like I need to, in the lefty shithole I live near, I'm not allowed to, but always feel like I need to. At least I live in a gated community.

Your are also right that most people just want the suburbs, but I really don't. There are many small towns that have good paying high tech manufacturing facilities in them. Those are the places I like. If I can make enough to make life easy, that is all I need. I don't go in or around cities or people unless I have to. I'm usually at home or in the woods. I have family members that have special healthcare needs though and since Obama care went into full effect my healthcare costs tripled, so I had to move so I could catch up.





GLP